https://twitter.com/NiltonJorge/sta tus/767564291662876672

>1 stiff elbow managed to crack open Orton's head

So uh

Brock's too dangerous I guess

>>1636975
>implying it takes anymore than an elbow to cut a head.

>>1636988
>>1636975
>also implying that wasn't brock's intention

Watching it live, I thought he bladed.

But that playback makes it look pretty conclusive that it was one huge, stiff shot that opened Orton up. It also looked like Randy's lights dimmed a little when he took the shot.

Man, I'm fucking sick of Bork Lesnar's schtick. If the locker room were filled with old school guys full-time (Taker, Bradshaw and Farooq, etc.) and not millennial faggots, this Bork behavior would cease double-quick.

I've had enough of his roid-fueled chimpouts.

>>1637065
They seriously need to fucking get rid of Lesnar already.

Yeah Brock is fucking insane. He's hitting him with real fucking elbows.

He needs to be suspended.

>>1637065
could the entire roster fuck him up real bad if they all decided to gang up on him?

>>1637065
This. The first elbow looked shaky then you could see he was really hitting his head. Then Randy dropped his arms and Brock gives him 2-3 real unguarded elbows to his skull

>>1637065
after the elbow, he just covered up to avoid anything else. Then you could see Brock using some softer hits while waiting for Shane and the refs to come out. Going from one stiff blow to a bunch of safe fake ones.

Makes you wonder if the elbow/getting him to bleed from a stiff shot was planned or not. but I doubt Randy agreed to get opened up like that

>>1636958

Welcome back to WWE Randy.

Wew

Based
R
O
C
K

>>1637065
it was planned lad, they wanted this match to be like this. props to Orton for taking the elbows

There's working stiff safely, and there's just working stiff for the sake beating the ever living fuck out of someone

Nakamura and Joe work stiff, but they're a safe kind of stiff without potentially making someone's brains ooze on the mat

>>1637065
HUNICO, YOUR LOCKER ROOM NEEDS YOU

>Complaining about blood

So this is the power of wwe fans today? Only flips and kicks allowed huh? Stiff workers and blood too triggering for you?

>>1636958
at least brock didnt break his neck like he did to bob holly

>>1637132
If it was planned it's a bad bad idea. All the internet and media will talk about is how WWE has a steroid user who brutally cracks heads open

>>1637135

>safe kind of stiff

Yeah I'm sure Samoa Joe agreed to having his jaw broken backstage

>>1637065
>Bradshaw
What'd he do? Brock probably has his own shower and changing rooms.

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>that pool of blood that started forming
WEW laddies

>>1637144
Blood is fine, people like blood and want it back, but that's not "WWE" blood, that's unintentional blood.

Did you hear the crowd when Randy finally picked his head up off the mat? It was fucking flowing like a river out of his skull, that's not a blade job.

>>1637065
randy shouldn't have talked shit, he could've easily avoided this.

>>1636958

>Getting worked this HARD

It's scripted you dummies!

>>1637144
Blood I can take, a wrestler who can't control himself and really throws real elbows I can't

>>1637156
>Thinking Nakamura actually broke his jaw

Literally worked by the Kinshasa

Did the ref do the X thing? I wasnt really paying attention

>>1637065

There's no one backstage who can say or do anything to Brock.

>>1637168
there is no avoiding getting stiffed by Brocky, shit talk or not.

this is reaching reddit levels of stupid markdom

How is it that people like CM Punk can have matches with Brock but someone like Randy get gashed in the skull

>>1637176
nah he didn't

>>1637149
Why is that bad? I wanna believe there's a fucking killer in the WWE. Makes it more real and less pathetically fake like lots of things in the WWE.

Ref didn't put up the X's

It wasn't a shoot, it was just a very violent work.

Though I'm sure Randy's skull being cut open wasn't exactly pleasant for him.

>>1637184
Vince, Steph, and Hunter certainly can

>>1637192
So that it. It wasnt a shoot

>>1637144
It shouldn't be that stiff. That was straight unguarded elbow shots to the head.

>>1636958

>WWE fans are this tame to blood and open wounds

Damn going PG really worked huh?

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>>1637184

>>1637065
the old school guys are nothing compared to him, even ufc guy piss in their pants at the sight of brock

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>>1637184

>>1637217
>missing the point
no one cares that there is blood, but how it happened.

>>1637205

>Steph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIRqmJUesm4

Lol

>>1637184

they could get a girl or a black person to provoke him into attacking them

>>1636975
He hit him twice in the head with the elbow.

>>1637065
>Bradshaw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4elE6eiNDlg

>>1637135
>>Fucking Samoa faggot almost kill Tyson Kid
>>Safe

>>1637227
my body is ready

>>1637156
There is a site that says it's not broken, and I'm leaning toward it not being broken. ya got worked, son.

>>1637228
This. I don't mind blood, I encourage it. But if you are a roided monkey beating up defenseless people, then that is a problem.

>>1637264
Uh, we've been over this, Tyson's neck was already fucked, it wasn't Joe's fault

I fucking loved that ending. I am glad they didn't go with the meme spot that everyone was calling for or fucking Goldberg. I think Brock meant to cut him the hard way but not turn his forehead into a blood fountain.

>>1637296

Is Tyson ever going to come back? I kinda liked him

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Everyone's crying
>boo hoo
>unsafe blows
>my pussy hurts
When did everyone become such pussies

>>1637314
Sadly no, Tyson was almost completely paralyzed if he didn't ever have his neck surgery

>>1637108
2 or 3 of them could

he's one big guy not an animal

>>1637320
2015

I don't think people understand what kind of guy Brock is. Maybe they need to watch more interviews or something. He legit doesn't like people, and shows some fucked up tendencies and sides to his personality.

But it works on a star power/ drawing /charisma level, I will admit.

>>1637227
GO GET EM JOSE

>>1637320
shitty times

>>1637320
When mainstream fans stopped watching and thin skinned redditor neckbeard smarks started to

>>1637202

They only put up the X when he's legit unconscious.

>>1637320

It's the era of the obese smark who thinks wrestling should only be about flips and work rate. That's why Finn Balor is the champion.

>>1637320
I miss him so much, but today's WWE would make him into a neutered mess.

Just my feeling here, but I think Brock was supposed to phantom the elbows but the MMA got to his head (and to Randy's) and he accidentally cut him.

I say it was an accident because they tried burning time for Shane to run out and Shane took a stiff F-5 and knocked the air out of him

>>1637327

Shit, now I'm kinda sad.

>>1637362

That's why everyone keeps bitching about that F5 to RKO spot. They're saving that for Wrestlemania

>Brock is unsafe

Did people forget that he carried a concussed Undertaker in their 'Mania match? That's as safe as you can get.

Thank God for Lesnar. Him suspending kayfabe to grace us with a legit looking beatdown is a breath of fresh air among all the flippy shit and half-assed power moves.

>>1637355
Wrong. X for any legit injury that the ref knows about.

>>1637320
>When did people become idiots who don't realize how the company has changed and works now.

Nobody said that they don't like violence or they don't miss the carnage of the other eras. What we realize is that it's not like that anymore, yet Brock did what he did. It warrants a discussion, so don't get worked up when people question it.

>>1637370
He is pro in both. He knew exactly what he was doing. The juice is getting to his head. Only a matter of time till he becomes the modern Benoit.

>>1637355
No. They put the X up when a wrestler is seriously injured and needs immediate medical attention, period, regardless of if he's conscious. If it was real and Randy was unexpectedly bleeding like he was, they would have X'd it.

It was a partial work.

>>1637387
And who concussed him, genius?

>>1637191
Because it's a different storyline. This is leading to something plus that was pre streak, Cena squashing Lesnar

>>1637163
And it was glorious, definitely getting my money's worth
All of you sjw pussified faggots need to step the fuck back

>>1637408
This.

>>1637288
Stop being pussy butthurt manlet. Fuck WWE fans these days. Bunch of pussies

>>1637345
Fucking this

>>1636958
they were probably looking to replicate the cena-lesnar match from extreme rules a few years ago. brock would hit him hard enough to bleed but not cause too much damage

it's stupid as fuck but it vince is crazy enough to ok something like that after seeing it happen once

why were you guys even watching the Brock match? all his matches are samey boring bullshit

I hope CM Punk wins his UFC fight, is talked back into the WWE, and is allowed to squash Lesnar

>>1637402
Quit whining pussy

>>1637320
Maybe because I don't want wrestler's careers ended early for my entertainment you twat.

The blood isn't an issue; I didn't ever mind blading, but having an unsafe worker is a fucking liability.

>>1637422
Did you think he meant to give an old man a concussion? There was always an increased risk, and Lesnar worked extra safe.

Besides, Taker was not exactly in prime form and looked tired before the bell even rang. It was almost inevitable in hindsight.

>>1637065
You understand that Randy has juiced too? It was a standard in OVW era.

Your message just reeks of childish, inner anger.

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>>1637462
Holy fucking shit, I hope you're memeing

>>1637200
Negative press isn't always a good thing. If the heat gets too heavy it can bring more regulation.

>>1637449
t. has never been involved in combat sports

keep being edgy kiddo

>>1637481
Did it when Brock beat the piss and blood outta the face (Cena) at Extreme Rules 2012? Get worked son

>>1637499
Clog your bleeding vagina up with a tampon bitch

>>1637501
Just sayin nigger. I'll shit all over your cock and swallow your're faggot cum if your're not careful.

>>1637481
What else can they ban
>blood gone
>chair shots to the head gone
>light profanity gone
>TV-14 gone
>Piledrivers gone

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>>1637463
You really are a stupid idiot. I like the violence of the past, and didn't whine. What I said is that the company has changed, and they don't do stuff like what Brock did anymore, and this warrants a discussion as to why it happened. neanderthals like you can't understand these simple points. Now carry on in your stupid idiotdome.

>>1637408

I mean, a lot of people are speculating that he was pissed from that sandbagging (which I didn't notice) but I don't think Brock raged out.

If he is juice raging then rip sable

>>1637465
Go to bed Vince

>>1637511
Don't fucking tempt me>>1637513

>>1637481
>heat is now bad

Heat was the reason why the WWE was relevant back then.

If they could do more beatdowns like this and/or create characters like Muhammad Hassan, maybe the WWE wouldn't be in such a creative shithole and wrestling moves wouldn't look so choreographed

>>1637512
>ban
They could add a few things to this barbarity actually:
>gloves
>headgear
>fingertip covers
>socks
To name a few.

>>1637513
Go crawl back up in your safe space faggot

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Remember when blood was normal?

the little bitch generation, I swear

>>1637513
'New Era' bitch

>all these people ITT unable to recognize a classic blade job
>Orton's wrist moves across his forehead
>seconds later his forehead is gushing
>OMG Lesner is sooooo dangerous guise

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>>1637534
>>1637546

Go back to your stupid hole you stupid idiots, before you get IT.

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>>1637513
>we need to have discussion

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>>1637539
>>1637546
I wonder what happened...

>>1637547


>thinks blade job cuts look like that

Casual

>>1637547
rewatch the footage please and also check out the scar. if it was a blade then it must have been a fucking zigzag

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>>1637547
stop with the shitty baiting, moron.

>>1637557
Yeah a discussion about how you need to lose weight and stop posting pics of yourself on 4chan. Now hit the showers, stupid idiot.

Hey faggots, if you honestly think Randy getting his head busted open is a work then I invite you to rewatch the match and watch what Paul Heyman does.

He straight up doesn't know how to react to what's happening. He stops watching the mat and looks up to the Tron to see what's happening to Randy, something Heyman NEVER does. Then when the blood starts flowing he gets shaky and climbs to Brocks corner to talk with him. He doesn't do his regular shouty 'KILL HIM' shit, he straight up has a look of absolute fear on his face. Another thing, when was the last time Heyman quietly spoke to Lesnar?

This entire event was the botch of the century. Randy was supposed to get busted, but the sheer scale of what happened surpassed what was expected. It was a stupid publicity stunt aimed to make UFC fans into viewers and we're now left with a Smackdown roster that looks overall weak as fuck when compared to Brock and Raw, and we're also faced with the possibility of Orton's retirement.

Fuck Brock Lesnar and fuck you bloodthirsty faggots who wanted this shit back.

>>1637533
No chance they would no matter how bad the press got

Who other than 6 years olds would watch WWE with all that faggot shit in it. I'm embarrassed
to watch it as it is now

It wasn't a blade, it was a worked shoot elbow. Orton is a crazy mofo

>>1637582
>and we're also faced with the possibility of Orton's retirement.
>implying this is bad

He hasn't gave a shit since Gaytch buried him at 25

>>1637108

>the entire roster

Nigga he's one guy, if you have two large guys coming at you from both sides, it doesn't matter how good of a fighter you are

Titus and someone like Braun together could probably fuck him up

>>1637582
Get worked kiddo. Bet you think Cena getting busted open at Extreme Rules was a shoot as well. Stupid moran

>>1637582
Based Nakameme will put Brock down in next mania.

>>1637589
>Implying Orton's numerous Wellness violations didn't bury Orton.

>>1637582
Nobody fucking said they wanted wrestlers to legit cut open each other.
We wanted (want) blading to be allowed again

Also, stop being a pussy faggot. Orton shouldn't have tried to fuck Brock by sandbagging those germans

>>1637582
Ever heard of acting?

Anyway, I think it was a half-work. Randy bladed, and Brock's elbow stretched the wound. You don't papercut head with an elbow.

Plus, Randy is infamous for being a backstage asshole, I don't feel sorry for him, personally.

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>>1637413

I don't think normal rules and standards apply when bork is in the ring.

It was very fucking clear nobody knew what was going on and Randy was out for a few seconds.That match wasn't supposed to be 5min long and Shane coming out without his music was clearly because they needed to save face. He told Bork to F5 him

>>1637320
when we found out we don't want our heroes literally dying or giving themselves braindamageto make us smirk mildly?

>>1637598
I'd love to see Brock destroy that overrated gook

>>1637355

They put up the X for Joe last night and he wasn't knocked out

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No X

No shoot injury

Everyone including reddit, tumblr and /asp/ got worked yet again by a SummerSlam main event

>>1637582
Also,

>we're also faced with the possibility of Orton's retirement

How old are you?

injury update:
http://www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam/2016/article/randy-orton-injury-update?sf33998994=1

>10 staples

>>1637619
>so worked

Go to bed kid

>>1637638
Pretty sure Randy has had worse considering his shoulder history

Everyone is fine

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>>1637629
>Orton "Shoot"
Hey guys, lets fuck up Orton take him out for a month even though he just got back.

>>1637465
Listen to this fucking loser

>>1637646
He'll be back on Smackdown this week or next. Jesus, you kids are so worked it's hilarious

>>1637320
this t b h

>>1637509
>i see you bested me
>lemme use ad hominem that 12 y/o use

18+ kiddo

>>1637655
If he isn't, I expect you to suck my cock Anon.

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>>1637666
Stop tempting me with a good time

>>1637638

>10 staples

>MUH WORKED SHOOT

>>1637582
>the work is not a work because it looks too real

Brock's character post UFC was made to scare people like you. Both Randy and Brock knew full well what would happen if you elbow somebody's head, and they went with it anyway. For a second they brought back stiff wrestling; Brock just caught him with a real good elbow.

>>1637582
Lol have fucking sex

>>1637629
>>1637655
what is this work you niggers are referring to? Who got worked? Is this just a word you like to throw around?

Randy got opened up by an elbow. that's objective fact. are people who are stating this, getting excited about this, and talking about it everywhere a symptom of getting worked?

>>1637692
Randy getting opened was intentional is what we're saying ya sperg.

People are so on the fence about brock
>He's so dangerous wahh he's so angry and on a roid rage how could he hurt randal so

He was fucking instructed to hurt Randy Orton.

>>1637513
Back to geddit fag

>>1637641

heres your (you)

LMFAO

http://deaneezayniac.tumblr.com/post/149305907830/oncetwiceandoveragain-totaldivasepisodes

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"Don't worry guys, it's my blood!"

>>1637646
Is this Carter?

The real question:
Did Brock do it on purpose, or did he try to save his Batch?

>>1637692
The fact that people are believing that it was an off script situation is what is called being 'worked'. It was a legit elbow but Orton would have agreed to take it so it's a shoot work.

Goldberg got called off, apologized to fans on twitter after the show.

who's working who

>>1637731
No that's Chad Warden, a god tier console troll

>>1637638

>Uncomfortable to watch? Lame comment. This is the way WWE needs to go. As a fan for over 20+ years this is the best. It's like when Brock beat John Cena's face in. The comment about cheater........ please say it to Brock's face and he would break your fu**ING skull in.

>this is what fatass smarks think

I think they wanted to bust randy open the hard way and probably agreed on it but Brock got a little out of hand. He gave randy a couple REAL elbows to the head, guess he raged.

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>>1637722
>I can promise you that Randy could’ve easily done the same to Brock.
>mfw

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>>1636958
Randy needs an excuse to disappear for months, too, guys. Brock gets to because he's an asshole.

>>1637519
I really can't see it other than roid rage or a very very very elaborate work. The ref never did the X, Brock just went after him multiple times after he realized there was a shit ton of blood and this happened in the previous match with Reigns and Rusev so it makes you think it was a work, Shane came out and took a bump, etc. If it is a work, fucking props to Orton for taking that shit like a champ.

>>1636958
This is clearly a work. They did the exact same thing with Cena in 2012. Orton agreed to get busted the hard way just like John did.

>>1637777
didn't Brock really not like Cena at that time? I don't remember the situation around that match. Is it the same match where Cena looked uncomfortable before hand, and Brock straight up squashed and dominated him the whole time?

they need to cut this roid monkey already

>>1637762
>Randy needs an excuse to disappear for months
Brah, he just got back!

>Brock Arrested
>Orton dead
>Cena retires

Passing of an Era

>>1637797
Yeah... what makes you think he doesn't want on the part-timer train?

>>1637839
Sure, but I want to believe he's not THAT big of a shitter.

>>1637777
Checked

>>1637814
>Grow up

It's not about numbers in your age. You simply remind me of a young child who gets worried by slightest accidents. In sports entertainment, you see, it is very common to get some staples on your head once in a while. This time, too, Randy will have his head stapled. He is not going to die or face a career threatening injury. Children always panic as they have no experience to guide them any better.

That is why I made a reference to your possible age, not because I'd brag with age per se or with the fact I've had sex, which is quite irrelevant.

>>1637865
This was meant for:
>>1637814

Anyone got a gif or webm of Brock opening up Orton with the elbows?

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My fucking face when Bork caused marks to work themselves into a shoot

>>1637884

>>1636958
in the twitter post

>>1637893
Thanks! I'm retarded

>>1636958

The only reason I'm mad about this spot is that there wasn't enough blood in it.

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>>1637887
...what?

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>>1636958
And people say roid rage isnt a thing xD

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>>1637922
The simplest way I can explain it is to remind you that wrestling is fake and scripted and a bunch of marks in this thread have apparently forgotten

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>>1637065

>yfw Brock starts spewing some shit about being unstoppable then this theme interrupts him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9udAirjw3U

>>1637937
I don't think anyone's denying something like this wasn't supposed to happen, but it is unlikely WWE told Brock to bloody up Orton like that.

>>1637176
The wwe knows that fans look for the X, they don't actually use that as a signal anymore, its just a dummy that can be used to fake out "smart" fans.

>>1636958
>>1636958

Based Brock working the marks and smarks into a shoot

>>1637939
Is he even worth it? He wasn't that great to begin with.

>>1637939
>cuckberg
>any threat to BORK

>>1637953
You do realise that you can't predict how much blood will come outta a hard cut right? Lesnar did the exact elbow to Cena and he bled a little less than that, it depends what nerves are hit

>>1637962

He's not a great wrestler but he just got built up to be this overpowered beast so it would be cool to see him come back if only to spear and jackhammer Brok.

>>1637962
with this match nothing would be good. brock simply isnt a worker and takes short cuts every step. suplex...table..f5 elbow and bleed.

>john cena
>orton

TWO HUGE SUPERSTARS TO WWE. honestly he is trash.

>>1637953
I bet you think Bork saying "shit" on Raw wasn't scripted too

>>1637986
xD you obviously have no idea how sponsors work for a kids show

I came here for webms of the hit, what the fuck are you fags doing

>>1637978
That's kind of what I'm saying. I don't think looking at this as unintentional makes you a mark. WWE can't know how to get those results so most of the time they don't do it. It's hard to see this as anything but Brock being pissed at Orton.

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>>1637998
and that is why you are worked af tbqh

>>1637939
First match was shit why do want it done again?

>>1637997
Why so you can post it on reddit

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>>1637986
>Anon, please...

Saying shit and making one of their Superstars bleed is night and day. Don't conflate the two as the same.

>>1638011
>mfw

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>>1637629
X means something is legit wrong AND THEY CAN'T CONTINUE
they were trying to close randy's wound, they realized after awhile it was too bad and rang the bell

when samoa joe got opened up at take over dallas, did they put up an x and stop the match, no they looked at the wound, dressed it and then they continued, it opened later again and they dressed it again, if they couldn't close the wound they would have stopped the match then

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>>1638013
It was shit because both guys were leaving the company and no longer gave a fuck. Goldberg wants one more match so he can end his career on a better note and Lesnar isn't about to go try to be an NFL player again. A rematch could turn out better despite both their advanced ages.

>mfw it probably winds up worse

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>>1637132
>Hey Randall my boy! How about this roided up gorilla intentionally severely cracks your skull open, is that cool? Alright thanks man!

>>1637955
They still use them, they've thrown a couple up in the last few months.

People need to stop being pussies. A couple of stitches is nothing compared to the joint injuries that happen when someone botches a spot like Charlotte did tonight. Orton's not going to bleed to death, he'll probably be back in two weeks.

>>1638073
Yeah, nothing bad's ever happened over a head injury in this business.

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>>1638073
>>1638088
Or the fact bork is juiced to the gills and went over board with his RAGE

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>>1638088

That's a shoot injury for sure, the question is if it was totally unscripted or a blade job gone wrong.

Leaning to the latter myself

>>1638100
Even Bork isn't stupid or crazy enough to go into business for himself like that. At the end of the day all he cares about is making as much money as possible.

>>1638073
Maybe you should tell Krispen Wah's family that?

>>1638117
Wasn't a blade job. Orton opened up hardway. The only thing that was possibly unintentional was the severity of it.

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>>1637320
>waaahhh, too violent, fire Brock he's a dangerous worker, this is too real
t. 2016 PG WWE fan

>>1638131
THIS

>>1638117
Nigga did you look at OP's pic?

How the fuck can you think that jagged cut like that can be made from a straight blade?

>Brock is the biggest draw in WWE, no argument
>Brock matches are the ones always talked about after a show
>Brock's "gimmick" in the WWE is that he's an unhinged animal that does whatever he wants

This was a perfect ending, work or not. The WWE built this up like it'd be a match for the ages and Brock just comes over and squashes Randy and leaves him lying in a pool of blood. Adds legitimacy to his "gimmick" and you can guarantee that WWE will use this and ram it down people's throats going forward. I don't know why all you pussies are so upset about this.

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>>1638136
It's almost like this was a different era with a different set of company values

>>1638136
>A count to four
Why

>>1638151
It's not about being upset about what happened. It's more "are we being worked or was it a shoot?

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>>1638116
>>1638124
>everyone who took a chairshot to the head in the Attitude Era is going to become a murderer

>>1638170
Why would that ever be a bad thing

I am fucking sick of PG era fans, a bunch of fucking pussies Brock is absolutley based and is a wrecking machine (the only guy right now that actually feels like a superstar except Cena). So what he cut up Orton and he bled it added to the match.

Go jerk off to you 5* classic flippy shit matches elsewhere because they are killing the ratings

>>1638088
>>1638100
That's not brain trauma, that's skin being torn by the point of an elbow. Brock even held his head still to minimize the impact. No one is going to become a murderer from a scalp cut.

>>1638180
Because some people's guesses are right, and some are wrong. On the internet it's very important that your right.
>>1638177
Don't be intentionally dumb. Shots to the head aren't good for you.

>>1637065
>I've had enough of his roid-fueled chimpouts.

have you seen his forehead? he literally is a human ape.

>>1638196
Nobody is saying he's gonna murder suicide, but busting a dudes head open on purpose is a dick move.

I marked out. Everyone's still feeling worked.

Because of that: best end to a ppv all year

>>1638145
Blade as a figure of speach. An intentional cut, in other words.

>>1638188
This. Brock is entering a different realm of wrestling alll on his own now. You may have to slap on a tv14 rating before his hour and my god that's money. This is the kind of pub that could save wrestling. Like Austin being too profane, or Sable being too risque, in that vein.

But yeah let them circlejerk they're flippy garbage and chant this is awesome at two ugly chicks struggling to have a 3star match lol

>>1638177
Whether or not that matters is irrelevant. The Benoit incident really started WWE on the "protect our superstars" track especially with all the drowning media heat

>people still saying it was a work
it's exactly the same as when Batista and Cena fucked up the finish and Vince came out, minus no quad injury for Shane

>>1638205
Cuts like that aren't 100% odds. Believe me, dudes get clipped with elbows all of the time in MMA and blood only happens occasionally. Those were some of the softest elbows I've ever seen, and I was actually surprised that they drew blood at all.

>>1638218
I guess I just look at that on top of everyone saying Orton was Sandbagging.

>>1638198
Landing hard on a wrestling ring in any fashion isn't good for you. The difference is, before health & safety shit took over, wrestlers accepted what they were doing was dangerous and they were tough guys who could take it. Now they are beta millenial pussies doing the safest 'sports entertainment' possible

>>1638188
>>1638215
Brock is a giant, boring roid monkey. He needs to fuck off and stop ruining ppvs.

>>1638209
This

>>1637320
>>1638136
I hope you two realize how young the average 4chan user is. we all might be a little too old for this prepubescent site where the majority of anons on /asp/ were probably too young to have even seen wcw before the nwo was a thing. hell there are plenty on here too young to have even seen the wwe version of the nwo.

>>1638198
Is that why you wear a helmet? No its just because you're retarded. Shit happens man, sometimes you take a headshots playing basketball, or something. Every single who's every been hit in the head is a murderer?

Jesus christ

>>1638217
Except it wasn't that at all. The only thing they have in common is they both involve McMahons and roiders

>>1638227
I have no idea why people kept saying that. Lesnar deadlift suplexes people all the time, it just makes him look like more of a monster. Hell he was doing it to fatass Big Show.

>>1638216
The media heat is irrelevant unless WWE cave in to it, which they have. You don't see the media all over UFC for being 'too dangerous' and their fighters are virtually guaranteed to get concussed or their bones broken

So, on a scale of 1 to Psycho Sid leg rip, how badly is Orton now fugged up currently?

And also, if Bork keeps becoming more fueled by the urge of "MURDER ERRYTHING", then who's going to be the poor sod who's going to actually shoot die in the ring when Bork finally goes full Planet of the Apes mode?

>>1638271
just 10 staples. no concussion reported.

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>>1638131
No. That's stupid.
There is no such thing as intentionally opening someone up with elbows to the head. This has never ever happened in the history of professional wrestling.

There are plenty of times in the past where they knew there was a very good chance, like chair shots to the head, but at no time have wrestlers huddled up in the back and said, "ok, and then i'll elbow you in the head until you start bleeding."

Anyone got a webm of this?

>>1638230
Not an argument

>>1638289
He did the same to cena you fucking retard

>>1638289
>This has never ever happened in the history of professional wrestling
Lesnar did it to Cena literally two years ago

>>1638271
>who's going to be the poor sod who's going to actually shoot die in the ring when Bork finally goes full Planet of the Apes mode?
i'm JUST one man!

Watching it now, I don't see any passing of a blade from Orton to the ref or anything like that, also if you freeze frame after the 2nd elbow shot Orton's already busted open

So the question is whether or not the plan was to bust open Randy on purpose or if it was legit an accident

>>1638305
It was clearly an accident and they were waiting to see how bad it was.

>>1638300
Not intentionally to make him bleed.

Brock works stiff, but you're a fucking idiot if you think John Cena and Brock met before hand and decided Brock would hit him however many times until he opened john up. That never happens. If they want blood there's some many better ways to do it than, "i'll just hit you until you start bleeding."

>>1638326
Gb2reddit

>>1638215
Didn't he bust up Cena X2 when they were fueding? I didn't see people bitching then, this shit enhances the fued/match.

Brock is money and is unpredictable that's what makes him so fucking great.

>>1638305
see
>>1638326

Never ever do wrestlers plan to make each other bleed by hitting them. If it happens, it happens, but they never plan it or rely on it. What if it took 4-5 stiff elbows to make Randy bleed? What if it took 6-7. Randy would never agree to that. Especially when he could just blade or take a pellet if they really wanted blood.

>>1638305
I'm thinking the plan was to bust Orton open, but they fucked up and Brock went too far.
I'm also guessing the match was supposed to end in a DQ anyway since Brock did the spot with Shane.

However, something about it all does seem a little off, and that's what makes it a cool end.

>>1638333
How is going to reddit going to make you less of a mark?

>>1638298
Not an argument, just a fact.

Where does Randy go from here? Brock made him look weak AF

A lot of people are saying that Shane coming out to get F5'd was adlibbed to to save the situation by making it look like a work.

What do you guys thing?

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>>1638355
I'm guessing Shane came out ala Eric Bischoff in Turning Point

He even stiffed the F5 on Shane and you see him try to get up immediately as if he was confused

>>1638395
I was considering that too. not sure. maybe Goldberg said fuck this last minute.

>>1638398
"OWWWW OWWWWW"

looks like a playfight going wrong when i was a kid

>>1638398
damn

>>1638378
Rematch where Orton buries Brock

>>1638398
How the fuck are fat anti-smarks arguing that it's a work when you clearly see Brock's elbow come down full force on Randall's crown at 0:08

>>1638398
>that second elbow
VipeRip

>>1638378
Orton gets even angrier and turns super saiyan, and comes out to his old theme

>>1638398
>MR BROCK PLS I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK SHIT AND HURT THE LESNAR BRAND PLS DONT SAVE MY SKULL IN

Was ringside and can confirm Randy said this

>>1638395

I think the plan was for Orton to bleed hardway, but I think Brock him too hard and the cut was bigger than they had planned for, forcing them to bring Shane in early and end the match.

A lot of people have said that Orton was sandbagging the suplexes, and on rewatch it does look like he's not really going up for them. Maybe Brock got pissed at him and put a little extra force into the elbows, making the cut worse. Then again, maybe Orton was just concerned about going high for the suplexes and landing on his glass shoulders.

Either way 100% work, they just miss-stepped along the way.

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i'm done watching wwe. worst ppv ever. going back to /fa/

>>1638426
I like how randy started strong in the beginning. made me think maybe they could have an intense, somewhat even match, then nope suplex city and elbow city happened.

>>1638395
>>1638405
>>1638406
>Shane's F5 was a shoot
Are there people that actually believe that wasn't just to save the match?

>>1638398
I dunno.

How does this help the brand?

This pretty much buries smackdown as looking weak, and unless it's worked very well by giving Brock a "suspension" or some shit, maybe having him being a monster that is around to fuck up the brand (not far from the truth) then it doesn't help anyone. Orton can't just come back from this.

>>1638420
cause when some people realize they're wrong they just dig in because they think it makes them save face instead of looking even dumber than they did before

>>1638433
ya its fucking kids show the newday killed it for me. that shits so fucking stupid

I'll tell you my problem with the match and it has nothing to do with Orton getting busted open. The problem was that match up to that point was shit. It was one-sided boring shit. Typical Brock spamming suplex city and Orton getting tossed around like a ragdoll. It made Orton look weak and it certainly didn't do anything for the quality of the match.

Now, some of you may be thinking that, hey getting beaten by an animal like Lesnar doesn't make you look weak. Normally I'd agree. But with the buildup Randy got before this match, they obviously wanted to make him look like an actual opponent for Brock. Except for those two rkos, it was a borderline squash match. I have no problem with Brock winning, or him busting open Orton's head like a ripe melon, but you have to make the match an actual fucking match. If it had been a 30 minute back and forth battle and then Brock bled Orton, I would've marked like a 12 year old. Instead, I was left with a bad taste in my mouth because the actual fight sucked. This was supposed to be the main event, but it felt like a midcard squash match.

>>1638439
I think Brock felt that he needed to do something more intimidating(hence why kept going down on randy after he was busted) which is why he lifted Shane up immediately like he was nothing and Shane was a bit confused for that second which is why he landed kinda stiff

>>1638420
Because Orton agreed to it you thick fuck. He did the same thing to Cena at Extreme Rules. If you believe this was a shoot, you're autistic as fuck

>>1638326
It's called shot wrestling and it does happen. You're just a retard

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>>1638451
I don't remember Reign's match being that brutal. Even when Brock was running train on him, Reign's looked like he stood a chance.

>>1638459
*shoot

>>1638454
Can you do that in WWE and not get chewed out? Shane is a McMahon. I feel like you need to run that by someone.

>>1638463
That's because Reigns was being pushed as the top face Vince wouldn't have let Lesnar manhandle him

>>1638459
>Because Orton agreed

>"YES BROCK YOU ROIDED UP GORILLA WITH A SUCCESFUL CAREER IN MMA FUCK MY SHIT UP CRACK OPEN MY SKULL LIKE A RIPE CANTALOUPE ESPECIALLY AFTER COMING BACK FROM AN INJURY"

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>>1638481

A superficial cut to the scalp is not a cracked skull you fucking faggot.

Pro tip: The skin on the forehead is extremely thin. Why do you think bladejobs bleed so fucking much?

People get busted up in the forehead in eyebrows all the time in MMA/Boxing.

>>1638470
I don't think Brock was really thinking tonight.

Fun Fact: Brock has admitted to suffering many concussions while wrestling and even responded about how Dbry was forced to retire yet he still has to show up with current concussion symptoms and all. The steroids also kinda hurts you.

>>1638497
inb4 he beniots and kills errybody

>>1638474
So they don't give a damn about Randy even thought hyping him up was the first thing they did? I get he's no Reigns, but that was overkill.

>>1638451
I agree. While I do like how the match deviated from expectations by ending in that bizarre mess and not just giving the fans what the wanted (F5 into RKO, Goldberg, etc.), there definitely should have been more there.

If it's a match of this calibur, commit to having it either a squash or a good fight. Don't just have is *kinda* look like a fight. To be honest, because of how it didn't have much going on before, the mark in me is making me think that maybe the match really was supposed to go on longer.

>>1638502
>yfw Bork unleashes his final form and everyone on the show he's stuck on ends up running for dear life to not die horribly to Bork
>yfw Vince has the entrances and escape routes blocked off/closed because he wants dat bloodshed and murder for muh ratings
>yfw you witness mass murder on WWE

>>1638048

>X means something is legit wrong AND THEY CAN'T CONTINUE

Joe did get the X though after the match. It just means the person is legit hurt and needs actual medical attention

>>1638510
It probably was, but I think they legit freaked over that head wound and just ended up calling it

>>1638495
>a clear elbow shot from a 285lb man with a background in MMA to the skull of a man buzzed head cannot be cracked.

>Pro tip: The skin on the forehead is extremely thin. Why do you think bladejobs bleed so fucking much?

So let me guess you've been watching wrestling only recently and are now using your newfound knowledge of the business to insult others without being aware how autistic you really come off?

>>1638510
that table should have broken for that table RKO. Goldberg would have been nice.

>>1638516
Bork destroys WWE Red Hulk vs Marvel style.

>>1637065
>>1637098
>>1637095

>Implying Lesnar wasn't acting on behalf of the locker room to dish out some vigilante justice to Orton for the last ten years of him being a total cancer

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>>1638520

This is what a cracked skull from a full-contact strike looks like, not Orton's cut.

Shit, Orton's forehead isn't even the worst thing I've seen in an MMA fight. You act like Brock took a hammer to his head. He caught him with the tip of his elbow and gave him a pretty typical cut, end of story.

>>1638271

>who's going to be the poor sod who's going to actually shoot die in the ring when Bork finally goes full Planet of the Apes mode?

Phase2OfHeathsStoryline.webm

The TKO finish was clearly them selling Brock as a legit fighter and playing off UFC 200. Brock probably did hit Randy too hard, however.

It really doesn't matter. The match sucked.

>>1638528
>on behalf of the locker room
Bork don't give shit about the locker room. Didn't do it for them.

>>1638536

How the fuck do you even heal that?

Randy told Brock to bust him open.
Brock proceeded to open a portal to a new dimension on his head.
Match was over because Brock hit him too hard.

>>1638536
>haven't seen the hospital pictures yet
>only seen the dent and pooling blood on his skull from the match

You know you're wrong, right? Just stop. You clearly make it obvious post after post especially by how aggravated you keep getting like if you were on someth---wait a minute is this Brock???

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>>1638459

>ok, so then after i rko you through the desk, we both wind up back in the ring and then what?

well randy, i was thinking at that point i'll go back on the offensive and change the momentum again

>ok

then i'll get on top of you and mimic doing mma style ground and pound

>ok

but then, what i want to do next is, i want to legitimately elbow you as hard as i can as many times as it takes to open up a cut on the top of your head

>..............

and then after that

>hang on a second Brock, why don't i just blade or better yet, why don't i just hide a blood pellet under one of my wrist bands, at some point sneak it into my mouth and bite down on it while your doing the ground and pound

Nah, I'd really prefer it if I deliver elbows to the top of your head until it creates a gash

>..................................well, ok then Brock, i'll allow you, someone who elbows people in the head for a living, to elbow me in the head for however long it takes to create a gash on my head so it bleeds so much we have to stop the match, even though there are several ways we can accomplish this that would be much more reliable and safer

great, hey, do you know if that Becky chick is dtf? I saw her pussy on TV. Sable aint getting any younger you know.

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>all these people acting like the new generations are just pussies
Ok, listen, the past had tons of violence and blood, yes, but it was controlled, people expected it, knew it was coming. They bladed... but Brock literally took someone not suspecting it, and tore a gash in his head with an elbow. It's not so much the blood that bothers people... it's the fact that it was a sloppy, dumb move, that probably knocked orton out, and caused him to be tko'd just do to the fact that it was not planned.

Why is this some kind of shit about "Back in my day" with wrestling. You think anyone back then would get clocked super hard to where they spill tons of blood and be fine with it when it's a surprise, just because it was back then?

>>1638572
KEK

>>1638569

Do you actually think Orton has a cracked skull? Are you high?

>>1638583
Go home Phil, don't you have some kicks to practice?

>>1638558
Plunger

>>1638584
screenshot this

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Chris Jericho was right when he told orton he's gonna pay for his "no enhancement needed" line

>>1638590
it was already posted that he has 10 staples and no concussion or anything else. reported by wwe.

>>1638577
It literally happened 4 years ago you cuck.

>>1638607
what happened 4 years ago? I'm addressing most of the chat in general.

>>1638606
>thinking they've got x-ray machines in the back

>>1638616
pretty safe to say he elbowed him hard enough for a gash, and nothing more. stop exaggerating like he caved his shit in repeatedly.

>>1638611
Lesnar destroyed cena's face at extreme rules 2012

>>1638629
Yes, but I also don't recall it looking like Cena passed out or was going to. Going back to the video, it looks like the elbow actually knocked Orton out for a second or 2. At that point you can't let someone fight.

>>1638351
didn't Foley and Funk try for a hardway in 2006? WWE does in fact have a precedent for trying.

>>1638136
how do you even avoid a thumbtack in your eye

>>1638641
Maybe you should watch that match again coz he too looked dazed as fuck but he also had a bunch of stoppages throughout the match.

>>1638577

>He thinks it wasn't in the script for the match to end by TKO

Get worked

>>1638649
They tried to beat the shit out of each other and both knew they'd almost certainly draw blood if they executed the stuff they had planned. But, there wasn't a spot in the the match that required blood that was completely reliant on strikes to happen. Not only is that really unsafe, but it's unreliable when you can be sure of getting blood through other means.

>>1638536
eh, it was beyond typical. I'd say it was more than a cut even, was a nice opened up gash. probably would have stopped an mma fight, above the eye and all.

Based Brock

Fagdy Fagton deserved it for sandbagging desu.

>>1638660
thats not true, Foley wrote in his book that he went to Vince and wanted a specific spot for the hardway. I don't understand how anyone can think this wasn't a worked shoot. It was meant to put heat back on Lesnar as a heel rather than having people pop for his suplex city bs.

>>1638474
>Vince wouldn't have let Lesnar manha

Except that's what Lesnar was doing and smarks were cheering it on.

>>1638629
Lesnar opened up a cut on on Cena, yes.
But the blood spot was not integral to the. Cena actually won that match and they had to stop that match at on point to control the bleeding of the cut on Cena.

In the match tonight, it ended after the cut. If you believe it was a work and it was planned for Lesnar to elbow Randy until he started to bleed, you're nuts. There's so many easier ways to do this that are safer and more reliable. There is a such thing as a blood spot. There's no such thing as a blood spot that is caused by strikes to the head that is a work.

>>1637979

>Brock isn't a great wrestler

t.15 year old

>>1638684

Please tell us how the match was supposed to end, since you're such an insider.

Do you also believe Taker wasn't supposed to win last year at summerslam?

>>1638670
Must have been blading then. Strikes causing cuts can not be relied on. Some guys cut easier than others, some guys are more capable of causing them. Anyone who follows any combat sport knows this. Some guys cut way easier than others. You don't have a blood spot and leave it up to chance. It's all together possible Mick figured he'd be bleeding pretty good at a certain point in a match, but he still would have had a back up plan to blade if need be. You don't leave these things to chance and strikes causing cuts is anything but a sure thing.

This reminds me of when people were saying Reigns really busted Brock up when there's literal footage of the ref handing him the blade.

Blading still happens kids. Ric Flair taught Randy all about it. Also isn't randy also now a part timer?

>>1638689

>cool to see him come back if only to spear and jackhammer Brok

Yup, I clearly meant Brock was going to come back to spear and jackhammer Brock...

>>1638695
No idea how the match was supposed to end tonight. But there was no plan for Brock to elbow Randy in the head until he started bleeding. Sorry, but that's crazy and just not true. Brock was probably supposed to win anyway, but again, you don't work bleeding from elbows to the head, especially in 2016 in the WWE. We're talking about a company that won't let Seth do a curb stomp and years ago banned Randy from punting people in the head.

>>1638711
No, looks like he's a full timer again.

I'm sure randy knows how to blade, but if you look at the video and at the gash on Randy's head, it's really clear it was a result of an elbow from Brock. I'm not saying we'll never see blading or blood pellets again, but it doesn't look like that's what happened tonight.

>>1638718

WWE lets Brock's matches have blood in them. Is this the first time you're watching a Brock match?

>This petrified by blood

>>1638718

The match ended the way it was supposed to end cause that was what was in the script.

Seriously, quit working yourself into a shoot over something so obviously scripted. When Brock attacked the camera man and Michael Cole after mania, that wasn't him shooting (although some idiots were saying he was), it was literally in the script.

They'll probably come out tomorrow and say Brock is suspended and use that as a reason to write him off until they need him for next year again cause frankly there's nothing left for him to do with this depleted weak (now split up) roster.

Maybe Brock really was shooting and burst Randy up intentionally, but that match was 100% meant to end that way. It's not the first time a match has ended like that in WWE, the same happened between Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens.

>>1638741
Yeah, Brock's matches tend to have blood and WWE knows that. But that's completely different than saying the the finish depended on Randy being cut open by strikes to the head that resulted in not just a gash, but a really bad gash that was bleeding so much it would force a stoppage. That's a big leap.

>>1638761
see
>>1638572
Sorry, but you're the mark if you honestly think they wrote in the script "And then Brock will elbow Randy in the head however many times it takes to open a giant gash on the top of his head and it bleeds so much the match has to be stopped."

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>>1638784
>thinks wrestling is real
>calls others marks

Holy shit, what's so hard about saying "Hey, I don't know whether it's a work or a shoot"?

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>>1638817
I'm not sure how reading any of that would make you think that I'm under the impression that wrestling is real.
You're either a retard, a troll or you realize how fucking wrong you are but are unwilling to admit it so you're just digging in. Either way, it's time to stop talking to you.

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Pussy shit compared to what you see in actual combat sports on a daily basis.

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>>1638827
>not knowing how to tell the difference
Here's a helpful guide for you newmarks
1) Did they cut away at any point while the work/shoot was happening?
B) Was the offending performer legitimately punished in any way? (i.e. shoot fired or suspended)
IV) Did the incident hurt the business as a whole in the long-term?

If you answered no to any or all of these, then it was a work. Only marks who likely thought the pipebomb was a shoot at the time think this was too.

>>1638230
>Roid monkey

You understand that most of the WWE roster has juiced, right? I agree that they're all still monkeys though, for the sole entertainment of people.

>>1637465
Pussy