What's your opinion on lawns? Are they a waste of water,

>>2215922
They're visually pretty nice, although personally I think at least some wild overgrown grass should be left. Not sure how a lawn is a waste of money though, all you have to do is mow it regularly?

>>2215922


What else could my dogs play on?

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>>2216223
Artificial grass is superior to real grass.

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anyone that thinks they're pointless has clearly never taken a nap on one.

large lawns are an insult to gardening space though.

>>2216226
Yes, scorching hot if the sun gets on it for more than 5 minutes, just perfect!

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>>2216226
>anyone that thinks this clearly doesn't own a lawn.

artificial grass looks fake and ugly no matter how high the quality is, and it costs 50$+ per square metre.

a small lawn would set you back about 2k.

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>>2216229
Nice would love to see some cats eating birds on that

>>2216229
So what you're saying is that
1.) you have barbed wire fence because you're afraid of the rapefugees but still want them in
2.) too poor even to do anything with that small space
3.) you support everything merkel does

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>>2216232
cats don't leave my garden with a chance of survival ;^)

>>2216235
I doubt it. I'm mastutbating thinking of all the birds that have died in your lawn.

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>>2216234
> you have barbed wire fence because
to keep them in, not to keep them out.
>too poor even to do anything with that small space
if I did anything with that small space my garden would look too crowded, and where am I supposed to sit when friends/family visit me without it?

>supporting germany
>2016.

[insert engine of the eu meme]

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>>2216237
it's chloroplastida.tumblr now.

>>2216238
I have two acres of land I don't know what to do with. Do Europeans ever have over 0.4 acres?

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>>2216241
>Do Europeans ever have over 0.4 acres?
yeah most people outside of the city own atleast 2 acres, I think 4 is about the average.

depending on your soil you could just dig out a massive pond, I used to have one with a small quay, had all sorts of animals living around it like kingfishers and a massive school of Leuciscus idus melanotus.

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I mow about 7 acres a week, plus all the roadsides. I don't mind the work I'm just riding around on my old ass tractor drinking beer. When it's done everything looks nice and smells nice.
Just last week I counted 80+ killdeer in my side yard, it was pretty peaceful watching them. If my grass was a foot tall they wouldn't flock there. Usually I have a big softball game for my kids bday party, I couldn't do that without a big lawn. The main reason is pride in ownership, everything looks so much better when it's mowed down and clean.
>pic related, my 53 ford that I mow with every week.

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>>2216248
I use a Shibaura CM214 for work, just sold it though, needed something that wasn't as bulky because my company does the maintenance of 100+ lawns in some vacation parks, it couldn't fit through fences.

my new mower is a 94 cm wide professional Husqvarna, there's only 2 of them in the country.

>>2216249
>couldn't fit through fences
>that wasn't as bulky
I know what you mean, a 6' deck is nice on wide open spaces, but sucks around trees. I will eventually get a zeroturn and retire my tractor, but for now it works.

>>2216257
zeroturns aren't much better, they're decent around trees but they're shit in sharper corners so you'll have to do those with a weedwacker instead, with a deck in the front you can just place your deck in the corner, reverse a bit and turn.

I tried one out yesterday, I hate not being able to see the mowing deck, and most of them are weak as fuck, they'll die if you hit a rock or a branch.

>>2216261
The only tight spots are next to the house, I use a push mower there because it's easier and looks better.
Thanks for the tip.

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>>2216263
the machine I used to have (Shibaura CM214) is probably what you're looking for, they're relatively fast and powerful enough (21-25 HP diesel) to cut even the tallest grass, trees shouldn't be a problem either since you don't have to shift gears on it so you can reverse it freely, and the steering is hydraulic so you don't have to bust a nut steering it either.

they're pretty expensive though.

you can't steer zeroturns with 1 hand, and they're usually mulchers so they're slow as fuck and you need to watch out with the length of the grass otherwise it'll look like shit or the engine gives in.

if all hope is lost you could always just buy a semi-professional push mower and wear rollerskates behind it.

>>2216265
>if all hope is lost you could always just buy a semi-professional push mower and wear rollerskates behind it.
Kek.
It's still a few years out so I'll have plenty of time to look for a deal. In the meantime I'll continue to use my woods mower. Everytime I drag that heavy bitch, my yard gets a little flatter.

>>2216281
>Everytime I drag that heavy bitch, my yard gets a little flatter.
modern lawns are bumpy as fuck due to the robot mower fad.

what people don't understand is that these brainless machines bump over the same holes day on end and create hills everywhere so their lawn ends up looking like a golf course.

>>2216287
You're actually a retard

>>2216305
Bugguy has a PhD in gardening dude.

>>2216226

>hurr durr lets put down millions of square feet of plastic that breaks down and needs to be replaced every 5 years, it's great for the environment and totally won't raise the heat index of every city guys

no.

>>2216323
On the other hand it saves 100% of the water and antiweed herbicides you would have had to use in those 5 years. I wonder what the research numbers have to say about its environmental effect though.

>>2216329

at least water is a renewable resource and most commercially available pesticides have a fairly short lifespan before they become inert. don't get me wrong there's plenty of things that aren't good about traditional lawns, but i highly doubt putting down sheets of fancy plastic is in any measure better.

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>>2216307
biology/botany, they scrapped traditional Agricultural Education in 1990, and being a gardener/landscaper was given free as job title in 2000 so you no longer need that anyway.
>>2216329
>and antiweed herbicides
weeds still grow in artificial lawns.

We don't have a lawn anymore. It recovered after my labrador died now we have a kelpie.

>>2216355
the piss of old dogs doesn't harm lawns as much as that of younger dogs.

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>>2216335
>at least water is a renewable resource
not in most civilized places in the world it isn't

>>2216341
Hello bugguy. I am an anon who's been browsing this board for a year or so now, and I must say that you've really caught my eye. Your knowledge of plants and anthropoids is quite impressive. I would love to learn from the best, as my lawn and garden seem to be failing me. Would you be willing to come to America and fuck me? I find you very attractive, so it would be free of charge.

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>>2216377
no thanks I prefer 2D girls.

>>2216377
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>>2216232
>bugguy fan club in full effect

>>2215922
Fuck them and HAs because I got fined for not having a perfect green lawn in the middle of god forsaken southern california

>>2216393
>being this butthurt
>defending yourself

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>>2216377
Is there anyway I can change you mind? I'm a hot, virgin, autistic 21 year old.

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>>2216401
post more bugs.

>>2216406
where is the bug???

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>>2216409
I don't own any bugs anymore.

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>>2216406
I'm broke. That's my only bug.

>>2216397
>hurrr durrr you mad!
Really nigger?

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>>2216415
tarantula slings are pretty cheap.

>>2216412
I embiggened it so I could see the bug and I just stared at a boring hand for a while :((( THX A LOT

>>2216417
Hey you're the only mad one buddy. I'm just over here shooting birds and lizards with a bb gun

>>2216426
>you mad cuz I said so
Apparently the bugguy fan club only attracts the brightest of the bunch.
It was an observation faggot. Get over yourself, you aren't worth the effort.

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>>2216425
oh don't worry there's about 332000 genetically distinct bacteria on the human hand.

>>2216431
You're the only one in the fan club guy you seem to be obsessed with defending him

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>>2216423
I guess I never really looked into it. What kind of cages to use and what feed. I was at an reptile expo a few days ago and did see some cheap slings, but to be honest, I like other spider and arachnids more than T's.

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>>2216434
tupperware is your friend.

orb weavers require window frame shaped enclosures, they're hard to find and annoying to build, most people just let large Nephila roam freely in their house.

>>2216433
>defending him
Show me a post where I defended him.
Unlike you, I don't reply every time he posts. That's why you are in the super special fan club skippy, because you get so butthurt just by him being here.
Are all of his fans this slow of mind?

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>>2216442
he doesn't just reply once, he usually replies up to 5-8 times.

>>2216442
You're literally defending him by getting upset over people trolling him. Are you actually retarded?

>>2216443
>durr I can b8 but as soon as someone does it to me I get offended
This isn't your safe space

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>>2216446
>but as soon as someone does it to me
people wouldn't mind your baiting if it weren't stale and boring as fuck, you're literally kidding no one except yourself.

>>2216447
Just like yours. It's repetitive. It never changes.

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>>2216448
is that why you keep replying.

>>2216450
Which is why you also keep replying to me. We are on the same level.

>>2216452
im just being polite t b h senpai

>>2216445
>You're literally defending him by getting upset over people trolling him.
Again, it was an observation. That is all. I can assure you, not once did I feel angry in any way shape or form.
Since we are on the subject of getting angry, why do you get so upset whenever he posts? If it bothers you that bad why don't you filter him?
Regardless, I'm done spoonfeeding the mentally impaired. You can tell yourself I'm mad all you want, he'll you can put it in the annual "I hate bugguy newsletter" for all I care.

>>2216455
You call me mentally impaired. Yet here you are still defending him and denying it vehemently. You're still the only upset person here.

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>>2216455
he uses phone internet to ban evade so he can't filter me.

>>2216454
It's because I'm under your skin and you can't get me out familia.

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>>2216459
dream on.

>>2216458
I wish I had a cell phone with Internet. I have old flip phone and laptop.

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>>2216460
Look my hornwort is about to flower.

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>>2216462
it's late, mine flowered months ago.

I think my turtle ate most of it.

>>2216457
>Yet here you are still defending him and denying it vehemently
Actually, what I'm doing is replying to you. I like to think of it as community service. Kind of like how McDonald's hires waterheads like you, makes them feel normal.
I'm not interested in joining your little fan club so stop harassing me Corky.

>>2216465
Actually McDonald's doesn't hire them anymore. Even Walmart has stopped.

>>2216464
What's your experience with aquatic plants? Have a few questions.

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>>2216468
some of the gardens my company maintains have ponds, and I used to low scale sell/grow aquatic plants commercially.

>there's a pond in this garden in the back.

>>2216467
No shit. Luckily for the anon I was talking too Goodwill still hires retards

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>>2216474
This is from about a week ago. Aponogeton crispus. Do you know if I just cut these plantlets off and plant? They have more roots now. Also the flowers are going away and looks like there's seeds on them now. Pic incoming.

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>>2216479
The seeds. Some say let them fall off and grow and others say cut off and put in wet paper towel till they root.

>>2216226

My dogs would rip it up.

We used to reserve a 4x4 patch of grass on our property because it had a rabbits nest that would be used every year and police came to our door and told us if we didn't mow it we would be fined.

Why the hell would they care? It wasn't some upscale neighborhood. Neighbors weren't very close to us. No venomous snakes or anything. It was only like a foot. I'm still mad about that. As a kid we would leave for a month on vacation and our backyard would just go wild and it was fun as fuck because it was like a jungle(had a neighbor do our front lawn). Id love to let most of my yard grow crazy and plant a bunch of high plants but I live much closer to people and itd just look trashy.

>>2216479
snip off the part connecting them and plant the little plantlets.. the seeds will probably get eaten if you have fish so I'd try sprouting them out of the tank.

>>2216479
if your fish aren't eating them leave them be, it gives a natural look to the plant.

I'm only familiar with hardy pond plants, not aquarium plants.
>>2216489
>Why the hell would they care?
to set an example, if they allow one person to let their garden grow wild the others will start complaining.

>>2216509
It's not an offense in the United States. Only if you live in some weird fuck housing development division or forced to join the shittiest organization knows as HOA and forced to pay fees. Even then it isn't law.

>>2216555
Lots of city ordinances prohibit you from letting your grass grow out and shitting up the place. HOA's are not the only people who expect you to not live like a pig.

>>2216558
I only follow federal law and haven't gotten in trouble and shit on the police many times.

>>2216555
if it's not against the law you don't need to actually do it, it's not against the law here either so most of my street and any street for that matter is overgrown.