Who was the better draw based big daddy cool diesel or the short

>Kevin Nash almost put wwf out of business when he was in WCW
>CM Punk almost put wwe out of business when he was in wwe

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hand pocket man over cuk man phillip 4 life

Nash changed the nature of the business forever. CM Punk is just an easily replaceable manlet.

We didn't get enough Nash in that run. Just had a feud with Punk and Hunter and he was gone.

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>>1905174
>Nash you know that I know
>That you're only HALF the draw that Punk is
>....
>And I have HALF the brain that you do

They both were anti-draws, if you say otherwise it's because you're a mark.

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Nash never drew a dime and he was a shit wrestler. Punk never drew a dime but he at least worked some great matches.

I'll take Cuck Master Phil over Quad Tearer Kev any day of the week.

>Diesel
>literally the lowest-drawing WWF Champ of all-time

>Punk
>literally the first guy to spark outside interest in the WWE in a decade

>>1905613
>literally the first guy to spark outside interest in the WWE in a decade
>philfags STILL think the summer of cuck drew

>>1905638
MITB had a clear spike in the buyrate.

The numbers don't lie.

>>1905174

My CM Punk drew several dimes and that skinny midget Nash never drew shit. Lowest drawing WWE Champion of all-time.

>>1905642
Summerslam 2011 had a clear drop in buyrate.

The numbers don't lie.

The ratings were shit.

The numbers don't lie.

>>1905654
>WWE has a brief moment that captures fan interest
>squanders it within weeks

Oh look, it's every time this has happened since 2001.

>>1905642
>July Pay Per View buys
>2007: 230,000 (John Cena v Bobby Lashley, Great Khali v Batista)
>2008: 273,000 (Triple H v Edge, CM Punk v Batista)
>2009: 267,000 (Randy Orton v John Cena v Triple H, Jeff Hardy v CM Punk)
>2010: 162,000 (Sheamus v John Cena, MitB Ladder match)
>2011: 195,000 (John Cena v CM Punk, MitB Ladder match)
>2012: 188,000 (CM Punk v Daniel Bryan, MitB Ladder match)
>2013: 199,000 (John Cena v Mark Henry, MitB Ladder match)
Nope it only looks good compared to the flop that was Sheamus. 2 years later, Phil gets outdrawn by Mark fucking Henry.

>>1905658
>not knowing about Mark "Ratings" Henry

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>>1905661
Completely annihilated

>>1905658
>Batista leaves
>buyrates go down to below 200,000 for the first time ever

SAVE_US.BIGDAVE

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>>1905174

>>1905661

>SEETHING

Neither of them ever drew a goddamned dime.

>>1905189
>WWE lost money the year they threw everything they had into Kevin Nash
>WWE's profits went up from 2011 to 2012 while Punk was champion before nosediving in 2013
nigga

>>1905613
wolfpac literally disproved this with facts. hbk is lowest draw.

Not a dime between the two

>>1905723
Leeeel this much damage control. 1st 2013 - say thank you to midget bryan. 2nd - 2012 - Lesnar and Jericho returned, 1000th episode of Raw, Ryback, The Shield - it was pretty good year.

>>1905745
Bryan was a main eventer for 3 months in 2013.

>Ryback
>drawing

>>1905740
>nWoWolfcuckTV

The only thing Newcastle NEET proves is that aging is mandatory but growing up is optional.

>>1905762
Well that was the big break for him when wwe saw he could not draw.

>>1905768
>actually thinking WWE pushes guys based off drawing power
>2001+15

>>1905771
What else was the cause of his short term main eventing? Also, smarks always bring up "muh bryan title reign" but when it doesntvwork it is irrelevant because it was short? Make up your minds faggots.

>>1905780
>but when it doesntvwork it is irrelevant because it was short? Make up your minds faggots.

Do you even know what you're attempting to say here?

>>1905784
>doesnt understand the sentence because of a single typo a guy using smartphone made

XD yeah, bryan's main event push is brought up when it works "muh best ratings on raw after wm" but when it does not like here (bryan plummetting ratings in 2013), you try and make it irrelevant

>>1905791
There was a typo?

I didn't understand it because it was a rambling nonsensical diatribe.

>>1905189
>Kevin Nash almost put wwf out of business when he was wwf champ
>Kevin Nash actually put WCW out of business when he was in WCW

CM Punk sucks, but you are straight up delusional. Also, Nash always tried to be the toughest guy on the mic, able to bury anybody. But Punk destroyed him with his own "You're a really really old man and you should stop wrestling" schtick every time they traded promos.

>>1905740
>wolfpac literally disproved this
Hey wolfcuck!

CM Punk drew the majority of buys for UFC 203, they paid him $500,000 (that's 25x more than what the "winner" Mickey Gall got paid btw)
In returrn Punk drew an extra $5 million in buyrates for UFC 203.
So Punk is an actual draw in a legit shoot sport.
Nash can't even draw in a fake sport and nearly killed WWF he was so bad.
No comparison really.

DIESEL: (angrily) "I should get more pay. I'm the lowest paid champ in WWF history!"

GERALD BRISCO: "That's coz you're the lowest DRAWING champ in WWF history...."

based Brisco.

>>1905806
>someone put wcw out of business

18+

>>1905174
Punk.
Not one dime >> Negative dimes.

>>1905762
My Ryback was a draw

>>1905174
>best in the world

what did semen punk mean by this?

>>1906832
ask your wife they fuck every time when ur at work, she knows :^)

>>1906893
Hi phil!

>>1905813
>people pay to see me btfo in fighting sport
>"h-hey, I can d-draw!"

Also someone made a nice post some time ago with all the things punk is going to lose his money on, like that doctor sueing etc. And it doesnt look good for punk in the end.

>>1905813
Also, any links to back up your statements? Just asking.

>>1906647
>Punk.
>Not one dime >> Negative dimes.

But punk did draw negative dimes. His reign caused ratings to go down.

>>1906971
People paying to see you is the definition of drawing money though.
Why so sad hateful lad?

>>1906979
How much money can one person draw from getting btfo? It was a single event and he is not getting another fight.

>>1906978
He main evented a third of the PPVs under his reign. He was booked strong, but literally as a second-run midcard champion.
He moved a lot of merch and popped some ratings in 2011.
Nash did bad. He was on-top, the focus, and he caused bigger drops than Punk did, even if you do want to pin it on his reign.

>>1907005
I wouldnt be so sure. There were live event attendence ratings few days ago here, and while nash-run live rat. were worse than punk-run, we have to remember the business was in worse position when nash was the champion, the ratings for live events were just a fraction smaller than compared to punk, so I would say its totally different way than u say.

>>1906983
Yeah but if he fought again tomorrow or came back to wrestling you know you'd watch it.
If you were employed you'd probably even pay for it.
Why so sad hateful lad?

>>1907020
House shows he probably wasn't even head-lining. They just coincided with his reign.
Also, early 90's a lot more people gave a shit about wrestling, so the general attendance was likely higher.

>>1907026
We are talking about 2011 here. People still gave a fuck about wrestling back then. It wasnt like it is now.

>>1905174
let's see....a founder of the nWo....or a straight edge guy who was once a world champ.
If you think it's even a debate, compare tshirt sales alone.

>>1905216
Thank you Nash

>>1905658
SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET THEIR ASS KICKED

SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET THEIR WIG SPLIT

>>1905658
>>2012: 188,000 (CM Punk v Daniel Bryan, MitB Ladder match)

haha fucking smarks BTFO
fucking non draw indie retards

>>1905658
>>1905661
HAHAHAHAHAA

>>1905658
>>1905661
OMG

You don't just get to samefag to try and act like your cherrypicked statistics mean anything

>>1905658
Bryan vs. Punk didn't main event


>>1907031
18+

WWE has been in decline since 2001.

>>1906978
So like every Cena reign?

They've all had consecutively lower ratings.

Really makes you think...

>>1907862
the main two bouts are listed for every ppv

and while the MitB ladder match did go on last, the Phil vs Cryan WWE Championship match was still a major selling point

>>1905174
Nash > Anything CM Cuck has done in his career

Phil wouldn't have lasted a year in a locker room in the 90's and would have been a jobber at best. Would probably get his ass beat for being such a whiny mark for himself.

>>1905189
>>1905222
>>1905675
>>1906832
>>1907969

Hi Kevin!

>>1907969
>Would probably get his ass beat for being such a whiny mark for himself.

Oh, so like what happened to HBK a bunch of times?

UNSAFE WORKING ENVIRONMENT

>Lowest drawing WWE champion vs guy who got UFC the most PPV buys they've ever had
>This is even a debate

ITT: Samefagging

>>1910617
when did Nash fight in the UFC?

>>1910617
>guy who got UFC the most PPV buys they've ever had

What did he mean by this?

>>1910693
>poster count doesn't go up

really makes you think

>The amount of samefagging ITT

>>1907862
>>1905658

Educate yourself.

>>1907071
>Punk won more world titles than Nash
>didn't even need to book himself to do it