so which breed is going to be the next "worlds most aggressive

>>2249268
American Pitbull Terrier is overall the strongest and most useful breed of all time. So I don't think anything can surpass it. Of course, the bad side to this popularity is ghetto people using the breed for fights, irresponsible owners getting them but not socializing them properly,etc.

There's not gonna be a next, Pitbulls are the best dogs.

fingers crossed for shiba inu

but probably a dogo argentino or cane corso

pit bulls are banned here an d those seem to be the white trash dogs of choice

>>2249268
None

Pit bulls will always be at the top due to their innate tendency for violence and their place at the top of the charts for maulings

>>2249276
go away

>>2249271
true that, but i wish those types of people wouldnt deny responsible pet owners the experience of owning one in the places there banned

I'm going for Akitas. Akitas are larger and actually prone to stranger aggression, which the APBT, AmStaff and StaffBull are not, and Akitas are also dog aggressive and have a high prey drive. They are also much more stubborn than the pit bull breeds. The thing about akitas were they were unknown and expensive, so generally you buy one, you know wtf you are doing because the breeders would make sure you knew what you were doing. The one thing with akitas though is you can mix it with nearly any other popular dog, and the offspring will be easier to handle in some way or another than a pure bred akita. I see a lot of akitas come in through the shelter, but I see way more akita mixes, and the mixes, while still can be dangerous, is nowhere near as bad as most of the purebred akitas we get in.

Keep in mind, pit bull will always have a place due to the umbrella term, mutts being pit bulls and all.

>>2249272
Dogo Argentino, Brazilian Fila, Japanese Tosa, Perra de Preso Canario, and APBT are all banned here.

For my country, I'm picking AmStaff or Akita.

My bet is on huskies.

>>2249285
This. I see an awful lot of them in the UK and an awful lot walked by small people

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Hopefully, it's gonna' be Chihuahuas!

Not going to happen. Pitbulls are the most aggressive and dangerous dog. They randomly become unhinged and maul their owners or handlers without warnings and even understand how to use traditional play signals to bait people into a false sense of security before attacking them.

These dogs are irresponsible to own because every single one WILL hurt someone.

>>2249272
>Shiba
Sure, because a small fluffy meme dog strikes fear in the hearts of anyone foolish enough to cross it's path.
They meet none of the requirements for a dangerous dog breed, size, strength, tenacity, disposition, etc. Now an Akita on the other hand.....

>>2249492
>every single one WILL hurt someone.
Jesus fuck what an ignorant statement.

>>2249492
>Pitbulls are the most aggressive and dangerous dog

In temperament tests, Pitbulls were confirmed to be less aggressive than Golden Retrievers, Beagles, Bichon Frise, Chihuahua, Cocker Spaniels, Shih Tzu, Yorkshire Terrier.

>they randomly become unhinged

Burden of proof is on you.

>every single one WILL hurt someone

Burden of proof is on you.

>>2249492
Pits are dog aggressive. Bred to fight other dogs viciously but be kind to humans. What use is a fighting dog who attacks it's human?

There are breeds that are actually prone to human aggression but the pitbull is not one of them.

>>2249527
>In temperament tests, Pitbulls were confirmed to be less aggressive than Golden Retrievers, Beagles, Bichon Frise, Chihuahua, Cocker Spaniels, Shih Tzu, Yorkshire Terrier.
Nice source faggot.

>>2249530
>Pits are dog aggressive. Bred to fight other dogs viciously but be kind to humans.
MUST BE WHY PITBULLS ACCOUNT FOR A MASSIVE PETCENTAGE OF DOG FATALITIES

BECAUSE THEY AREN'T PEOPLE AGGRESSIVE!!!

:^)

>>2249539
>MASSIVE PETCENTAGE OF DOG FATALITIES

An umbrella term for a dog that includes several breeds including mixes makes up for a large percentage, imagine that.
>IF I USE CAPS LOCK MY STATEMENTS MAGICALLY BECOME TRUE!

>>2249541
So you are admitting they are incredibly dangerous dogs?

>>2249539
>Nice source faggot

Spoken like a 10 year old underage edgelord.

http://einhorninsurance.com/california-insurance/pit-bulls-pass-atts-temperament-test/

Pitbulls tend to behave better than other breeds

http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/

http://www.fortheloveofpits.org/Education/Library/Society/ATTS.htm

Nearly all temperament test results say the same thing. Pits are less aggressive than a lot of other breeds. Also, Pitbull attacks tend to be showed more in the media because they are bigger dogs and can do more damage. All other breeds can also attack and have attacked, but they're likely not as strong as pits, and not newsworthy.


You still have no proof about how every single pitbull is dangerous and how they all randomly become unhinged. Burden of proof is on you and I'm already 100% sure you have none. As evidence by your reply to this post.

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I've only been attacked by German Shepherds. All of the ones I've met in my life seem to automatically hate me. All other the dogs love me.

Pitbulls and herding dogs are the best.

>>2249555
artour leave

>>2249276
Labradors.

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>>2249268
pitbulls are the most dog aggressive breed on the planet and the most prone to violent mood swings where they maul a toddler or the elderly so never

The PDF is in full force in this thread.

>>2249597
Must be a raid by Reddit.

>>2249530
No

Due to selective breeding for the purposes of dogfighting, pit bulls are highly dog-aggressive. This aggression is not limited to dogs; pit bulls frequently kill other companion pets and domesticated animals. Leading pit bull education websites warn pit bull owners to, "Never trust your pit bull not to fight." These same websites also state that pit bulls should never be left alone with another dog or animal. The practical and moral question is: Why is "pit bull dog aggression" tolerated at all?
Pit bull dog aggression is unacceptable for two reasons. In many instances it leads to human aggression. A common scenario is the following: A loose pit bull attacks a leashed dog being walked by its owner. The owner gets seriously injured trying to stop the attack. Every year, one or more Americans suffers death due to pit bull dog aggression, including pit bull rescuers like Rita Woodard and Mary Jo Hunt who died while attempting to break up a fight between their pit bulls.
Secondly, far too many beloved companion pets and domesticated animals suffer a violent death by the powerful jaws of pit bull terriers each year. In some instances, these attacks involve pit bulls charging through screen doors of private homes -- in a home invasion attack -- to kill the pet living inside. Owners of the pet are then forced to watch as their dog or cat is disemboweled by the pit bull and pray that the animal does not turn its attention on an innocent family member next.

>>2249544
>posting blatant pro pit bull nonsense as sources

Shame on you

>>2249541
>pit bull is le umbrella term so you can't ban them!

It refers to three bully breeds and a few others that have received their shitty genes. Yes.

Funny when how we use even larger umbrella terms such as sight hounds or terriers, pit bulls still top the number of attacks by a significant portion

Shitty, violent beasts

>>2249585
correlation does not equal causation man.

>>2249410
This?

>>2249539

>all caps means I'm right

I hope there's no next "most dangerous dog." Labeling a breed as dangerous, insane, sneaky, or monstrous does fuckall but make the breed more attractive to people who want a big, scary dog and are willing to abuse, overbreed, and neglect the dog to get what they want.

On the flip side, it makes responsible owners wary of properly socialising their dogs because misinformed people are going to lash out at what they see as a threat, no matter how well-behaved a dog is...which can contribute to aggression later in a dog's life.

I wish TIME would do a piece on shitty dog owners. I'm not talking about abusive owners, exactly, but lazy fucks who take dogs and decide they don't need training and exercise.

>>2249675
>a logical post in the middle of a pitbull hate thread
What is your opinion, would you say that as a whole pitbull type dogs are far more dangerous than any other type or breed of dog?

>>2249687

Yes and no. They're big, smart, and require exercise, socialization, and mental stimulation daily to keep them content. If their needs aren't met, you will get a pent-up, stressed, fearful dog that will attack, and that's where the danger is; few people are willing to put in the work it takes to train a pit bull and keep it occupied. Pit bull advocates do more harm than good when they advertise their dogs as snugglers who are content to sleep all day; sure you can snuggle them, but that doesn't mean you should ignore their exercise requirements later.

>>2249268
Chihuahuas.

>>2249597
>>2249605
Get out, /pol/. Years ago, dog hate wouldn't even phase /an/.

>>2249739
>/pol/

Why the fuck does everything people disagree with these days have to come from /pol/

What does this have to do with politics or race?

This shitty meme has gone too far and I'm calling you out for being a fucking idiot

>>2249492
"Every single one WILL hurt someone" gave away the troll, but gonna defend this anyway. I'm a dog trainer and I've found that pits are the most predictable and even tempered dogs that I encounter.

>>2249741
X defense force is a reddit and /pol/ thing

I'm calling you out for being a newfag

>>2249741
A lot of boards on 4chan have been colonized by complete newfags from tumblr, reddit and the like which are insanely political(liberal usually) and their biggest enemy is /pol/

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>>2249710
>smart

Actually, pit bulls are not a particularly intelligent breed and were never bred to select intelligent traits.

>>2249675
This post is a dangerous line of thinking because it paints all victims of pit bulls as deserving their fate as if only pit bulls that were mistreated would attack.

This is false.

Many owners who treat pit bulls well and did everything by the book still get mauled while pit bull advocates instantly jump down their throats and try to blame the victims.

It's shameful.

>>2249585
>spay/neuter: no
And there you have it folks

>>2249742
Yes pit bulls are good at masking their one toons before they attack, they were selectively bred to do so

According to expert Randall Lockwood, pit bulls are also liars. In a 2004 law enforcement training video, taped when Lockwood was vice president for research and educational outreach for the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), he shares the following story:
"Fighting dogs lie all the time. I experienced it first hand when I was investigating three pit bulls that killed a little boy in Georgia. When I went up to do an initial evaluation of the dog's behavior, the dog came up to the front of the fence, gave me a nice little tail wag and a "play bow" -- a little solicitation, a little greeting. As I got closer, he lunged for my face."
If a pit bull can fool an expert such as Lockwood, how can the average citizen anticipate a pit bull's future action? In a separate example, animal behavioral expert Peter Borchelt was sued after the pit bull he was training for a client "suddenly" attacked an ex-fireman. After encountering Gabriel Febbraio on the street and assuring him that the pit bull was friendly, the dog broke free from Borchelt and attacked Febbraio in the groin. The jury awarded Febbraio $1 million dollars.

>>2249742

How long have you been training? Is it worth it, or do owners drive you up the wall?

>>2249747
>shit bull advocate victim blaming again

There you have it folks

>>2249753
Did I make your tummy unhappy little man?

>>2249745
The thing is that post had nothing to do with politics at all

And if the question is banning pit bulls, it's mostly liberal places like Montreal and Colorado that do this

>>2249754
I don't need a "tough breed" to feel big, so I'm not the "little man" here

>>2249756
I'll give you a tough breeding ;)

>>2249755
I know, just saying you can't even say anything typical of 4chan culture on any board without being called "/pol/" nowadays

>>2249746
Can you give an example of a non shitty owner being mauled? Because every time I see any mauling, not just pits, it's always "oh we loved the dog so much" but it was never walked, or never trained, or the owners treat their animal like it's a child, or they just got the dog and pushed it too much. You do not raise a dog like a child.

In the end, dogs are a tool. It is bad that people get hurt because they can't handle it, they shouldn't get hurt and I'd rather see the dog rehomed or euthanized before anything happens. but ultimately it's not the dog''s fault if something happened, to blame your pet is to literally blame yourself. If you think differently, you're actually a nigger trying to place blame on something other than your own ignorance.

>>2249751
Not that anon, I train dogs but I don't trained owner dogs for a reason. I'm too short tempered with people. My experience is I take their dogs, train them in 2 weeks, come visit, and the owners are not doing a fucking thing I asked, and the dog is back in it's old ways within a few months. So now I am a k9 trainer, I don't have to deal with pampered owners and the handlers will actually heed my fucking advice.

>>2249758
Kek

>>2249764
That is the dumbest fucking logic ever

I can provide hundreds of examples of people who were mauled by shitbulls

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-victim-realities.php

Go to the victim stories section and then prove to me that they were all bad owners. The burden of proof is on you.

>to blame your pet is to literally blame yourself.

No that is completely stupid.

Violence and aggression are in their nature

They were bred to be aggressive and attack according to subtle cues by violent men who enjoyed blood sport.

It is not the victims fault, you can not take the inate violence out of pit bulls through any training methods

>>2249773

Blaming a dog for an owner's shortcomings is a cheap and lazy way for undisciplined owners to soothe their own egos.

>>2249773

>arguing that training doesn't work to someone who trains for a living

Wew lad. I hope you don't have dogs.

>>2249773

>thinking an owner will admit they fucked up

>>2249773
>Posts a blog
Holy shit you had one job

>>2249609
>nonsense as sources

You can dismiss it all you want, doesn't change the facts that no matter how many temperament tests you can look at, the results are always the same. Go ahead, google the Pitbull's temperaments. Do some research. You'll dismiss everything anyway because you hate the animal irrationally.

Also I called it.
>"You still have no proof about how every single pitbull is dangerous and how they all randomly become unhinged. Burden of proof is on you and I'm already 100% sure you have none. As evidence by your reply to this post."

You failed to post any evidence to your claims like I predicted. You dismiss anything said to you. So you basically proved everything I said right. Congrats, you played yourself.

>>2249773
>burden of proof is on you

Why are you copying >>2249527

Where was your proof to those statements? I love how you crumble when called out on your stupidity.

>>2249776
>>2249783
>>2249796
>>2249798
>>2249819
Nice samefagging assmad shit bull owner

Pitbulls were bred to maul and selected for their aggressive traits

You can do everything "correctly" with them but they are still prone to randomized violent outbursts unlike most other dogs

You can not train the genetic violence out of pit bulls and they do turn on owners who "do everything right" which is kind of funny when exshitbull owners get turned on by their fellow cult members who blame them for the violence inherent in the dogs

>>2249783
I do have two corgos. Once I had to shoot an unleashed pit bull in someone's front yard that lunged for them. I love Texas.

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>>2249851
To say aggression can't be defined via prey aggression and dog aggression vs stranger aggression is outright retarded. By your logic, every hound dog should be aggressive towards people because they were bred to kill other animals.

>>2249268
Pit bulls are going to stay as the most violent and vicious dogs because they are

They top the charts for mauling of humans and other animals, and then idiot defenders try to claim other breeds are more agressive. Maybe, but pits top the charts for damage done because they don't just bite, they dig in and maul.

Their defenders on social media are pretty cancerous too

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>>2249851
>baseless assumptions
>ad hominem
>name calling
>unable to refute anything
>dismissing everything to spew the same repetitive nonsense he can't prove

You do this to yourself. And yes, I know you're going to dismiss this post again since that's all you can do. All you can do is cry on an anonymous imageboard. Meanwhile pitbulls continue to be popular and even police own pitbulls (so dangerous right?)

So even if you dismiss this post, others can read it and see. Facts.

1. You stated all pitbulls are dangerous. You failed to provide any proof for this. And you will never be able to (your reply to this post proves this)

2. You deny reality and get back to making up things about pitbulls.

3. Your reply to this will not contain any proof to your claims, any intelligent argument against the things said against you, and will prove everything I've said about you.

No matter how you respond to this, you failed. Discussion over.

>>2249492
NO dog ever started a world war

>>2249492
DUDE, get an education before spewing out that ignorant shit.

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Before I worked for Minnesota DNR I worked in animal recovery for my state's animal control office. Fresh out of high school I tried my best to have an objective look at pitbulls because my aunt has owned them while I was growing up. However, as the months went on the growing trend of pitbulls with dog-on-dog incidents and three serious dog-on-human incidents became apparent to me. I feel terrible because it's hard to me to defend the breed. Labs, small terriers, etc may have worse temperaments, but those cases rarely moved past a growl or a small wound that needed some ointment/spray.
I will never forget a man's young son bawling in front of me after a pitbull brokes its leash to tear their Schnauzer to pieces. Even the father didn't want the pitbull put down, he just wanted justice for his dog.
I don't vilify the breed for what is in their blood, but more restrictions need to be put on the type of people that own these dogs.

>>2249272
>dogo argentino or cane corso
Both of those look dumb as shit with their ears cut off.

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>>2249271
>Most useful breed

T. Never had a job where you needed a dog

>>2249271
>Pitbulls are the best dogs.
t. Jerome

>>2249268
labs (according to dog attack statistics), because amerilards can't even raise fucking labs to not be violent

>>2249271
>most useful
>strongest
Lol ok Tyrone.

>>2249990
>father didnt want the dog put down
>but wanted justice

What a fucking pathetic cuck. I think any normal person would want to cave that dogs skull in with a hammer.

>>2249759
Maybe /pol/ should stop leaking out of their containment and farting everywhere if they're so afrad of people being politically incorrect towards them.