>Universally over wherever he goes >great look >great

He's already pretty popular despite being booked like shit both in LU and AAA, senpai.

>>1857751
He's one of the few people outside of WWE I want in WWE because I don't see him ever leaving the Mexican shitleagues and I think he'd remain mostly unchanged in WWE.

>>1857762
>he'd remain mostly unchanged in WWE

Dude is literally the polar opposite of a PG wrestler. Violent, bleeds, uses things you don't see in WWE ring (light tubes etc), breaks arms, uses a piledriver.

WWE version of him would be shit and you know it.

>>1857765
I meant the core of his character, not the shit he does. He'd still be a crazy implied murderous nutcase.
Also I don't really care about bleeding, light tubes, and pretending to break people's arms. That's ancillary nigh-superficial stuff with no value besides a cheap pop. It's of no meaning.

>>1857771
Then you'd just have a masked Dean Ambrose.

Dude wouldn't work in a PG environment, sadly.

>>1857762
>I think he'd remain mostly unchanged in WWE.

Fun fact: Pentagon Jr. was part of an effort from the AAA to bring the historic feud between the tecnico Octagon and his long line of rudo foes under the same name of Pentagon.

Two young, up-and-coming, promising luchadores were given the names and masks of Octagon and Pentagon, one of them, of course, was Pentagon Jr., but Octagon Jr. was actually Kalisto.

WWE sure did a good job on him, didn't them?

>>1857771
>He'd still be a crazy implied murderous nutcase.
Yeah, WWE would handle that just fine. Like Dean Ambrose!

... wait.

>>1857786
I know.
What you forget to mention is, Kalisto failed all on his own by being a horrible, botching mess.
He's Cara 2.0: high expectations, horrid delivery.

>>1857803
Luchadores just don't fit well into the WWE style unless they're wrestling their own kind.

Sure, Kalisto botched quite a bit. Would it matter if it was some lucha libre match, where he'd have a few more spots in the same match to regain himself and get fans something to cheer for? No.

>>1857809
Rey fit in well, because he understood how to bring forth a little character in his ring-work during his WWE tenure.
In-ring isn't Kalisto's only shortcoming. He's just a blank slate masked luchadore in there. Metalik is much more fun to watch.

>>1857809
I think the problem is a bit more than that: WWE said "You'll be the next Rey Mysterio, now go out there and flip until they love you" without giving him any personality or reason to care, then paired him up with Sin Cara, who suffered the exact same problem.

Sure, Rey got over because he was pure talent AT FIRST, but he only became the icon he is because he was actually given something to work with.

>>1857771
The fookin' STATE of this Stamford Wife.

>and pretending to break people's arms.

This is essential to Pentagod you dummy

>>1857812
Yep, Kalisto just has a mask and that's it.

Fenix for example would be way better in that regard, too. Better on the ropes also.

>>1857816
Yeah, they think just having a mask is enough of a gimmick. Sure, it can work in some cases but generally character development is important.

>>1857761
I was quite shocked to learn how poorly booked Pentagon is in Mexico.

>>1857950
AAA in general has pretty dogshit booking.

>>1857762
>he'd remain mostly unchanged in WWE.

Him cutting promos in English and jobbing to Zayn and other queers

>>1857967
>Zayn vs. Pentagon

holy shit this match would fucking RULE

>>1857762
>He's one of the few people outside of WWE I want in WWE
when will you retards stop begging people to go to wwe for absolutely no reason

>>1857945
>Stamford Wife.

But I'm not, don't seethe.
I just think the core of his character is him being a fearless brutal motherfucker. Breaking arms is just to accentuate that. The hardcore shit he does to embolden the point wouldn't really hurt that much stripped away, because Pentagon's still Pentagon

One of my favorite theme songs in wrestling today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vmGF4mus5g

>>1857986
>for absolutely no reason

Well LU isn't gonna last forever, and he's being booked like fucking T R A S H in AAA.
After LU I'd rather him go and probably get over as fuck and the recognition his talent deserves than rot.

>>1857992
>Lucha Underground theme songs
I don't even realize there's music playing during the entrances most of the time.

>>1857990
Jon Moxley without hardcore shit is Dean Ambrose.

You follow me?

>>1858002
And Pentagon without hardcore shit still has 100x the character of either.

>>1857999
all you will get is a worse product if he goes to WWE, the only good thing WWE have right now is AJ and he was still far better elsewhere, there is literally no positive for you as a fan for him going to the WWE

>>1858007
If he went to SmA+ck it'd work.

>>1858001
I honestly wish they released more themes to the public.

So far we have Pentagon, Fenix, and I think Del Rio. Maybe Mundo. I want Cage's theme right now you mexican border jumpers

>>1858010
It wouldn't. WWE doesn't allow blading, breaking arms, piledrivers.

What would he be without that? JBL would just say HE'S A PSYCHO MARRO while he wouldn't do anything violent in the ring, and people would get bored of him quickly.

CERO PESOS

>>1858025
I'm not really that impressed by blood or pretending to break people's arms.
Losing the piledrivers would suck, admittedly.
I'm more just a fan of his general charisma and ring-work. Bringing that out of AAA where he's used like a fucking geek anyway to somewhere he'd probably get over as fuck is fine with me, as a fan of his.

He's doing very well for himself on the indies supposedly with masks and merch sales accounted for. Personally, when LU tanks I would love to see him stay on the Indies and do the occasional TNA date same with Mil and Matanza. Anyone in that whack line to feud with muh Broken Matt.

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>>1858142
Remember when Mil Muertes was on TNA and it was hot fucking garbage?

>>1857945
Pentagon doesn't use light tubes or break arms in AAA, you LU mark.

>>1857751
>Pentagon Dank
Literally a meme wrestler

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>>1858162
TNA is a rite of passage for some.

>>1858162
Holy SHIT, I forgot all about this.

Can someone link some good matches of his? I feel like I haven't watched enough of his stuff.

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>>1858275
Remember when Okada was Joey Samoey's Kato?

>>1857789
>>1857775
EL ES UN LUNATICO, MIGUEL

>>1858342
HAHAHAHA ME ENCANTA, MIGUEL
JUEGO DE PELOTA

>>1858272
The name change is pretty horrid.

>>1858353
>JUEGO DE PELOTA
As a native Spanish speaker I hate myself for having laughed as much as I did.

>>1858353
>JUEGO DE PELOTA

my sides

>>1858292
Just watch LU

>>1857957
Worse than RAM's booking?

>>1858002
Nigger he ain't got shit apart from a catchphrase.

>>1858022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShojHTcFIfM

>>1860754
Nothing is worse than the finish to a PPV rubber match in a Best of 7 Series being A FUCKING DOUBLE COUNT-OUT

>>1858292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpQ-HDv-Ooc

>>1858292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDR6tOXzt6Q

>>1861110
Man, Aerostar is fucking great. There's so much great talent in LU some just get lost in the shuffle.

>>1860777
It's so simple but so good. Shame it's in such shitty quality here.

>>1857803
>>1857786
Kalisto was still green when they brought him over. He never developed properly. If you look at that whole bunch he was hailed as a potential Rey successor. Now if you look at it hes far behind in ability to Mascara Dorada, Flamita and fucking Fenix who barely speaks English is beyond his reach in every way possible. Know what the difference is too? All three of them are fucking amazing in the air while still being able to do power moves and Fenix with his broken english and shit somehow manages to do promos and get over. Fuck, Pentagon gets over in Spanish while wrestling indies here.

>>1858953
it's his branding. Pentagon Jr belongs to AAA. Even if he left for WWE it wouldn't be Pentagon

>>1862122
I love Aerostar but the guy botches way too much. That aside the man is fucking insane. That no look cannonball he does is scary as shit

>>1862195
I don't know about him being green, man. In his Samuray del Sol days Kalisto was the fucking bomb in the ring, as soon as he showed up in the WWE he started botching non-stop.

>>1862225
I feel like it may be the pressure. He should have got more experience in the indies, before getting signed at age 30 or so. Then MAYBE when he was basically put on to be Rey 2.0 he wouldn't flop so hard. Also pairing him up against certain people who don't really work well against luchadores is not helping him much.

>>1862231
pentagon is 31 years old

>>1858162

But that's not Mil Muertes, anon. That's Judas Mesias. Those are completely different people

>>1862450
I was talking about Kalisto, who's now 29.

>someone takes the time to post scat porn on /asp/
Is this some kind of raid? on a fucking slow board?

https://twitter.com/Jayfuz/status/773384594846605312

>>1860801
There is actually.
Putting the two together so they can be buried while another tag team who has gotten stale keeps holding onto the belts until they beat a tag team reign length.
Also Old Day.

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I wish you could buy his merch online

i dont understand why you idiots think hes going to wwe for one aaa owns the gimmick and two hes a manlet 5'9 and three hes fat and always has to wear a shirt so no one can see his fatness (inb4 owens). hes not even a good wrestler fenix is a better wrestler than him.

>>1867309
It's funny how you manage to be a stereotypical anti-mark and smark at the same time.

>>1867309
Fénix is better than lots of wrestlers so that's not really as much of a diss as you think it is.

>>1857751

he cant speak english

>>1864243
THIS

it's like comparing dentist Kane to masked kane

>>1867388
bbygrrrl

>>1867380
Fenix is probably THE best high flyer just by pure high flying ability in the world right now.

>>1867424
Not just that: he's a great striker and could sell ice cream to eskimos.