I'm starting to think that wrestling would better if it

>Old guys still running rampant
>company that doesn't like wrestling owning WCW
>Atrocious booking
Yeah, WCW should have won

>>1610892
Have you watched any WCW from 2000?

>>1611188
wCw 2000>>>>>>>>>WWE 2016

And it's objectively true

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>>1611250
This

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>>1610892
>I'm starting to think that wrestling would better if it had been Vince that went out of business.

>>1611250
Easy for to say this when you weren't even alive in 2000.

>>1610892
No, WCW was in a downward spiral. What would have been best is if WCW survived, restructured, and reset to what made them successful and go from there. Develop and move forward with a proper post-nWo strategy that didn't revolve around trying to revive the group with different people over and over.

>>1610892
Nah, I was a WCW fanboy during the Monday Night Wars and the alternate timeline still would have been shit.

Just like Vince mails it when he had no competition, WCW was prone to doing the same. Every single year during the Monday Night Wars, RAW would get preempted for the Westminster Kennel dog show. Since every wrestling fan with a television only had one choice in what to watch on that Monday night, what do you think WCW did year after year? Huge main event that would keep people talking and steal viewers? Huge debut of former WWF star? Nope. They'd take the night off creatively and put out their lamest show of the year.

>>1612190
Remember that time where the entire first hour was a Kevin Nash documentary?

>>1611704
I'm over 21 and there's this thing called the WWE Network where you can watch the entire year of 2000 WCW and it BTFO WWE 2016

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>>1611945
Supposedly, that was the idea. Bischoff was going to hit the reset button with The Big Bang PPV.

Unfortunately, Brad Siegel illegally sabotaged WCW illegally and hand delivered the company to Vince McMahon on a silver platter for dirt cheap.

>While Fusient was still at the negotiating table [and negotiating in good faith], Siegel was contacting his friend Stu Snyder at the WWF to figure out what needed to be done to make sure the WWF got the deal." According to Ryder, Siegel and " Stu Snyder (the top WWF exec who brokered the deal) were friends and co-workers when Snyder worked with Time Warner. It is widely believed that Siegel offered the job of WCW President to Snyder near the end of the Busch era, but that Snyder turned it down and went to work with the WWF."
"When it became obvious that the only way the WWF could get back in the hunt to buy WCW would be if the shows were cancelled...that's exactly what Siegel made sure happened."

>"Siegel sabotaged his own company by convincing Kellner to cancel the shows. He did that AFTER he made a call to Stu Snyder and found out the only way he could make a deal with the WWF was to cancel the shows." "Once the shows were cancelled, that narrowed the potential buyers to one."

>"There were at least four offers from people who were willing to pay much more than the WWF paid..... A group headed by former WCW exec Jay Hassman had tried several times to be included in the bidding, and they were ignored repeatedly."

>>1612234
>Bischoff was going to hit the reset button
Yeah, and if you want to know what that would have been like, just go look at what he did in TNA.

>>1610892
David Arquette. Enough said

>>1610897
You just described WWE

>>1612234
This makes me mad

>>1612254
Big difference. In TNA, he was forced to work with Vince Russo.

If he had bought WCW, Russo had already been shown the door at that point and there's no way in hell Bischoff would have allowed him back.

>>1612234
>>1612267
>Now while all this is shady, it's also illegal. Because AOL Time Warner was a public company, this could be considered sabotage and could have been investigated by the SEC. Brad Siegel could have gone to jail if there was an investigation and all this was true.

>The nub of Ryder's argument is that whatever Siegel's reasons for getting rid of WCW to WWF - "Siegel's actions weren't in the best interest of stockholders..."

>"How stupid do you have to be not to realize that it's a better business decision to take an offer of say $20 million with $5 million paid upfront in cash as opposed to a deal totalling $2.5 million that leaves you liable for $15 million in salary to people who will be sitting home taking paychecks for three years?"

>"The way Brad Siegel handled the company was at best inept leadership. At worst it was criminal."

>>1612282
>Regardless, one of the interested buyers of WCW was apparently Jerry Jarrett (who eventually started TNA).

>WCW gave Jerry Jarrett all the information he needed to make a bid but Jarrett was stonewalled by WCW. Ryder claims it wasn't Bischoff who did the stone walling.

>"Early in the year, before Busch left...Jarrett was brought in to meet with Siegel. Several things were talked about, and Jarrett let Siegel know that he would be interested in buying the company if it ever ended up being put up for sale. When it became obvious that the company was going to be sold, several groups started trying to put deals together. ....Jarrett received virtually every important financial document needed to put his deal together, and still has those documents. My conversations with Jarrett were always along the lines of his wanting to make sure the company was bought by someone other than Vince McMahon.He [Jarrett] was stonewalled...but ultimately it was in favor of Vince McMahon, not Eric Bischoff. When Siegel pulled the trigger on the deal, he ended up blowing everyone else out of the water so McMahon was the only one who could buy it. Jarrett was being represented by one of the top investment bankers in the country, and Siegel refused to return his calls. (Bob Ryder Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 07:39 pm)

>>1612273
Bischoff was executive producer from the start of 2010 until he went home in October 2013. Russo was head writer when Bischoff arrived, stepped down to contributing writer in October 2011, and officially left in February 2012 before sneaking in the back door after Bischoff's departure. If you really want to say that Russo was the only problem, then you'd better be prepared to defend March 2012 through to October 2013.

Maybe you'd care to start by explaining the greatness of the Claire Lynch angle?