Where were you when Dinosaur family tree was kill: http://w

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The shit is going down.

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The fluffy ornithischians are coming... #FeathernazisRising

>>2340245
>feathered Stegosaurus

It all makes sense now!

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Saurischia is kill... (Author or the study)

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/t-rex-gets-new-home-shakeup-dino-family-tree

My paleomind has been raped.

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HELL YEAH

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What a day, what a lovely day.

>>2340245
Between Kulindadromeus and Psittacosaurs having those tail quills, it was inevitable.

>>2340237
>Hans-Dieter Sues, a vertebrate palaeontologist at the Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of Natural History in Washington DC, says the study should stoke discussion. “But I caution against totally reorganizing the dinosaur family tree just yet," he says. For one thing, palaeontologists’ analyses of relations among species are keenly sensitive to which species are considered, as well as which and how many anatomical features are included, he says.

literally nothing happening here.

all we have to do is break pneumaticity down by individual sinus and pleurocoel and this whole thing lands in the trash. Because they didn't weight their characters.

>>2340373

When Chilesaurus, Buriolestes (Already recognized as sauropodomorph) or Daemonosaurus are included in the study then it will be the real deal.

The unweighted characters are regarded by some as more informative (not really true) but I´m still thinking that do it like that was a good idea. We do not have as much information in those basal members as in the crown group, so better let the characters speak by themselves.

>>2340391
>so better let the characters speak by themselves
their mistake is in counting a suite of characters as a single one.

>reading article on this
>look at address bar
>-childhood-shattered-what-is-real-anymore/520338/

>>2340400
the public's mistake is in thinking new science must be good science.

in real life if you heard about it, it's probably not going to last.

quadrupedal Spinosaurus? Scavenger T. rex?

most of the 'science' that makes it to regular newspapers is bullshit. This is no exception.

>>2340237
I was always confused as to why theropods weren't closer to ornithischian dinos given that birds are theropods

>>2340446
this wouldn't change anything in that regard.

it would still mean bird hips in birds evolved from lizard hips in theropods and that bird hips in ornithischians evolved completely separately.

the only situation that would change that is if birds weren't theropod dinosaurs, which is looking pretty fucking unlikely.

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WE

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>>2340458
WUZ

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>>2340460
REPTILES

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SHEEEIT

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>>2340466
HOL UP

>>2340468
smart enough to know that eggs break on a hard surface, not smart enough to know that's not an egg

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>>2340468

>>2340477
Hilarious for some reason

>>2340477
Why does this make me feel like I'm the Egyptian Vulture and I'm watching my own life?

>>2340395

Well a bootstrap of 66 and a Bremer support of 4 for Ornithoscelida are not bad I think.
Ok they should put more characters and more taxa but is 20 evolutionary steps less than the traditional one.

>>2340405

Not all. The quadrupedal stance was not ok, but the general idea of the article of Ibrahim et al is still valid:
Short legged, EXTREMELY well adapted for swiming theropod.

(Please, don´t start bitching about Sigilmassasaurus, we know that)

>>2340456

Feduccia faps thinking on that.

>>2340468

Seriemas are awesome.

>>2341033
>Well a bootstrap of 66 and a Bremer support of 4 for Ornithoscelida are not bad I think
it's meaningless if they didn't properly weight their characters or excluded ones that matter.

>>2341037
>don´t start bitching about Sigilmassasaurus, we know that
then you know that Ibrahim et al is NOT still valid. It was overturned and to date remains that way.

>>2341037
>Feduccia faps thinking on that
He's not the only one.

His hypotheses are about as likely as this revision. Just my opinion.

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>>2340237
>some people refuses to change the definition of Dinosauria
>mfw sauropods probably won't be considered dinosaurs anymore

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Sorry.

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>>2341655
Nice

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>>2341655