/herp/ - Reptile & Amphibian General

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>>2395052

Is a prepared diet okay for an older bearded dragon (maybe 4, 5 years old)? Is it okay to supplement it every now and then with fresh insects and veggies?

>>2395053
Your tank needs better hides. The skull and aquarium coliseum wall don't provide enough coverage.

>>2392744
every gecko is kept separatedly

>>2395058
No, fresh veg and insects are the staple.

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I know quite a few people here have uromastyxes. I'm interested in eventually getting one myself, specifically a red niger. Where do you get them? Ordering online or reptile shows? Where is a good place to order them in the US?

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>>2395189
Beware online, most (well a lot) are wild caught.

Fauna usually has cb geyri (red or yellow) for sale.

I have a Mali Uromastyx myself. I got a pic of him today seems he is finally darkening up a bit and hitting his "puberty".

>>2395189
the only place off the top of my head is deer fern farms
they have a whole breeding operation going

Posting in this thread too. I'm going to be applying the grout on friday

>>2395266

FYI he moved from my state of WA to Florida. I tried contacting him since then to no avail. Not sure if he changed websites or whatnot but it's been a struggle to get a hold of him since the move.

I got a crested gecko a week ago, when should I clean his tank and handle him? I looked it up, but most websites have various answers

>>2395574
when it's dirty and never

>>2395574
Spot clean droppings as needed. Clean water spots off the glass when they annoy you. Partial substrate change every six months or so unless you have a springtail/isopod cleaning crew.

Wait until gecko is regularly eating on a stable schedule before handling.

Does anybody have large enclosures?

Just finished up building a 4x4x6 enclosure for a green iguana. I'm having trouble figuring out the most efficient way to heat something that large. The basking spots are fine but I'd like to get a decent ambient temp in there too. Any ideas?

>>2396151
What is your tank made of? First step i would take is to address heat loss due to lack of insulation. Additional heat can be added with a couple extra ceramic heat emitters. Heat retaining decor (rocks) will also help get the ambient up.

>>2396151
I had a 4x4x5.5 enclosure I built for my iguana that got destroyed in a flood last august
I kept the room heated with a radiator in the range of 75-80 with a CHE pointed directly on his basking platform
He still preferred to sit in the window and watch cars/people go by most of the time

When I get some extra cash my next project is going to be something like 4x8x8 or 5x7x8

Currently hes in a 3x6x2.5 cage I built out of scraps of my pantry and cabinets that didnt get water on them and I just keep it ontop of a table overlooking the room so he still has some height

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>>2396250
pic related

random question for any hot keepers/anyone else who'd like to speculate:
are venomous snakes necessarily more aggressive than non venomous ones? obviously they're more dangerous, but are they innately more inclined to bite than boas, pythons, colubrids, etc.
what are the odds of an eyelash viper biting you compared to a corn snake biting you

>>2396305
Depends on the species
A black racer is more likely to bite you than a gaboon viper
The issue lies in the severity. A racers bite might not even break skin. The gaboon could kill you

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How long do you keep repashy in the enclosure before changing? I also refrigerated a pre-mix, but not sure when that expires too.

>>2396458
>How long do you keep repashy in the enclosure before changing?
2 days
>>2396458
>I also refrigerated a pre-mix, but not sure when that expires too.
Once it gets crusty

/herp/ discord
https://discord.gg/g59mdCa

>>2396487
>discord
i want this meme to die

>>2396487
Stop trying to kill the thread faggot

>>2396458
Premix is good for one week in the fridge.

Reposting from old thread
What's the best site to order black soldier fly larvae from? I'm in America

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Why are snakes frightening to a lot of people? I know our caveman ancestors had an instinctive fear but anyone with access to the Internet and literacy can identify a venomous and harmless snake at a relative glance. Once I learned about them I never had that instinctive fear of them again, but maybe I'm just a reptile sympathizing degenerate.

>>2396817
most people don't care about learning about animals

>>2396764
Depends where you live.
I know NEherp sells them for an okay price.

>>2396817
People are very proud of being retarded and will resist education by any means necessary.

I want to start taming my flighty crestie, but at the same time I don't wanna stress it out too much watdo

>>2396817
I was never afraid of snakes so it always came as odd when people were so afraid of them like they just got locked in a room with a crocodile or some shit
Always got angry when people needlessly killed them and would parade them around like "Look at me I kill harmless animal because they are evil and i am good"
Its probably>>2396823 this though the amount of people i come across who will say with no qualms fuck all nature if it can get me a footup is mildy disturbing

>>2396950
On feeding days, dab a bit of cgd on your finger and rest your hand inside the tank for about 15 minutes. If gecko doesn't come to investigate no worries, just put feeding dish in and try again the following feeding day. Once they're comfortable licking food off your fingers they will usually readily climb right on to your hand. Keep handling sessions short (no more than 15 minutes).

>>2396817
It's not surprising at all, they killed us as small mammals, as monkeys and they continue to do so today. They're our greatest natural predator, it's in our genes.

>>2397000

Oh, I forgot to clarify: do not pursue the gecko with your cgd covered finger. Hold it still several inches AWAY from the gecko and let gecko come to you.

>>2397002
I've been feeding it with a spoon couple days ago, ima try this out sounds like it will do the trick.

>>2397014
Here's the lil guy. Anyone know the morph? https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=hDqaI7QhB48

>>2397030

Your video isn't working for me but from the thumbnail it looks like bicolor dalmation.

>>2397001
except for almost all snake related deaths/bites are from people being retarded and messing with them
And people have the same reaction to spiders even though almost all spider bites wont kill you

>>2397148
You're putting modern day situations to the ancestral natural reaction to sneks.

>>2397324
well excuse me for thinking modern day man should be held to modern day standards

Can someone give me a quick rundown on how I can give a turtle the best care possible for as cheap as possible.

>>2397445
an aquatic turtle i assume?
craigslist, never know what you'll find
otherwise find a farm supply store and get a nice sized water trough, its not pretty but they're excellent
filters and lights and shit are gonna cost you though, no way around it

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Can anyone ID this lizard? Found it near Dallas.

>>2397941
Looks like an eastern fence lizard.

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Froges

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Got this for 50 CDN because of the regrown tail. Keep your gargoyles separate except when breeding

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This is pretty much how all my juvie crested and gargoyle set up looks like. But I will eventually get some bioactive vivarium for all my future breeders when they grow up. Wood is from a maple tree, baked in an oven

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>>2398288

>>2398289
The gecko in that picture also has a regrown tail. Pet stores fault for housing them together, not mine . I've never had a gecko lose a tail under my care

>>2398290
...I meant to quote this:
>>2398288

But at 50 dollars CDN for the ones without perfect tails as opposed to the regular 150 CDN, I didn't really mind

>>2398289
>artifical plants
boo

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They aren't housed together
You can also see what happens after you boil a plastic plant

>>2398294
Paper towels is a better substrate for juvies so you can monitor their health and also for reduced impaction risk and everyone uses fake plants, they help them exercise their tails even better than many real plants
After having a hatchling die from choking on coco fiber over ten years ago, I've never housed a juvie gecko on loose substrate
That means no plants

>>2398296
you can have plants in pots

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>>2398298
I'm not going to risk any getting ingested when they hunt

>>2398302
how much did you pay for one crested gecko?

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>>2398303
50-120 CDN depending on the gecko, store or breeder
And one time I got an adult female for 30

One year old lurker here, I need help with my turtle. Is it ok to ask here? I seldom see turtleposting in this general.

>>2398329
>one year old
You need to be 18+ to post here.
Remarkable communication skills for such an early age however.

>>2398329
A small handful of people have anything other than snakes and lizards, but they're there. Last thread had some turtle posting.

What kind of turtle is it?

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Thank you kind anons. That's the story: I've had this turtle since I was very little so I'm really attached to it. However, since I don't live with my parents anymore, I can't take care of it as I'd like. When the tank broke my dad decided to arrange an outside pond for Turtle. I've always been egoistically against it because I fear it wouldn't recognize me anymore.

Anyway I didn't complain. The pond has a fence all around, it has sunlight and shadow in equal misure, a piece of wood provides a shelter if Turtle wants to hide, and there is a large basking zone. In theory the pond itself is made of a special turtle designed plastic that allows something related to turtles, but I don't know what at this point. He convinced me that the dirt and the ground the turtle brings in the pool, darkening the water, allow the thing to feel like a real pond to the turtle (sorry for my bad english). But I've searched in the net and generally people seem to be against it, saying the water should be clean.

My dad doesn't believe and he's also reluctant to change things since he spent a lot on money on the outside pond already. But today I checked turtle and it's wounded! Well I assume these are wounds. So my questions are:
Are these serious? What should I do?
May it be caused by the plastic? I mean maybe Turtle is injuring itself when it comes out of the pond.
May it be a disease, then?
How should I treat turtle to make it recover and how can I prevent this from happening again.

Thanks in advance, I know there are sources in the net but I trust real owners more.

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Reposting some cool posts that are maybe a year old:

/herp/ great pets you may not have thought of #1


Woma Python

>difficulty: easy

>nocturnal

>4.5 - 6 feet in length with potential for larger depending on specific locale

>arid climate

>temp range high 70's to high 80's with humidity 50%-70%


pros:

>enthusiastic feeders

>friendly

>active


cons:

>slightly more expensive than other common snakes.

>>2398380
It's hard to tell but it looks either like abrasions or septicemia. Is there anything in the pond that's too rough?

I'd say try to locate a vet for a better insight.

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Can anyone help ID this species? Found in Middle Tennessee.

>>2398523
Fence lizard

How long does it take for a crested gecko to reach full size? Mine has doubled in size since I got it a year ago, but it is still much smaller than the ones I see at reptile shows.

I put fresh food in its tank every day and while I don't really notice any missing, the fact that it's still alive and there are feces in the tank is proof enough that he's eating.

Should I try rotating in insects instead of the repashy diet a couple times a week?

>>2398539
Thanks. New to this stuff.

Do you think it's a coincidence that he camouflages so well with the surface he is on, or is it deliberate behavior?

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My Tarahumara Mountain boa. She's about 1.7 years old. Does she look fine, weight wise?

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>>2398558
another photo

>>2398546
mm could be
they're semi-arboreal and they also like rocky outcroppings, their stripes and dapples blend in reasonably well to both things

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My new little buddy

>>2398519
Not really, may it be caused by rocks/wood?

Best BD care resources? There's so much conflicting info on the interwebz

>>2398545

2 to 3 years depending. The last year they only grow a little bit before hitting adult plateau.

>Should I try rotating in insects instead of the repashy diet a couple times a week?

Reduce feeding rate to once every second day now. Yes you can do calcium dusted insects once a week. Appropriately sized dubia roaches work well for cresteds. Crickets are fine too but they're a pain to remove if your gecko doesn't eat them. Small roaches can't climb out of a glass dish with vertical sides at least 1 inch tall.

>>2398558

that is one qt looking boa.

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I think a frog is living on my car. It climbed onto the windshield while I was driving a couple days ago and moved into a small space between the hood and wipers where I couldn't reach. I thought it left but tonight I was driving through a rain shower and it reappeared, sat on the hood for a few minutes and climbed back into the space.

Are frogs smart like that or could it have been two different ones?

>>2398902
They will return to favorite spots to hunt or sleep, so yes could be same froge.

>>2394987
How do you guys deal with mold? I had to scrap put my tub throwing away the grapewood and spagnum moss since it caused the molding.

>>2399050
*scrap out

I'm now only using paper towels as substrate i used to only have some soagnum moss

>>2399050
I rarely get mold
mostly happens if a piece of food is unnoticed for along time or a waterbowl gets flipped and I dont tend to it in a timely manner

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I don't feel right getting a gecko without getting it a real nice terrarium, but I'm too cheap and want to make my own.
Suffering.
Anyone bothered with DIY terrariums?

>>2399145
DIY terrarium kits with pre cut oriented strand boards are pretty popular in Europe and available on ebay. Take a look at them for inspiration if you can't order these where you live. Doesn't get much cheaper than this.
Though I got lucky and got a large used glass terrarium for 10€ and glued a thick styrofoam insulation around it.

>>2398558
Looks good to me, anon.

What do i feed a gecko? im pretty sure its a gecko anyway, but its messed up, missing a tail and really small (child maybe). I tried giving it some tuna but its shown no interst

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>>2399214
picture foe incase anyone can identify it (Australia)

>>2399145
>so you come to me on the day of my daughters wedding

>>2399219
I don't know australian geckos for shit but I want to say it's a dtella. feed it small insects and also let it go or it'll die

>>2399282
seems to be, i already put it outside but it hasnt moved much (stayed in the container even though it can get out). The endolymphatic glands are huge on it although i know nothing about geckos

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Where tf are the tegus? What kinda reptile thread is this?

Post em if you got em

>>2399050
Springtail colony. They are extremely effective at mold control.

>>2399145
Yeah i'm in the process of building one now. It's pretty simple. You're just building a wood box with a glass door on the front and some ventilation. In my case i'm making for crested geckos so ot has to be water proof. After much research i decided to seal with marine varnish and silicone. It will take a couple months to off gas before it's safe but after that will be water tight.

>>2399325
Oh, and also it will have vinyl lining on the bottom third.

>>2398304
they are cheaper in poland

>>2399214
Never feed sea food to a gecko or tuna to a reptile
Terrible

>>2399282
If he could get it to eat small insects like crickets either field collected or store bought(indicating it's not overly stressed and at least somewhat comfortable), I'd recommend keeping it until it restores it's tail
But judging from the fact that he tried to feed it tuna, I'd say he probably won't be able to keep it alive, so let it go where you found it

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howdy boys, think one of ye'd be so kind as to identify this here creature for me? found him by the river in SE Michigan

>>2399698
its very deep in shed whatever it is
if you found it by a river its probably a water snake
Nerodia sipedon in all likelihood

U guys R rully disappointing mi wiff the lack of Tegu

>>2399362
Well even in the states some morphs can be quite expensive

>>2399734
Your grammar doesn't deserve any better.

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found this lil' noodle today in my pond
thought I'd share

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New setup for my crested gecko. Planted with pothos and anthurium. Have some isopods and springtails coming in as well as a few more plants and some hides. Will be replacing the lighting if the plants don't do well with it. Anything else I should add or am I set?

>>2400137

Looking good. The extra plants will fill it out nicely. One thing cresteds really love is an elevated cork round, which you can do by hanging one from the screen top with twine or zip-ties. Or use one of those magnetic dealios to stick to the glass (they're kind of expensive).

Hey /an/

any tips on convincing a leopard to eat?

mine stopped eating and developed a calcium deficiency so the vet has me giving him medicine every 12 hours now and I think this is stressing him out considerably.

he just looks away when I try to feed him, crickets, mealworms, supers, doesn't matter. Is there any way I can make them more appealing?

>>2400494
have you tried butterworms or waxworms?
leaving a dish of the calcium powder so he can maybe get some of that at least?

>>2400505
Have not tried those worms, I will give them a shot.

I leave out a small bit of the calcium powder as well as 5 dusted mealworms in case he gets hungry while I'm away, but so far he hasn't gone for those.

>>2400120
It's a ribbon snake.
They give birth about this time of year.

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I've got three layers of grout on the hides. I've still got to grout the rest of the background, that walkway, and then seal everything.

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>>2401056
2/3

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3/3

>>2400741
It's not a ribbon snake. It's a grass snake (Natrix natrix), a European species.

>>2401056
>>2401058
>>2401059
I'm not familiar with grouting - how does that stuff you made handle under high temperatures, humidity, etc.? How effective is it as insulation? Does it leave any sharp/rough edges that can hurt the reptile? Thinking of doing something similar for my snake.

>>2401495
well you use it to fill bathroom tile, its basically concrete
its only sharp if you dont sand it

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>>2401059

How thick is your mix and what are you using to apply it? It seems like you have very thin even levels and no runs. Even between your wall set which seems like a bitch.

Just curious because mine either wants to set up thick or runny.

Are you just brushing on very light layers multiple times?

>Also who's that Pokemon?

>>2401495
Not sure about heat, but it should be fine. You'll want to seal it with polyurethane that is water based. I don't know about the insulation, but I'm sure Styrofoam insulates. You can sand down any sharp edges.

>>2401520
>seal it with polyurethane that is water based

Speaking of which, I did a ton of research on this before choosing a sealant for my arboreal tank. For an arid climate herp definitely do go with water based poly. It will cure faster and is lower VOC. However, if you really need strong water resistance there are two ways to go, one is cheap and one is expensive.

Cheap: marine varnish (oil based). Once it cures it is durable as hell. The drawback is in the lengthy curing time. Marine varnish takes upwards of a month to cure and off-gas completely and it is unsafe for your herp to be anywhere near until that time. It is safe, yes even oil based stuff, after fully curing and a wash with soap and water.

secondary cheap: line the entire interior of your terrarium with linoleum/vinyl and silicone seal the joints. This is only feasible for flat surfaces.

Expensive: epoxy resin. This is what you would use if you're attempting to DIY an outdoor pond or even a wood aquarium. Pond Armor is a popular brand for these applications.

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>>2394987

Do you guys have any advice for someone who wants to get a crested gecko and has very little reptile experience?

Can I take it for walkies like a dog?

What's the deal with the morphs? What's a cool morph that will impress people on the internet?

>>2401586
>Do you guys have any advice for someone who wants to get a crested gecko and has very little reptile experience?
It's a perfect beginner reptile.

>Can I take it for walkies like a dog?
No.

>What's the deal with the morphs? What's a cool morph that will impress people on the internet?
Morphs are just different colors and patterns.
The one that will impress the most people is the one you like best.

Could you feed crested gecko diet to other reptiles? Primarily referring to the pangea brand stuff. Not as a main diet but as a treat for something like a bearded dragon or blue tongue skink.

>>2401794
I don't see why not. Repashy makes a different product for that though. It's called Grub Pie. It has a thick jello like consistency once mixed.

this is probably a long shot but ill ask anyways
anyone had any bad experience with http://www.globalexoticpets.com/
pretty much the only local place that has reptiles and i dont trust canadapost to get an animal here alive

>>2401834
I know about it but I've heard mixed reviews on it. I was just wondering since I have a massive bag of this pangea stuff for one gecko and I'm sure the beardy would enjoy a little bit of fruit slop from time to time

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Random Danger Noodle planning her escape.

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Got a phenomenal picture of my Paradigm boa Male.

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>>2402112
Never seen a paradigm like this, I hope his high yellows are genetic or a passed on polymorphic trait.

>>2402114
That's because it's not a paradigm.

>>2401887
The company says it's okay for dragons as a treat, but not a staple.
I've fed it to dragons and they loved it.

>>2402114
How long is he?

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can you help me ID this animal

>>2402238

sand noodle

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>>2402238
alternate angle

>>2402240
why is he doing it? was it the 3-day roadtrip?

>>2402234
It looks like a paradigm to me but I'm not an expert. A google search shows a lot of snakes that look like him.

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No axolotls? Lets fix that

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Yo /herp/ I just fed my Ball for the first time today and I want to know if i did something wrong.
After swollowed most of the mouse she started to do this and it seems like she was trying to get down some coconut fiber substrate she had eaten
Will she be ok? Should I have fed her out of the terrarium so the substrate wouldn't be an issue?

>>2402275
The substrate isnt an issue if it's hydrated right.
It did that it force the rat into its stomach.
I'd have pulled the substrate off it's mouth though

>>2402275
Pull the substrate out of its mouth you uncaring imbecile.
Eating substrate like that on occasion isn't a huge issue though. When the substrate is hard and/or grainy, it can be especially problematic, but coconut fiber is easily digested.
Feed it out of the tank, or in an area of the tank where that won't happen, and you will be fine.

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>>2402279
>I'd have pulled the substrate off it's mouth though
I think I would have scared it if I tried that, I've only had it for 6 days
>The substrate isnt an issue if it's hydrated right.
Its pretty dry there so that would be the issue

>>2402280
>uncaring imbecile
now thats just uncalled for

Thanks for the advise, any other tips for a first time snake owner?

>>2402275
did you do the slightest bit of research

>>2402284
Moisten your substrate a bit then. If the humidity is at 60%-70% in the enclosure, your snake should be fine. It looks perfectly hydrated to me.

>>2402286
>>2402284
I'll add that pythons don't go very often.
Give it a few weeks before you start to worry about impaction.

>>2402286
I've been keeping it at a 50-60%, these where the numbers I heard where best. 60% seems to be the most agreed upon number

>>2402285
I've never seen a snake go vertical like that when swallowing, that's why I got worried.

>>2402250
I've wanted an axolotl for a while. A friend used to have one, though they couldn't keep it for long because reasons, and I couldn't take it because I didn't have enough space for its tank. I'll regret it forever.

>>2402295
They're good numbers.
They go vertical, then bunch up and stretch to get food down sometimes. I noticed that younger snakes do it more often.

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>>2402244
This is a paradigm.

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>>2402318
This is also a paradigm.

>>2402302
Just buy one off caudata

>>2402339
>>2402302
My local fish/reptile store sells them for 30 dollars.

>>2402346
Depending on morph, that can be over priced

>>2402355
I didn't pay too much attention since I'm not into anything aquatic.

>>2402359
Theyre really easy to take care of

>>2402362
I just don't have any interest in anything without scales.
I might get a tentacled snake eventually, but not an axolotl.

Anyone have any advice on tiger salamanders?

>>2402372
they are big, fat and spend most of the time underground in their NEET cave

>>2402373
So like most of the people on this site

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>>2402374

Oh snap! Shots fired!!!

https://youtu.be/-Lsb7_VfMtQ

>>2402327
That one still does not have as much black as that anon's boa, and has a bit of that unique "T+ look" to it still. Whereas the other anon's boa does not.

If they know the parentage of their boa, then I'd be more likely to believe it was a paradigm, but it appears to have too bold of blacks if they're going off of looks alone.

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>>2402234
It was sold to me as a paradigm. I do not know who produced it of the parents of him.

Even if he doesn't produce he's still a gorgeous male.

Here's my baby Jungle hypo het khal

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>>2402982
And his girlfriend a Junglow

>>2402984
Looks mean as hell.

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>>2402985
Can't wait to produce High pink poss Super Junglows.

Any super Jungles I'll be keeping as well for pets since they can't really breed.

Here's my Largest female, a mystery albino.

>>2402988
Looks neutral.

>>2402982
Looks uncomfortable.

my sand boa is broken, instead of digging he is trying to climb out of his cage
how do i fix him? is he just unhappy with his tank? is he looking for a friend?

captcha: STOP ISOLATION

>>2403186

Check your temperatures. If temperatures are fine, he's fine. Snakes are always testing the security of their tanks.

Going to reptile show with my gf tomorrow for the first time anything I should keep in mind as a newbie? Note that I'm most likely not going to buy since I don't have the room or the time to keep anything rn.

If the ambient temp in the room my snake is in stays around 78-81
Do I need to have the heat sources on during the day?

>>2403405
depends what kind of snake

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>>2403409
Ball python

>get Leopard gecko
>qt
>hates being touched
>hides all the time
>all over net people having fun with their geckos
>mine hates me
What do i do, it hurts bros

>>2403528
realize that interaction should not be the reason to get herps in the first place, take it back and adopt some stinking cat

>>2403405
just use a thermostat, if it's warm enough it will keep the heating source off.

>>2403532
i have a cat, and i don't really want to give my gecko away, already have it like 3 years.

I just keep seeing pics like >>2399145
and can't help being jealous. Mine would never do something like this.

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>>2403539
>Mine would never do something like this.
Yes it would, because that's just an instinctive reaction when they are being held in an unnatural position.

>>2403543
it's just climbs my hand and runs away along the arm

>>2403375
repticon louisiana?
im goin there in like 30 minutes
Its pretty relaxed but the reptile shows down here are generally pretty small and your lucky to see more than beardies balls colubrids and geckos
One guy was selling caiman a few years back and there are some inverts and tortoises pretty commonly
Its fun though even if there isnt much that you wont see everywhere else

>>2403405
Yes. Bp's need a 90 degree hot spot.

>>2403546
Yes, that is normal leopard gecko handling. They don't sit still very often. Also those pictures you see with geckos on their backs, the people pushed them in to that pose a snapped a picture real quick. It looks cute but the geckos want to get back on their feet instantly.

>>2403644
the most it stays still is when he reaches top of my arm near head, and tends to stop there.
Other times he climbs on my back

>>2403528
Might aswell have gotten a salamander

>>2403679
i don't have heart to take him back

>>2403681
You could just try to socialize the gecko.

>>2403726
if he hates being handled after 3 years i doubt i can do anything :^(

>>2403728
Will it just sit somewhere like on your shoulder or chest

>>2403736
sometimes he indeed sits on shoulder or chest, avoids my hands though

>>2403739
You coumd try to ease him into it

>>2403567
Literally just left and I ended up getting a regular ball python. I know I've been wanting one for awhile but wasn't sure if I wanted to make the investment

>>2403812
I went intending to get nothing
walked out with a piece of driftwood and a hognose qt3.14 after gf kept insisting
those carpet pythons were fucking gorgeous though and I wish i had more money

>>2403826
Those carpet pythons were beautiful. My gf really wanted a crested gecko, but she back out of it. I was thinking about getting one of the morphs instead of a normal ball, but this is my first snake in a long time so better yet not make a major investment.

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>>2402982
So teeny!

>>2402984
Looking good, even deep in shed.

>>2403405
Yes.

Yesterday was a bad day for me. I had to euthanize one of my rainbow boas, because of a possible congenital disorder. He would have been 2 years old next month, but was barely bigger than a hatchling. From my best guess, his digestion abilities were interrupted by something, maybe a physical deformity or something to do with his hormones or something.

So I took a few of my other snakes outside that day, this guy will be 3 years old in August, he's sitting around the 4' mark.

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>>2403838
This is the other remaining rainbow, a 2 year old hypo, she's 3'-3.5'.

>>2403846
>>2403838
where do you people keep those balls if you buy them on spot without previous planning.
Do you just let them slither around house

>>2403850
I keep my balls inside my pants.

>>2403678
I had a leo some years back that was fascinated by my ears. Every time out of the tank he would head up my arm to my shoulder and flick his tongue at my ears.

>>2403850
i got a hognose earlier and kept it in the cup and then stopped at walmart and bought small storage box, drilled some holes in it tossed in some aspen I had already and used my balls old heating pad he outgrew

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>>2403838
Thank you, yeah Onyxia is a good looking junglow. Here's a pic post shed.

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>>2402988
Here's another picture of my mystery albino doing her thing. She thinks she's an emerald tree boa

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Store said he was a barred tiger salamander, not too sure if thats right.

Where's a good site to order a baby, captive bred, blue tongue skink online? And preferably near northern California?

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>>2403850
Not really sure what you're trying to say here. Unless you misquoted.

>>2403901
I'm hoping to make my own in a few years, jungle makes everything better.

This is my adult jungle girl.

What's better for a ball: a glass tank or a plastic tub? I have my old glass tank for my new ball that I just got and was thinking about switching to a plastic tub cause it sounds like I can control the humidity easier.

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>>2404021
She's gorgeous.

I'm hoping to produce Jungle poss super sunglows with her and him.

Any super jungles I'll be keeping since they're somewhat effective but still incredible looking.

Can't wait to get my IMG Anery male and Female VPI het anery this year or next. Looking to produce some IMG VPI snows down the line.

>Here's my female supposed Paradigm for my male supposed paradigm above.

how frequently should my 10 month old sand boa shed? i've had it for a month, feeding pinkie mice every sunday, and he hasn't shed yet

is he broken?

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>>2404027
For a ball python, a tub is better, as it will hold humidity much better without any modification beyond a few air holes drilled/melted into the sides.

Keep in mind, if you use a UTH or flexwatt, you will have to heat the entire room to about 80F so that the snake will have proper ambient temperatures, as these heat sources do not raise the ambient temperatures.

Tubs can be modified to be heated with CHEs, but keep in mind you'll have the same problems as with a tank if you do this. RHPs can also be installed, but they will need bracings on the lid, and you'll have to be careful to make sure the security is not compromised and modify it accordingly.

>>2404035
Super jungles are like arabesques, they have to be super slow grown to be able to breed. Or so I've heard. Very few people attempt breeding them from what I've seen.

I'm breeding that jungle to this guy either this fall or next. AFAIK he's just a regular ghost, no clue if he has any hets or not. I got him as an adult from an individual and his breeder dropped out of the hobby. Not the best case scenario, but he was too good of quality for me to pass him up.

>>2404037
I've found that regardless of species or age, snakes tend to shed every 1-3 months on average, but I've had them go as long as 7-8 months (despite nearly doubling weight and growing half a foot).

Just give him time and he'll shed when he's ready.

>>2404119
Awesome! Thank you for the advice!

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>>2404119
good looking ghost.
From what I've read and from those I talked to a male has sired a litter with one living baby, the females all from what I've read are infertile.

I mean jungle has been around forever, you'd think we'd see more supers producing if being slow grown was the case.

My one non-boa snake, Illidan my BP.

Someone on craigslist is selling an aberrant hi-white california king and I don't know what I should pay.
What should I pay? I asked for some photos.

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>>2404328
Thanks, hopefully he'll produce some great babies for me.

I've just heard that they have produced before, but I haven't looked too much into in more detail. At least supers are still good pets.

This is the other male boa I've got in the breeding group, he's just a juvenile, though. Anery motley poss het Kahl.

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>>2404575
Motley is something I want to incorporate in my IMG VPI plan. My buddy just produced some Motley VPIs I might be picking up!


Here's my hogisland.

The previous owner power fed her slightly. She's over 5ft at 3 years old which is huge for a dwarf locality. So I'm stepping her chunky but back to mediums every 14-21 days.

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>>2404587
Hogs aren't dwarves, but 5' is still on the larger end for a 3 year old. I feed mediums every 4 myself, but 21 days should be sufficient. 14 days will still be way too often, though, I start my neonates off eating every 10-14 days, and by 2 years they're eating every 3 weeks.

I want motley IMGs pretty bad, but I'm going to wait until I produce at least my first litter before getting an IMG.

This is another female from the breeding group, a 2 year old sunglow poss het anery. I've been slow-growing her since I got her at one month old.

The 3rd female in the group was fed a bit heavily by the breeder, and I got her as a yearling, so she's a bit bigger, but I've managed to even out her growth by putting her on a proper schedule. She's still by far the fastest-growing boa I've got, though.

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>>2404497
I got this guy for 40 dollars
I like it

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>>2404607
Hogs are smaller than BCC and BCI boas, wouldn't that consider them dwarf?

Generally, my older sub adults/ adults are on a 2-3 week rotation with a skipped week every so often.


Keeps them having a perfect rectangle shape.

Can't get enough of this guy, probably the best picture I've taken in my damn life and it was a iPhone6.

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>>2404636
I'm so jelly of your boa
Rate mine
It was taken on a shit phone

>>2404641
I rate it potato/10.

That's an interesting boa, can't really tell what it is from the picture. Good looking tail.

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>>2404636
I get what you're trying to say, but there is a wild range of sizes for both BCC and BCI. There are BCC that top out at 5', there are BCC that top out at 9'. There are BCI that top out at 3', and BCI that top out at 8'-9'. Just depends on the locality.

Hog Islands average 5'-7' with the potential for 8', so they're not dwarves.

>>2404644
Looks like a hypo Nic.

I'll rate 5/10, because I'm not a fan of dwarf morphs, but this one is comparatively clean and bright.

Pic is the bigger 2 year old female. She's a few weeks younger than the sunglow, a poss super ghost poss het Kahl.

I feed my boas like this:

Birth-1 year: 10-14 days
1 year: no more than 14 days
2 years: 3 weeks
3+ years: 4-6 weeks

Plus, 1.5-2 year olds get fed half as often during the winter, and 2.5-3+ year olds either get completely fasted or fed half as often over the winter.

>>2404652
>Looks like a hypo Nic
Heat hypo. The version for them is codominant
He's cleaner and brighter now, its an old photo

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>>2404656
*het hypo.
I'm on an old phone and funny have my photos.
Here us another potato pic

>>2404497

Maybe $30-$50 for a hatchling, no more than $100 for a well established yearly. And that's assuming your seller is a breeder who knows wtf he's doing. Don't pay more than $50 if he's a hobby breeder. And the photos had better be good.

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>>2404652
Neat, from what I've read they stay smaller. Neat, I wonder if she'll hit that 7 ft size with how young she is and being power fed by her previous owner.

Why fast them over winter or is it their choice?
Never had a refused meal of my 4.5 year old female or 3 ish year old male during the winter, but then again I don't cool them down for the breeding season.

What are you feeding your 3+-year-old adults every 4-6 weeks?
>>2404657
can't necessarily say het hypo, it's a co-dom it has a visual and a super visual.

>>2404666
His parents were a hypo and a regular so he's 100% het

>>2404680
I think you're confusing co-dom and heterozygous.

Hypo x normal = 50% hypo 50% normal litter.

>>2404685
The trait itself co-dom, he's a het.
I don't see the issue with the

>>2404656
It's not a het hypo. If it carries the hypo gene at all, it will visibly be a hypo. Therefore it is a hypo, a homozygous hypo would be a super hypo.

Sure, biologically it's a heterozygous hypomelanistic individual, but "het ___" has very specific connotations in the reptile world. A het is something that carries one set of genes, but doesn't visibly show it. You have het albinos and het anery, but not het hypos or het motleys for example. You have hypos, motleys, super hypos, and super motleys.

>>2404666
It's possible she will, being a female. Power feeding doesn't increase their potential size, though, it only affects the rate at which they reach those sizes. If you feed her appropriately, it will be a long time before she reaches 7'.

I fast them because their bodies are built for times of feast and famine, it can affect their long term health to be in a constant state of digestion, and several of my boas are going to be breeders and they will go off of food eventually anyways because of that. Might as well get them used to it.

I feed my adults every 4-6 weeks because feeding them any more often than that is overfeeding and can lead to obesity and liver failure. They have very slow metabolisms and hold onto extra calories extremely well. You can get a boa morbidly obese in the course of a few months, but it could take 3-4+ years to get them to shed that weight off again.

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>>2404745
Fair enough. I'll make sure to remember that.
Have a more recent photo

>>2403948
>snapchat
that is not a barred tiger salamander, try taking a pic when he's more clean

>>2398702
Ton-Chan!

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How many of your friends/family disowned you for having snakes?

>>2405113
No family because my parents are breeders. One friend who is deathly afraid of snakes (and actually ripped a garter snake up on purpose, just to torture it, so I'm kind of glad actually)

>>2405113
my mom
but little did she know I disowned her when I was 15 because she is a drug addled alcoholic who can only thing of where to get her next fix
step father thinks all my herps are neat though

>>2405113
My coworkers arent fond of it.
But what sense is there in keeping people around if they hate the things you enjoy enough to get rid of you for it?

>>2405113
The holes on some snakes faces really creep me out.
Not enough to disown someone though, that's intolerant as hell.

>>2405113
none, what the fuck kind of person disowns someone for having a pet?

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>>2405184
Some people, like family, may just never come around if they have an actual phobia. Which I suppose is OK as long as they still invite you to their house

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>>2405186
You'd be very, very surprised.

>>2402243
Kenyan sand boa, they love to burrow so I believe that's normal.

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>>2405122
That is super fucked up. But I guess some people don't give a fuck about some animals, like how a dog lover could light spiders on fire

wow great we now have our very own avatarfagging redditor in here! fuck off and kys

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>>2405226

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R8 my snek

>>2405246
the most generic snake one could posibly have. yawn....

>>2405249
Common species are common because they're good pets. There's nothing wrong with having a corn or a ball python.

>>2405246
I dont think he likes your phone though

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>>2405249
Are snakefags really this vain?

>>2405257
He's just a massive faggot.

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>>2405254
>>2405257
>>2405261
>guy asks to rate his generic babby's first herp that looks exactly the same as the million others that are getting spammed everywhere
>people get triggered when I don't compliment him on his le epik snek snoot boop
back to plebbit you oversensitive pussies

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>>2405267
I would see shit talking on his snake if it was poorly taken care of or unhealthy, but I just don't get shitting on an animal because it's ordinary. I guess that's just your thing though, being a conceited prick.

>>2405257
Of course they are. Why do you think there is such a high demand inbred unstable unhealthy "morphs" instead of stable, healthy, active and interesting wild forms.

>>2405276
How big do these frogs get and how long do they stay clamped onto cylindrical appendages for
Asking for a friend

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>>2405281
I don't follow snake stuff much, I always kept my nose to the frogs. But I looked up expensive snakes, this shit is ridiculous.

These things cost more than my car

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>>2405285
They can reach 7 inches in length, I don't feel inclined to answer that second question for your 'friend' though.

>>2405281
SMASHED and SLAMMED toadline snakes when?

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>>2405293
Can snakes be smashed and slammed if they have no front legs? How can we make snakes so unhealthy that even a retard can tell something is wrong with it? And then make money off of it?

>>2405290
You've told me enough friend
I'll make sure to pass the information to my friend
;^)

>>2405295
I've seen some pretty fucked up ball pythons

>>2405295
Inbreed them until their ribs start bending outward. If they can't mate naturally anymore, we'll start selling frozen cum so people can artificially inseminate their toadsnakes with only the most slammed semen.

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>>2405299
Do you have any pics? I'm genuinely curious.

>>2405287
An albino BP should not cost that much. For the truly rare morphs, prices are dictated by the breeders who want to keep exclusivity on a particular bloodline for a while. The prices are based on breeders buying from other breeders jockeying over market share.

It's dumb but so it goes.

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>>2405302

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>>2405302
ayy lmao

>>2405307
S M A S H E D
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>>2405304
How much do albinos generally go for? I don't know much about snake retail but I agree, I've seen my fair share of albinos though
>>2405307
The fuck is happening here?

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Can someone explain to me why this guy is going for 45k?

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>>2405293
Found your SMASHED breeding line

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Not sure what line this would be though

>>2405317
>How much do albinos generally go for?

For just albino with no other genes and no hets, about $150-$200 regular price (less at expo). Other genes can ramp the price up a lot. Like I see albino pieds listed for over $1000 regularly. Hets will also raise the price, again because these really high prices are directed to people who will most likely breed the snek and sell the offspring as a competitor against the orginal breeder.

>>2405396
I really don't get this. I like this hobby because of the cool animals, but this is absolutely not about the animals anymore. Quite the opposite actually, the animals are suffering because they are treated like some sort of designer accessoire.

How did we let it get this far? It's not quite to the point of SMASHED AND SLAMMED BONEGIRTH yet, but it's heading there and it scares me.

Gives me conniptions.

>>2405325
Could with a better pic. At a guess it might be a "scaleless head" (het. scaleless) with a few other genes mixed in which would make a great breeding animal for designer scaleless BPs.

Scaleless BPs lack ventral scales however so imo its unethical to breed them compared to scaleless rattles, Texan rats, emori rats and emori/corn hybrids.

>>2405401

I agree it's stupid. You can do your part by simply not buying in to the designer morph ball python trade. So many other awesome species available that are just as, and I'd say more, suited to being pets.

>>2405412
On the other hand I like to look at it as a domestication process. My only snakes were a trio of Taiwanese Beauties one of which was over 8ft long and they were really difficult to handle. I don't feel like wild animals have make the best pets and honestly if we turn ball pythons or corn snakes or whatever into a bastardised domesticated version as a dog is to a wolf then I think that'd be okay. However, since we're breeding mostly for colour variations rather than temperament I can't see it happening any time soon.

>>2405401
>I like this hobby because of the cool animals, but this is absolutely not about the animals anymore. Quite the opposite actually, the animals are suffering because they are treated like some sort of designer accessoire.
That's the pet trade in general, herps just lagged behind a bit.

sup /herp/

I'm mostly into inverts because I don't have a lot of room but I went to an expo recently and this one dude showed me some absolutely tiny dwarf day geckos. I'm kinda interested in getting those, or something like them now. I don't know the exact species name though, so doing research is kinda hard. Can anyone here tell me what those (probably) were?

Or do you have any other suggestions for something that would do well in a 16x16x28 inch (or smaller) terrarium?

Would they be suited as a first reptile for someone that knows how to maintain temperatures, humidity, and so on?

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>>2405425
Some Lygodactylus species? If you've got experience with parameter management and can supply them with small enough food I don't see why not. Though for a first day gecko In that tank I'd personally would recommend a small Phelsuma species like Phelsuma laticauda.

>>2405425
Crested geckos are the easiest reptile by far unless you live in a hot country or can't access commercial "crested gecko diet" since they need neither heat, UVB or much livefood. They are nocturnal however so they don't do anything in the day unless you handle them a lot and get them tame.

I'm mostly into inverts too but reptiles are much more personable. My personal favourite day geckos are Peacocks and Gold-Dusts but there are a lot of very similar species and a terrarium that size would fit any day gecko fairly comfortably, a pair of smaller species even if you felt daring. Long-tailed grass lizards (Takydromus), other dwarf geckos (Lygodactylus), anoles, green snakes (Opheodrys) and a whole host of other small tropical, arboreal reptiles would fill the same environmental niche as a day gecko so they're worth looking into as alternatives.

That's assuming the terrarium is 28" tall mostly though it would apply to width too. However, if the terrarium is 28" wide then it would also open up the opportunity to keep larger terrestrial lizards (leopard geckos, basically any skink or small agama etc.) or mouse-eating snakes like a hognose, male cornsnake and so many others. Depends what you want and how much you wanna spend setting it up.

If you're willing to put the effort in to vitamin-dust crickets, maintain humidity, provide UVB and a heatspot, have separate night-time heating, give alternate sugar-based foods etc. then it'd be great for any day gecko.

>>2405444
Probably. Something with yellow spots.

I have plenty of small food, Drosophila, baby roaches and so on.

Also that tank is actually big enough for small Phelsuma? I thought they needed more space. They're beautiful too, guess I'm gonna go inform myself about P. laticauda.

How many would you keep in there?

>>2405456
I have no problem supplying livefood, or UVB. That is basically no extra effort for me. And yes, the tank is 28" tall. About that night time heating though, how warm do they need it at night and how do you do it? I'm used to inverts wanting it colder at night and also not touching heatpads with a 10ft pole. Are they alright for geckos or are they equally hated in the herp community?

>>2405472
Day geckos are very small (except Giants and Standing's) so they'd be totally comfortable in a tank that size.

A heat mat underneath the tank kept on 24/7 is my method for night-time heating. Doesn't get too hot, you'll need a thermostat for the heat lamp however.

P. laticauda is a commendable choice.

>>2405113
I don't have a snake but my mom has threatened (sometimes jokingly, sometimes not) to kick me out if I bring one into the house (she's just really afraid of them)
Plus I doubt friends would mind at all if I did have one.

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>>2405401
I agree we have gone too far

>>2405488
Ok, sounds pretty easy. And I have thermostats and heatlamps just laying around anyway. This might actually be a lot less expensive than I thought.
How expensive are the animals though? I'm in europe, so they're definitely available.

Also could I put a pair or trio in my terrarium or is it too small for that?


>P. laticauda is a commendable choice.
Thanks. There's this one other day gecko that I know of though that I'd also really like. I don't know what it is exactly but I remember that it had some nice blue in addition to red spots. Do you know what that one is, and would it also be suitable for my tank?

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>>2405514
>Do you know what that one is, and would it also be suitable for my tank?
The tokay aka mean asshole? That would need a bigger one.

>>2405523
No, I mean some other day gecko, I know what a tokay is.

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>>2405527
Phelsuma cepediana?

>>2405531
>Phelsuma cepediana
Yes, that's the one. Awesome.

Probably hella expensive though.

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>Get beardies food prepped
>Set it down in the cage for him to enjoy
>He runs over it at mach-5 and takes a huge shit on it
Runs straight through it afterwards sending it flying everywhere

What's the quickest way to kill a bearded dragon?

>>2405527
A tokay is a dickhead green bastard that robs you of all your gear while you're unconscious and then sets up a complicated puzzle you have to solve to get it all back.

>>2405534
Yeah, probably at least 200 bucks for a single one. P. laticauda on the other hand seems to be about 30-50€ usually.

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>>2405536

>>2405539
Yeah, I don't want to drop that kind of money on my first reptile.
P. laticauda it is then, and those are still very pretty imo.

Right then, gonna go do some reading. Any husbandry/care sheets online I should check out?

>>2405541
>that ancient, forced sledgehammer meme

>>2405343
You do realize deformities like that can be caused by improper incubation, not just genetics, right?

>>2405401
Many morphs are healthy, though. Morphs in reptiles are not necessarily like breeds in dogs. Any health issues associated with a morph was not bred into them: it's present on the morph gene. No amount of inbreeding or outcrossing will ever change that. I actually don't know of any health issues in the reptile world that are caused by inbreeding. Though it certainly does happen it's not as widespread of an issue as some anons are making it out to be.

I'm seeing more breeders choosing to responsibly breed their reptiles. Which means they're refusing to breed morphs with health issues (like spider ball pythons, super cinnamons, etc.), and making sure bloodlines stay diverse.

Morphs are not some ethical dilemma like some reptile hipsters want to make it out to be, these are morphs already present in wild populations that show up in captivity because our breeding practices with them. They're not the result of people of breeding animals together over generations, they're the result of heritable traits.

>>2405418
Reptiles don't have the ability to be domesticated like a dog or cat. Breeding for temperament on purpose or not, the more generations into captivity you get with a species, the more docile they become on average.

The way so many species have been hybridized in captivity, much of our pet reptiles ARE similar to a dog or cat genetics-wise. They have such mixed origins they no longer quite genetically match their wild counterparts, though we cannot change their shape or behavior through breeding. Unless a pure line of a species has been maintained in captivity, most of the reptiles in captivity are useless genetically for wild populations, so they're inextricably linked to captivity.

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>>2405600
How can you tell the difference between problems caused by genetics and those caused by incubation?

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>>2405604

>>2405600
You simply can not give a blanket statement like this.

Any sort of selective breeding necessarily restricts the number of available partners and thus genetic diversity. The more selective you get the smaller the available genepool becomes. The less animals a morph has been developed from the more likely it is there will be problems.

>>2405611
Sure it does, but most of the issues you hear of in morphs is due to issues linked to that gene, not because of inbreeding. Inbreeding is not currently a big problem in the reptile community, most breeders are pretty good about genetic diversity in their animals.

If you're worried only worried about deformities and conditions caused by inbreeding, it's not morphs you're worried about. You're just making them a scapegoat. Breeding normals comes with just as much of a chance of inbreeding as morphs do. Breeding them for polymorphic traits, to keep pure localities, etc. also can lead to inbreeding.

Morphs can be outcrossed just as easily as a normal, especially if the morph is codom/incomplete. A genepool is not limited just because there are morphs, and morph genetic pools are not necessarily limited.

Hey /herp/, I'm interested in getting a reptilian buddy to chill with me in my apartment. I currently have 3 aquariums that are all taken care of, but want something that is kind of social with people, doesn't get too crazy big, I'm so far leaning towards a bearded dragon, but I'm not very experienced with herps beyond having kept a trio of green anoles as a kid.

>>2405645
>want something that is kind of social with people

No reptile is that. Beardies, blue tongue skinks, and uromastyx tend to be the most relaxed around people, generally speaking. Even those three will get stressed the fuck out if handled too often though.

>>2405664
>no reptile is that
Have you heard of tegus?

>>2405706
Can't they go on walks too?

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>>2405706
>>2405708
>tegus are solitary animals just like all the other lizards
>"b-but I sawe a youtube video of someone treating it like a dog. obviously that means it likes people!"
could you just down a bottle of bleach or something?

>>2405711
>using the bleach meme in 2017
Talk to a tegu owner and they'll probably agree with me

>>2405708
Yes

>>2405713
>talk to a retard who bought the lizard under the illusion that it's a dog with scales and he'll agree with my illusion
the stupidity is reaching critical levels

Are earth worms objectively the best food for caudates?

>>2405720
No.

>>2405720
maybe

>>2405720
Yes

anyone here breed dubias? whats your setup like?
I just learned the new local herp shop sells dubias
I also learned they won't prekill rats for me anymore, I have to let them know like 48 hours in advance so they can freeze em

>>2405711
Some monitors are surprisingly social
Still not dddomestocable though
I don't think many people understands how absurdly rare a domesticatable animal is

>>2405645
your best bet is a bearded dragon

It would be interesting if people started breeding herps for temperament instead of looks though. They put so much effort into SMASHING and SLAMMING that they could probably make inherently friendly sociable lizards snakes etc.

>>2405817
>inherently friendly sociable lizards snakes etc.
Doubtful.
Friendly domestic animals already have friendly social structure, we just found a way to make them accept us into it.
Reptile brains aren't capable of it to begin with so it's impossible. The best you can do is make them docile, which is something that breeders actually do.

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Can anyone tell what species this is? (Central Florida)

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>>2405980
He came out further

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Is he a barred tiger salamander?

>>2406193
Do you see any bars?

>>2406193
I think thats just a regular tiger salamander

>>2406351
He is a juvenile

>>2406428
well then you're not going to know until hits spots have fully developed

>>2406504
Semirelated, anyone know a good place to buy earthworms