/herp/ - Reptile & Amphibian General

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>you are sleepy
>repeat after me...
>box turtles do not control the universe
>box turtles are cute and simple
>I like box turtles

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>>2368263

I bough a UTH, but didn't read the package well enough, it says for glass tanks only, and i only have plastic tanks. Is there a safe way to use a UTH under a plastic terrarium, perhaps by elevating the tank over the heater maybe a half to a full inch?

>>2368289
what kind of plastic?
Do you have a thermostat?
In all likelihood you're not going to want your uth to go over 110F

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pics I took of box turtles in backyard

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>>2368332

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Like youtube videos/channels? I've lurked for a pretty long while and havent seen too many.

https://www.youtube.com/user/altheblader/

I post how to vids about my Mexican spiny tailed iguana and my dumpy tree frog. I know I'm shilling, but I thought you guys might like something like that(especially with the cringy as hell thumbnails).
Lemme know how you feel. Also what kinda reptile channels do you guys frequent?

>>2368320
Gonna be ordering a thermostat and humidity gauge soon. As for the plastic type, I'm not entirely sure, but a Google search of the brand(Truvu) makes me think they're acrylic. I probably wouldn't be setting it over 80, it's for either a Pacman frog or woodhouses toads

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Started staining wood for my Leo's new tank. Coming out nice so far.

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>>2368248
/herp/ I really need your fucking help on this
Today I found this lump on my froggo, she is a Southern Toad and this thing showed up on one of her sides today, what could it be?

1/3

>>2368371

That's fine. "For glass tanks only" is just ass covering copy by the manufacturer. You can stick a UTH to the bottom of a sterilite tub and run it full blast no problem. A UTH does not get anywhere close to the melting point of plastic and if for some reason it fails and somehow does, you've got bigger problems than the state of the plastic tank.

>>2368367

Your iguana a cute. CUTE.

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>>2368248
>>2368378
2/3

>>2368378

Haven't a clue. Vet?

>>2368378
I know it's not a frog but
https://www.thespruce.com/frog-lumps-1238194
vet time if you ask me

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>>2368248
>>2368382
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
She is a 1 year old or so, eats well, and couldn't have gotten hurt anywhere except maybe the plastic container that has water I guess? She digs on the wet coconut turf and does it around the water container, might have gained a reaction to a very minor abrasion while hiding perhaps?

>>2368383
Don't know any exotic vet around here, but haven't looked hard either, I check on her regularly and only noticed the lump late tonight.

>>2368384
looking into that rn thank you

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>>2368380
No u

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>>2368385
Well whatever you do don't mess with it before you go to a vet. I've looked around a bit more online, and I don't think you should try treating it yourself but you definetly shouldnt ignore it either.
Good luck

>>2368384
toads are just a type of frog

>>2368389
thank you
cute froggo anon

>>2368389
>>2368383
>>2368384
Could it just be developing her oval glands because of the summer heat or some shit? there was some white stuff in the water but I thought she probably just shat in the water. When you google southern toad most of them have similar if not identical structures there.

Do toads even "develop" oval / paratoid glands in the summer or as a sexually maturing thing?

What would be the best heating/lighting for a pacman frog? I've heard some bulb types can dry the soil too much. I also need it to cover light for the plants inside.

>>2368380
Thanks for the info. I wonder who would like the UTH more, the pacman frog or woodhouses toads...

>>2368526
Regular incandescent bulb is fine. Select appropriate wattage for amout of heat desired. If humidity goes too low, put some aluminum foil over a portion of screen top to reduce airflow. No heat required during night hours if your room is in the mid 70's.

I'm constantly reading about how leopard geckos can overdose on d3... How does one tell? What are the symptoms?

>>2368757
It might get lower. Probably not this time of year, but later in the winter the house gets cold at night, and my room doesn't have heating. Maybe a space heater overnight to keep the temp up?

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Is there a better omnivore herp out there?

Omnivore herp recommendation pls. I'm planning on buying a tegu just due to their diet and behavior.

>>2368940

Ceramic heat emitter controlled by thermostat is the easiest for 24/7 heat without any light.

>>2368971

They're awesome if you're up for the workload and have the space.

>>2368971
So long as youve meticulously planned its full enclosure, diet, and nutrition
go for it

otherwise a blue tongue skink is similar but much smaller and easier to care for

>>2368971
They are now considered invasive in Florida. The decision to own a pet of such enormous responsibility is not something you do on a whim.

>>2368367
I think it's okay if you don't spam it and it's reptile related, I subbed.

I don't have many to watch, just Barcyzk and Viper Keeper.

If anyone has any suggestions for decent channels I'd love to hear them!

>>2369110
I like afroherpkeeper. He's knowledgeable and pretty chill.

>>2369098
I heard you can basically potty train them. If so then they'd make good free roam indoor pets.

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Can anyone tell me how the "White Fluorescent Fixture" option works? For a 4ft cage will it be one small one in the middle or 2 small ones on each end?

>>2369176
again, only if you put massive amounts of time and attention into it

maybe even moreso than a dog

>>2369204
Of course, that's a given.

Are there any tutorials around for diy lighting, like making a screen/plywood top with a weather proof socket mounted in it? Would something like that even be better/more affordable than a commercial light?

>>2369194
I dunno what store you're ordering from. Contact the seller and ask.

>>2369241
You mean mounting a fixture inside the tank? I would only do that for arid climate herps. Anything that needs misting it's better to have your fixture above the screen. Anyway, you can buy ceramic sockets if you want to wire something up. I don't know any tutorials.

>>2369194
>>2369261
Sorry, Animal Plastics

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Hey guys, just got my first snek (he's a Kenyan sand boa, yet to be named).

I'm not quite sure what I'm doing, so I'll attach a picture of my setup. Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong! I know I need to keep the tank's hotspot at around 90-95°F, but since it was just put together, it needs time to warm up. There's an additional heating pad on the bottom, below the light.

One thing I'm worried about is that the boa isn't burrowing.

>>2369218
not for 90% of the idiots on this board. we can't afford to be not harsh

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>>2369670
Oh, there he goes

I should mention that I'm aware the tank is a little large right now, and that's why I have a rock thing fixed to the bottom on the right side of the tank (to make it appear smaller)

>>2369670

Looks good. Sand boas don't need much in the way of decor and are not as fussy about tank size as they can of course just burrow in to the substrate to hide.

You'll want to move that thermometer/hygrometer lower on the glass to be about the same level as the top of the substrate. That's the temperature that matters as snek will be spending all his time at that elevation.

hi /an/, how big of a tank do i need for a bearded dragon?

>>2369933
also can i buy one size and have a dragon in their from being a baby to adult size? or do i need to adjust the size of the tank accordingly?

>>2369933
>>2369935
40 long+
you can have it in as a baby but will need to fill it with lots of decor to make it feel safer since large open spaces will make it feel exposed and unsafe

>>2369933bigger is always better, but a 4x2x2 will work its whole life, the only problems with a tiny dragon in a big place are finding and catching food, finding its water, basking spot (which its not like it will never find it) and giving it a lot of hide spaces

>>2370099
Yep, and if it does become necessary to decrease the tank size it's easy enough to just block off a section of the tank to make the dragon's area smaller. No need to go through multiple individual tanks as it grows.

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om nom nom
first feeding: success

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>>2370258
what a happy guy

>>2370258
>>2370264
cute

>>2368248
From the thumbnail I thought it was a turtle with dreads and a helmet. I'm disapointed.

>kiss my frog
>get giardia
This is not what the fairy tales told me was going to happen

>>2370368
Well at least it not our monthly 'gais tell me what kind of toad i need to lick to get high pls' post.

>>2370601
>tfw want Sonoran desert toad
>everyone thinks i want it for drugs
>tfw i only want it cuz cane toads are illegal in california

>>2370688
I want to get Bufo japonicus
for maximum aesthetic

What size pvc tank would you reccomend for a male ball python?
Both fit in 20 gallons comfortably, but when they get full grown I want them in something that will look nice, and can stack

hey guys, new snek owner here
i was able to feed my snek breakfast fairly easily, but he's not eating dinner today for some reason. he ate breakfast and dinner the past two days, so i'm concerned about this behavior. how can i stimulate his appetite?

>>2370907
what do you gain from (You) fishing on one of the slowest boards. take it and fuck off

>>2370907
Kiss it that usually makes my snake hungry

>>2370895
can't go wrong with 4x2x2
I think sizes are going to depend on who you're ordering from

>>2370895
3x2 is sufficient for a male. 4x2 is kinda overkill for a BP unless it's an exceptionally large female.

Can you guys settle an argument for me?
Google gives mixed responses because people are stupid.
Snakes, especially pythons and boas, shouldn't be fed weekly right? That's too often for them yes?

>>2371327
I was told to feed my 9-month old sand boa every Monday by the breeder I bought him from. As they get older though, they should eat less often.

>>2371327

With boas the usual is more like 12-14 days between feedings. Pythons vary by species, the smaller ones eat more often, larger ones also do fine on a 12-14 day feeding schedule. With baby ball pythons I prefer to do a slightly smaller than suggested size rodent for the snake on a 7 day schedule. Once they get over a year move to regular sized rodent on a 10 day schedule.

You are correct that a once every 7 days feeding schedule is excessive for some species of snake.

>>2371392
*by 'boas' i am referring to constrictors. Rosy boas and sand boas of course can be fed on a weekly schedule just fine.

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lil gecko beards

>>2371365
>>2371392
Thankyou anons
What about colubrids?

>>2371433
Colubrids seem to have faster metabolisms so once a week is fine. Push it out to ten days and maybe decrease rodent size if snake is becoming obese.

>>2371450
I bought some hornworms to feed my beardie as a treat
but some of them are huge, can he still eat them?
He's probably about 18 inches long. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 5-6 months old

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>>2371064
Not really, they do move around a lot. And considering a large female can exceed 4 feet, it's definitely not over kill. They will also act semi arboreal, if they have a decent set up that allows it.
Just because Jews cram them into tiny tubs for the purpose of mass breeding them, doesn't mean they are happiest that way

Anyways, I just picked up this little guy from (((petsmart))). I hate that place but he/she is so pretty I couldn't resist
It gets stressed from handling easy and he is feisty and flighty so I could only snap a quick blurry pic

>>2371755
By the way, I have a 3.5 foot female in a 3 foot long, 2 feet high, 1.5 foot wide exo terra, and it's still a bit too small. I need to upgrade. She constantly asks to be let out and she loves to climb in her cage

>>2371600

You can chop them in half if necessary. Beardie don't care.

>>2371758
By the way, I can't tell you how many times I've seen a herp which according to virtually all common care sheets and common forum idiots doesn't need that much space, utilize the shit out of the larger space it was provided and get greatly beneficial exercise.
Some herps genuinely do benefit from smaller confines, though. I think baby crested geckos benefit from smaller spaces within reason.

How do you guys discipline your reptiles/amphibians? Mostly asking -about correcting bad behavior and enforcing rules. I've been giving my boa 2min in the freezer when he bites and it seems to be working after a few weeks for so.

>>2371826
0/10

I'm having great difficulty creating a nice gradient in my snake's enclosure. I can get the hotspot to about 95°F but the coldspot is 72°F (it should be closer to 80°F). Do I buy a second, weaker light? I'm afraid to do that since the water is on the cold side, and I don't want to increase the humidity too much.

>>2371925
I doubt a lower wattage light would increase your humidity THAT much
but thats probably your best bet, since a UTH would require a thermostat

>>2371925
cover some part of top lid to retain heat within those area

>lady comes into store today with a cardboard box
>asks for help
>in the box is the tiniest RES I've ever seen
>says her neighbor has a pond full of them and she found this on in her house
>can't tell her to kill it because they're invasive
>tell her she should probably put it by the pond and leave it on its own
>she might decide to keep it

I kinda hope she does decide to keep it, it'll at least keep it from getting bigger and making more turtles
unless of course she takes care of it and decides its too big and then lets it go

>http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Red-Eared-Slider-Care-Sheet/
I have a single slider. Keeping it that way since its partner died. Any suggestions on a reasonable tank set up?

>>2372728
A kiddy pool that's like 4' long, 4' wide would be the ideal minimum size. A trough could also work good.
And a large rubbermaid could work well for a juvenile, subadult or as a temporary enclosure for an adult
If your turtle isn't tiny and the set up you have is smaller than a 18'' by 36 inch storage bin, then at least pick the turtle up the plastic bin, because they are super cheap anyways and the turtle doesn't care that's it's cheap

>>2372759
Just make sure the trough can't rust.
This is a good one because it's is galvanized steel.. And it is a respectably sized set up for an adult or two
https://www.amazon.com/Behlen-Country-Galvanized-Approximately-123/dp/B008MLK3LU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1493887800&sr=8-3&keywords=trough

>>2372764
It's 6'x2'x'2 which should be pretty perfect IMO and it's only like 140 dollars with free shipping
I want to get some of these for my herps, my cane toads would love this

>>2371327
Depends. As adults, no, I would not feed a single boa or python I could think of more often than every 2-3 weeks. As a baby? Yeah, weekly is fine for most. I feed my baby boas every 7-14 days depending on species, though. My adult boas are fed every 3-8 weeks depending on species and prey item.

>>2371393
If you're referring to boa constrictors, as in the species, then this is how I feed my boas:

Birth-1 year: 10-14 days
1 year: no more than 14 days
2 years: every 3 weeks
3+ years: every 4-6 weeks, up to 8 weeks if I'm feeding a larger rabbit

I'd probably feed even rosies and sand boas every 14+ days as adults, though.

>>2371433
I feed my garters every 2 weeks as well. It just really depends on the species, colubrids are a very very large group of snakes.

Are female red eared sliders guaranteed to grow massive? I only ask because I have a 12 year old female who after hitting about 8 inches about 3-4 years ago, pretty much stopped growing. I've only heard average sizes for males can max out anywhere between 6-9 inches, but there never seems to be an average for females stating they only grow to 12 inches. I mainly worry if she has stunted growth or if she's just smol for a female.

>>2372879
Probably just a small individual.

>>2372879
animals can get dwarfed because of too small vivarium

>>2370844
Thats in the size range i like, and very pretty. Can't believe i haven't seen it before.

I could never own an animal that couldn't feel affection for me. I own a pet rat and I can tell there's affection there. Dogs too, and cats as well. Even birds, I think. But reptiles just lack that and it's something I wouldn't consider owning.

Can someone give me a /herp/ side of the story so I can see it from another point of view?

>>2373052
>rats
>affection towards humans
the delusion is already there

>>2373052
Them getting excited for food when I walk by the tank fulfills that need for affection/attention. If I ever get really lonely I just go hang out with friends.

>>2373052
>needing to own an animal only because it gives affection
But why?

>>2373052

Similar to owning fish, watching them and their behavior is fascinating. Because reptiles aren't in anyway domesticated, they can exhibit behaviors most domestic pets don't exhibit mostly due to retaining some of their wild behaviors. Of course, they can get used to their owners to the point of getting excited to be fed or can be handled to certain degrees. They have their own behavioral quirks that people just find charming.

Plus there's other reasons people would want them such as being generally allergy resistant, very low maintenance without worrying the pet will go insane without constant interaction, and most having a longer life span than most pets (a good amount of herps can easily live +20) Plus depending on some species, they can be a lot lower cost in the long run after the initial set up fees, which given the longevity is a good thing

>>2373081
Plus if you like dinosaurs, then reptiles are very appealing for having fairly prehistoric and exotic looks to them

>>2373081
You could argue that domestic animals still show most of their natural wild behaviors.

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What are the odds of finding an all white ball python for a maximum of $400? Especially a female one. No specks, splotches or pink.
I can't keep up with morph names aside from looking for luecistics and at their prices I might as well breed them.
Already waiting on luecistics ratsnakes.

Going to my first reptile expo in Manchester in June too. Should I wait and see if I can find one there or do they mark up the prices for the expo?

>>2373052
>I could never own an animal that couldn't feel affection for me.
see, I don't have that problem because I'm not retarded

>>2372947
Myth.

>>2373113
Expos are usually cheaper than regular price.

>>2373113
Good luck anon, post pictures of your new straw rapper when you get one

>>2373113
>do they mark up the prices for the expo?
the opposite

>>2373052
Some herps benefit from handling. For example I hand feed my baby crested geckos because it keeps them nice and fat (in a healthy way, I mean just not thin, I've always been told my animals look healthy) and makes them grow faster and bigger, because they tend to eat more that way
If anyone has any argument against that, please let me know. But it seems to work good for me
But needing an animal for your insecurities is pathetic
I feel bad for those animals. It must suck being around the shitty energy of someone that uses you as some kind of coping mechanism
Appreciate the animal for it's beauty, not from what energy you can get from it, you parasite.
I communicate with my herps on a spiritual level, we are friends in a sense that have learned to understand each other. But I appreciate them for their natural beauty and observing their natural behaviour. I don't want to make them submit to me like a degenerated wolf (no offence doggo lovers)

Reptiles have been known to be social, some reptiles care for their young or bond with their mate, young or social groups for life. Reptiles can also definitely see their owner as a completely positive influence which is an honour and very rewarding
I don't like people like you though, in fact you disgust me. Maybe that's the autist in me. But I was always never affectionate

>>2373244
Don't get me wrong, some dogs are master race tier and bad ass

>>2373244
And I don't force feed any animals. I've just found that baby Cresteds are just inclined to eat more when the food is right in front of their face. I don't do anything to make them eat more than they want in any way. They are usually very enthusiastic to be hand fed

>>2373250
I think the reason baby crested sometimes don't eat enough is that they super skittish and so easily stressed, so they need help to get used to and get used to eating and drinking comfortably

>>2373252
*used to you and get used to eating and drinking comfortably
Depends on the geckos personality though, some just tend to get skinnier than others without a little encouragement. Some are more voracious

>>2373113
>What are the odds of finding an all white ball python for a maximum of $400? Especially a female one. No specks, splotches or pink.
Extremely low because females in general cost more than males and showcase quality animals fetch an even higher price
>I can't keep up with morph names aside from looking for luecistics and at their prices I might as well breed them.
Already waiting on luecistics ratsnakes.
Fire balls are cheap compared to leucistics so you have a point but I would recommend against it
>Going to my first reptile expo in Manchester in June too. Should I wait and see if I can find one there or do they mark up the prices for the expo?

Expo prices are generally a good bit cheaper since everyone is competing for sales, especially the balls since almost every table will have them

Alright lads, what is the best RHACS?

Crestie, Gargoyle, Leachie? Also are Tokays considered RHACS?

>>2373295
Leachies are the perfect potato boys

>>2373244
yeah here are some good reads
http://www.animalcognition.org/category/reptiles/
I didn't know rattlesnakes were social animals

>>2373295

Personality/behaviour wise I like chahoua geckos the best. Tokays are not related to the New Caledonia geckos.

>>2373295
Tokays aren't rhacs, newfag. Tokay's are probably the most bad ass but crested are just easy to manage and care for. and really fun to breed because they're easy and there's so many colours.
ever kept the others
Leachies seem pretty bad ass, apparently they hunt smaller lizards in the wild. I'd love to have one and feed him some anoles and house geckos

>>2373295
I like leachies based on size, but I hear they can get real nasty in their old age
I've heard chewies are pretty docile the whole way through. Halmaheras too

Been thinking about getting a snake or something similar.
I am a law student and would like a pet or something to stare at/hang out with when I get back to my room after 18 hours of study and am contemplating suicide. Lots of people in my class have dogs for a similar purpose, but i'm not confident in my ability to take care of something that's sensitive to and/or require lots of love and affection, which from what i've read, snakes and other reptiles are generally not super bothered by.
However, I would like to handle it frequently, on the topic of which I've heard varying and contradictory opinions, so some more information would be nice.
I've done a bit of reading and the grosser parts of taking care of a snake (smell, feeding mice) aren't the kind of things that bother me, but I wanted to ask some more sensible parties if i'm interested for the right/wrong reasons.

>>2373474
Ball pythons are some of the hardiest snakes and not usually bothered by being taken out of the cage, they are usually happy to get out of the cage and stretch out. It's pretty easy to just chill with them in the bed, or on a couch. Boas constrictors as well. I mean, you shouldn't be man handling them all the time, but you can take them out and just hang out with them for a while.
Some species of snakes are very stressed by handling, and some individuals from any species can be as well

>>2373474
popular snakes are popular for a reason
usually simple care, and they're often very hardy and take to handling better than most

that being said you shouldnt take them out every day maybe every other day at most, give them some time to themselves

but yes you're better of with a snake or lizard than some animal that actually requires your undivided attention especially since you spend so much time somewhere else

a nice fish tank is also pretty theraputic so maybe consider that as well

>>2373479
Ball pythons and boa constrictors are also a slow moving snake, which might be more boring for some, but if you want a more ''pet'' kind of snake, it's actually a good thing. they are easily manageable when taken out of the cage. You can even take them to a grassy field or something or out in the back yard and they can't easily ''run off''
I don't know how often you plan on handling it though.
Ball pythons especially are able to relax easily while wrapped around your body for warmth.
I wouldn't handle them out for more than 3 hours a week. A hardy snake like a BP or Boa won't die if it's otherwise healthy if handle more than that though
I've taken my snakes out for long walks in the forest and in nature, while it's wrapped around my body for like up to six hours. They could bask in the sun and explore themselves a little in some sage areas and they enjoyed it. But that is something I've only done very rarely
You'll probably feel less of a need to handle it so often once you've had it for a long time.
You'll have to use some of your own judgement and see how it affects the snake

>>2373481
I'm talking about boa constrictors such as red tailed boas though, not all boas

>>2373481
And even 3 hours a week is quite a lot. If you do that, give it a few weeks off sometimes. I doubt you would handle it that much it's entire life though. If it's a juvie or sub-adult, don't handle it so much though
Just handle it enough that it isn't aggressive with you

>>2373481
And as far for the long six hour walks, I've only done it for that long maybe like 3 times in my females 6 year life

>>2373474
>>2373480
I'd second on the fish tank as well. You can't handle them at all but honestly staring at an aquarium watching the fish do their things is very relaxing. They're always active and moving too, making them ideal to stare at. I'd also say a small species of turtle or an amphibian too as they're similar but a herp instead.

Otherwise if you want to go with a lizard route, a bearded dragon or a blue tongue skink are options, they're chill enough to take handling too (but like all reptiles, don't do it too much. they don't like it, they just tolerate it. snakes included)

>>2371755
Cute crestie, post terrarium

>>2373383
I get the feeling you only like herps to watch them kill things you psychopath

For a ball python, is it better to have a uth or a lamp? Or is it better to have both?

>>2373836
Probably both
T. who doesn't own a ball

my leopard gecko has not been eating almost for 3 months
she has heating mats and heating bulb, another female eats, they are both in same terrarium
should i open her jaw and put cricket there or a mealworm forcibly? i tried crushing food and giving her via tweezers

>>2373840
Thanks. Wasn't sure if I was going overkill

>>2373841
Probably having both of them in the same place is making her feeling insecure and the other female is trying to starve her to death. Have you seen significant weight loss? You should go to the vet

>>2373844
i put them in a separate box with crickets
i do not put crickets into terrarium because crickets might harm geckos if left for longer inside
also they have a little bowl with mealworms and no geckos eats from it, so they are not competing imo. she lost few grams so far

>>2373836
either or both is fine if you're trying to keep your temps right
just make sure to keep an eye on your humidity

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CUTE

>>2373782
It's no different than watching a lion kill a gazelle. I enjoy observing na animals true primal nature. allowing a reptile or amphibian to hone it's natural hunting instincts which for many reptiles and amphibians can be HIGHLY beneficial.
For example, with African bullfrogs, I've found that the more varied diet of prey they are able to practice hunting the more skilled hunter and voracious eater they grow up to be and become.
I also enjoy knowing that my reptile gets a varied diet.
I feed snaked frozen/thawed mice and rats though, just to reduce risk of the snake getting bit.Thats the only reason, otherwise I would rather the snake hone it's natural hunting instincts.
All I have to say is that I love to replicate and observe a natural diet and behaviour some cuck starts bitching?
What a stupid faggot

>>2373982
With african bullfrogs, I've noticed a drastic difference from the more varied diet that they learn to hunt at a young age, but i'v noticed differences in almost all herps

>>2373982
ANd besides, what else am I suppose to enjoy a lizard for other than observing it's natural instincts?

>>2373841
take gecko to vet

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>>2373985
My African Bullfrog is blind in one eye, probably due to damage to the egg before he hatched, and his depth perception is so awful that he can't hunt. I have to usually lay his food on his nose or make it move next to his good eye. It's pretty funny setting a bunch of dubias loose and watching him go nuts, though. He never catches any.

Pic related, it's him. The smaller eye is the blind one

>>2373841
Make sure your temperature and humidity are perfect for the proper amount of hours for day and night, and separate them until you get it start to eating. Provide hide spaces on the hot side and cool side of the tank and don't handle this gecko to insure as little stress as possible

>>2373848
Get dubia roaches and leave a few of them in the terrarium

>>2374009
Not a lot of people know this, but pixies need enough room to swim for exercise, so they actually need quite large enclosures. Even the adults need their exercise for swimming and to hop around when they feel like it

>>2374009
Very nice pyxie. He looks good except for the eye

>>2374091
If given the space, an adult would completely utilize a half and half 6'x2' enclosure. I would go any smaller than a 2'x4' for a large male pyxie
Sub-Adults do well in 1.5'x3 feet or 40 gallon breeders

>>2374091
It's not something a lot of forum idiots with their idiotic ''pixies never move lol meme'' like to hear or believe, unfortunately. The internet is plagued with excuses for less than adequately sized set ups for herps

>>2374106
But if anyone doesn't believe me, get a baby pyxie. give it lots of swimming room, and see if it ever loses interest in swimming.
Sure, pixies will sleep a lot, maybe even more than half their lives, and sometimes they will stay half buried in the same spot for weeks on end but when they feel like being active they can be for sure

>>2374111
The babies swim A LOT

Are turkistan roaches good feeders?
They've apparently invaded their way to my property, and I figure I could start breeding them to use as feeders

also assuming I do, how long should I give them before I can be confident they're removed of any potential parasites or chemicals?

>>2374135

Sure those would work fine as feeders. It's kinda hard to give an answer on the second question. Absolute safe side would be to breed them and only feed off the second generation.

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Well, my pacman frog has passed away. It was only two months old. I suspect it may have had red leg before I acquired it. From the moment I got it, it wouldn't eat unless I was force feeding it, and it seemed very lethargic.

Feeling pretty down.

>>2374338
Sorry anon. Very likely frog had a preexisting condition when you got it.

>>2374338
F

>>2373295
>Also are Tokays considered RHACS?
No. They're gekko's

>>2374088
ok thx for advice

>>2373982
>>2373990
yea not that anon but youre a total faggot
theres nothing natural about 2 animals in a foreign environment being tossed together for the sick jollies of some nigger
not hurting your pet is only 1 reason to feed f/t
the other half being because its fucking sick to cause uneeded pain to any animal, food or no
You can feed a varied diet but that has nothing to do with live feeding

You get an animal because you think they are interesting/cool not because you want to use them as a torture device

>>2374883
A healthy reptile in a good set up will retain many of it's natural instincts. Like I said, it's beneficial to the pet to let it train it's hunting abilities, and frankly I agree. It gets exercise and psychological stimulus. Reptiles and amphibians that are fed only pre-killed become conditioned to be lazy eaters that are used to tong feeding or being spoiled. This attitude can also lead to the animal being very picky. Live food often just causes them to be more voracious in general, that means they are likely to eat more and are healthier

You're a fucking faggot, stop shit posting.
I teach all my herps to hunt as and to be hand fed, so they are as unpicky and voracious as possible
I can tell already you are less experienced and I am probably a way better pet owner than you

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Went to a local reptile expo today and recorded it.

https://youtu.be/d8m0YFbuAm4

>>2375015
You may not like it, but this makes sense as herps are creatures of habit. He's probably right

>>2375021
Yes. I bet that faggot also buys (((fast food))) and other meat from animal torture corporations , or supports some other shitty companies that destroy nature and thus kill animals
I don't.
But if for whatever reason he's one of the extremely rare people who doesn't, he's still a hippy faggot that isn't experienced as is overly emotional and irrational like a retarded bitch on her period

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What snake do you think is going to do ViperKeeper in?

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>>2375067
it has to be his cobras

Also gaboons are fucking adorable. His looks like it can be petted too. I want gaboons to be ball python tier tamed so i can have a phat viper lapsnek.

So, I got a beardie because I hear they are easy to care for and were hardy among "domestic" reptiles. So far so good, in the past three or so years, he has been healthy. However, I am concerned with how lazy he is. He spends most of his day basking until he wants to eat. (I give him kale, fruits and freeze dried insects.) When I take him out of the cage he doesn't want to run around. He wants to sit in my lap and sleep there.

Is he bored or something? I don't really know how to entertain him. I play video games a lot he watches sometimes, but I dont think its much more then "ohh flashing colors." I'm at witts end. He HATES going outside. The birds and cars scare him. Even away from the cars he puffs up if he hears them. He's very very friendly and only ever bitten my Grandma. (She was hand feeding him apples and he missed) is there a toy or something I can get him?

>>2375100
Pretty much, whenever you have any health concerns for a herp, you should tell us about the cage temperatures and humidity level
I'm thinking maybe the cage isn't hot enough, making him lack energy and feel the need to be in the hottest spot

>>2375100
Cage size?

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>>2375103
Temp goes down to around 72. degrees at night. Unless it's winter and I can get it lower. Typically the temp is around 90-95. Humidity is at 60, I need a new spray bottle for morning but it's difficult to get one when I can't drive.

>>2375107
Don't know the size in gallons, but its about 4 feet long, 2 and half feet wide. He's fully grown, a bit small for an adult though. Looking to get an upgrade but finding a place for anything bigger will be rough.

>>2375067
Probably a green or black mamba. He has so many close calls with those when he has to transfer them between tanks.

Stupid question.

My boyfriend has a leapord gecko almost 2 years old by now and he hasn't had food in what I assume is almost 2 weeks. Should I go buy the poor things some mealworms or something? The poor thing looks so sad.
He says they can go a long time without good but in not too familiar with this animal.

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>>2375148
>>2375154
>>2375158
you okay there pal?

>>2375124
if he owns a black mamba I'd put my money there
those fuckers are fast and mean

>>2375166
He has a point though, anyone who takes on a role of providing for a life, then carelessly fucks up animal care will clearly never be responsible enough to be a father which really in the end makes this woman out to be dating a loser

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>>2375205
>pretending to be someone else in order to make it look like people agree with your spergout

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>>2375207
You aren't /an/ material summercuck

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>>2375210
>inspect element
>throws in another insult like the sperglord he is
sorry bud, but maybe try not making your writing style so easily identifiable.

>>2375207
Get a load of this cucked white knight faggot

>>2375207
I agree he sperged out in a
>HEY HEY I TAKE CARE OF MY PETS PICK ME PICK ME *oh she wouldn't date me due to other factors well hmm*... DIE WHORE YOURE JUST AS BAD FOR NOT FUCKING ME"

Kind of way, but I won't deny her post sent me bad vibes to see someone with a partner who's clearly careless and irresponsible after taking on role of providing for another life. Red flag for future endeavors. Been there done that. It's an unpleasant trait to have

>>2375214
I just believe people who don't take care of animals and help animals in an intelligent manner when they have the opportunity belong in a concentration camp.
Anyone who respects animals, hate people like this whore.
Fuck off with your unoriginal needle dick feminist rhetoric, faggot

>>2375217
She's given no indication to her life style aside from dating a guy who's careless. She did not say she smokes drugs or has multiple partners or any other tangible bit of extremely haram, except I guess a single boyfriend. Mohammed pls go

>>2375222
She was stupid enough to ask a retarded question on this dead bored when common she could have figured out the answer in a few minuets from common sense and by reading articles and searching forums
Then she would have got off her ass and helped this lizard by now.
That's why she is a fucking idiot

>>2375224
Agreed but I am merely pointing out that she should take this bad care of his, as a sign to maybe rethink who she's with. Like imagine if they had kids will she be the only one raising it if this guy can't take care of a fucking lizard? I could care less if she's a whore or not, I'm thinking of the lizard the kids and whatever other things her partner will dump on her cause he can't be assed once he takes them on.

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I'm starting to believe this guy suffers from schizophrenia. He's pumping out a post every time the cooldown's off, replying to himself. That's pretty fucking sad desu.

>>2375226
Next time don't bring in feminist rhetoric
Old /an/ was militant, we are animal care elitists
Anything less is cancer
No point in creating semantic straw mans about the word ''whore'' either.

>>2375229
>replying to yourself to continue a thought is schizophrenia
Fuck off with your veiled white knighting, cancer

>>2375229
You should grab a name and take a seat over there, that way we don't confuse ourselves in this engaging fire posting

Here's mine

>>2375230
Who made you lord commander of an anonymous board

>>2375232
People are trolling you because you come across as pissed off. Ignore them and chill out. Fuck stupid people who don't take good care of their animals, if people don't already know that, it just means they're hopeless,

>>2375234
Because you're a worthless newfag, and you don't belong any where on 4chan if you're going to white knight for a braindead moron

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>>2375230
>>2375238
>n-normies get out newfags get out ree we wuz oldfags and shiet
this is funnier than it should be

I've heard a lot of tips about caring for a venomous snake as a beginner and decided it wasn't a good idea to start off with one. To narrow down my options further, I want to know if it's also a bad idea to have much larger/stronger snakes that can strangle you? I know that sounds obvious but I mean is it likely to strangle me accidentally or even deliberately try to kill me? Any other tips/information about caring for those kinds of snakes would be appreciated.

>>2373982
because if you actually cared about herps you wouldn't be excited to watch small lizards die

>>2375028
>>2373982
found the trump supporter

>>2375166
no he's one of those people obsessed with the word cuck. of course he's not ok

>>2375224
again, that has nothing to do with being a whore

>>2375230
what did any of this have to do with feminism? is it feminism to not tell a women she should die just for asking a question?

>>2375238
nobody is white-knighting for the girl. we're allowed to think you're both stupid

>>2375270
4chan might as well be reddit with you people.

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>>2375270
LOL

>>2375395
>someone on the internet told a troll posing as a female to kys
>d-don't insult my lady
This is cringe worthy as hell, you're worse than the raging autist who took the bait for white knighting a fucking troll. My fucking god man

Enough derailing, if you're going to banter, at least make it herp related. Personal attacks and politics being discussed in a thread like this is just annoying for those who come here to read something interesting or important

>>2375431
don't worry, you'll grow up one day. i'll be praying for you

>>2375461
no I said you should call her a relevant insult. you can call her retarded, but you don't have enough information about her for the insult "whore" to carry any meaning.

My friends red tailed boa died last night at the age of 24
F

>>2375028
Pot, meet kettle

>Buys fast food=Hippy
Wot?

>Overly emotional and irrational
So, like you right now?

>>2375015
>>2375028
man did I strike a nerve or what because you got defensive as shit

Theres literally nothing wrong with having having spoiled pets

Its easy as fuck to stimulate animals without having them needlessly kill another. Or do you think its normal for catfags to let their cats kill birds and small lizards to? I understand they are completely 2 different types of animals but the core situation is more or less the same

Who gives a shit? Stop being pussies about lizards, all of you. It's just a fucking small animal that isn't even sentient. I feed them to my cat for fun. Who cares about lizards?
>>2375509
>Reddit spacing

>>2375509
I agree with this. My snake is completely vegan, and I feed my lizard only dead crickets.

>>2375512
yup I was right about you being a psychopath

>>2375184
Viperkeeper has both green and black mambas. One of his green ones, named Kermit, is very friendly and calm. The other one is not.

>>2375522
I'm from louisiana and we beat faggots like you who have no respect for animals

also holy fuck anon you are just as bad as sjw's except everything you like is leddit rumblr or libtards instead of hitler

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>>2375529
im done replying to you

>>2375273
The general metric is that a single person can comfortably handle/control a snake approximately equal in length to their height. It's not so much a strangulation risk as it is just losing control and now having a runaway snek in your house.

For venomous snakes it is adviseable to have a mentor. Meet up with someone who is experienced and volunteer your time to help them with maintenance. Learn the ropes along the way.

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>>2375184
Yeah, I can see that. Here's fun time his own black mamba.

>>2375530
>huur durr he's smarter than me better call it bait

>>2375530
>he thinks he can use that meme when he already made himself look like an easily baited retard
Nice try

>>2375522
you /pol/tards really are pathetic. how can you be proud of killing something small and defenseless (against humans that is)

>>2375535
why is viperkeeper such a tard?

Fuck off, I was just trolling but she was an idiot for asking a stupid question. Now stop white knighting and ruining a good thread, you guys are insufferable

>>2375522
>Real Nazis
>have the strictest animal rights laws on the planet
>nu-nazis
>shoot lizards with bb guns "for fun" looool

Nothing more than modern hippies

>>2375674
Stop taking obvious bait

>>2375674
funny how I got you shilling for national socialism with my other thread and baited you with a bait post all in your same post

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>>2375680
>>2375678
>I wasn't actually retarded, I was just faking it for the short con lol brainlet

>>2375680
>heh I got you to agree with something you already agreed with
lol

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Getting back to the herp discussion, how are african clawed frogs? I hear they are pretty bro-tier

>>2375644
>merely pretending

>>2375861
Pretty boring.
Its more like keeping a fish than a frog

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>>2375861
Owned an albino one, its fun to watch eat, but like the other anon said it's more of a fish in practical terms than a frog. Mine's legs stopped working and it just died, I honestly never figured out how. She wasnt even old or anything.

>>2375680
>shilling for natsoc
Anon only spoke the truth, cunt

Hi, question about tortoise/turtle habitats. In about a month I'll be getting a tortoise and was gonna get a 20 gallon tank for it. The question is could I put in a turtle with it, and split the habitat for them? They're both still pretty small. I'd say about 3 inches in length, and when they'd get too big I'd get individual tanks. The turtle is my niece's and she kinda just doesn't take care of it so I figured I'd take it.

>>2375942

At that size they need a 20g each. Both require a lot of space and the care requirements are different. What kind of turtle and what kind of tortoise?

>>2375955
The turtle I'm not sure of. The tortoise however is a sulcata tortoise.

>>2375957
>sulcata tortoise

...

Now see here, anon. You do realize how large sulcata tortoises get, right?

>>2375942
Unless it's a species of turtle that only prefers shallow water, no recommended. The tortoise would end up drowning itself as most other turtles are aquatic and need deeper water. And for a 20g, that's only enough space for only one of them. Overall both would have completely different and conflicting care requirements.
You can simply just use like a large storage bin for either or if you don't want to waste too much on seperate (temporary) enclosure

>>2375957
It's very important you identify the species of turtle. A red eared slider has markedly different care requirements than, say, a box turtle.

>>2375154
Im also a guy so from one faggot to another you should just get some dick and calm down.
It'd be nice if the poor thing didn't suffer and maybe it should be taken care of by somebody more responsible but would you honestly dump somebody over a lizard? Maybe if you got a boyfriend you'd slow your roll there kid.

>>2375995
>They're both still pretty small. I'd say about 3 inches in length, and when they'd get too big I'd get individual tanks
>>2375998
>>2375999
Thanks for the advice but I've already decided to not do it. I looked into the habitats of both and realized that yeah it wouldn't be too compatible. I'll just be getting individual tanks for them.

>>2376028
Sounds good. Ideally you should setup an extra outdoor enclosure for the tortoise to use during the day in warmer months. They do so much better healthwise when they have regular access to real sunlight. When it's a baby that's as simple as bringing the plastic tub or whatever it's living in outside for a while. Once bigger it will need a dedicated pen in the yard.

>>2376028
Also post up a pic of the turtle so we can figure out the species.

>>2369670
It will eventualy, but it looks far better using proper sand, so you see them moving under it.

Since it's a sand boa it would be the most you'd see of it when there's no food.

>>2373052
Didn't your parents love you and you're looking to compensate?

>>2373113
You can find things like this in Europe for 250€, what are you doing there America?

>>2376076
>but it looks far better using proper sand
And its way worse for the snake
Sand is impossible to keep sanitary so it's unfit for sand boas in captivity

>>2375922
He qouted me from another thread about animal welfare policies. Go vent about your pathetic little dick elsewhere. Im morens than youll ever be

>>2375922
It was vitamin defiency. Next time take better care of your pets, cuck

my new snake has a few pink scales under its mouth, on the belly near the chin. i only notice them when it was eating. it this something to be worried about?

>>2375922
because you failed as an owner you hypocrite

>>2376028
>individual tanks
>tanks
you do realize how big sulcata tortoises get don't you? why do people get animals without even knowing what the hell they are

>>2376076
>it's better for me to look at who cares what's better for the snake
kill yourself. he can put it in a separate container with sand for a little while if he wants to watch it burrow

>>2376302
Post picture?

>>2375073
What is that lizard called? I want one

>>2376322
rhacodactylus leachianus

leachy gecko

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>>2375957
hope you are prepared for this eventually

>>2376322
get a crested gecko first if you have no experience with the rhacodactylus genus of geckos. leachies are harder to take care of

>>2376362
They won't grow that big if I keep them in a tank though.

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>>2376598

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I was babysitting a red eared slider, and it started walking quickly to me. Was it likely coming to bite me? I didn't have food and was sitting still. I got up before finding out, because I thought it probably wasn't coming to be pet.

>>2376776
It either wanted food, wanted something to hide under, or it hates you

>>2376785
Fooey, it probably hates me. Do you know if it's possible for it to get used to whoever is caring for it, or will it always be wary?

>>2376797
i dont know if turtles can actually tell people apart or not
if it can, it would take some time before you earn its trust

>>2376806
I guess time will tell. Thanks for your wisdom, anon.

Hey guys I got a pretty important question. I just found two eggs in a log that i have for my leopard geckos. Now, i dont want them to lay eggs, is there anything i can do to stop this? and also, are they gonna keep laying eggs their whole life?

thanks guys

>>2376849
Dont cohabitate leopard geckos

>>2376873
too late for that

>>2376875
>cull eggs
>get new tank
>seperate geckos
wow that was hard

>>2376876
b-b-b-b-but then the geckos wont be fwiends

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can someone here please tell me what morph this ball python is? the person selling says shes a hypo lemonblast is looking for offers on her. i've been looking for a ball python for a while and this one looks beautiful.

>>2376883
Don't buy it.
Its not a healthy animal and has a neurological condition because of bad breeders

>>2376906
i just looked up what you mentioned, looks like its tied to genetics :( its a shame since spider looks so nice spider looks pretty nice.

>>2376906
Pretty much what I think about Spiders. Why people continue to breed them is kinda sick.

>>2376914
like it seems pretty well documented, so its total ignorance

>>2376915
>>2376914
It's been documented since the first spider was bred. It was more severe and often fatal back then but they bred them anyways because they cared about money more than the snakes.

wow... them eyes... looks like shiny copper and brass..... definelty look like "someone home there".....

>>2376917
lmao
>"This means they can be born with a deformed spine. The kinks may or may not be an issue with the animal's ability to thrive.

hhmmmm..... I wonder if I could ride one of those giant tortoise?!??!!?!.... asked my previous neighbours quite a few time if I could ride their doggy... but nope... eventhough I weigh around the same weight as the dog.... :(

>>2376921
Bad trolling attempt

>>2376806
My blue tongued skink hated my ex girlfriend and bit a few times on different occasions
Never bit me though, never bit anyone else either.

>>2376883
Is it a spider or a pinstripe though? Sorry I'm not well-versed in bp morphs

>>2376922
it's called speech.... speaking your mind... should try it... it's quite liberating... and no... I do not need to parasite off other people's energy... for I generate an excess of life sustaning energy.....

>>2374088
she is in separate terrarium 2 days now and she has not eaten

Hi anons, 4 days ago i bought two australian green tree frogs. They are both eating by now, but one of them has dry skin. Only idea i had is that its dehydrated, but humidity is around 65% all the time and they have clean water bowl awailable all the time.

>>2376879

Put eggs in freezer. Separate geckos to their own tanks. A male leo will absolutely exhaust a single female with mating if living in same tank year round. When intentionally mating leos you always either put male in with female for short period of time during mating season, or you do a 1 male and 2+ females ratio.

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Can anyone help me identify what type of morph my leopard gecko is ? I got it as a 'fancy' Leopard gecko with no other information on it

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>>2377136

>>2377138
>>2377136
Looks like a tangerine to me

>>2377115
Spray it with water.

>>2377166
Thanks. should i spray it so its wet all the time?

>>2376304
I dunno Anon. Why do people post without reading a different post through?
>>2376028

>>2377136
>>2377146
What's this guys said, probably a hypo tangerine.

I have a question. Is it possible for a leopard gecko to have balance issues without ES? Also if a gecko does have ES do the symptoms worsen or stay the same as they are currently being shown? Mine leopard gecko moves his head a lot, will walk shakily, and last night he was staring up at a hide and when he went to put his foot up to climb it (still far from the hide) he tripped and fell onto his side. I just got him from a breeder recently but he is not an enigma morph. I was hoping to breed him maybe in a few years but I don't want to produce sick offspring.

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So I found this turtle in the middle of my apartment complex. There are no rivers or streams nearby and if there were it'd be impossible for it to show up there. I'm guessing some might have had it as a pet and released him. Can I get an id? I'm guessing it's a mud turtle but I don't know what species

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Bottom pic. I put him in a cage shown in the first pic to keep him away from my smaller red I eared slider

Also what does my skin color look like

>>2377549
looks more like a musk turtle

>>2377561
I think your right. Where should I take it i might keep it if it can live with my res but I don't think that's likely

>>2377595
>>2377561
Looking into it they can be found in texas but it seems odd how it ended up in my apartment complex

>>2377598
I'd try to contact a nearby wildlife center
if its native, they'll take it and release it somewhere safe

Anyone ever heard of the biodude? Experience with his Products? Also where can I get cheap basking wood and decorative wood? Do expos usually have viv decoration? Thanos in Advance

>>2375535
what the hell
who pick poison snake like that

>>2376883
bp's are retarded
get a real snake instead

>>2376906
>My male spider is 4 months old and is already showing signs of the wobble. It's completely normal in spider morphs. I think it's adorable. I will sit and watch mine forever just laughing at him. Haha I kind of feel like its the 'special' morph of the ball pythons. Like they aren't all there.

>>2377024
nothing changed as for today :(

Damn dude, I wish -I love turtles but they are illegal herein Colombia for some reason.

>>2376806
of course they can. even fish can tell people apart

>>2376875
how hard is it to get a second tank?

>>2376883
>>2377820
this. natural balls are already on the lower end of intelligence for snakes and breeder ones are worse

>>2377024
but does she have proper temps, hiding spots, humidity, etc.?

>>2378020
what snake can i get if i want an intelligent one
don't say sand boa because those morons try to dig into the carpet

>>2377766

Cheapest is to head to local park or woods and look for deadfall. Boil (best), bake (good), or thoroughly scrub down and soak (adequate but slight risk) to sterilize. Allow to dry completely before putting in tank. Use non-aromatic hardwoods only. Do not use pine or any coniferous wood, or cedar.

>>2377127
>Put eggs in freezer.
That's messed up. What a waste. They're easy to hatch, and easy to find a home for, or you could get store credit for them or something

>>2378178
>hatching leopardgeckos
just no. the market is way too oversaturated with common beginner herps. the only home you'll find for them is some retard that gets them killed under shit care in a few months.

>>2378181
That's not likely, most people can handle a Leo. and if one is so worried they can talk to person who buys it from them first, it's easy to tell who can take good care of a pet by talking to them, asking them questions and by the kind of questions they ask.
Or take it into a good pet store that gives good advice. And it should be fine.

>>2378189
There's still too many leos everywhere. Every pet store has dozens of them, there are hundreds of classifieds at any time. It's completely unnecessary to hatch them just because they randomly laid eggs. If you aren't breeding some special snowfalke autismo morph you either have to give it away super cheap and have it end up with a shit keeper or never getting rid of it.

>>2378192
whoever advocated putting them in a freezer is fucked in the head though.
I don't know how it is in the states, but in Canada, it would be really easy to sell to someone good. All herps are more rare these days due to expensive export fee laws (700 dollars USD) for any animals shipped from outside the country.
But I know that they are popular because a lot of people want them, and it shouldn't be that hard to find someone who can take care of it properly. The average person can, even really fucking stupid kids can, I've seen it before
It's better than putting it in the freezer like a sick fuck
Hell, feed it to snake or sell it as feeder, before you pointlessly kill a living thing and put it's body to waste

>>2378197
t. anti-abortionist

>>2378199
Yes, no decent and self respecting aryan would or should kill their own child

>>2378200
In fact, I find it EXTREMELY astounding that people who believe in murdering their own children aren't rare, it's insane

>>2375184
Whenever I visit the reptile exhibit at the local zoo the mambas are the only snakes that consistently come up to the window, flick their tongues out at patrons, and try to scale the glass. Is it just their prey drive or are they easier to condition to expect food from humans? Or is it strangely displayed aggression?

>>2378063
ophiophagus hannah

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Where were you when boa constrictor was declared best herp?

>>2378197
Freezing the eggs, anon. Not freezing babies after they have hatched.

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>>2378063
colubrids are generally more intelligent, I think it has to with always being on the hunt for food rather than waiting for it to come to them