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I want to grow Ctenitis sloanie from spores but I'm not knowledgeable when it comes to plants.

Is it normal for a carrot to go to flower already in its first year?
I've sown in February, but they only sprouted in April. All have been harvested now and the soil re-worked, but I let the one that went to flower stand there just because (inb4 it's not a carrot but some ultra toxic apioid! Nah, flower strongly smells like carrot and there's an orange turnip visible just extending a few mm above ground)
I wonder, will that one still produce viable seed in the rest of autumn and if not, is the turnip still edible or does flowering of the top make it woody/bitter/crumpled... as is the case with many other herbs once they flower?

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>>2230354
Pic

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You did it kid
also plont is pretty helpful here

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>>2230369
cheers m8. Yeah he's a great help in these threads, but all the other dumb stuff he shitposts about deserves a bit of banter.
>>2230335
My understanding of ferns is that growing from spores is time-consuming and highly fruitless, so skip that and just buy a small plant if you can. Then again, I only grow ones that have appeared as weeds in my Nepenthes pots...

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i got good advice in the last thread, can anyone give advice or tips to a terrarium newb?
just threw this together this morning

>>2230403
The problem Ctenitis sloanie is a critically endangered species that hails from my area. It's common name is the Florida Tree Fern, and is the only tree fern native to the lower 48. I just want to try helping out the species survival.

>>2230411
Don't fuck with it if you don't know plants.

>>2230411
I doubt it's any different from most ferns.

get yourself some tupperware, sterilize some soil (throw it in the microwave or oven), dampen that shit up toss it in a box throw spores over it and ditch it somewhere that gets plenty of light.

depending on the species you'll either want to do nothing or mix it with some sand or lime mortar.

if it's a species that grows in forest don't do anything, just use plain peat that should work for all species that prefer growing on neutral to low pH soil.

if it grows in walls you'll want to add some lime mortar to increase the pH.

if it's an epiphyte mix some sand with it for air-flow.

pinch cross ventilation holes on the side of the container, not in the top.

water it if it gets dry, other than that have fun looking at a box filled with dirt for half a year, most species take 3+ months to even do anything at all.

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First prey of a b52 x b52 I think it's an argentine ant so the plant is making the environment a favor.

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Sarraenia hybrid, the nectar is pretty visible, also its leucophylla part makes it have the nicest colors right now.

Whats the difference between a horticulturist and a botanist?

>>2230742
From my understanding a horticulturalist does more hand on work like farming and landscaping where a botanist is a scientist who does research
I too would like to see this explained as my understanding is limited

>>2230742
botanists research existing species, horticulturists create new ones.

one focusses on understanding the plant, the other focusses on improving it.

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>>2230369
I think these threads are the only times bugguy isn't trying to bait

>>2230757
so horticulturalists work with genetics and heredity? Are they considered scientists?

>>2230766
both work with genetics, but only horticulturists work with heredity.

they're both technically scientists, but not all of them do science.

>>2230771
that's interesting, thanks for clearing that up.
What careers can one find in each respective field?

>>2230771
Do both work with grafting? I always thought grafting was cool.

>>2230772
http://www.botany.org/bsa/careers/bot-spec.html

it's a wide field.

>>2230774
yes and no.

horticulturalists research and produce plants compatible for grafting, but they don't actually graft them themselves, that's mostly done by botanists.

>>2230742
From my understanding a horticulturist works with plants for business reasons, as in growing them, reproduce or clone them and so on.

A botanist is a biologist whos focus is on (vascular) plants, so he studies plants as in understanding and cataloging their biodiversity and relations, understanding their mechanisms and development and so on.

>>2230771
>horticulturists
>scientists

buggay doing mental gymnastics again ;)

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>>2230930
das ist so meme.

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What is your opinion on outdoor Nepenthes predating on native insects?

>>2230951
>that hand
jesus, how old are you?

>>2230951
It's probably healthier than giving them store bought livefood.

>>2230953
29 but that is what you get with atopic skin + outdoors work and hobbies.

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>>2230958
I work outside as well but my hands don't look nearly as old.

>>2230951
Honestly whats the difference between the nutritional composition of an Asian flying insects and whatever insects are native to you? The nepenthes involuntarily digest anything that is attracted to it, so I would assume they are genetically programmed to attract whats good for them

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>>2230951
Not really an issue, they seem to primarily attract wasps, ants, flies and other dickheads.
>>2230954
>>2230986
I don't think it was about nutrition desu, but the possible impact on bugs outside.

>>2231005
there aren't a whole lot of species that are attracted to fly traps.

it's mostly mosquitoes looking for a place to lay their eggs.

>>2230962
Bugguy are you a blonde bigfoot?

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>>2231008
ye.

>>2231005
oh in that case it probably doesn't matter at all

>>2231009
Timestamp, pls. If that's really you. I'm not trying to be a dick here, because you're actually helpful in these threads.

>>2231009
Why are your eyes closed on that photo?

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>>2231012
why do you need a timestamp for a picture that's obviously been taken in my garden.

>>2231016
my eyes squint when I smile, hence the dimples.

northern europeans have tiny eyes.

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>>2231007
Not true, Neps attract various invertebrates (usually pest ones which is handy). Obviously not enough to control pests whatsoever, but still.
>>2231016
He's our little resident Chinaman

>>2231021
>northern europeans have tiny eyes
Before the indo-europeans came here, perhaps. As of the end of the stone age, the majority populations in NE have had pretty big eyes.

Or are you perhaps implying that you're a Finn or a Sami?

>>2231019
>>2231009

Oh shit, yeah I forgot. I'll post a pic today, but all botanical places are closed. So I'll do it tomorrow. I'll go to any of these 3 locations of your choice Bugguy, I know where all the good stuff is.

1. Bill Sadowski Park & Hammock Preserve(All my childhood was literally spent there)
2. Castellow's Hammock(has a couple good species)
3. Fairchild Tropical Gardens(Renown for having tons of endangered, rare, exotic species of tropical plants from around the world, and I have a pass that is about to expire)

>>2231024
all they catch is shit flies and mosquitoes here, never seen anything that matters while dissecting them.

and I'd care if I'd find just a single bumblebee or whatever.

>Chinaman
the 1/8 asian I have isn't chinese.

>>2231029
Indonesian/Malay?
Weird how the world's shortest nation immigrates to the world's tallest, must look funny in the streets

>>2231027
my family came from denmark before they moved to germany.

>>2231032
sama-bajau.

fuck knows how that happened, all I know about my great great grandfather is that he was obsessed with bananas.

>>2231029
>mosquitoes
Ive seen this but it confuses me. nepenthes attract insects by using colors and nectar scents, correct? Why are mosquitoes drawn to them if they're attracted to heat and CO2?
I feel you would know this

>>2231038
>googles it
Wew, full Australoids apparently, seems they dilute easily indeed

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>>2231028
>Fairchild Tropical Gardens
go there before your pass expires.

make sure to post close-ups and take a knife with you for illegal cuttings.

>>2231040
>Why are mosquitoes drawn to them if they're attracted to heat and CO2?
that's just the females when they're feeding.

they lay their eggs in still bodies of water, like abandoned car tires and pitcher plants, hence why they get fucked.
>>2231041
my father has tan skin and black hair, I'm not sure what happened.

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>>2231038
Kek, your great great grandfather, you say? That means there's a direct patrilinear descendance, doesn't it? How can you then call yourself dutch?

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>>2231040
Because body of liquid. They'll lay their eggs in anything moist, they can apparently can be full of larvae in the wild (and there are dozens, if not hundreds of specialists that only live inside nep pitchers, even little crabs and frogs).

Pic related is N. sibuyanensis, mine has quite the palette for woodlice.

>>2231052
I don't.

you realize 'dutch' is an insult to the northerners of the netherlands right?

they're frisian.

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>>2231043
What makes you think I haven't in the past? Anyways, I'm already a step ahead. It'll give a good use for my trash gerber.

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>>2230962
I have old person palms only

>>2230986
I was just trying to parody outdoor cat threads

>>2231061
>Bill Sadowski Park & Hammock Preserve
is this place as boring as it sounds or am I making assumptions.

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>>2231068
you look like a corpse that's been drying in the sun.

>>2231069
It's a hardwood hammock. Has a few species of neat looking ferns and stuff. It's one of the few preserved hammocks in Miami. It's boring to many because it's small, like most nature parks in my area(not including our National Parks)

>>2231071
most parks here have less diversity than abandoned lawns.

>>2231073
LOL, almost every lawn in Miami isn't really grass. Even our grass looks like weeds! I could probably count about 10 different species the sky wasn't about to have an orgasm. It's about to pour.

>>2231076
that's relatively normal.

grass usually has several species of moss growing in it, some dandelions, hieracium, and daisys.

some lawns I maintain have more than 40 species.

>>2231078
No, grass is only a fraction amongst a sea of weeds

>>2231079
some of the lawns I maintain consist almost entirely out of Equisetum.

lawns are mostly weeds, as long as it looks green it doesn't matter.

>>2231050
I never would have guessed that. Nature is amazing
>>2231054
>even little crabs and frogs
what the FUCK thats so cool. is there a documentary out there solely on these plants?

>>2231085
all plant documentaries suck unless it comes to eating them.

>>2230406
not a bad start for one mornings work. Definitely post updates. We'd love to see how it progresses

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>>2231085
Unfortunately they don't get great coverage in documentaries, even BBC/Attenborough ones. Stewart McPherson recently did a few great short documentaries on specific species/expeditions, they cover the ecology and locals too (search Redfern Nepenthes on YouTube). Neps are great and have so many amazing adaptions and ecological niches, hence being so popular.

The species favoured by all the tiny crabs/frogs/spiders etc. is N. ampullaria (pic related), which has actually specialised to digest falling leaf litter - so it's barely even carnivorous anymore. The tadpoles and larvae living inside break down all the material that falls in, and shit it out in a digestible form for the plant.

>>2231108
my god. so natural selection basically said "okay roots dont work in soil here so lets put them on the outside"
thats beyond amazing. I need to pick a topic for my bio paper, this may be it.

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>>2231110
Not exactly - they still have functioning roots, but carnivorous plants grow in nutrient-poor habitats, so they have to resort to other methods of absorbing nutrients through leaves. There's vast amounts of information out there on carnivory in plants, in various forms, it all makes great material for research and essays.

Some Nepenthes like pic related and stuff like my flava have even evolved beyond conventional drowning to become sticky traps, the pitcher inner walls coated in viscous, mucousy liquid.

>>2231122
>plants grow in nutrient-poor habitats, so they have to resort to other methods of absorbing nutrients through leaves
thats basically what I meant
so the nep you posted is basically a pitfall/butterwort combo? thats absolutely phenomenal

>>2231085
I did see a documentary about Nepenthes once, was actually pretty good but I can't find that exact one. This one is pretty good though I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXAqfOMLw8

>>2230742
A horticulturist is someone who works with gardening/garden design/improving gardening

A botanist is someone who studies the physiology of plants

Botanists do a LOT of cross-disciplinary things, like how my dad works with plant genomes to try and create pathogen resistant plants, which is more along the lines of what a geneticist would do. A horticulturists come up with ways to keep those plants alive and happy.

>>2230951
Nature a bitch ain't it

>>2231122
They have roots with reduced functionality. The root hairs have become very prone to chemical burns

>>2231146
That was really interesting!

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>>2231135
Ah ok, I thought you meant roots literally. Yeah N. inermis, dubia, jamban and other highland Sumatran species seem to have specialised to catch small flies, and the whole interior has become a digestive zone (usually theres a waxy zone too, to make bugs lose their footing and fall).
>>2231178
True m8, although thankfully occasional light fertilisation still works

I'm clogging up the thread with Nepenthes, but they are my specialty. Better than droning on about bugguy's genetics I suppose?

>>2231200
Nah to be clear I meant roots as is the area of the plant that absorbs nutrients broken down by communities of symbiotic organisms
and honestly nothing wrong with contribooting with neps. theyre mind blowing plants, and the most interesting of the carnivorous plants IMO, though I know many would beg to differ

>>2231209
Waterwheel plants man
They can live their traps just as fast as a VFT but in water, which is like 800x denser than air

>>2231146
that was great info, I found the "whooping" noise interesting, as thats the noise modern people make when theyre excited. Think concerts, sports, ect. something good happens and everyone yells WOOOOOOOO
truly thought provoking

>>2231265
whaterwheels are cool in terms of functionality but they lack both the beauty of pitchers and the shock of flytraps making them a step above bladders in my honest opinion
by no means am I tryig to trash talk a plant though lets be real here. theyre still shelves above petunias

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only a month to go until my garden looks like this again for like 3 months.

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Which red flytrap is more vigorous, red piranha or maroon monster?

>>2231433
the corporate buildings in the back makes me wanna die

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>>2231543
those are flats.

>>2231553
is Dactylorzhia an easy orchid genus? Looking to get some to grow some under grow lights or something

>>2231553
Alright Bugguy, I'm getting ready. I wish I remembered to get my gopro stuff ready but I forgot, so all photos are coming from my shitty phone. I'll go through the greenhouses, butterfly exhibit, rainforest, the cycads and all the little nook and crannies nobody knows about(except for the marshland! The rains from last night woke up the fucking deerflies, so Imma nope from there).

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>>2231623
Dactylorhiza and Epipactis are pretty much the easiest orchids there are in terms of care.

they won't do well indoors though.

>>2231631
RIP
I have virtually no outdoor growspace right now
Time to buy another supermarket phal i guess.

>>2231630
if you're getting condensation on your lens within the greenhouses wait like 10 minutes.

>>2231636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjrO4_CJuW4

propagating them from seed indoors is also shit.

>>2231639
>they have to sterilize the seeds
>and then plant in sterile media
wew

>>2231643
with sterile air.

I'm about to set up a new terrarium for some rather rare mantids and unlike my others I wanna make this one pretty. It's gonna have a constant humidity of at least 80% and temperature of 27 °C. For light I can basically do anything.

What are some meme plants I could put in there that you couldn't keep in normal room conditions?

>>2231652
isn't 27C a little hot for mantids.

they have short lifespans, you'll end up shortening it even more with that.

>>2231659
Metallyticus splendidus. Gonna get 15 L3 larva and hopefully get 4 breeding pairs out of them.
And I'm gonna breed them so shorter, more productive life spans are a plus for me.

>>2231673
you'll probably want to look for indonesian plant species.

>>2231680
Just to be clear I'm only gonna put the plants in there to look nice because it's a fairly big terrarium (you can keep M. splendidus in groups) and it's more permanent than my others. The mantids don't care what is in there, it doesn't need to come from the same region they do. I just want to know if there is any cool stuff that would thrive in there that you couldn't have normally, some neat lowland rainforest orchid species or something.

>>2231705
I was considering cloud forest orchids but most of them won't be able to handle 27C.

vandaceous orchids should work, but they usually require a lot of light.

>>2231719
I'm back! Oh, was I supposed to take pictures? FUCK!

>>2231764
show us your haul

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>>2231764
>>2231719
Nah, I'm just kidding. This is me. I look a little down because I've still got a bit of a cold. I wasn't feeling much in the awe that I usually do here, but I'll give you some highlights.

Also commencing dump!

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>>2231767
I will in a second
>>2231768
So, first off, look at this fucking tree fern. A single leaf was a long as two of me stacked on top of eachother! Fucking massive!

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>>2231770
I'm about to have lunch, you'll want to move your head to see the correct orientation.

Look at the spikes on this palm!

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>>2231773
I'm a bit happier here!

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>>2231775
Also, no life like the salt life!

>>2231777
please stop posting so many selfies

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>>2231777
Holy fuck, the size on this elephant's foot tree is absolutely HUGE!
>>2231779
I don't normally take selfies. That's the first I've taken for a few months

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>>2231781
If you look closely at the trunk base's left side, there's a metal stick. That stick is where the name plate is.

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>>2231782
The amazon giant lilies look more regal in real life than they do in the picture books.

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can someone here identify mosses?

I bought this one as Schistostega pennata, but I'm not sure if it really is this species.

I know it usually has 'Fissidens-like leaves', but I've also seen pics of it that look like my moss (liverwort like)

I know it's hard to identify mosses, but maybe someone of you guys knows what I have here

>>2231773
>those tiles.
triggered.

that's the kind of shit you'll find in a mortuary.
>>2231809
I think that's liverwort.

I have a tub standing in my shed with some soil in it, it's got the same shit you have growing all over it.

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>>2231819
The greenhouse is old as dirt.
>>2231787
Since I'm back, I'll post a few more.
Madagascar desert forest has a shitton of redheaded agamas! The males are so pretty!

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>>2231821
Here it is, a few Ctenitis sloanei! The critically endangered Florida Tree Fern!

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>>2231821
should've stole one.

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>>2231823
Should I? I could've easy cut a leaf and either pressed it or used it for spores

>>2231824
The garden don't care, they're a nonnative species. I actually did try to catch them. They'll hide in the cactus spines before you get 10 feet in front of them

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>>2231826
I decided not to. It probably was a mistake

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>>2231828
Damn it feels hella nice that I live in a place where I can see such a diversity in Palm trees.

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>>2231819
I had to run outside in the rain to get it, I hope you're happy.

this shit appears on pretty much every soil that's been waterlodged for a long time.

>>2231828
can't you just buy one online?

most supposingly 'rare' plants are pretty easy to get.

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>>2231835
>>2231831
Nah, most rare plants(including this fern and most of our epiphytic orchids are protected like all hell. And unless you go to a local fair, they're impossible to find.

>>2231831
Nobody was at this part of the garden. It always feels nice here because it is quiet.

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>>2231843
>tfw Angiopteris evecta is easier to get than Ctenitis sloanei.

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>>2231843
Another rare species, but there's a story behind this plant. This is a coontie. The only cycad native to the US. It's found throughout Florida, and the extreme Georgis and Alabama border. They were once cultivated and farmed by Indians, that used it's seeds for making a 'bread'. This quickly caught on by settlers and up until the seventies, it was pretty much gone. So it became a rush effort to bring back the coontie which was a huge success. But not without it's repercussions. Miami-dade County was once the home to a butterfly that only laid it's eggs on the Coontie. The butterfly is called the Atala butterfly. When the Coontie was nearly wiped out, the Atala butterfly was gone too, however the insect did not recover like the plant.

The butterfly was extinct for decades until the 90's when in the cycad exhibit people saw caterpillars on the coontie leaves. It was indeed those of the Atala butterfly. They're now protected and shit

. Now here's the part that pisses me off. I grew up next to a patch of woods. In the back of the woods, coonties were everywhere. And so were the butterflies. When I was in Elementary school, the back part of the woods were sold to become huge houses. They bulldozed everything, and most of the coonties were gone. I had no power to stop them, and I was so mad that they were tearing down those woods.

The housing market crashed, and there were empty lots everywhere. But now they returned and new houses are being completed slowly.

I'm 19 and I have yet to see those butterflies.
>I hate Miami sometimes.

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>>2231819
>>2231833
thanks
shit, what a bummer
I really thought that it was the glowing moss, because it reflected the light really interestingly when I tried it.

>every soil that's been waterlodged for a long time.
and that's what was confusing too
the liverworts I know are all growing on really wet soil, but apparently, the one I got shouldn't be kept too wet.

"keep it pretty dark realtively dry, because I've killed whole patches of it when I kept it too wet a few times", the seller told me

well, at least it wasn't too expensive and I have a nice looking liverwort for my terrariums now

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>>2231866
some species look pretty nice.

they're terrible to deal with though, it's one of the few plants that doesn't care about glyphosate.

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I live near Seattle and just moved into a townhouse with a decent little patio and large windows downstairs. What plants should a beginner like me be growing here?

I mostly want to make my patio and living room look comfy as fuck, by using plants.

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>>2231883
I forgot to mention. Fairchild was having a plant sale, and the hot topic was florida tree fern! I bought one, and I'm going to keep it alive. I don't want another endangered thing dying on me!

Also, I was getting attacked by fire ants as I took this picture.

>>2231927
youll want to start propagating it as soon as possible and sell them, there's no marked for them online so you set the price.

>>2231883
What

>>2231931
I have a gardening/landscaping company, one of the things it does is keep tiles clean.

glyphosate works for getting rid of most plants except liverwort.

>>2231930
I have to grow it first. I'm not that knowledgeable with plants, but it sounds "easy". The volunteer staff directed to me to a person they thought was godly at keeping this species. His instructions were:
>Give it a 2-4 gallon pot.
>Soil can have high alkalinity(because florida native) or use nursery mix high in peat.
>Proper watering should be gauged by the weight of the pot, it needs to be relatively heavy with water.
>The soil should be packed airtight when transplanted(I don't know what he means by this)
>And soil should cover the base of the trunk to promote growth

What do you think? I'm not saying I don't trust him, but some things I don't know and I'd feel safe to get some more explaination about his instructions.

>>2231947
I thought peat was acidic...

>>2231954
it is, he's probably confusing alkalinity with acidity.
>>2231947
>Soil can have high alkalinity
pretty much all species that live in low pH will do fine in neutral pH, any stock peat mix will literally work.
>(I don't know what he means by this)
it means you shouldn't fuck with the soil like a conifer, if you bare root them they die.
>And soil should cover the base of the trunk to promote growth
just dump sphagnum on top.

besides having the spores available these people don't appear to know what they're doing.

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Anyone have any idea what's growing with my sarrs?

>>2232097
Forgot location. Japan, Kanagawa prefecture.

>>2232100
It's the japanese tentacle monster hentai sundew

>>2232097
looks like some kind of Sarex

>>2232229
Carex*
god damnit

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I like this hybrid, it grows like it wants

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Cephalotus is still adapting to its new home.
Will it rot to death without previous warning? Only time will tell.

>>2232097
considering you're using sphagnum it's most likely a Schoenoplectus seedling.

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Oh kay! SERRUS STUFFS! .... fuuuc reeden!

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Thanks for the flower Sarracenia x readii

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>>2232318
Sarracenia purpurea is flowering too.
Would it be a good idea to pollinate both now?

>>2232287
This might be it. I will have to wait for it to flower and see what it is. But, it's spreading pretty fast. I ripped out three other ones and just left the one in the pic.

>>2232322
Flowering now? The fuck? They're spring bloomers. Do you live in Australia?

>>2232408
No, but I guess we're having a warm fall though.

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Is someone able to identify this plant?

>>2232602
What are you doing on 4chan, gramps?

>>2232606
i-it's my dad's hand

>>2232608
Sure it is, bub.

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>>2230320
I just bought this at a garden center for 4 bucks, any idea what species it may be?

>>2232635
Sarracenia purpurea crying for sunlight

>>2232635
a very sick purp or rosea

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>>2232635
Different view

>>2232612
It is
Do you know the plant?

>>2232639
>>2232637
They defenitely werent kept well. They were standing in wayer which im sure wasnt distilled

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>>2232641
It should look like this man

>>2232649
Wow thats beautiful. So youd say its a purp? What do you think my chances of beinging it back to health are?

>>2232669
Fairly high, just change the substrate, let it go dormant for now and next year it will start recovering.

>>2232672
>>2232672
Thats great news, do you recomend keeping it in a terarrium over winter?

>>2232703
No no no, they are temperate weather plants, they need to go dormant in winter and be exposed to full sunlight. It you take it outside now and let it in full sun it'll get sunburn but it's for the best.

>>2232649
Is that pure purp?

>>2232709
Purp x (purp x rubra) I think

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So, I potted the Ctenitis. This is my first. And I probably did a shit job of it too. What did I do wrong?

>>2232734
didn't I tell you not to remove any dirt from it's original clump.

>>2232735
I didn't, just a few thumps on the pot and pulled the whole thing out.

>>2232737
then why is it hanging to the side.

>>2232738
I don't know, it was leaning like that when I got it.

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>>2232744
make it stand upright, this isn't aesthetically pleasing

>>2232752
Okay

>>2232708
>>2232708
Okay, thanks. im going to pour over care guides when i get home. I live in zone 6 so my winters freeze deep. Should it come inside? I cant imagine it tolerates -20

>>2232783
Stick it in the refrigerator.

>>2232783
If it's a purp purp, it can take much much colder than -20. They can grow fine in the wild in Newfoundland

>>2232752
>>2232755
Will it start growing upright on it's own, eventually?

>>2232813
wasn't it already here? >>2231927

and yes unless you place the pot against a wall or something.

if it's leggy and hanging to the side it'll just look like a shitty weed that happened to pop up in one of your pots.

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>>2232820
It was leaning against the trunk. This is a picture of it when I brought it home

>>2232870
just attach it to a bamboo stick.

it should fix itself relatively fast.

>>2231433
Hey plont, your backyard reminds me of my Grandma's in Zeist. Its been years, I don't remember, is that a common backyard in NL or do you happen to live near there?

What are some woody plants that do well in low-light/indoors conditions? I was thinking:
>Schefflera
>Bamboo
>Lucky bamboo
>Chinese Elm
>Crassula
Anything else?

What do I need exactly to maintain indoor plants?
I got a lavender plant and peace lily.
Really all i got are some is a watering can and gardening sheers.
I also got a bag of potting soil and some plastic terracotta pots and saucers.
Is there anything else I should get, like fertilizer?

>>2233041
You have to go full retard to kill a peace lily. Those things don't die even when they're killed.

>>2233043
Yeah, I want it to thrive though

>>2233018
Ficus benjamina, Ficus elastica, Fatsia japonica, Chlorophytum comosmum

>>2233045
leave it alone and water. done

>>2232785
I did this my first year for the opposite reason (2011 had the hottest winter I remember) and it worked great.

>>2233280
>Hottest winter I remember
This past Christmas it was 70+ and 95% humidity. People were joking about having a Christmas cookout, the weather was that out of season. It was true suffering, especially when you have a dog that just loves sleeping on feet.

>>2233283
Man I remember threes blooming in January and wearing short sleeve on Christmas.
Then a friend took his Nepenthes outside and then we had an artic cold wave in February. Wonderful winter.

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>>2232977
I don't live anywhere near Zeist but that kind of garden is pretty normal here.

>>2233286
Trees* fuck

>>2233288
If I ever went to your garden, I'd definitely become hobbit.

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>>2233290
most maintained gardens look similar in the netherlands.

they're usually crowded because we don't cover the soil with gravel or bark like they do in the US.

>>2233296
Also people in my parents' neighborhood dont use organic fertilizer because getting your hands dirty is for peasants. There are usually a bunch of old pickup trucks with mexicans doing the yardwork lol

How stuoid is it to plant timber bamboo in your garden?

>>2233349
gardening isn't done by mexicans in western europe.
>>2233385
11/10

Anyone know an indoor plant that looks cute and grows quickly?
I wanna take a small little baby and see it grow up

>>2233400
Spider plants

>>2233415
I see.
I might be getting one of those anyway because I heard they were good for cleaning up the air.
But I was hoping more for vertical growth though

>>2233417
peperomia.

>>2233422
Thanks, I'll check that out

>>2233385
Fuck bamboo anything that isn't in a giant planter or encased in concrete. Those things will bust through your yard and sprout anywhere. Don't even trust the "clumping" bamboo. You snip that thing once and it goes ape shit.

>>2233400
Fittonias, Wandering Traveler/Jew, Spider Plants if you have a bright spot, Ficus

>>2233417
It requires quite a few plants per room per person to actually cycle air. A couple spider plants isn't doing squat.

>>2233385
Not stupid. It gives a nice woody aesthetic to your garden and is easy to take care of. Also, it grows rapidly, so you'll be able to support a giant panda in your backyard in no time

>>2233485
:^)

>>2233439
even weaponized concrete doesn't stop bamboo.

it doesn't need sunlight, it feeds off your misery.

>>2233439
How do I go about identifying a species of bamboo? A neighbor has a variety that has been in the same spot for fifteen years. The clump is only about four foot in diameter and as tall as a two story building. Hasn't sent out any runners.

>>2233503
it's probably a Fargesia, they tend to stay in a clump but they're still horrible.

>>2233489
I don't doubt, I love bamboo but after having to rip out a bunch of it in my parent's yard, I have my reservations on it. Still wouldn't mind a big planter of it far removed from dirt.

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>>2233583
you can't remove bamboo once it's settled.

it doesn't give a shit about glyphosate, has major nutrient storages that'll last it for decades and the roots are as sharp as a blade and as tough as old boots.

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>>2230406
Update

Just as a broad generalization, how easy is it to keep cycads alive?

>>2233657
Easy Peasy, Just let drain it really

Good drainage is all you need

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My rebecca soper is catching snails now.

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And it'd be wonderful if DC XL grew a bit...

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>>2233911
Well desu I think it's grown a lot since I bouth it in june but it's still fucking small

>>2233648
lookin gr8 m8
what species you rockin?

>>2234047
left and right rear is Colocasia esculenta, left is blue Hawaiian right is black magic variety
in the middle theres a small water garden featuring Pistia stratiotes. directly behind is vinca vine, just cause I had it lying around.
up front is sarracenia purpurea subsp. purpurea.
the ground cover is fern moss from amazon
not perfect, but this is my first real attempt at a terrarium. I have plenty to learn

>>2230320
If I livein Florida, do I need a terrarium? It's super humid and mildly hot all year long.

>>2234064
Not sure about flava because it's one of those picky Nepenthes, but you could have a x ventrata (the hybrid that is sold everywhere) without any problems.

>>2234072
Maybe other more colorful and also common nepenthes like hookeriana and bloody mary as well.

>>2234064
The little I've studied about Florida's flora north of me, I've noticed we get a lot of native pitcher plants and sundews. I'll look more in it, but I got to get going.

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Newbie indoor plant advice needed.

I just moved into an apartment and I have an empty small bookcase that I was thinking of putting a cute small plant in each shelf. In my excitement I bought these two guys and went home, only to realize that I completely forgot to ask if they were ok for low-light since the bookcase face a darker corner of the apartment.

I know one is a succulent but I'm not sure what the flowering one is. Are they both ok for lowlight indoor plants? And could you lead me to the way of other nice looking indoor lowlight plants that stay relatively small? (I'm in Yurope of that helps narrow down plants)

>>2234064
If you're in Florida, you basically can't grow highland Neps. Unless you have some sort of reliably-cooled basement or something, the likes of flava will simply melt. Lowlands and intermediates, you'll have a much better shot with (most of the easy beginner shit is intermediate/lowland-friendly anyway).

>>2233900
Nice. Slugs and snails sometimes escape my plants' traps though :/

>>2233925
>>2233911
Pretty smol xd

>>2234181
Yeah I usually just kill them if I see them near my plants but these two seem to have been retarded and drowned there.

>>2234182
At least NOW is exhibiting DC XL characteristics. And since it's grown a bit I'm feeding it with Stegobium paniceum. Every trap that develops I feed, I hope that next year I'll reach a decent size and not 2 cm

>>2234088
The one on the left is kalanchoe calandiva, the one on the right... Echeveria pollox?
I wouln't say they are lowlight indoor plants, most succulents like a few hours of sunlight and to feel the season pass.

Low light apartment plants: Pothos, Spider plants.

>>2233648
im this guy, does anyone really work with terrariums here?
Im looking for info on how to keep the soil/water clean. Ive been recommended woodlice and earthworms. How many are needed for a 10gal? also if a worm does, are there species that will eat it before it smells?
Also if possible, is there a way to increase the overall earthy smell produced by it?

>>2234064
You can grow most lowland species and hybrids. There are some very nice clones of ampullaria and rafflesiana that you could get. You can also grow any warm temperate species found on the continent. You have a lot of options living in Florida.

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My purp that refuses to be purple

>>2234757
You should ask r/SavageGarden for advice.

>>2234813
Yeah, time to get it inside in a terrarium and feed it with ham!

>>2234820
Ham? Always use chicken you idiot

>>2234883
Oh no wonder it keeps growing green

Fuckin pests turnin my cacti brown! I scraped off the gunk, but it keeps comin back!

>>2234883
no no no youre supposed to use ground beef
also water it with tap water. the chlorine and added minerals help strengthen roots

Hello, I want to get a plant that will attract beetles, but I don't have a garden, I currently live in a shithole room on a second floor, but I do know that there are beetes in here.

Is there an specific plant that may attract them or should I set up a small tree (bonsai?) and attract beetles with fruit?

>>2235150
fungicide that shit

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Anyone identify this leaf?
They all came from the same tree. The more exotic ones came from near the bottom of the tree, regular looking one came from an overhanging branch that started about halfway up the trunk.

Chopped another one just like it down a year and a half ago, nothing is touching it.

I'd say the tree is about twenty to thirty feet tall, and it sags to one side.
Base of trunk is so wide I can't wrap my arms around it.
At the foot of the Appalachian Mountain, Maryland.

>>2235331
the left one looks like birch

>>2235379
Definitely not birch, but thanks for responding.

>>2235501
Fuckin mulberry. Spreads like a pest. The berries are edible, but apparently there's another tree that looks exactly like it that is poison, so whatever. If it is mulberry, the bark will be smooth and tan, and it'll have green berries that'll turn red or purple as they mature. They look a bit like raspberries I guess.

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>>2235506
Das it mane

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guys what do you recomend as substratum for orchids? i have read moss, coal, hummus and tree bark and also what do you use as fertilizer
In the meanwhile ill upload photos from the species i have

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>>2235787

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>>2235789

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>>2235790

last one, any tips on how to take care of this beautyes is very much welcome, i have inherited them recently

>>2235787
depends on the species.

there's no all-round substrate for them.

>>2235793
Do you know a good book or database so i can check mine? No idea what they are

>>2235802
I'll just tell you about the base materials.

sphagnum, perlite, cocos husk, pine bark (large and small), lava rock, peat.

sphagnum is used to retain moisture and to keep the soil airy, the downside is that it'll make the soil rot way quicker and it tends to pack down over time and choke the roots.

perlite is used for the same reason, but it doesn't pack down, the downside is that it traps air bubbles and thus floats if you were to put it in water.

cocos husk keeps the soil airy and retains plenty of moisture, the downside is that it never 'settles', it'll always stay loose.

pine bark keeps the soil airy, doesn't retain much moisture.

lava rock retains moisture, keeps the soil airy, doesn't decompose but much like coco husk doesn't settle.

peat is only used for terrestrial orchids, like Cymbidiums.

different combinations of these types of soil are used to fit the needs of every species, if they need a lot more water throw in sphagnum, if they need a little just add perlite, etc.

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Absolute and utter newfag here; in fact, first time entering this board.

Is this a good position for my Rubber plant or will the cold draft harm it? My dorm room is East-facing if that's relevant, so it should get sunlight in the morning.

>>2235961
Doesn't that thing grow up to 30 meters? I've never seen it as an indoor plant...

>>2235980
I don't think it will grow that much in 9-10 months, lmao.

>>2235986
Well anyway, it's a resilient plant and if it gets a few hours of sunlight beibg that young might be enough.

>>2235989
That's fine, but I'm wondering if the open window (like in the pic) might harm it somehow if the room is warm with the heating on, and there's cold air coming from outside during winter.

I've also read that you're not supposed to move around plants too much, so I want to find the sweet spot for it.

I completely lack common sense desu.

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>>2235506
>>2235331
>Mulberry
Interestingly, the related Ficus carica shows a very similar "leaf polymorphism", especially if comparing "seedling" to "adult" stage
Pic related are all from the same seed batch (seeds from single same fruit) but at different stages, sprouted last October so had a slow indoor winter start in the beginning. Top 4.5 months, middle 8 mo, bottom 11.5 mo. old

Any advice for getting rid of fungal gnats? They larvas are destroying my cactus seedlings.

>>2236334
pinguiculas work well against them

>>2236347

Luckily, I think I may have succeeded in sprouting a couple pinguicula from seed. At least I hope they're pings and my soil didn't get some impure seeds in it.

>>2236334
I'm experiencing this at this very moment. There's always 1 or two in my sealed pots and I have no idea where they're coming from. What are you growing anyway?

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When all of my Sarracenia are going to sleep, x readii grows more beautiful than ever.

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Sawtooth seem to be the first Dionaea to enter dormancy.

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Capensis need a bit of love too

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Finally, typical dionaea, still growing and multiplying.

https://youtu.be/-evb-nmBMVU

>>2236420
420blazitfagot

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>>2236357
wide strips of fly paper work too.

>>2236377

Mostly succulents. I had a little USB powered terrarium that came with various cactus seeds. It was completely covered, but somehow one gnat got in and laid eggs. The larva are devestating to young succulents. They just eat the root hairs of most plants, which limits growth, but succulents, they tunnel their way through them.

Hello,
I own a venus flytrap.
Is it normal that some of the traps are turning black?
It's growing new ones,just that some turn black and die over time even though they caought nothing.

>>2236483
just trim off if the trap is completly black, don't cut and live leaves.
it happens, if trap is used 3 times or so it will turnblack too, just using too much energy.
doesn't matter except when your traps die rapidly. then your plant may be rotten en you just gotta dry out the ground before watering it again.

>>2236483
Post a pic.
They're entering dormancy now anyway

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>>2236497
Oh,okay.
Just got scared a little.
I like this plant a lot and I don't want it to die.
It usually sits in 2 cm of rainwater
>>2236500
Pic related

>>2236501
Looks ok, it's losing its old foliage and growing smaller leaves because it's getting ready for winter.
Remember to change the substrate in winter to prevent compaction that can lead to root rot.

>>2236504
So it's just renewing itself constantly.

>>2236508
Yep, that's how flytraps grow.
You can see mine is doing the same >>2236419

>>2236509
Nice to know.
The only information I found only regarding this was "Shit is fucked it's going to die"
I'll make sure to change the soil.

>>2236513
Just wait until late January or early February for that, it's when they are more "asleep" and won't even notice it.

>>2236501
Grow that shit outside

>>2236562
It's usually outside,but currently it's too cold for it.

>>2236566
>Too cold for it.
How cold are we talking? It NEEDS the cold to go dormant.

>>2236574
-5°C in the night and maybe 6°C in the morning

>>2236587
Can handle that no problem. Maybe it'll need a cold greenhouse in winter months tho. Or fridge dormancy.

did we reach bump limit?

>>2237140
no you dumb twat

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today I "harvested" the first wave of my Arums

>>2236566
>>2236562
Different guy, any tips for zone 8a?
Had a flytrap last year but it died over winter inside (all the leaves gradually blackened between Oct and Dec and there was no sign of life by March so I tossed it)
Can't really plant it in the ground outside as I have no place that is wet enough in summer (dry periods may just happen and I can't be arsed to keep it soaking wet over several months), and while most winters won't reach -10°C in their coldest nights (we've been constantly above that since 2012), once a few years there will be a Siberian cold spell which can go down to -18 at worst, and continuous frost even during the day for up to 2 weeks in a row.
Putting it inside over winter at constant +15-20 is apparently not an option either because they seem to need a mandatory cold period in order to not die. I just have no place that is 0-10 for several months (other than the fridge), so maybe they are simply not cultivatable here?
Or maybe I should try a mixed cultivation where I keep it potted over summer (easier to maintain water) and planted outside in winter under a mulch layer (easier to maintain cool temperature)?

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I came across this plant on a walk, and I was wondering if anyone could identify it. Thanks!

>pruning bald cypress in lawn
>On a whim try to make some softwood cuttings, dip them in rooting hormone and put them in a box with potting soil and 100% humidity
>A month later all 10 have calluses
Suoer hype to have a bunch of cypress to play around with.

>>2237664

It's a type of celosia. Not sure on the exact name for it, but the garden center I work for gets them in as a fall annual.

>>2237654
I've had Sarracenia in a pot outside and they survive the winter without any issues.

>>2237654
Dormancy in the fridge is easy to induce for flytraps. Just remove it from the substrate, put it in a zip lock bag with dry sphagnum and a bot of fungicide. This way it can go dormant for 3 months no prob.

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Bump with a cute pot

>>2238759
The more I see your posts, the more I want to go out and start growing VFTs again.

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>>2239182
Thank you, I try my best.

>>2239379
Stop being so god damn good at this, you are fueling my self-esteem issues

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>>2239396
Oh well, to be honest I've been experimenting a lot with them (killing dozens in the process) until I found what works best. Here is my last failed experiment, I killed two of them (Southwest Giant, which I don't like and B52, which I have multiple ones)
I just hope the surviving ones recover and reproduce enough.

>>2239406
Share your knowledge

>>2239435
Ok, let's see:
The most important thing is their substrate. It has to be aerated. This is vital, if it compacts it might lead to root rot and the plant would die.
What I found out that works best:
-Peat moss, pine bark/needles/shavings, quartz sand 2,1,3: This one is the easiest to come by, cheap and convenient. But is also the first one that compacts, it's easy to overwater and lasts the least (2 years at most)
-Live sphagnum moss: My favorite. It's very decorative, renews itself and protects your plants from infections, virtually impossible to overwater them with it. The downsides: You need to live in a moist area to keep it alive, it may suffocate young plants.
-Dry sphagnum moss: What I always recommend, it lasts more than peat moss (4 years or even more) very hard to compact, doesn't prevent infections as good as live one, but of course it doesn't require mainteinance.

Water: less than 90 ppm. Distilled,rain, osmotized and some bottled brands (usually the ones advertised with very low mineral content) work well. Measure your tap water, it might be good too.

Light: They need full sun exposure, at least 5 hours per day. But what I noticed is that they tend to lose their colors in summer when it's hot and solar radiaton is at max. I usually read autors mention that they develop their colors under full sun exposure, but those people always seem to be brits. In places with real sunlight they develop nicer colors placed under a light shade cloth (30% shade is enough). Dionaeas with lighter colors seem to be the best hunters tho.

They need their dormancy perdiod. In my experience the more inactive they are in winter, the more vigorous they'll grow in spring. Best season I had was after a fridge induced dormancy.

Feeding: If you feed them live prey (1/3 of the trap's surface is what works best) they grow much faster and healthier. Some people say they don't need it, of course they do, why would they waste energy producing traps if they didn't?

>>2239450
Cultivars:
-Non functional cultivars are shit, slow growing and weak.
-Red ones are way slower than green ones, the only notable exception is maroon monster. Also they get sunburn easily.
-Giants are usually faster and more vigorous than regular dionaea. Southwest giant is the only exception that I found to this.
-My recomendations are Sawtooth, Low giant and towering giant. They are very vigorous and resilient, actually look like their names and are easy manteinance
-Short teeth cultivars reproduce a lot

Seeds:
Flowering will weaken your flytrap a lot. Always chose strong plants for this.
Growing from seed will take a lot of time, you can skip their first dormancy to accelerate the process. If you have the patiente you can feed them small ants, aphids and similar insects, they'll grow faster. also if you mix two cultivars don't expect a 50/50 offspring. They will always be more similar to the mother (this is true for all plants tho) and it's mostly true that they won't innerit all the desirable traits.

A few more things:
Tall dionaea are the best hunters. Spider and Towering Giant are the ones that I've seen getting the more prey.

They are prone to aphid infection, water and cheap vodka 1/1 with a dash of dish soap works great, but be careful if you use live sphagnum as a substrate, it's very sensitive to this.

Don't overwater if you use peat moss, keep the substrate slightly moist, not waterlogged.

And I think that's all, I hope you find it useful.

>>2239450
>>2239453
>>2239457
Thanks! Much appreciated and useful

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Identify this bush plz

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>>2239513
>what is the most common decorative bush on earth

>>2239515
Well what is?

>>2239518
buxus.

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>>2239519
Thanks

>>2239513
It's called Bukszpan

>>2239588
>common name
let's not getting into that game anon

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Any idea what this is? Someone is giving it away in my local buy/sell group, want to make sure it's not toxic to pets before I take it.

>>2239780
Some sort of monocot. Kind of bamboo-y but not quite.

>>2239802

New bread boys

It's just my first time in here, but I'll rate some of these plants for you guys.

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>>2238759
Beautiful

>>2231024
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>>2232285
Weird, but good nevertheless

>>2230723
>>2230406
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>>2231520
>>2231851 geez anon
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>>2236418
Cute

>>2239804
The thread didn't even hit Image Limit, why would you do a new thread?

>>2240141
Bump limit new friend.

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I recently bought a succulent, which wasn't in too good of a condition to begin with, but it looks like it's rotting at the roots. What do?