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Let's have a pet bird thread
Post your birds, give advice etc

Would an African grey get along with other speicies?
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Pearly Birb
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lock down that stabilizer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q6utsksoFY
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guys, i have a budgie that i cant/dont take of properly. whats the proper way to rehome a budgie?
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I am thinking about a bird. How often do they shit? Can you train them to go in a certain place or am I just going to be picking up shit every fifteen mins all over the house?
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>>2144981
depends on what bird. but most birds shit multiple times a day and usually go in their cage. but you should still expect poop around where they play
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Just chilling with his toys
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thinking of getting an Indian ringneck from a local breeder, problem is it seems very few breeders provide the birds sex. How does one go about getting that verified since only interested in a male. Thanks
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Ech
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>>2145799
http://indianringneck.com/sexing/
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>>2146320
you play rust??
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>>2143862
Dont mix parrot species. Give all birds their own space.
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My 13 year old sun conure absolutely refuses to stop laying eggs. She keeps fucking plucking all of her chest feathers in a sorry attempt to form a nest and I'm worried she's going to cause permanent damage and never grow feathers there again.

I've tried leaving the eggs in for a while until she ignores them, I've tried switching eggs out with the fake stone ones, and a few other things but she won't stop. I'm worried she's gonna fucking dehydrate/decalcify/demineralize herself by laying all these eggs.

Probably gonna call the vet soon because this shits getting out of hand.
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>>2148072
>sorry attempt to form a nest
what if you give her nesting material?
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>>2148072
limit light exposure, put her to bed early (she probably thinks its mating season), give her lots of calcium additives, (cuttle fish bone, vitamin additives to her water) and make sure she is not petted on the back or has something rub on her back (like a perch or cozy hut in her cage) because that stimulates her and may lead to that behavior. I hope that works anon.
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>>2148302
Actually did try that, she just manages to rip stuff up so finely that it all ends up underneath the cage grating.

>>2148323
Been doing the early to bed stuff too, 5 a clock in the afternoon (it gets dark here around 8), but leaving my cockatiel awake because he's not causing any problems, I wonder if him being awake and singing is doing something?

I never pet her on the back because I'm aware of what it means, I mostly just do head scratches, and I don't think it's anything in the cage. Been adding the vitamin drops to the water, yeah.

Made an appointment yesterday after posting, I'll find out whats up. Thanks for the help though, both of you.
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>>2144093
Pokémon monopoly? Patrician taste my nigga
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What is a good beginner bird? Where can I find care sheets/ breeders? I assume petco and petsmart are bad to get birds from
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I've had a GCC for nearly a year now. He was shy at first, but became very friendly to me and my family members pretty quickly. He's also been friendly with complete strangers - he'd accept head scratches and such.

Recently though, that's changed. He's suddenly gotten extremely aggressive towards strangers. He'd fly across the room to bite at them, even if they were far away and not doing anything. he's still friendly to the family however.

We got him when he was 4 months old, so he's a year and a few months old. And this is happening as he is finishing up his first molt.

Anyone know what might be causing the aggression and how to fix it?
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>>2148799

puberty
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>>2148803
>>>2148799 (You)
>puberty
I was under the impression that I'd have one more year till that, guess I was wrong.
Do I just cage him when visitors are over and wait for this phase to pass? Or can I do anything to get him friendly again?
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>>2148829

anywhere around 1-2 years but i'm not sure, all mine does is flirt with me a little sometimes since it happened and there was a month where she was more stubborn, independent and nipped a couple of times but not hard
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>>2148777
Personally think its hard to say. Remember birds can live a long time.
maybe think about what you want from a bird and how much time you are willing to spend looking after it.
Id love to have a caique as they seem like they'd be fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxh5nE5hgBM
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>>2145799
Oh man. I would fuck the living shit out of that green bird. I've never felt this way before--and I feel a bit wrong to admit it--but I need to put my dick in that bird's butt. Please tell me the breed.
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>>2143862
My pic related green friend had a girlfriend and she died a week ago. He's not singing anymore and eats very little. What do I do? Do I get a new girl bird?
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>>2149255
so sad
does the cat play with your birds ?
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>>2149547
Not really, the male bird just comes to her and climbs all over and then they chill. She's not agressive or something. The bird chills more with the cat since his bird gf died.
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>>2149255
yea I think they need to have a bond so either spend more time with him or get a mate for him.
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>>2149760
ha, imagine if he bonded with your cat
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>>2148777
get a quaker or something smaller like a parrotlet. Regardless of your choice, you gotta put the time in and bond with it.
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I had to put in a window AC unit to my bedroom because it has been getting too hot and it is an add on room with horrible output from central air. I have my cockatiel's cage about seven feet from the unit and I have it positioned to blow as far over to the side as I can. Do I need to move the bird or will he be comfortable if I am? I'm not an eskimo, I always have it set to 75 or 76. I like to let him see out the window and the sunlight creates some heat, too. I'm worried the combination of heat from the sunlight if I move my dimming curtains and the air unit will be bad for him.

Everything I've read says only to not place birds directly in front of a blowing unit. Well no shit, but how much he distance is enough to circumvent the possibility of too much air blow?
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>>2148602
Tell what happened! I'm curious!
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Hand reared this one, born March 2014
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>>2150997

Parents looked after this one til it was old enough to be weaned, born April 2015

I'm thinking of getting some budgies next, or maybe even a conure but I'd have to buy a pair because I don't want them to be lonely.
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I have been trying to determine a good companion for my little buddy but have issues. He doesn't seem to like other birbs and likes me way too much. He gets anxiety when i leave the room at any time. Here he is meeting santa
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>>2151005
adorable much
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>>2149000
I must have this bird.
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>>2151543
>http://indianringneck.com/sexing/
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>>2148602
>it all ends up underneath the cage grating.

well there's your problem, give her a box
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>>2146320
What a pretty burb
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This would be a cool pet bird.
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>>2153261
That bird has a cool pet human.
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>>2144958
I'd say on the internet and meet up with the person who wants to buy it
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Pet birds
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>>2153261

good gravy that birb is quite large
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>>2154701
Please do not crush your bird.
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I miss having a bird, my lovebird died 5 years ago :(
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>>2146320
>wake me up
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>>2145786
You're not in Eastern Australia by any chance are you anon?
Do you know any places that can rehabilitate a domestic rainbow lorikeet into a wild one, or can offer a better life than "in a cage 20-22 hours a day"?

I've sort of had to adopt one and it's obviously not a natural environment for it, I'd like to get it something notably better but it's hand reared. Google searches are turning up nothing, I'm assuming because they're not an at risk species or anything.
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>>2154738
how is he crushing the bird you fag
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>>2153261
>tfw you'll never have a giant bird of prey pal
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Is it possible for a lovebird and a cockatiel to have offspring? has this ever happened before?
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>>2153014
I want a cockatiel too 2bh
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>>2155265
Fucking sideways pictures fuck this phone
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>>2155149
No, however every subspecies of love birds can have offspring.
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>>2155089

>what's that?!
>that's my son..
>Can I eat him!?
>No..wait...You finish your homework, boy?
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My babies Cupcake and Muffin. They're cuddled up to me right now (on a towel of course)! I never really liked birds until I got these two little cherubs, but I have never loved a species more.

Chickens are a supreme breed of bird.
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>>2143862
>Would an African grey get along with other speicies?
I would ask an avian specialist-type person. Greys get possessive of their owners, I can attest to that. Even if it's nice it'll still be...cold, I think is the word, to other people.
>what the grey would likely imagine when it sees little birds hanging out with you
But again I don't know, it might be ok. I'd ask an expert.
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>>2148072
>>2148602
Have you tried eating the eggs?
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This craigslit post confuses the fuck out of me
http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/pet/5649245178.html

I've never heard of a parrot being spayed before, or them being put down if they can't find a new home. Granted I've never owned a bird nor do I intend to adopt it (First bird being a Macaw strikes me as a terrible idea), but one of the local avian vets takes in birds without homes, so I might let her know about this one/help facilitate the moving of said bird (About 8 hour drive from where I'm at, but I'm going that way in a week or so anyways)
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>>2155424
Fuck the dream is to get a house with a bit of land for some chicks. I was super let down when my gf's folks got rid of theres recently.

Here's my rescued trio. Probably get another hen desu
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>>2155779

I only have two little ones so my normal backyard is fine for them. I personally believe they are the easiest bird to keep, and the cutest too.
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>>2155398
Underrated
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>>2155075
>he
Watch your pronouns, bub.
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>>2149255
>Tfw your only freind dies so you try to suicide by cat,but the cat does nothing and your owner takes a picture of you begging for thr cat to end your life.
>Now freinds with the cat
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I ended up having a cockatiel gifted to me a couple of weeks ago

> Pet as a gift, what a fucking phenomenal idea right?

So in the meantime I've been doing some research. Pretty sure he's been on all seeds and some veggies but should I go for pellets, and if I do how should I go about it? He's about a year old. Also any warning signs I should keep an eye out for? I'm also shit out of luck for nearby vets, I heard they're all really shitty (I live in a shitty area, figures), what should I do if getting a check up isn't really an option right now? There aren't really any reputable pet shops anywhere near me either.
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>>2155075
>That feminine hand
>That girl bracelet
>That room décor
> guy
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>>2145774
Cute
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How hard is it to get an African grey? I don't have much experience with birds, and I currently have 5 cats, so a bird right now is out of the question, but I was thinking that when I get another pet I'd like an African grey or some other friend-tier parrot. Would I look on craigslist, go to a specialty pet store, contact a breeder or what? Also what would a good price estimate be? I'd expect a high price since it's such a meme bird.
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His name is Hendrix and he likes watching The Amazing World Of Gumball. Just got him yesterday, he's the most loveable fuckin bird on this planet.
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Not sure why that picture decided to turn on it's side. My apologies.
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>>2156399
As far as pellets it is ideal to start them on it early. You can try crushing them down with a mortar and pestle if it has trouble with the size. If it is reluctant to eat them, mix some with the seeds and gradually work with less seed more pellet, also i believe you can encourge the behavior with positive reinforcement. A treat if he/she starts eating the pellets etc.
Only main warning sign i can think of is if they are sitting on bottom of cage.
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>>2155089
I do though quite a few. Not a bearded vulture though.
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>>2149771
>>2149763
I think they bonded, he likes chilling with kot, eats and sings normally.
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My Quaker is pretending some Cheerios are eggs and has been meeting in them for the last two days.
She seems quite content, but is this behavior I should encourage or let continue, in your guys' experience?
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>>2156798
Nesting on them*
Fucking autocorrect
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>>2143862

you shall enjoy that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV-N2lFtBCA
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Guys

My cockatiels are horny as shit. Both hens, can't keep one from masturbating in the food bowl. I've reduced petting and drawn the curtains to make it darker. What else can I do to stop it?
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>>2157352
Vibrators?

Strap on dildos?
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>>2155763

Do it bro. Save the bird!
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>>2157352
>drawn the curtains to make it darker
Doesn't that make it worse?
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>>2157352

Masturbation is a normal behavior, trying to stop it is stupid unless they're somehow injuring themselves.

Who are you, Dr. Kellogg?
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Does anyone have any tips for harness training? Or at least getting them to stop chewing on it? I took a couple of months after I bought it to get her used to me messing with her wings, putting stuff over her head, and the harness itself. She's always let me hold her like in the pic. When I put her in it, she bites but doesn't fight to hard, about as much as she does when she's getting her nails trimmed. But then she chews on the harness and struggles in it. Should I jut give her more time to adjust? She liked going outside
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We have a lone parakeet at the shelter who came in with a cage that had mold growing on it and a beak that was overgrown. She's got a new cage now and besides the beak is healthy.

What are some things potential adopters need to know? Both about care, and what to expect for new parakeet and possibly new bird owners?

I'm reading some shit online, but I don't want to print anything out about how to remove a blood feather, how to help with pin feathers, etc because the average person would kill a bird, especially if they are a new bird owner.
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>>2157884

i let mine (she's a pineapple too) pick at hers if she feels like it, but mostly it's just a matter of whether or not she's into looking at other shit or not... just ordered a leash that hooks onto her legband and gonna give that a try, to see if she prefers it

but it's really not a huge deal if they pick here and there, mine likes to try to open hers from the spot i tighten it (she tries to loosen it the same way i do) and shit... gypsy's had her harness for over a year now and it's still in good shape unless they're really freaking out, destroying it, or not even kinda enjoying being outside a little picking here and there is nothing to worry about... besides idk about your bird, but if mine didn't want to wear a harness she just wouldn't
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>>2149255
Very sad, glad your cat and him get along.

I'd think getting a new bird would be a bit strange, because nothing can really replace the other one but idk I'm human. Also there's a chance that they new bird and your bird would not get along.
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>>2151000
I highly recommend budgies, but I did end up getting two. We had the first for about a year and then my partner and I were too busy to play with her as much. We got another female and they've been chumming it up, but they bonded more to each other than us now.
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>>2157920
Where did you start when you taught her to wear the harness? I watched this DVD that came with my harness, and I put it on his cage, around his cage, etc. But when it comes to putting it on, he will freak out and bite.

I tried opening the space that his head is supposed to go in and coaxing him with a treat, but he only ever put his head through all the way once. And he immediately freaked out because he couldn't get out of it right away. I'm stuck on what to do or where to start; do you have any other advice? Thanks in advance anon. Pic is scaredy birb.
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>>2157993

i actually started by just putting it on her, she wasn't thrilled when i tightened it, but we immediately went out for a drive then to a store and she chilled out and started purring and cuddling into my neck... after that it was easier

now it's been a little over a year and usually i put it over her head make the rest really loose and she'll flap her wings into place before i tighten it... but it's easier to physically put it on them and let them get used to wearing something from there... i did get bit, but she was also in her nippy stage so that happened often enough anyway (she hasn't bit since she got past that)

that being said she has days where she absolutely doesn't feel like putting it on sometimes, like if we were out for a while too many days before or whatever, and unless there's a reason she absolutely has to go i don't push her those days... but at the same time i've brought her out before cuz she hasn't wanted to go into her cage when i was leaving but was fine with the leash and harness... so it's always obvious if she isn't up for it cuz she's stubborn and will lay down flat, hold onto something (my clothes, her playground etc) with her feet and beak and there's no getting her to do anything other than what she wants

idk if age makes a difference, but i've had her since right after she was weaned (she was handraised/handfed) and we started training with the harness before she was 3 months old... it might take more time with an older bird (even slightly older since weeks can make a difference with baby birds), especially depending on where you're at with bonding... with gypsy it was an immediate thing which helped too i'm sure

but basically don't be afraid to put it on them, and immediately show them something cool to make it worthwhile... be prepared for some weird people though, and people with sad bird stories etc
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>>2158138
I'm mainly just concerned because she struggles with it and gets her legs in where her wings go and loosens it. I really don't want to be losing her when I take her out for a walk
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>>2158195

honestly the biggest deal is that it's over their head and wings, gypsy's put her legs through and then just not given a shit past that... i've put it on loose to take her around the property and whatnot it just being around her head and wings keeps her in no problem... and if she does that in a place you're worried about just stop, put her legs back where they belong and retighten it... with gypsy i just kiss her head and talk to her while i readjust the harness, you might be being too worried, and anxious even with the band completely loose when i'm taking it off gypsy needs help getting it off and her wings need to be out for her to be able to back up and get it off her head (i'm assuming yours is an aviator harness, it looks like mine) + if it's on right and tight enough they shouldn't be able to get their legs in that position, that's only happened when i've made mistakes putting it on in the beginning anyway

i'm getting the one for the leg band this weekend and i'll let you know how it goes, if it's any better, and if it's preferable... i just wanted back up cuz i was watching dogs last week with my s/o for his boss and gypsy came with but needed to wear her harness everywhere but the bedroom we stood in, and i felt bad about it so i wanna be able to switch it up since what seems to bother gypsy about the harness is she can't preen all her feathers the way she likes... some of what she does to her leash is preening when she picks at it not trying to escape
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>>2158236
I'm probably just being a worry wart. It's just I've had her for 5 years now and she's my baby. I got the harness because I want to be able to keep her with me more an not always have to leave her in my room where her cage and play tree is
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>once a year for a week, I birdsit for my parents' sun conure.
>my parents have no business owning a dog, let alone a parrot.
>few years ago, I buy the bird a large modern cage with the proper bar spacing, the cage they were keeping him in was terrible.
>they only feed him seeds and salted pistachios, I bought them a large amount of harrison's pellets to feed him two years ago. As soon as I'm not around he's back to seeds.
>they probably clean his cage about 3 to 4 times a year, because of this their host is infested with indian meal moths, I'm bird sitting this week, I just noticed around 20 maggots climbing on the cage. Suffice to say, I just cleaned the cage.

I am in no way a bird person, but it really pisses me off how poorly they care for that conure. Pretty much no matter what I do, its impossible to get them to change anything about how the bird is cared for.
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>>2158589
How close do you live to your parents, and what's your relationship with them like? If feasible, maybe go visit them, and take care of the bird and its cage while you're there.
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>>2158655
I'm about 3 hours away normally, I have slightly more freedom in the summer. I'm in graduate school at the moment, for biology.
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>>2158589
Take the bird from them jesus christ
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>>2158589
does he have any toys?
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>>2158929
Some, but yeah I have basically bought them all, he was not hand raised and has never mad much interest in toys, but really likes to rip up fabric.
>>2158902
For numerous reasons that just isn't an option.
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>>2157693
Sent an e-mail 24hrs ago and haven't gotten a response so we'll see how this goes.
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>>2158985
Pls find conure a better home, just say it escaped or something... those living conditions sound horrible i'm surprised the bird is not even sick
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>>2159083
My concerns with doing something of that nature.
>bird is incredibly bonded to my father.
>I cannot guarantee, wherever I re-home him would be better than his current situation.

This might just be making excuses. My primary concerns are just his diet and the cage being cleaned more often. So I'll likely waste a 100 dollars on the right food to give him and tell my parents that they need to clean the cage weekly.
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What are cheap birds who don't need a ton of space?

I'm reading about it a bit and am interested.
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>>2159104
Budgies
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>>2159104
budgies
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Red headed Amazon and yellow collared love bird. Any advice
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>>2145774
That adorable
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>>2159104
Budgies are the beginner bird and actually are pretty great.
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>>2155779
Those are some nice color morphs
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This is my Lesser Jardine's Parrot, Dudley. I got him from a friend of a friend who was moving away and couldn't (read: didn't want to) take him with her. He's apparently been rehomed a few times, all owners were female, except me. So it seems now he has a small aversion to females, but he warms up to them eventually.

I've had him for about 2 years now, and i couldn't be more happy with my decision to take him, he came with his cage and a ton of toys. If i would have had to buy him outright i could never have afforded him, so i feel lucky.

The only thing now is, he eats his bird food well, but he doesn't really eat much else. I try to give him some fresh fruit, or chop, and he kind of just leaves it. Is that a huge issue? Is his bird food + vitamins in his water enough for him? He loves nuts though, peanuts espically, walnuts too, but from what I've read, peanuts aren't espically good for them. All in shell, of course.

Eventually i want more birds, but that'll wait till i get a house.
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>>2159950
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>>2159952
He doesn't really like the camera
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>>2159950
If u can get parrot pellets than try to feed him that. There formulated to meet the birds needs. Look up online on what fruits/ vegetables your birds like. Also never feed him avocados
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>>2159950
>I try to give him some fresh fruit, or chop, and he kind of just leaves it
have you tried eating the food you want him to eat in front of him so he sees its safe? and tear of little bits of the food and hand feed with your fingers
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My 4 month old green cheek was just bit by my uncles dog while I was at work. I am working slave tier hours all week and the nearest bird vet is far as fuck away.

I got to see her for a few minutes today and it doesn't look like she is hurt too bad but she is holding her wing a few millimeters away from her body. She can move it and doesn't appear to be in pain.

She is a lot more passive and not vocalizing as much. She keeps her feathers puffed up more than usual. When I saw her she was eating fine, using her feet to hold food, and she stepped up without a fuss. I'll try and get a picture but it will be hours from now.

I can't take her to the vet. I will have to arrange for someone else to take her if it's necessary. Just trying to get as many opinions as possible.
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>>2160484
A dog bite can cause and infection, and birds are known for trying to hide illness. So getting someone to take it to the vet is a good idea.
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>>2160501
From what I saw the bite didn't pierce anything. No blood. Still there could be internal injury. Thank you for the (You)
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>>2160484
BRING IT TO THE VET YOU TARD
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>>2160484
why doesn't your uncle take it to the vet? since it was his dog that bit you bird
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Anyone have any experience with in house pigeons?
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>>2159103
Why ask for advice if you're not going to take it?

Be up front with your parents and ask why they're not taking care of their pet and house? Fucking moths are disgusting and they take forever to get rid of. Wtf is wrong with them? You should be fucking chewing them out and not letting it slide.

Are they mentally ill? Do they need a nurse?

I started off mellow but as I started writing, I thought about my old experience with people like your parents. Filthy fucking people who have no regard to how they're viewed.
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>>2153261
>>2155089
This is my dream
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>>2155763
Bro, that is a hyacinth macaw, a very rare endangered bird that can go for 10,000$. There is no way anyone would give it up for free. or cheap. I would not trust this.
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>>2161394
Good to know, never heard anything from them anyways.

Semi-related note
>Been trying to adopt a bird for the past 2 months
>Failing at every turn
>Haven't manage to turn up a refuge in Louisiana, and after searching a hundred pages of bird rescues the only ones that allowed out-of-state adoptions were on the other side of the country and still required home checks
>Now I'm about 2-3 weeks from being out of town for work for about 10 days, so this should probably wait until after I'm back at this point.
>Would love to give a bird a home that needs one, and really don't want to be part of the problem of "inexperienced, first-time bird owner gives up bird for adoption because he can't handle it"
>Also heard so much conflicting shit about parrot species that I have no idea what kind I can even handle, so I imagine it'd be a hell of a lot easier adopting an adult bird that others have some experience handling
This is maddening, is it really so hard to find a pet in need of a home that I can love like it was my own child?
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>>2160484
>>2160501
>>2160506
>>2160935
>>2160969
Update:
Her wing is broken in two places. The swelling is what is likely causing the odd angle that the wing is resting in. Luckily the swelling also kept her bones in the proper position to heal. The vet said one week for a callus to form. One week after for the bone to be usable like normal. I'm surprised birds recover so quickly.

A I feel like I should be angry but the doggo didn't know what he was doing. Probably had no intention of hurting her. I should have told everyone to keep her in her cage until I got back from work. I guess the fault lies with me. I'm just glad that the injury isn't permanent.
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>>2162094
>I should have told everyone to keep her in her cage until I got back from work. I guess the fault lies with me.
I disagree. You shouldn't HAVE to tell someone that. They shouldn't need a Ph.D. in zoology to figure out that letting the bird and dog interact could end the way it did.

(Yes, I know there are lots of videos online showing birds getting along just fine with dogs and cats, but those people usually know what their animals are like, they don't usually just let someone else's bird out around their dog/cat.)
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>>2161703

if you're the person who lost $400 on a fake ag ad on craigslist, and failed to adopt an amazon you should consider giving up you seem too stupid and too incapable of doing your own research to take proper care of anything
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>>2162882
Ouch anon.
If it's any consolation, I was informed that the Western Union agent that cashed out the money transfer was fired and is being investigated for fraud due to multiple issues of this nature.

And I admittedly do a lot of my research here, because I'd much rather hear first-hand knowledge than buying a book written by some random schmuck and follow it like the gospel.
Case in point, I have read several parrot care books that can't even decide on what species make good "beginner birds", if any. Hell, one of them even said Macaws make better starter birds than Conures, while several of the other books say things along the lines of "Don't pick a bird on whether it's a recommended starter bird or not, because if you're a Cockatoo person you won't necessarily be happy with a Parakeet"

I don't have the experience or knowledge to know what info is bullshit and what isn't, so hopefully by griping enough on a Tibetan basket-weaving forum I'll get some pointers
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>>2163053

i don't care what happens to people who scam idiots, i've seen you ignore advice here, you're awful at doing any kind of research you don't use google or look at bird owner forums, you have zero experience and you keep looking at birds that require experience, lots of care, and work

what do you want from a bird? what's your price range? how much time do you have? why do you want a bird and not another pet?
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>>2149255
bit late but you need to get it at least a mirror or something. I had a pair of zebra finches that died within days of each other because when Mr. Finchy lost Mrs. Finchy, he pined himself to death. They were old and had been a pair for their whole lives (7+ years) and even though there were other finches right by him, he was too upset about losing his mate.
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>>2161703
Honestly if you were considering adopting a Hyacinth off craigslist without even knowing what those birds are worth, get a parakeet.
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>>2163067
Ok, I can work with this.

>what do you want from a bird?
A companion (Not a decoration) that wants to be with me and than I can ensure they have a happy life.
Train-ability is great, and front what I've gathered even the most stubborn of birds are very trainable if you can work with them.
I don't really want to get a bird that would be miserable if they're not part of a group at all times.
I've been leaning towards something on the medium-size, or at least around the size/a bit bigger than a Conure (Local avian vet I talked to though said Conure's are really bad starter birds, some books I've read say the same but a lot of things say the opposite)
Getting something more on the calm side seems like a good place to start, but not a requirement.
Species I've been leaning away from:
Cockatoos, as much fun as they seem it seems like an horrible, terribly bad idea to start out with
Macaws for much the same reason
Quakers because every anecdote about them seems to boil down to them being extremely love or hate with everyone

>what's your price range?
Pretty much whatever it takes within reason. I'm a forever-single guy with a steady job and plenty of hours, so dropping several grand on a pet that will be with me a long-ass time wouldn't bother me in the slightest. Traveling for meet-and-greets though would be fairly difficult to get away from work.

>how much time do you have?
Work 8-10 hours a day, 6-7 days a week and every moment I'm not at work I would happily devote to something that cares about me. One potential thing though is if I had a bird that was well behaved enough (ie. doesn't scream a lot), I'm 90% sure I could get away with keeping a cage at work and bringing them with me each/most/some days for them to hang out as I work a white-collar job at a small business

>why do you want a bird and not another pet?
That's a hard one to put into words. Guess I've always loved the ways they act, their vocalizations, and how affectionate they are
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>>2163116
cont.
Never been a huge fan of cats, and while I do like dogs I'm craving a companion that's a bit more engaging.

>>2163094
Wasn't quite to adopt, was thinking it a better idea to hook the bird up with the vet that takes in unwanted birds as she has a Macaw and experience with handling them and would probably give a good chance for me to get some experience at the same time. Out of the birds she's recently had I've been able to interact with an Amazon that was chill as fuck, a Macaw that stood played on top of his cage in the clinic's lobby all day and said "Hi" to everyone, and a female Eclectus that fucking HATES men. She told me if I saw a chance and the bird liked me just go for it though, and said I really seemed to care enough that I would take good care of them regardless
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>>2153261
>you'll never own a bird as large as the day is long
Why even live
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>>2159573
Thankyou man. They're what all my money and time goes on.

May introduce another male to the female as the two boys are bonded now and pick on her something rotten
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Our little sweety, she's a parakeet, loves her to bits, only had her around 10 weeks and already very tame :)
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>>2163316
>her

Looks like a boy judging from the cere. Saying that, the colour morph and blurry pic doesnt help ;)

Budgies are bad ass.
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I've had two budgies for a year or so now, and I love them but I think I'd also like to get a bird a little larger to clown around with and manhandle. I've found that my budgies are totally game to crawl over my hands, arms and shoulders but, I guess given their size, are a bit meek.

What sort of larger birds would be good to get if I'd like it to be very hands on and clownish while also being quiet?
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Hey guys, my mom had bought a cockatiel when I used to live with her, and when I visited her yesterday the bird looked like he's been majorly plucking his feathers, even looks like there's blood in some of them and a couple bald spots. He's still a very sweet bird but damn I think he's seriously getting himself hurt at this point. What causes feather plucking and how can I stop it?
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>>2164075
lack of attention/mental stimulation?
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My bird absolutely loves eating scrambled eggs. Is this healthy? Is he fucked up? Am I fucked up?
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I've been wanting a bird ever since i was a young but never was able to because my mom didnt think i could take care of it and now that im making money and shit im able to take care of one, what would be a good one that is at least alright with cats, they dont have to be friends or anything but cant be attacking them
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>>2164126
>now that im making money and shit im able to take care of one,

do you have the time to devote to a bird?? they're very attention whorey
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>>2164036
>quiet

Cockatiels seem to mix well with budgies socially (obviously keep them in their own cages) but as for quiet...
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>>2164135
Quiet as in not absolutely ear piercingly loud at most hours of the day.
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>>2164134
I literaly always havd time to waste and spend so having a bird to give it to wouldnt be an issue but once school starts ill be gone for about 7 hours a day, would that not be good?
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>>2164139

Any bird from the parrot family is a social animal that NEVER spends time outside of ear shot of another of its kind in the wild.

Spending hours of the day alone is not healthy for them, and is one of the reasons they develop behavioral problems, like feather plucking.

Having a pet that isn't social, like a cat, or a reptile, is a better option for you, and the pet.
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>>2164145
This.

If you do decide to get a social bird, make sure to get two so they have a companion when you're gone.
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>>2164147
I'm the anon from earlier with a feather plucking bird. Are there any sort of risks to getting a second bird if my current one is already a few years old?
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>>2164150
Sure, your bird could be an asshole, or the bird you get could be an asshole.

There could be territorial issues, and if your current bird views you as its mate, there could be jealousy issues.

Regardless, you can keep them in separate cages so they can't fuck each other up, and assess how they interact to determine whether they seem friendly or not.
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>>2164153
Another question involving feather plucking-- it looks like there's just a big patch of pink bare skin with nothing growing out of it on his left wing, but his right wing is completely fine. If he stops plucking those feathers will grow back, right? His flight is pretty messed up and he always struggles with that wing.
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>>2164154
Birds usually have a yearly molt period, so those feathers should grow back eventually.

Make sure he didn't pluck those feathers because of something you can fix, like humidity levels, mites, or some shit.
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How are indian ringnecks in apartments
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Got a new bird a few days ago (lutino), apparently he (behaves like a she though, maybe he's just shy) is a 1 month old baby, he's extremely tame and friendly, a bit cautious though, he also doesn't bite, he just nibbles on my fingers.
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Slightly higher res photo, I know what you mean by the cere looking a little blue but she's still very young and it's hard to determine at the moment
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>>2164137
Depends on the bird brah. You may have a vocal little shit or not.
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>>2164291
How long did it take for u to tame her. I have two for about a year. And so far I managed to have then eating from my hand
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>>2164080
you
shouldn't
be
feeding
eggs
to
a
bird.

eggshells are fine btw.
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I've had my military macaw for 3 years and today I found an egg. She's already 13 and this is the first time she's ever laid one. I'm not entirely sure what to do with it. She wasn't laying on it. It wasn't even near where she has been laying lately. Any ideas on what to do with it?
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I have a magpie that keeps visiting me every day and I want to befriend that nigga. How do I go about giving him food without scaring him off? Every time I even get remotely close he flies off
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>>2164969
>can't befriend animal
>hey guys how do I befriend animal?

Food.
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>>2164975
Yeah but he flies away whenever i try to feed him. And just leaving food there wont do any good
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>>2164900
eat it
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>>2165027
Would rather not.
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This is my little cockatiel. He seems very happy and healthy other than the fact that he taps his feet. It's mostly his left foot. I know calcium deficiency is a common cause for this so I've been trying to introduce more calcium into his diet. Are there any other common causes for this? I feel so bad he seems uncomfortable
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Conjure question. I'm sure aggressive behavior and 'how do I get this bird to like me' questions come up a lot so I want you to know I've done a lot of research and I'm making a strong effort to do the right things.

This is my girlfriend's parrot, a green cheeked conure that she raised from a baby. He's about two years old and he's known me for a year and a half. I moved in a couple weeks ago and he was obviously displeased but the little bastard has gotten devious.

When he bites if its a finger I gently push back on his head and it confuses him enough to at least turn his head and let me escape. If he's biting me somewhere I can't get at I'll 'earthquake' (as the article called it) enough the he gets weirded out and seeks a more stable patch of shoulders. When he hears me talk or I enter the room I get the same routine the girlfriend does (he fluffs up, whistles, makes kiss noises and says 'step up') but if I let him anywhere near me he either goes after my knuckle or my nose like a goddamn raptor. If I'm in a thick hoodie he'll be nice and friendly until he can run up my arm and nip my cheek or something.

SO MY QUESTION IS: Am I hurting my chances of an equitable relationship by ignoring his demands for attention? Is mentally forcing out the worry of getting bit triggering me getting bit? Is there a way to strike a truce? Because right now I think he thinks I'm trading blueberries to not get bullied today.
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>>2165117

Also want to say this parrot eats a proper diet, has a big cage and we change the toys often and he gets a lot of social time with my girlfriend when she's home. I go in to talk to him, put on an ambient track of bird sounds and soft synths (makes him fluff up and go all n>n face) but I'm worried me trying to socialize might be stressing him out too
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>>2165115
Afraid i don't know personally, but your little guy looks almost spot on with korvus.
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>>2165488
:) cute. I love cockatiels, they're so sweet!
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>>2165497
Do your cockatiels eat fresh foods or are they seed junkies like mine? I offer him fresh all the time but he's so picky!
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>>2164857

birds can eat eggs and eggshells
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>>2165505
I offer them fresh food from time to time, but they always reject it like they're disgusted with it
I got my cinnamon pied tiel to try out some cucumber about a week ago though, so I guess there's progress!
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>>2165505
Also, the food they eat is a mix of seeds and pellets
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My baby tiel
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>>2165536
cute
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>>2165536
Floofy face. Very cute
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>>2165117

Two year olds tend to be obnoxious, but the good news is that they'll mature a bit and chill out as they get older.

I'd try to ignore the bites and redirect his attention onto something else. I'd also try to train the shit out of him using a favorite treat as a reward item. If you didn't clip his wings and he can fly, take advantage of that by training him to play games that require him to fly and exert energy. Play a game where you toss a treat low, and then high, so that he's forced to exert energy flying to get the treats. This will provide him with exercise, and should also help wear the little fucker out.

The bottom line is that parrots are smart as hell, social creatures, and not really good pets for most working people. Without shit to do and think about, they get bored as fuck, and combine that with a lack of exercise and hours of isolation, and you've got a guaranteed recipe for behavioral problems.
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>>2165505

A lot of seed junkies will eat sprouted seeds when you mix them in with regular seeds.

The sprouts are much more healthy.

Give that a shot and see what happens.
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>>2165624
Can I buy those somewhere or do I have to make the sprouts myself?
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>>2165644
Nah, you make them yourself.

There's nothing to it, anon.
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Thoughts?
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>>2155763
Scammers often use hyacinth macaws in their schemes. Also the text looks like it's been copypasta'd from some ad about a female dog.

>scammer doesn't even know the species of parrot
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>>2149255
How old is the bird? Depending on that, it might be too late to get him a pet friend - this happened to me a few cases and in almost all cases, my older bird didnt accept the new (younger) bird, never bonded with him, and just bullied him all the time.
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>>2166018
A qtπ
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Lads. One of my love birds passed away (she was 10 years old), and I gave the other one away to another single lovebird of about the same age so that they dont have to suffer alone.

I cant handle the fact that I dont have a bird in my house anymore. I've had budgies for all my life and then got those love birds 2 or 3 years ago, and I want some birds in my house again.

One of my budgies was very tame for some reason and he fucking loved me even though he had 3 other birds to play with, and he liked spending time with me (even though he naturally preferred the other birds) and that was kinda cool. I want buy a type of bird that is known to have an adventurous personality, one that isnt so fundamentally afraid of humans that they'll never come to you (you know, most birds give you that look - the look that they consider you an idle predator even 10 years after they've come to know you), something that will enjoy spending some time on my body.

Other than that, the longer it lives, the better. its too sad that most budgies and other smaller birds have a short life span as is, and shitty breeders who breed for color instead of healthy birds make it worse. can somebody suggest me a type of bird that generally likes playing with humans even if theyre held with mates? I have enough space to keep them in and let them fly around and everything, thats not an issue.

some type of parrot, perhaps?
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>>2166230
I should mention that cockatiels give me a cute boner. they're so cute holy shit, I love how they look and wnat to snuggle one.

but yeah, anything that can live a long life and will get tame without me having to torture the bird is fine.
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>>2166230
Cockatiels take their time getting to know you but they are awesome pets. Obviously every bird is different but every cockatiel I've had has been such a sweetheart. On a healthy diet they can live up to 30 years. I also love their whistles. I hardly ever head cockatiels scream; mine have always just whistled and sung lots of songs.

Conures are awesome too. I think they are easier to tame then cockatiels. Only downside is that they are generally a lot louder. Their bites pack more of a punch too, lol.

Conures are awesome too
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>>2166231
>>2166242
Oh and btw, regardless of what kind of bird you get, take your time. It's so worth it to find the perfect feathery companion.
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>>2166242
Thanks senpai. Researching about this topic made me realize that a cockatiel is what I truly find. I try to look for pro arguments for tiels everywhere, so I'm just going to get one after handing in my fucking thesis. I'm so excited, next week is going to be so great. I just need to find a good breeder now.

Cockatiels are also about the only bird in germany out of those with a longer life span than budgies that are common. It was a bitch to assemble the food for my love birds every now and again because nobody sold the right mixtures for them, since nobody has them.
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By the way guys: Should I get one cockatiel or two? Is it cruel to keep them alone or do they not mind if you spend a lot of time with them? Basically, are they fine with you as their partner?

Can some people with cockatiels give their opinions on this? Dont want listen to people with no experience with them.
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>>2166305
If you're a neet with loads of time to spare a single bird would be fine but situations change so that should be considered with an animal with a 15+ year lifespan.

If you have a job I'd definately say 2, wouldn't be fair on the bird. A lone bird will become needy.

Best not waiting too long before getting you second bird (if the first is a young one) as they can get bitchy and cant be housed together.
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>>2148072
Leave them alone,she will stop.dont take them out.
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>>2166305
Like the other person said it depends on your situation. Do you live with multiple people? Is there someone home most of the time? If there is someone home when you're not if you work/go to school, that makes a big difference. Even if that other person just talks/whistles to them a bit. If the house is empty for 8 hours a day I would get him a friend.

The only downside to having two is that they will be more closely bonded with each other than to you. That makes it a bit harder to tame them/get them used to. I had a pair because my first cockatiel hated being handled and was very lonely. He fell in love with his tiel friend the minute we introduced them.
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>>2156720
That's so cute anon
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>>2166231
I have a caique and she's so fucking funny. I wouldn't say she's super cuddly but I'm never bored when she's around. She likes hanging out on me, sometimes she'll just chill on her back in my hand and wiggle around.

I hear conures can be more sweet in that sense. Sun conures are gorgeous but that fucking screech they do is pretty hard on the ears.

If you could find a bird shelter or breeder and check out some birds of different species it might give you a good idea. Maybe you'll just click with one individual and that'll be it!

Good luck anon, I feel for youi.
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I had 2 budgies. Managed to train one basic commands but they were so troublesome we ended up giving them away. I don't think I'll be returning to birds anytime soon, reptiles are more my thing.
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>>2167665
Ooooh my god what a cutie

This is exactly the reason why I want cockatiels

God DAMN that fucking bird is cute
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>>2167669
Yeah, she was the cutest bird I've ever had.

;_;
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>>2167670
Oh my God anon, my condolences. I'm so sorry. Losing your birdbro is always so awful. I was so sad when my budgiebro passed away.
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>>2167665
Yellow tiels are so cute. They're like yellow canaries but 10x cuter
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>Birds being loud outside
>louder than usual
>Huh better check my chickens
>Go outside and see the songbirds flying around in what seemed like a panic
>Don't see any hawks/eagles
>Also dont see my chickens
>Hear my top hen make a worried call
>Start searching for them
>find my chickens hiding behind the A/C unit back where they usually are not
>They are significantly spooked
>I am now spooked
should I be worried?
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my green cheek snuck and stole a sip of wine, it was a drop but should i be worried?
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>>2168251
Not at all.

You don't think birds are ever exposed to fermented fruit in the wild?
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>>2159950
my GCC is also very picky and would only want to eat seeds and fruit; I tried Harrison's adult bird formula pellets (coarse) and he loved it immediately! I highly recommend it (he went right for it even though normally he would never touch a pellet).
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>>2168101
Take your chickens inside and have a sleep over.
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>>2164126
>I've been wanting a bird ever since i was a young but never was able to because my mom didnt think i could take care of it and now that im making money and shit im able to take care of one, what would be a good one that is at least alright with cats, they dont have to be friends or anything but cant be attacking them

if you don't have time to spend and dont care for a friend, then get a canary. they're easy to take care of and the males usually sing.
not cuddly though. dont hold or touch them if you don't need to. you can leave them in a cage if the cage is big enough.
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>>2168375
Just because they are exposed to it does not mean they possess the ability to digest alcohol, just saying.
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>>2168101
most likely a hawk chased by or something, doesn't take long for them to disappear from the area especially the more speedy accipiter hawks
a lot of the times my chickens will make the call and by the time i'm out there whatever scared them is gone
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>>2168375

well i know alcohol isn't ok for them to have, but i hadn't thought about that way... she was completely fine though, i was just worried since she's tiny and it was wine... and my s/o and i have been really good about keeping her away from it, even though she always desperately wants it (she licks the outside of wine glasses) so she went to our roommate then ran down his arm to his glass as soon as he wasn't looking

>>2168461

that was my thought, she kept trying to steal more and everyone had to watch their glasses really carefully, but everything turned out alright and she didn't get any more wine... that was the first time she got any so i was just hoping it wasn't vet time... especially cuz i found out just hours before that her vet is on vacation for the week when i went to make an appointment for her 6 month check up and a nail clipping...
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>>2168655
>>2168461

+ i have a number for a back up vet/emergency place with avian vets but i already know she likes her vet and the woman is good with her... and her vet is a little closer
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>>2168655
huh, I didnt knew that GCC could be alcoholics
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>>2168663

this was just her first taste, so she isn't one yet... seems like she'd like to be though cuz she kept going for it after she got a taste, i gave her a little juice to try to distract her but that only worked so well... i just gotta warn people better that she'll try to charm her way into their glass and is really sneaky about it in the future i guess... i mentioned it offhand, but we've only been living together a couple weeks so i don't think he realized how much effort she puts into trying to get wine
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How necessary is the "covering the cage at night" thing? My cockatiel gets angry as fuck when I do it. Like hissing and headbutting/pecking his perches/cage bars angry. What should I do?
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>>2168991

I just cover the top of the cage, so he knows that towel on top means it's time to go to sleep. but I dim the lights fairly low so he can still see. if it's completely dark he gets night frights
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does anyone have the webm of the pigtail girl pouring water and the birdy circling around the cup?
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>>2155089
What the fuck is that? Like a vulture? Can you name the specie?
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>>2168461
Nor does it mean you have to panic and call the vet just because the feathery little bastards managed to snag a drop or two...
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>>2169245
I believe that is a bearded vulture? dinosaur looking fuckers. I love their goofy little feather pants.
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>>2169063
This?
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>>2169063
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>>2155089
what's stopping you from pursuing falconry courses

even if you aren't prepared to house a captive raptor you can still interact and learn about their care
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>>2168461

Doesn't stop scientists from doping up zebra finches with booze and recording their songs.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0115427

Tons of 'authorities' stress that if you feed any bird a single drop of ethanol they'll drop over and croak - but I've never seen any scientific backing for that belief. Yes, birds metabolize ethanol more slowly than mammals so the risk for alcohol poisoning is greater, but the idea that a bird is going to die from a sip of wine is, in my belief, credulous.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of bird this is? They have them at my local zoo and they're the best.
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>>2169563
rainbow lorikeet
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So my pineapple green cheek is being an as hole to me. Big surprise I know, but it usually loves me and snuggles with me but as soon as I get near the cage she tries to bite me. I usually ignore her till she calms fown, but is there a better solution?
have a picture of my other birb
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>>2169640
It smells something.
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>>2169643
fear
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Hey guys, is it okay if I buy a single tiel first until he bonds with me? I'll have free time 24/7 until mid october so I can play with him and be his friend whenever he's bored. I'd like to do this so that he bonds with me. I'd then buy a second tiel when I start my internship so that he's not alone, and so that he has a birb friend to hang out with too.
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>>2169640
pretty normal behavior family. birds want to be left alone sometimes too, and the cage is literally their territory/home/safe zone. When birds are in their cage, they want to be absolutely 100% safe and left alone if they want that.

>>2169563
thats a cute bird

man, birds are the best
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>>2169928
I guess so, but she's never acted like this towards me before
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>>2165115
I like that he looks like someone drained all the color from the picture. Neat.
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>>2170185
>someone
who?
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>>2164226 here
My lutino died today ;__;
Woke up and found her dead on the cage floor ;_;
This is my second lutino tiel dying the first was >>2167665

She was just a baby god dammit, the sweetest cutie I've ever had ;_;
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>>2170123

could be hormones, what's with her feathers? is she molting or plucking?
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>>2170248
Sorry to hear that, anon.

I steer clear of getting lutino or any other mutation of cockatiel anymore. Every single one I've ever had came down with some sort of tumor and died before their time. My normal is the only one I have left. (And, of course, he's the mean one, the rest were almost all sweethearts.)
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>>2170254
Molting. She lost feathers without plucking and grew a lot of pin feathers. How long does that usually last?
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>>2170267
The first one that died had tumors and died because of it, the baby was still barely 2 month old, and yet he just simply died in the middle of the night
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I've booked a vet visit for Friday.
Is her wing something to worry about?
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>>2171148
looks like a feather not coming in straight
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My GCC seems to be losing a lot of feathers. She is young and hasn't had a molt since I have had her. From what I have read this is about the age and time of year when they get their first molt.

I have noticed some pin feathers near her beak and some feathers on the top of her head sticking out which seems normal for a molt.

What has me concerned is the amount of feathers lost on her breast and shoulders which don't appear to have pin feathers yet and I am terrified that she might be mutilating herself. Some of them fall out of their own accord but twice I have seen her with a feather in her beak.

Down feathers can clearly be seen on her breast in a few spots but it doesn't appear systematic like she is tearing them all out in one spot but from what I have read shoulder and breast feathers are the most often plucked.

I have made sure her diet is balanced, provide opportunities to take baths, clean her cage out regularly and so on. The one thing that might be lacking is interaction with me. Until the end of August she has at most 3 or so hours of out of cage time with me which is all I can offer. More on my days off of which I only get one of a week. Once the season ends I will be able to spend much more time with her.

Should I be worried? I don't want her to develop a habit of plucking feathers this early in her life.
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What would be a decent bird for a first-time bird owner?
preferably something that likes hanging out with people and is reasonably intelligent
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>>2171401
Get a parakeet.

If you get just one, they'll bond with the family, and you can get another one later to keep it company.

They're smart, can talk, and pretty much user friendly.
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>>2171481
How would a cockatiel be for a first bird?
sounds like they're a little more chill and tolerant of being touched, and a bit quieter too.
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>>2171509
all birds are okay, really. theyre not difficult pets or anything, just have common sense and try to understand/read your birb's body language, and all birds are chill. they have different traits and some different behaviors but all birds can be lovely and easy to handle if you're a good owner.
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Why is it so hard to find a cage that's got horizontal bars and isn't tiny?
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>>2171509

A tiel would be fine.

All parrot species are "noisy" simply because they are social creatures, and they are never outside of contact call range from their flock, for defensive purposes. They all have their "is everything cool" call they use, which is answered with the appropriate "everything's cool" response....which is pretty funny imo, and they are all pretty vocal in the morning, and in the evening before roost time. Tiels are no different.
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>cant keep corvids as pets
>cant keep owls as pets

I really want a pet bird, I wonder if he would interfere with my aquarium though

How much does a parakeet put someone back usually?
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>>2171936
>implying owls are birds
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>>2171382
Please respond

You can see some of the pin feathers here but the feather loss seems a bit excessive. This is my first birb and this is her first molt. Is this plucking? I almost never catch her in the act so I'm unsure.
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My birb, Berry.
I originally wanted a green cheek conure but when i walled into the store 3 caiques crawled all over me and i was in love
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>>2166230
I have a caique and its very hilarious and heartwarming. I recommend a caique
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>>2144981

Don't buy a bird please. So many people have no idea what they are getting into and don't realize that they can live a long fucking time. Small budgies can live 25 years easy, Greys can live between 40 and 60 years. The bigger parrots like cockatoos can live to 80.

There are parrots getting passed around like liabilities and these breeders dont give a fuck. They keep flooding the market with them to the point where the ones that desperately need a new home go wanting.

If you are serious about a bird, then learn about them first and experience them from a friend that owns a bird. At that point look to adopt a bird from someone else. Don't support breeders. These wonderful animals are not meant to live in cages. You would not understand until you own one what I mean.
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>>2147831

This. Sub species and similar species can get along well sometimes. Timneh Greys and Congo Greys are relatively tolerant of each other. Umbrella Cockatoo flocks are generally accepting of other Cockatoo species like Mollucan and Goffins.

Some birds are just ornery bastards and want to be forever alone. Others form a pair bond with a human or another bird and will form an inseperable bond but bite the shit out of every other living thing. They all need a place to call their own though, usually a cage. This is especially important if you have a female and she wants to lay eggs.

For the most part though they stick to their kind and tolerate others at best. They are not that different than people in this regard.
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>>2148072

The feather plucking actually may or may not have to do with mating desire and laying eggs. It is a form of stress relief, think emo kids cutting themselves.

The problem with plucking themselves is that it is a really really hard habit for them to break once they start.

I would say that you need to find a way to interact with her more and give her more attention, and at the same time give her PLENTY of shit to distract her when you are not there. I will throw paper towel rolls, 401k statements, paper documents I need to shred, blocks of wood, anything at all for my Grey to just fucking shred to pieces because it is fun and it relieves stress.

He picks much less now but still does to some level. You should definitely see the doc. There are meds they can give you too like anti depressants for birds that help a lot.
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>>2172032
he's right you know, owls are cats that look like birds
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>>2172512
>These wonderful animals are not meant to live in cages.

I agree.

I think owning birds from the parrot family should be illegal, simply due to the fact that they are intelligent, social, and NEED to be able to interact with a "flock" to be healthy.

At least dogs usually get free run of the house...
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>>2173218

my bird goes out on walks with me all the time, meets people (she has people who walk over when i'm out who say "hey gypsy" and talk to her), plays with my budgies, hangs out with my s/o and our roommate, etc... i rarely cage her, she can roam the house often, and is almost always free at least in my room, i can't work due to health issues so she's nearly always with me, she's happy...
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>>2173218
mfw when i used to take my pet lovebirds everywhere i went. i even let them walk on the beach freely for a bit. always roamed around in the room.

only downside is everything had bird shit on it
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>>2173249
>>2173405

So you'd put your own best interests above the parrot species as a whole.

Got it.
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>>2173410
they had a lot of fun, which is what matters. the lead parrot was always adventurous and explore every new place it could find
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>>2173410

if the bird is happy then its well being is taken into consideration...

my conure flew outside yesterday by accident while playing with me, she chose to not leave the front porch and to come back in... she could've left right then if she wanted to, and she didn't... she gets vet check ups, fresh food, plenty of attention and was bred and handraised by a person... she's not exactly the same as a bird that's wild caught or some shit...

you said "at least dogs free roam" as if that makes keeping a pet better, and my birds pretty much do with very few exceptions other than bedtime... they also get to go outside, and have constant attention and company... plenty of toys (either bought or homemade) and i've turned parts of my bedroom into a playground for them and let them fly around...

there are some birds that don't do well as pets... but the ones i have (green cheek conure and budgies) do pretty well, and i take care of mine... so how is it a problem?
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so my roommate recently adopted a very young budgie, less than half a year old at the time
we already have a ~20 year old parrot
it seems that the budgie has a bit of a tail bob
quite subtle, more pronounced after spurts of flying
however he is consistently singing/chirping and eating, with normal shits
should i have a concern about young birb
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>>2155424
Chickens are underated when it comes to bird bonds

I live in the country and everyone just treats them as disposable farm animals

But I love my chickens
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>>2173709
take him to a vet. of course he'll look absolutely fine for a looong time, thats just how birds are. its probably not a big deal yet so the bird can be lively etc, but it might kill the birb in the long run
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>>2173781
it isn't consistent though, it almost disappears during sleeping/rest
but you're right, it's likely best for a vet visit
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My best buddy. His name is Ridley and he lives for cuddles, and trolling. He only speaks when I'm not looking or in the room, normally its "Daddy bird" or "Mommy bird" depending on if he wants me or my gf. Other times its soda can opening sounds, trucks backing up, or even other birds.
I read up on Lovies and I know they aren't normally big imitators so I don't know if its normal or not for him to have such a wide range.
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So how do you go about getting your birds enough vitamin D?

Because I'm starting to fear my own birbs aren't getting enough of it, which I know may affect their health in the long run. Opening the window or taking them outside is of course the simple tactic, but thing is that I live in Norway, and not even now during summer does the sun shine very often, and during winter shit's going to be downright impossible. So I figured I may as well start preparing now.

Please share your knowledge with me, wise /an/ons.
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>>2175399
Animals don't need vitamin d.
If you're worried, dose the water.

>have feathers and fur to protect skin
>dumb owners still force animals to hang out in the sun
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>>2174893
Dang I wish my lovebird was like that. Noodles lost her mate a month ago. I never expected them to interact with much since they were partners but now she's opened up a little. Can't hold her yet but I can get very close, any tips?
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>>2175447
Oh man thats harder to do, mine was hand raised and never had a mate. Lovies tend to follow soon after their mate dies I've heard.
But best way to do so is to interact outside the cage try hand feeding millet or seeds, It may take a long time though. Also they enjoy social bathing, like have a bowl of water for them to splash in.
Just do things that make her happy and at some point she will open up more.
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>>2155089
Fucking biutiful
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>>2163260
Aaand here's the new bird as planned, still in quarantine before he's introduced.
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>>2172512
>budgies live for 25 years
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Breaking the sound barrier with extreme feather agitation
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>>2176070
In his normal molecularly unexcited state
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My budgie is terrified of hands. He thinks they are trying to eat him or something. Hates being handled but doesn't mind using hands as a perch to reach a makeshift toy.

Can I train this out?
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>>2176131
No, the previous owner heavily abused your animal. There is no way to remove the fear without time.

You see fear of hands in 1/10 petstore animals you get because they get hit during cage cleanings.
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>>2176134
Well fuck. I bought him from a breeder. This is what I was trying to avoid.

It's not like he won't fly to a finger or step up but as soon as a hand is palm down above or laterally to him he gets away as fast as possible. Usually to my head.
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>>2172517
>not Roth IRA
shiggy diggy doo
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>>2175399
there are full-spectrum lightbulbs available

>>2175402
:|

full spectrum light is necessary to aid in the production of a variety of hormones in humans. the same is true of most animals. they wont drop dead without it, but their wellbeing is affected and it can lead to depression.
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>>2176134
this. or he was force-fed.

>>2176131
try gloves; he might not recognize them as hands.
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>>2176157
>or he was force-fed.
That was probably it. I remember the breeder saying she had to feed a bird later.

Never going there again.

>he might not recognize them as hands
Maybe...he likes to play with my toes and when I have socks on he kinda nibbles like he knows my toes are hidden. It's worth a shot I guess.
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Anyone care to give some advice or share their thoughts on this matter? My cousin used to have 2 doves but also had 3 cats, one of the cats ate one of the doves about 3 years ago. Ever since then the dove who is named Virtue has been plucking his feathers ever since I know this is a sign of depression but my cousin doesn't seem to be doing much to improve the mood and they still have, if not more, cats. I started stopping by often to see him since I'm very concerned.
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>>2176232
>3 years of mateless feather plucking
Holy shit. That poor dove.
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>>2176131
Yes. Time and effort. Its only two weeks and my terrified store bought budgie is growing accustomed to my hand in the cage.
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>>2143862
bird owners seem insane

who wants a pet who is intensely needy and also screams loud enough to cause ear damage for hours every day??
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>>2176546
People that like snuggly birds. They're like little heaters. Perfect in the winter.
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I've been thinking about getting a bird lately.
Seeing as I don't have any experience with birds I would like something relatively easy to take care of.
What kind of birds do you recommend?
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>>2148072
>switching eggs out with the fake stone ones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_WTR7eFk8
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>>2176155
How do you set up full spectrum bulbs, like how far/close from the bird, and what are some good ones?

I know some on the market are specifically designed for birds, but I've also heard they're a scam.
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>>2166218
He is 7 now. My parents had 2 budgies and an older female bullied a younger male all the time. That's what I'm afraid could happen if I get a new one. I did but him a mirror and he seems happy again. Sings, loves his bird bath and cat friend.
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>>2176760
>no experience
>easy to care for
Budgie

Just read up on how to care for one first. They're fun and very social little airheads.
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>>2176760
Some would say a budgie is a good first choice, and they're not wrong, though budgies are incredibly fragile little things, so you'll still need to read up on them a lot before purchasing. Even then they might suddenly drop dead one day without you ever knowing the cause, as they hide disease real well. They can also be pretty difficult to tame. Not usually if they're still young, but be prepared to put some effort into that. Caring for it itself isn't hard at all once it's comfortable in your presence and you've gotten all its basic needs down. Hardest thing from there is probably being cleaning its cage periodically.

Cockatiels are also a good first time choice. They're more sturdy than budgies, and somewhat easier to tame due to their love for headscratches, but they're also bigger, requiring a larger cage, thus more space, and once tamed, they're not as tame as budgies tend to get. They might be more cuddly, but also much more wary and even scared of random objects, surroundings or strangers. Generally they're calm birds though, and less hyperactive or playful than budgies usually are.
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>>2155763
Anon, that bird is nearly illegal to have in the US. DO NOT BUY. I was probably stolen from his or her mother:(, like in Rio.
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>>2176813
>>2176819
Was kinda leaning towards a Budgie actually.
As I'm living in an apartment space is always an issue.
I'll read up on what kind of cage and other things I should get.
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>>2176830
Just make sure the cage has at least two sides of horizontal bars and has at most a 3/4 inch gap between bars IIRC. Budgies are also very curious and can easily land themselves in trouble like in an open toilet so make sure you birdproof your area.

They make for excellent bird buddies really.
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Can someone please ID this bird for me?
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>>2176841
Thanks for the info
How do they feel about being left alone?
I'm not away much, but I do have a job so I will be gone for a few hours a day.
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>>2176869
>How do they feel about being left alone?
They don't like it. Even when other people are around, if their favorite person is missing they will be a little sad. I had a budgie in highschool and when I'd come home he would fly from his cage to the door and go crazy with kisses and singing on my shoulder but my mom would say he had been very quiet all day.

I'd get a second budgie if you're going to be away all day and he has nobody else. A few hours might be ok. Take note, two birds will probably bond with each other more than with you, though.
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>>2176874
*basically what I mean is that budgies are flock animals and will do what you do. If you take a nap, they will (hopefully) take a nap. If you eat lunch, they eat lunch. If you're loud, they will be loud.

If you take away their flock it's like being in solitary isolation.

Hope that makes sense
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>>2176868
Looks like a Quaker Parrot, at least as far as I can tell.
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>>2176830
I live in an apartment and have 4 budgies. As much as they need to exercise and fly around daily, and though they have the run of my flat, they tend to stick the living room
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Just been given a Green Cheeked Conure, it's obviously tamed but flown into a family friends business. Vets are trying to track down the owner, but in the mean time he's with us.

He's fairly friendly, although does nip at my hands if I get too close to him. Anyway to get him more used to males (he's fine with girls, so far)? Also, i've noticed he's butting his beak into the cage at times. Is this a sign of aggression, stress or something I should pay attention too?
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>>2177186
That looks like it. Thanks
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>>2163116
>>2163125
Rescue cockatiels from a shelter. Its the only advice.
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>>2177208
>Anyway to get him more used to males?

Hand feed him his favorite food. Millet works with cockatiels. They fall in love with you.
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>>2173717
My wife had 6. When they got old we sent them to a chicken retirement home (we had to move to an apartment) and visited them. They always knew us. When they dug up a cool stone or treasure they would bring us to see.
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>>2177191
I live in a house and have the same thing with one budgie. He never ventures too far from a sightline to his cage.
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Fuck me, My cockatiel just flew off earlier today.
I know it was my fault, since i tend to take him with me outside sometimes just to take out the trash of something like that. Up until now he would always just stay on my shoulder like it was no big deal, but today he just flew off. Maybe something startled him, i dunno. I could see him flying in circles going farther and farther away and constantly squeaking until he was too far gone. I have already contacted the relevant instututions, but i know the chances of ever getting him back are incredibly slim. I have heard some good stories, so i'll keep hoping for a while, but damn, this bums me out.
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>>2176546
>who is intensely needy and also screams loud enough to cause ear damage for hours every day??

Well, men have been living with women for thousands of years, so.....
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>>2177576
You are pretty fucking stupid desu. That's just irresponsible of you. I hope you learn from your mistakes and won't do it with another bird that "didn't fly away".
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>>2177614
"desu"
Fuck off with that mate. There's a way of telling me what i already acknowledged without sounding like a 12 year old weeb.
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>>2176070

BIRDRIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLL
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>>2174893

If they aren't normally like that the you must be a very good owner ;)
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>>2177326
Just a comfort thing i guess. As long as they exercise substantially.
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>>2177309
Owner turned up 30 minutes after i made the post. Damnit, he was a spunky little bird.
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>>2177576
leave his cage outside in case he comes back
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I got my first green cheek on Monday. Any one know exactly why it loves going inside my shirt? Is it because its dark in there? Warm? She feel save? Heaven knows it isn't because it smells nice!
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>>2177666
It's the auto filter you prick. You sounded like a pussy who's blaming the bird for suddenly FLYING away. Guess what, he's a fucking bird.
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>>2177208

some of them like crawling into clothes, mine occasionally crawls into my sleeves... but mostly she prefers to chill on my shoulder and preen my hair

>>2177576

i wouldn't give up hope...

my greencheek did that once (now i only take her outside with a harness, i was relying on clipped wings but she can fly well with them clipped) cuz she didn't want to step up... she flew from tree top to tree top flock calling to me (even jumped down onto my shoulder once in between) 'til i'd get close then fly away again... eventually she got bored, jumped on my shoulder and came back home

she also flew outside the other day, went over to my s/o's sister (she was on our porch) and then back to the door (seemed like it was an accident) and let me take her in... but she was already headed back in by the time i got to the door so she didn't take off or anything

i've had 3 semi-tame budgies (my greencheek is the only really tame bird i have/have had) get out outside as well... one never left my garden, her mate did but came back 5 minutes later (i found him by whistling to him, cuz i make noise at all my birds and they respond... this has made finding them outside easier and honestly i'm pretty sure this is the biggest reason i've been able to get mine back), and 2 days ago one of the ones i have now got out and chilled in one of the trees here for a bit... my s/o and i stayed outside whistling to him, then brought an extra cage out and his friend (our other budgie, in their cage) + our greencheek out and let them call to him... he eventually answered (i started to worry after like an hour) and was just hanging out, so we put the cage near him with some millet and food and when he got bored of the tree he jumped in...

the only thing is i stayed outside 'til i found them every time, and kept whistling and calling to them 'til they answered... idk how much not doing that right away decreases your chances... but birds do come back, and you might find him...
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this >>2178192
wasn't for you >>2177208
*>>2178023

but just give it time and keep being nice i imagine and he'll see that you're friendly... though some birds are picky like that, and just have strong preferences
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>>2178192

not 2 days ago, my bad... it was however many days ago tuesday was, i'm shit at keeping track... here's a shitty pic of him in the tree, i took it once i realized all i could do was wait for him to come back on his own... i just put the cage he shares with his friend by him so they could talk and the open one closer to him and gardened nearby so i could keep an eye on him... try calling to your bird around your house and shit today, and like someone else suggested leaving a cage out...
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>>2178200
>just try and come up and get me motherfucker just try
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