hi /an/ i have a probably dumb question is adopting purebred

>>2279853
Don't buy accessories (pugs, chihuahuas, etc.) or compensators (pitbulls, doberman, etc.)

just save the ones that need saving

>>2279853
Buying from a reputable breeder isn't unethical. 99% of people breeding designer mixes (doodles etc) are BYBs or puppy mills who want to make money. What breeds are you interested in?

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>>2279856
i'm not interested in designer mixers. borzois, bull terriers, and greyhounds are my favorite kind of dogs. i've fantasized about getting a retired greyhound in the future but i don't know how i feel about supporting the racing industry.
i like all oriental cats, especially foreign white. i don't care about the breed tho, i just really like the long faces so even a stray cat with a long face would be fine. sorry about the blog post

>>2279858
I didn't think adopting retired grayhounds supported dog racing. Does it?

http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/adopt/tips/top_reasons_adopt.html

I see adopting an animal as saving a homeless kid, and buying an animal as purchasing a slave from a slave market.

It depends on a lot of things. I don't think it's weird that it makes you feel bad, after all there is an enormous problem of unwanted pets being abandoned and ultimately, culled - I wouldn't be able to in good conscience, buy a purebred dog without a particular reason (i.e. I want to compete, show or breed dogs at a high level) knowing that there are plenty of wonderful animals dying because no one wants them.

The thing is though, adoption from a kennel is a significant commitment, particularly when dogs may have pre-existing problems such as anxiety, lack of socialisation, medical conditions etc. which can put people off.

Obviously it isn't for everyone, but it is probably the most rewarding form of dog ownership in the long term. If you just want a specific breed and don't mind about overcoming some potential behavioural problems. there are organisations set up specifically for the rehoming of particular breeds, retired racing greyhounds for instance is something that's very close to my heart.

I think the important thing about buying instead of adoption is simply being sensible about it. Are you contacting ethical breeders, are you going to give it a good home, are you going to make sure it's vaccinated, chipped, neutered/spayed and socialised, do you have enough income to ensure it's fed a wholesome diet and that you can get it to the vets at any time?

Ultimately the last thing you want is for your expensive purebreed dog to become too much of a burden and be forced to put it up for adoption yourself. At that point you're just becoming part of the problem.

>>2279856

>Buying from a reputable breeder isn't unethical.

I think it is. If all breeders shut down, no more dogs would have to languish and then die in shelters.

There is really no need to keep breeding dogs. It's something humans do 99.9999% of the time for the sake of fancy/fun. The dog gets nothing out of it because if he hadn't been bred into existence he wouldn't exist in the first place.

The many other dogs who already exist get to be seen as "mutts" or "curs" and then get "euthanized" (murdered, more like--it's not really euthanasia)

>>2279864
This is so stupid holy shit

>>2279858
>i've fantasized about getting a retired greyhound in the future but i don't know how i feel about supporting the racing industry.
How does it support the racing industry?

>>2279871
Not that anon, but why do you think it's stupid?

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>>2279860
>>2279880
well if i'm buying a dog that was used in the races, am i not indirectly supporting the races? if it wasn't for the rehoming organizations they would just be killed once they're not good for racing anymore, and i find that incredibly cruel. i'm probably doing some mind gymnastics here and it doesn't sound right, but i feel there's something wrong with it.. i'm not an expert in this matter so correct me if im wrong. i'm not even 100% sure dog racing is a bad thing, i hear mixed opinions on it

>>2279888
I think we should focus on eliminating puppy mills and backyard breeders because those are where most shelter dogs have come from. Reputable breeders who do health/genetic testing, carefully choose which dogs to breed together, and provide lifetime support to the new owners, are not a problem. We don't need to stop breeding dogs. Dogs are great companions and it would we awful if they disappeared. We just need to breed them better, which some people are already doing.

>>2279889
The dogs would die if it wasn't for the rehoming organizations, and from what I know, those organizations aren't actually affiliated with the races

>>2279889
The greyhound rescues are Largely nonprofit, meaning any excess money they get does not line someone's pockets, it goes back into the charitable work which in this case, it would be used for future greyhounds, feeding them, housing them, getting medical care etc. So as long as the organization is a 501c(3) it already can't be used to profit the racing market.

Rescues do not work directly with race tracks as far as I know. Most rescues work with municipal shelters and pull their greyhounds. This is how a majority of rescues work. I haven't heard of a greyhound rescue that actually goes to the events and buys dogs, and if they did they would be buying the healthy expensive dogs so the whole point would be moot. Generally what happens is the owner of a greyhound who can no longer run drops the dog off at a shelter. There may or may not be a fee involved. Then the shelter contacts the rescue or vice versa so the greyhound goes to rescue. But the vast majority of greyhounds, it's assumed about 80%, do not live to see a home. It is much more convenient and sometimes cheaper to take the dog out back and put a bullet in it's head. But also, there are people from labs willing to buy dogs too, healthy dogs for vivisection, dissection, blood transfusion, and other tests. They buy the dogs in bulk and sell them to labs and universities across the state or the country because the dogs are cheap, have an amazing anatomy with a large heart and little fat or fur, and the dogs are quiet and used to spending time in a cage. This option is the absolute best for a race dog owner, because it's the last way they can squeeze money out of an otherwise useless dog.

>>2279864
You have to keep in mind that most dogs in a shelter do not come from the breeders, they came from owners. It's an issue of people, for whatever reason, being unable to keep the dogs. Reputable breeders help with that by trying to inform potential puppy owners, quizzing them, refusing adoption if they don't feel it's right, and always accepting the dog back if it doesn't work out. That being said, even dogs from reputable breeders can end up at a shelter and BYBs may not have a single one of their offspring become homeless. But in the end, it's the owner's responsibility after purchase.

>>2279858
>i've fantasized about getting a retired greyhound in the future but i don't know how i feel about supporting the racing industry.
If the racing industry doesn't have a place to send retired dish lickers they just shoot them and bury them in mass graves (greyhound racing was banned in my state for this very reason)

My housemate has a retired greyhound and they are anti racing. You're doing a good thing by adopting a greyhound, stopping the industry is a legislative issue. The people running the rescues are, in my experience, great people dealing with both the racing industry and the public to help the dogs.

and you're not a shithead for getting a specific type of dog off a legitimate breeder. Just make sure they're a legit REGISTERED breeder, not just an idiot posting puppies online

>>2279888
It's like "let's have no kids because some Africans and Indians have 10 each and it's really heavy on our planet". How this is a cure?