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If animals could compose music (on instruments), would their music sound alien to human ears, or is the "language" of music universal regardless of species?
(I'm not referring to music-like vocalizations such as whalesong or birdsong)
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>>2368791
I doubt they'd be intelligent enough.
Even assuming they are, what makes music music to us is familiar patterns and progressions of chords.
The "language" of music is not 'universal'. Only humans are intelligent enough to recognize and appreciate patterns.
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It would sound terrible to us because it'd be the equivalent of a toddler smashing it's hands on a piano.

I could see some animals having a preference between our music though. Parrots dig heavy metal pretty hard. I also think they could understand some sort of flow. I wonder if they think guitar solos are part of our langauge.
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Well the range of hearing of species would affect how they perceive and respond to music. I imagine animals which can hear higher frequencies might get something extra out of electroacoustic and noise music. Dogs would thus be patricians.
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Music is just about organizing sounds in a certain way, composing only takes some perception and basic knowledge on the rules these sounds follow. If animals had the ability to compose, that'd mean they have such understanding, so it would only be a matter of creativity, which would be their weak spot considering that unlike humans, they don't have a history of culture to inspire them.

>>2368809
Not really. Beethoven composed most of his stuff while being deaf.
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>>2368797
idk man, looking at what happens when you let animals fuck around with paint shows me that they have at least some appreciation of patterns.
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>>2368929
Better than Pollock for damn sure.
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>>2368943
Former art teacher here, I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Most of the paintings seem to have lines radiating from a central point, like an explosion. What could this mean?
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>>2368917
> implying that Beethoven didn't know what his music sounded like
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universal
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>>2368791
elephants like music so i do think that the "language" of music is universal, but like people like me who've never played an instrument, they just dont know what to do with them. and also it probably varies on the intelligence of the animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjsu3SGAdLs
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Animals would have to use instruments they can make and understand however.

It would sound alien to us because they are using human instruments alien to *them*.

If we got ahold of an extraterrestrial musical instrument, we wouldn't know what the fuck to do with it, and if we did, we would still try and make music only we could hear and appreciate.
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>>2369360
>only we can hear
It depends, some people compose with actual math in mind instead of just the sound. If they were inspired by alien architecture, chances are they could make music acceptable to alien sensibilities.
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>>2369360
How come nobody ever designed an instrument for birds?

I think at least some of them would come up with something cool.
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>>2368929
>>2368946
There might be some survivorship bias with chimp paintings. The zookeepers only put the best paintings on display.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Rq9uwF4k8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEdnZDBu65M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLrLlu6KDss
i could watch dog playing piano videos all day. i'd have the best day that day
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>>2369482
Doesn't matter if they are the best, the fact that they exist is enough.
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>>2368791

>If animals could compose music (on instruments), would their music sound alien to human ears

Good morning, /an/ :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3_lRuZYCHg

Regards,
Your loving friends,
/pol/
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>>2369511
>not superior abbo music
https://youtu.be/AjyyoAeHPzU
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