Reptile & Amphibian General

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I hate general threads, they're bullshit.

Every snowflake is special

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seriously though, it's bullshit.

Have you ever seen two that are identicle ?

>>2013265
naw man, those shits are nasty. fuckkin olms or whatever. fuck those guys

20m grant . We had to know

Do the red things serve a purpose ? Like for attracting mates or ?

Massive gills that mate , im not educated in the way of reptiles , should i apologize for showing interest . I mean shit nigga dont you want to share your massive amount of knowledge .

if anyone has any suggestions as what the hell I should do with >>2012995 I'd appreciate it. If it does kick the bucket It is just a wild gecko but still I would be happier if I could get him to eat and live

>>2013281
I'm sorry that everyone on /an/ is bitter and jaded anon
but yeah olms (the first one) and mudpuppies (the second one) are amphibians, not reptiles
and the red things are gills

>>2013323
Geckos only eat once every other day. I'm surprised you were able to get it to eat twice daily for a while. Must have been hungry. In future, offer mealworms/roaches in a small smooth sided dish that they can't climb out of. Only offer food every other day. Also, you need to be dusting those insects with calcium +D3. And gutloading them if you haven't been.

Look up house gecko care on Google to make sure your temperatures are correct. Confirm whether or not house geckos need uv light (i dont know off hand). Do you have sufficient climbing decor and hides in the tank?

This is also winter and geckos slow down considerably and eat less from late November to March even if they don't go in to brumation.

>>2013243
>>2013265
>>2013272

So much freaking want
I love Caudates, Im hoping to get ahold of some pachytritons in a few years, hopefully they wont be banned

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>>2013392
Have been gutloading but not dusting.
From what I read everywhere says they do not require UV. I have several small branches/leaves for climbing/hiding along with a small 4''x6'' piece of sanded plywood leaned in the corner he has taken a liking to

Heres a picture of the poor little guy

4chan ruined frogs

>>2013400
Okay, I looked at some care sheets. Humidity is too low. Mist tank once daily. Gecko might be dehydrated.

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post monitors

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Ask me Leopard Gecko questions.

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what's the difference between geckos and lizards?

>>2013529
uhh
geckos ARE lizards?

>>2013529
That's a taxonomy question. All geckos are part of infraorder gekkota, which includes seven families of gecko. It gets complicated to answer this question in detail.

>>2013272
>>2013265
>>2013243

https://youtu.be/YEKDaG6HAcY?t=3m40s

Not a olm, but pretty neat regardless.

>>2013551
>It gets complicated to answer this question in detail.
"geckos are a kind of lizard" BAM!

>>2013565
I mean the link I've posted you silly willy :^)

>>2013500
Can I use regular ol' paper towels for my humid hideout? I'd mist it of course so it's moist.

>>2013588
Yep. I prefer paper towel for this. Less messy.

What's your favorite chameleon /herp/?

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>>2013694
jackson's. those horns are amazing

>>2013609
Awesome. Thanks!

>>2013694
Veiled, those crests are beaut

>>2013385
No worries , ignorance is bliss. Only ever had cats dogs and an iguana years ago . Just like animals but i can see how many here relate to these species easier

testing...

>>2014021
huh. that was weird. thread wouldn't load for some reason.

why did shit mods deleted all olms pics?

>>2014225

Because anon insulted their fuccboi (bugguy) in an unrelated thread.

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I just recently acquired a Pueblan Milksnake. I already have a Thayeri Kingsnake. I'm currently keeping them separate, but is there a chance that they can co-habitate? I know they're both cannibalistic, but I'd still like to know.

>>2014260
Put them together. I wonder which one will win.

>>2014260
No way. Do not cohab those two species ever.

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Almost a week into having my first leopard gecko juvenile. I had been feeding him/her 8 small mealworms every other day but the gecko still seems so hungry so I'm wondering if I should leave mealworms in the food dish all the time instead and monitor how much they are eating. Do geckos know when to stop eating or will my Leo eat itself to death? My gecko is about 4in long and not sure on the age.

>>2014380
Yes, increase feeding amounts. You can also feed daily for a few months. Leos will not eat themselves to death. Usually they will eat until they vomit once, lesson learned, and only eat what they need for the rest of their life.

Give him as much as he can eat in 15 minutes. That's a good rule o' thumb.

What do healthy pacman frogs have in terms of body composition? My juvenile looks like a tubby heart but I don't want him to get fat.

>>2014260
>maybe if they're both cannibalistic it'll cancel each other out

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>>2013237
Why is my snek so smug?

>>2014260
Are there ANY snakes you can cohab across species?

>>2014428
across species?
no, not unless you're crossbreeding, and even then it doesnt always work out

even within species its still ill-advised unless they're being housed together for breeding

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Does my turt baby need a bigger basking dock or does the size not really matter quite yet?

>>2014411
Pacman frogs are composed of a few vital body parts that I'll kindly list for you:

>a mouth
>a stomach
>nubs that carry the mouthstomach to food
>some skin connecting it all and I think maybe they might have eyes

Pacmen are naturally fat when fed well

>>2014450
That's fine for now. As long as the turtle can get out and bask, it's big enough.

>>2014438
only exception is garter snakes.

>>2014438
>crossbreeding
Could you crossbreed a Thayeri Kingsnake and a Pueblan Milksnake? I'm interested in what the babbys would look like.

>>2014489
they're both of the Lampropeltis genus, so I'd imagine its possible
but seeing as how king snakes love to eat other snakes, you probably have a 50/50 shot at either babies or someones getting eaten

If you're attached to either of them I'd advise against it. Plus what are you going to do if you end with a clutch of like 20 crossbreeds?

>>2014489
Probably? They're both colubrids. I know you can do king x corn. Looking up now...

Okay yes you definitely can cross king snakes with corns. It turns out most of the colubrids can breed with other colubrids successfully.

> * you can cross king snakes with MILK snakes, i meant

>>2014492
>Plus what are you going to do if you end with a clutch of like 20 crossbreeds?
I would have 20 more snakes.

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>>2014495
excellent reptile keeper logic!

Ive had a crested gecko for about a week and a half now. Ive made sure hes eating and has a safe enclosure but lately hes been on the ground more and hes really pale now. Is he just shedding or should I be worried? Hes only about 4 inches long

>>2014553
Pale means going in to shed. He's probably on the substrate to be at most humid part of tank. You can give the tank an extra mist in addition to the normal once per day for the next couple days to help.

Is your humidity in the 50%-80% range?

>>2014411
Bruh they are supposed to get fat, all they do is sit in their moss and snuggle up to the moisture in hopes of finding food.

>>2014380
When i had a baby i fed it 10 meal worms a day, and once every two weeks feed it 6 wax worms. They need the extra food because they haven't developed any fat on their tail.

>>2013694
Panther, they are a real pretty animal to keep. Too bad they only live to be 5 years old. They are absolute dolls.

>>2014563
It hovers around 50% at minimum. After misting it shoots to around 75% or so. He also seems to get more active after misting.

>>2014427
He knows....

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>>2013237
Why is everyone in this thread a fuckin leopard gecko/ball python/bearded dragon casual? Fucking normies get a real man's reptile or gtfo

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>>2014658
>everyone
>ignores the conversation about kingsnek and milksnek babbymaking

>>2014665
>kingsneks arent fucking casual tier

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>>2013588
You absolutely can but they lose moisture quickly.

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>>2014658
>not a crocodile monitor or a perentie
fucking normies calling other normies normies get out of my board REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2013567
Wyvern are a kind of dragon.

>>2014658
>nigger comes in here saying our pets aren't manly enough
>says he has a real man's herp
>fucker doesn't have a saltwater crocodile or wild-caught dart frogs

Get out, you're more plebian than anybody here

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>>2014699
I read somewhere that you shouldn't directly mist a leo as there skin is sensitive to that. Is this not true? Pic related is my guy that I just got( or girl. Haven't sexed it yet bc he/she is new to the environment. Don't want to stress it out too much than it already is).

>>2014820
It won't harm them but, like every species of gecko, they don't like it and it serves no purpose. There's no need to mist a leo tank at all if there is a moist hide.

>>2013500
Welcome back calyxise.
I got a heatlamp for my leo, and my question is, is she annoyed/scared when I keep my normal light on for a while into the night?
Got the heatlamp on from 8 til 20, but I'd like to keep my ceiling light on until around 23 pm...
The ceiling light is not above the terrarium, but it will be reached by some light.

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I just got home from work and I found this
He managed to get on the only vine I thought he would never climb.
Is it safe for him to be on this vine thats 3 feet off the ground? It's well secured but I dont see how he will get down.

>>2014841
>like every species of gecko
My l. williamsi like it. They run over to me when I have the mister and then drink water droplets off themselves. Cute as fuck.

>>2014939
He'll be fine, if he got up there he can get down.

>>2014939
Oh, haha, yeah don't worry about that. Cresties are basically the reptile equivalent of a squirrel when it comes to climbing. Better thab squirells even, because of the lamellae.

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I think the dubia I gave Fronk is a bit too big.

Is it okay for an underweight beardie to brumate? I got one a few months ago that was really thin. I've gotten her to gain some weight since then, but she's recently stopped eating for seemingly no reason. She doesn't have parasites or anything like that. I'm pretty sure she is brumating. She weighs about 287 g right now, and has only lost a few grams since she stopped eating. Can I let her do her thing, or do I need to intervene?

Hey guys. I was the guy asking about about crested geckos in the last thread. I've been doing my research. I've had a lot of conflicting on cage size. would this be able to house one?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000QFR638/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?qid=1449812815&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=crested+gecko&dpPl=1&dpID=51cdq6-QqmL&ref=plSrch
also, would I be able to add another later on? or would I have to get a bigger one. (assuming this is even optimal)

So are some types of reptiles friendlyish or are they mostly decoration like fish? Geckos are cute as fuck though I don't think I'd want reptiles

>>2013237
Alright lads I have like a 300 dollar budget (animal alone) what kind of lizard should I get that doesnt get above 5 feet?

>inb4 normie crested/leopard geckofags
>inb4 sneks

>>2015106
depends on what you mean by friendlyish
many types of lizards, especially the larger kinds do learn to associate their owner with food and safety to varying degrees
>>2015108
you should get whatever kind of lizard you think you can adequately care for
peruse fauna classifieds and kingsnake.com to get an idea of what you like

>>2015108
300 dollars worth of anoles.

>>2015106
As far as entry level animals go, blue tongue skinks and bearded dragons can show almost dog-like affection with gentle, daily handling.
>>2015118
I'd consider my experience and level of care to be intermediate to advanced... I already have a black roughneck who is doing great but Im gonna have an empty 55 gallon tank in a month or so... Moving the big guy into a 3x3x4 wooden/plexi custom made tank. Already have a couple of things I've been thinking about owning but just wanted to see if anyone here had anything new to throw in.

>>2015124
Anyone own/have experience with Leachianus Geckos? Those things are fucking SICK

>>2015086
That seems good for one gecko if you furnish it effectively.
They do best alone anyways.

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reeeing in irl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKPdNvH800&feature=youtu.be

>>2015125
bugguy has a leachie

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>>2015108

>>2015086
The description says 12"×12"×18". That is bare minimum size for a single adult crestie. Recommend 18×18×18. 18×18×24 if you want to house two females.

>>2015108

Uromastyx
Blue tongue skink
ackie monitor (only if you know what you're doing)
Tortoise
Leachianus gecko
Agama

Ackies are the trickiest to care for of this list just because they need very hot basking spot AND high humidity. As opposed to uromastyx which just need the heat in a bone dry tank.

>>2015206
Croc skinks are tiny and super shy though. Not what anon seems to be looking for.

>>2015239
Also jewelled lacerta. Those are beautiful.

>>2015121
This t b h. 100 gallon tank with good vertical climbing. You'll have a personal army.

>>2014957
Why would you ever keep an anole? We have them out the ass here.

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>>2015245
>tfw we have those in the wild where I live
I've never seen one though :^(

Their scientific name changed, it's Timon lepidus. so it should be the jewelled timon now :^)

Pic not related, but are these on the pet market? We have these as well, and they are gorgeous but never saw them for sale in the international market.

>>2015291
Some people don't live in the tropics.

>>2015302
tropics living fag here, can confirm that there are a fuck to here. there are usually more iguana, but the baby population got fucked this year.

>>2015304
*fuck ton

>>2015302
anolis exist in some parts of the US as well. Even some cuban anoles exist there I think, as a invasive specie.

>>2015294
>jewelled timon

Fucking taxonomy changes based on season and mood of whoever decides on the change i swear.

>>2015313
Science gonna science man

>>2015310
Yeah, but they're all in the southern states.

>>2014702
But not all dragons are wyverns.

If it walks/bears weight on all four limbs, even if the front limbs double as wings, its a dragon. A wyvern will walk on two legs like a bird or therapod.

Does sphagum moss hold moisture for a significantly longer time than paper towels?
I'm going on a trip for like three days, so I'd like to not have to worry about my snakes humid hide while she's in shed and I'm gone

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So I recently got this Rainbow Boa and I know they're nippy as babies. I haven't been bit yet, so can anyone describe how it feels to get bit by hooked teeth?

>>2015373
when they're babies like that?
You probably wont even feel it at all

>>2015373
Like being bit by one of the bigger anoles in your backyard. They got the same kinda teeth, it's not bad.

>>2015373
might draw blood but probably not... The pain of the bite isnt the bad part. Small snakes have a tendency to latch on to stuff so big that they cant actually unhinge their jaws to let go... Can be kind of a bitch to get them off

>>2015660
I had a baby king snake that used to latch on. I would just dunk my hand in water and he'd eventually let go to surface for air. Problem solved.

He never latched on down to his jaw, though.

>>2013237
should i get a pixie frog and name it rick ross

>>2015373
Doesn't hurt at all. Its more surprising than anything.

>>2015405
Anole bite hurts more. They really clamp down. My BRBs just tend to tag me and let go immediately.

>>2015373
You don't feel the teeth, you feel the impact. I didn't even feel my 6.5' boa constrictor's bite despite the fact I heard a loud sound like velcro being ripped apart when he let go. I did feel a bit of an impact, but not much.

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My leopard gecko hasn't been eating much in recent weeks. She is an adult and when she was growing up, she ate a lot. I give her some meal worms and when they wriggle around, she gets excited and walks up to them ready to strike but then she just licks them or nibbles on them and ignores them. The same with crickets. Not sure what could be causing it, temps are fine and everything. I think her tail might also be shrinking because of this. Can someone tell me if her tail size is normal? Pic related

Another question, what is the best way to store 100-150 crickets together without them eating each other? Do I just need a bigger container or is it not feasible to store that many together? They certainly have enough food so I guess they're trying to remove perceived competition for resources.

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Is there a way to judge if your UV light is working by looking at the animals shit hardness?

I can't believe the hardness of this shit my guy did today, despite having a strong damn globe in there.

>>2014492
>you probably have a 50/50 shot at either babies or someones getting eaten
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about snake keeping/breeding, couldn't you just affix some manner of muzzle to the faces of the snakes to prevent them from opening their mouths? Or even just use rubber bands? Or would they try to constrict each other to death?

>>2015803
Both snakes are constrictors.

>>2015782
Hasn't been eating much or hasnt been eating at all? Still eating and passing stool/urates but smaller amounts is normal in winter months.

Crickets; one nice big sterilite tub with lots of air holes. Fill tub half full with cardboard egg crates. Cannibalism goes way down when they can all snuggle in to the egg crates.

>>2015873
Thanks for the reply. I don't think she has been eating at all. I cleaned out the cage ~2 weeks ago and there is only one piece of poop yet several urates. I have only seen her ingest one meal worm in all that time.

For the crickets, I just have a container with an area of 17x11in(43x28cm). I assume I need a bigger space or just less crickets? How many could I fit comfortably in this space?

>>2015976
Hmm... try some different insects; phoenix worms, butterworms, small hornworms.

About 75 crickets in a bin that size. The larger the bin the less problems you will have with keeping them alive.

>>2016001
Thank you very much for your help

>>2015323

FL here, I just caught one, they are cute little critters.

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>Tfw no Pepe Grenouille pet

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Just got this new crested gecko, this is it's enclosure. Any tips? Nothing in that bowl on the floor right now, may use it to prop up my moist hide when I get one. Also, on that note, what can I use to create a moist hide for my lizard outside of stuff from the pet store?

Open to any tips and tricks you can tell me

>>2016174
Bring the gecko back, scrap everything and then start reading up on basic reptile care and enclosures.

>>2016183
But why do you say this

>>2016191
Because it looks like you just threw a bunch of shit you found in your house into a plastic tub that's too small for the gecko.

It's an arboreal species in a tub with too little height and pretty much no stuff to climb around on. As well as nothing to hide.

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>>2016174
How big is that tub? What type of ventilation do you have?

There's no need for full sphagnum moss substrate. They don't need that high and constant humidity. A big water dish and some sprays every so often is enough. At least in my experience.

The animal needs places to "perch". My gecko spends all day behind fake plants while in vertically diagonal piece of wood where he can simply stand on. When he comes out at night he usually goes to more flat surfaces and just stands there. You don't have any places like that.

Pic related is my terrarium. It has more dead leaves now, I need to get some sort of led strip in there to provide more lightning.
Behind the big cork piece there's another piece of wood and the fake plants, where he "perches" and sleeps during the day. At night he stands on the top and bottom platforms a lot.

He rarely sleeps on the bottom left gap and inside the cork. So providing some different hiding places would also be good.

If you can't get a better setup than that for now I would do as >>2016183 said.

>>2015803
Not only are there no snake muzzles, that would be rather inhumane to say the least. A rubber band could easily cut off parts of their face, I'm not even sure why you thought any of that would be ok?

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>>2016202
The tub is 12 inches by 12 inches. The gecko itself is only 2.5 inches now.

As for ventilation, I have a lot of holes drilled in the lid. Does there need to be another spot for ventilation?

Thanks for the help, I'm going to work on it. Pic related is the enclosure now.

>>2016228
Please purchase a digital hygrometer and put
the probe in the tank about a third of the way up from the bottom. You're looking for a baseline humidity of 50-60% along with a daily spike to higher percentage when you mist. If it's too low with just the paper towel, go ahead and add in a couple handfuls of moss.

Size of tank is okay right now but you will need to upgrade that in about 6 months.

Pick up a cork round from pet store and put it in. Geckos love those and your's needs a dark place to hide.

You can offer much less food than that. Baby cresties only eat about a half bottle cap worth a day.

>>2016319
Thank you, I appreciate the help. Where can I find a hygrometer? And I asked for a hiding tube at the pet store but they had none

>>2016346
Pet store should have hygrometers in the reptile aisle. If not, amazon sells them.

For hides, there's lots of stuff you can use instead of cork bark. Section of PVC pipe from hardware store and wrap some plastic plants around it, paper towel roll, section of cardboard poster tubing from post office, etc. Suction cup shower soap dishes work great as perches. Make sure to thoroughly wash any plastic or PVC from hardware store before putting it in to get off whatever gunk left on it from the factory.

>>2016346
Wal-Mart also sells them. They're for homes, but a $15 hygrometer/thermometer combo at Wal-Mart is going to be of way better quality than a $15 hygrometer on Amazon or at the pet store.

>>2016388
True. Or at the very least of equal quality for a fraction of the price. Just make sure the one you buy has a probe so you don't have to put the entire thing in the tank.

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is there something wrong with his gums, or are they supposed to look like that?

>>2015239
>Ackies are the trickiest to care for
wow you don't know what you're talking about.

>>2015788
no, you fucking weirdo.

>>2016487
nigga looks like Arnold's granpa

>>2016497
Of that particular list of herps. Which one do you think is more difficult? I can maybe grant you tortoise but the rest are very easy.

Ackie climate could be made easier if you live in an already very humid environment. If in non coastal north America where humidity is very low much of the year, the high basking temp in addition to the moderate to high humidity is not an easy balance to achieve without running in to problems one way or the other.

>>2016534
>Uromastyx
>Blue tongue skink
>ackie monitor (only if you know what you're doing)
>Tortoise
>Leachianus gecko
>Agama
so, I've kept all of those but leachies. Ackies are easier than Uros, BTS and plenty of tortoises. You serious have that hard a time with humidity? just put a goddamn water dish in there, shits easy. It's more work to get a day's worth of salad ready for a uro than it is to do everything for an ackie for a week. The only way I found ackies difficult is that one of mine was bitey and I'm apparently a bit allergic to it so my finger would be stiff for a couple days.

>>2016538
I said tricky, not time consuming. Preparing fresh veg is something a beginner keeper won't have any issie with. Getting humidity right in a hot enclosure is not always as simple as putting a fucking water dish in if your relative humidity in the building is regularly below 30%.

just tried to feed my bp a small rat. she struck it now she's trying to eat it legs first. it's been about 30 minutes now she's had it stuck in her mouth trying to eat it from the back. what do?

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>>2016558
tfw living in a place where it is constantly over 80% humidity.

>>2016558
>etting humidity right in a hot enclosure is not always as simple as putting a fucking water dish in if your relative humidity in the building is regularly below 30%.
oh no, you might also have to cover part of the container with something. It's so tricky. Oh wait, not tricky, simple. I meant simple.

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>>2016350
Worked a bit more on a better enclosure. I got a hygrometer/thermometer and the humidity is around 75% after a misting. I put reptile carpet on the bottom for looks and a humid hide made from pvc pipe and sphagnum moss. Also got a new tub that's like an inch taller with a better lid

>>2016643
Looks good. :)

>>2016643
Looks a lot better. I'd put some vines in. Mine fucking loves his vines.

>>2016643
Mine would will only ever hide in the tubes if they are elevated

>>2016663
Thank you, glad to hear it

>>2016688
I would but I'm afraid the tank is already a bit overstocked with decor. Plus at this point, the little twerp just finds a spot and DOES NOT move from it. I expected this though, aren't they usually pretty afraid when they get brought home? Maybe I'll add some if I see he's climbing around a lot more when he starts getting adjusted to his new home

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>>2016698
We'll have to wait and see what he likes once he starts moving around more. Right now he's sitting like pic related and hasn't moved hardly at all for a few hours

>>2016702
>>2016705
Wait until it gets later. Mine hides during the day and he's all over the place after 7.

>>2016639
>have a tank
>Covered all sides and most of top
>large water dish
>humidity regularly sits at ~38% unless I mist regularly
so simple

>>2016729
humidity really isn't that hard

>Do a ton of research on reptiles
>Buy a crested gecko
>He isnt eating
>Call the store and ask wgst they fed him
>They say crickets
Is that bad? Hes refused to eat anything other than pieces of a banana I rolled in CGD so theyd be a little nutricious. Is there a way to get him on CGD?

Im planning on buying the banana pangea tomorrow. I hope he'll eat that

>>2016764
How long have you had it? They might not eat for a while when you bring them home

>>2016736
Not even that guy, but you're a cunt. Why even respond when you're going to offer literally zero help or anything? Obviously it isn't working for this guy, you telling him it's not hard isn't going to make it not hard for him

>>2016766
3 weeks. He's eating the bananas, but is refusing the diet. I think its because the store had him on only crickets, but his gut instinct says soft fruit is good.

>>2016729
just because something is simple does not mean a retard can't find a way to fuck it up.

>>2016764
>>ton of research on reptiles
>>the store
you lose.

>>2016771
I did my own research first. I asked the store so I could know what he was used to. Everything says a cricket only diet is horrible so Im worried he wont accept a premade diet ever. I really like him so if I have to I will put in the extra work to feed him special smoothies if I need to.

>>2016774
Mine was the same way. He wouldn't eat for the first 5 days I tried only CGD. I did not relent. He did not starve.

>>2016777
He didnt eat for almost 2 weeks before I caved in.
Unrelated, he just shed for the first time since I got him today.

>>2016779
Damn, son.

>>2016779
Are you 100% sure? Cresteds can eat so little CGD it looks like they havent touched it. I have some small geckos who look like they never eat anything, but do.

I have 2 African Clawed Frogs, and recently they have been staying at the top of the tank. They used to burrow under a rock, but I moved the aquarium to my new home 3 weeks ago so they no longer have their little cubby. I would say they are at the bottom of the tank 80%+ of the time, but sometimes I'll walk by and one or both of them are floating at the top, entire body submerged but eyes and mouth out of the water. When I walk near the tank they go back down, I assume the vibration startles them.

They are eating fine and behave normally, just like to poke their faces out of the water. Is this anything to be concerned about? They share the tank with a large pleco, two Dalmatian mollies, 3 giant danios, and 4 zebra danios. (I know they will probably eat the zebras eventually)

I use an aquarium gardening claw to "hand" feed the frogs so I know they aren't going hungry. I'll feed them mysis and brine shrimp, occasionally I'll feed them bloodworms.

Tl;Dr my 2 ACF's will float at the top of the tank with just their faces over the surface, otherwise behave normally. Should I be concerned?

>>2016768
mash up other kinds of fruit and mix half/half with cgd. also, yes the Pangea is going to help. i have never known a crested gecko to turn its nose up at Pangea, all of them love it.

Go easy on the bananas. It binds calcium and so is not good for them as a regular thing. Try mashed grapes, mango, papaya, apple sauce (unsweetened).

>>2016767
why would i, the basics are all covered in the thread. just read.

>>2016784
He looks like hes lost weight. Ive only fed him nanners twice because he needs to eat something.

>>2016786
Ill definately buy it for him then.

>>2016782
He looks a bit skinnier than when I got him

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>>2016784
when my gargoyle was a hatchling she gave me fits about her eating. i night i finally saw her eating and realized why it looked like she hadn't been touching her food; she would never lick from the middle of the dish, always slid her tongue right down the edge. This resulted in no lick marks of any kind visible on the surface.

She's all grown up now and has changed this habit. Now her thing is to wait until the cgd surface dries a bit and will bite in to it like a like it's a solid substance.

>>2016794
I know when mine was younger he would have a bulking phase, where he started looking fat, and a lengthening phase where he was getting longer but it made him look skinny. I think that's typical, I know others have had the same thing happen and I'm told it's typical.

Somone might call me retarded for that, though.

I got to a point where I started giving him what seemed like not enough food and spreading it super thin to see if he was, in fact, eating. THEN I noticed the missing food.

>>2016883
>I got to a point where I started giving him what seemed like not enough food and spreading it super thin to see if he was, in fact, eating. THEN I noticed the missing food.
I'll try doing that. He does seem to be longer after shedding so that might be why he looks skinnier

Is it okay to handle your juvenile leopard gecko daily? For the first few days I let him/her alone completely but now I try and spend a very brief period of time once a day holding my gecko. At first I just put my hand in the cage but now I've started having him/her on my palm. The gecko seems nervous and will either sit still it sometimes run away but doesn't bite or scream. I don't want to stress out the poor thing too much but I also want to start working on taming. What do?

>>2016949
sell the gecko and get rats. you were clearly expecting a pet to play with

>>2016949
No. Daily is too much contact. Keep it to 2-3 times per week, 15 minutes max per session.

>>2016949
have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnb0s03TaaM

>>2014897
bumping

>>2017350
If you're really concerned you could make some blinds out of black paper.

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Got myself a CSerpents rack + a new Vivarium Electronics thermostat for Christmas. The guy running the business, Chris, is super knowledgeable and even advised me to downside my purchase based on my snake and gecko's weights.

Pictured is the snoot, who sadly came with mites and is being treated.

>>2017391
lol that photo.

Looking to get a leo, what are some cool looking but not so expensive morphs? I'm fine with the normal black & yellow but its nice to explore options. What are your personal favorites? If you have any nice looking leo's please post.

>>2017543
Most common Leo morphs are

Tremper albino
Bell albino
Blizzard/blazing blizzard
Patternless
Mack snow
Hypo/super hypo/super hypo carrot tail
Tangerine

Google for photo examples of those. Things get more expensive when you have a leo with multiple genes combined or rare/hard to breed recessive combinations.

>>2017543
I love Super Hypo Tangerines and SH Carrot Tails!

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>>2017570
My favorite morph is sunglow. There are some variations on the morph's appearance but basically it's a patternless body, orange, redish brown spots on head and tail, some tangerine pigment in tail, and white belly.

so, i have a corn who had to trade off of his bedding for mats and towels (he loves playing in towels and blankets with me, so i bought a bunch of small ones and rotate as they get dirty)

the only problem is, he seems to consider his green mat a "green towel" and just digs under it and hangs out down there on the glass

he had to change in the first place from getting little snakey ahsma from the dust (which he shouldn't have, if the bedding was the quality it said)
im wondering if anyone has any other sensitive suggestions, that would possibly let him actually burrow more. iv done research, but alot of sites are a bit generic in their descriptions. people who suggest paper, only say news paper and paper towels. not if shredded or not changes anything. Or if other paper types work. the same goes for material. the same goes for other materials "only use this eco terra shit" or "nigga, why aint you using coconut fibers err day".


tl:dr substrate suggestions for sensitive corn. natural habitat similarity not necessary

So do leopard geckos brumate?

My guy is really sluggish, doesn't move around at all, doesn't want to eat much, and spends most of his time on the far end of the cool side of his enclosure.

>>2017587
My tangerine tornado carrottail nearly looks like a sunglow. Maybe she's a little less orange/yellow and more brownish.

>>2017665
You could just use topsoil. Won't be dusty and he'll be able to burrow just fine.

>>2017718
Thats what my guy is doing the past month.

He did this last year too.

I know it's not an answer, but just letting you know I'm in the same boat.

>>2017665
Shredded paper isn't great for snakes (eco bedding etc).

I suggest trying a different brand of aspen chips, see how that goes. Chips, mind you. Not shavings. The chips are less dusty.

>>2017721
Tangerine tornado is a line bred version of the super hypo carrot tail baldy, emphasizing darker oranges. That's a pretty fancy morph you have there, more rare than sunglows. Only produced by urban gecko of Canada I think?

A sunglow is a super hypo tangerine carrot tail with one of the three albino strains; ie, tremper sunglow, bell sunglow, or jungle sunglow.

>>2017718
>>2017725
Mine is doing this as well

So I've been working on building a paludarium for a pair of Phelsuma laticauda and wanted to get some opinions on colors for cement. I'm using the cement to separate the water from land and I want it to look as natural as possible. Would brown with a hint of terra cotta red work well or should I just go for a really dark brown color?

>>2013237
My florida king has consistent dry sheds, Ive been informed they don't need that much humidity... he has a soaking bowl on the cool side.... and I live in south louisiana so ambient fucking humidity is 60-80% year round peaking around 100% in the summer.

Should I lightly dampen my aspen on the warm side weekly to keep it extra humid? I just don't want to cause mold development or anything.

>>2017891
Nah. You could put in a moist hide though. Better that than misting the aspen.

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>>2017752
Thanks for the info, pretty nice to know!
I'm from Europe, and I got her from a local breeder.
I'm really happy to have her, but if the guy ever has a sunglow girl, I'll get one of those as well.
She's my first leo, got her about 2 and 1/2 months ago, she looks healthy (fat tail), eats okay (I think), poops every 2-3 days, shed 3 times so far (was shedding already the day after I got her) without me having to assist her, so I'm pretty confident that I'm doing a lot right, that's why I'm thinking about getting a second one!
Pic rel is her, sand is only the filling in between the tiles. Got a humid and a dry hide on the warm side (air/ ground temp under the stone construction is around 30-32°C, inside the dry is about 28-29.3, cold is around 23-24.), 1 hide in the middle, 1 hide on the cold side.
She however mostly stays on the warm side.
How can I get that side even warmer? I switched from 75W bulb to 100W, but there's hardly a difference. I'm tempted to switch to a heat map, but as it's winter, I need a bulb anyways....(Or am I simply worrying too much? I mean, like I said above, she's really doing fine, she even crawls on my hand from time to time whilst feeding. The breeder guy said that my temps are okay, that "I could even go colder"(but I'm def. not doing that, no worries)).

>>2017943
Temps are good, no worries. As long as leo has one spot that gets up to 30-32 that's quite alright.

Nice setup! Tile with sand to fill the gaps works well and looks great too.

Leos very rarely have a problem shedding if they have access to a moist hide. I had one that loved his moist hide so much I started to worry he was spending too much time inside it and would get a respiratory infection. ha!

>>2013237
Could that thing bite my dick off? It looks like it'd be nice to put my penis in there

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>>2017966
That would hurt! Pyxie frogs have pretty decent jaw strength. :O

Can reptiles feel love/attachment to their owners

>>2017969
I don't think reptiles are immortal, anon.

>>2017973
No, they can recognize humans as a source of food and tolerate handling at best.

They do not feel affection, even though your average bearded dragon keeping retard will try to tell you they do.

>>2017975
Yeah okay try telling that to my cat and dog

>>2017979
>cats and dogs are reptiles
put your trip back on, bugguy

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>>2017974
that's what they want you to think

>>2017969
...I wish someone would buy me reptiles for Christmas. :C

>>2017975
Damn :(

>>2017998
If it makes you feel better, they're not really able to hate you either, so there's that.

>>2017963
Mine likes hiding there as well extremely often, I already had the same worries, but then again, she knows that there is another warm hide with less humidity, soo...
I think she likes hiding there cos it's a bit colder I guess, as well as water droplets to drink maybe.
Thanks for the kind words on my setup, I can take a few pictures of the whole thing tomorrow. Only thing that I'm also a bit concerned/ annoyed about is that crickets have tons of hiding spots. I usually let them in for about 2 hours to give her time to eat, but she doesn't always find them, so I usually make sure that I see her eat one cricket + 2-ish mealies every 2-3 days, then I let her hunt for the rest.
Also, >>2014897 was my question, what are your thoughts on it? Does she simply have to "learn" to deal with it?

>>2018001
The light in the room isn't a big deal. You can test it to see if she's annoyed by turning the light off earlier and seeing if she comes out more. Even if she is bothered this isn't the kind of thing that will badly stress them out. It just might cause her to spend more time in her hides during that time.

>>2017969
dont anoles generally live for like 6 years max?
Should have a turtle or iguana there instead imo

>>2018007
afaik chameleons live for like 3-4 years too

>>2018004
Ah, okay, thanks.
Yeah, thats the one thing that's a bit of a shame with leos, you barely see them during the day. Mine now kinda knows when the heatlamp goes out, so I usually see her at least half an our before somewhere outside of her hides.

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Placed a hold on this guy.
Thinking of naming him Wedge, because so damn orange.

>>2018014
That's a cheesy name.

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>>2018017

>>2013237
BRING ME SOLO AND THE WOOKIE

>>2018014
nice! Good choice on breeder by the way. Steve Sykes (Geckos Etc.) is good people. I want to get a western hoggy from him but they're not allowed in my province of Canada. ;-;

Thinking of picking up a corn snake soon, will be my first. I've been reading up on caring for them but can you guys give me any general advice, in particular how I should set up my viv? Also does anybody have good or bad experiences with rehab snakes?

>>2018045
They're easy. Paper towel or aspen for substrate. Two or three hides. Make sure the hides are not too big. Snakes like them best if they can curl up inside and still be touching the outer edges on all side. Big wide shallow water dish. Ask whoever you get snek from what size mice it is currently feeding on and when last feed was before you pick it up. Under tank heater for heat. Put temperature probe in the warm side hide.

Never taken care of a rehab snake. Not sure.

>>2018056
also a branch or some pvc pipe or something for snake to climb. corns enjoy climbing on occasion.

also also, make sure you can securely lock the screen top/front access door. they can be sneaky little ninjas if they want out.

anyone buy from underground reptiles. been looking into them, but they seem pretty ok.

>>2018059
looking at their cresties btw. if that matters.

>>2018056
>>2018058

The shop bundles a heat mat and a few odds and ends with the vivarium i'm planning to buy, is an under tank heater preferable?

>>2018059
>>2018062
Avoid Underground Reptiles. They're incredibly hit or miss. Just look up Underground Reptiles on Youtube. You'll see.

>>2018037
Hahahah, wish I had the remaining $150 to snatch him up ASAP. But sadly, bills first.

>>2018087
so does anyone have any recommendations for a good crestie breeder?

>>2018045
I have good experiences with rehab snakes. Most of them are already used to handling, so they're a lot less nippy.

Though one of my corns escaped and still hasn't returned. I have no idea how the sneaky bastard did it; it's a lockable, sliding front door.

So yeah, as Anon said, make sure the thing is escape proof. They're Houdinis.

>>2018090
Where are you and what's your budget?

Cheapest is always Craiglist adoption.

Then there's designers like Urban Gecko and specialized breeders.

>>2018096
I can go $50 to $150

>>2018098
That sounds like your local Craigslist to me. Most online/specialized breeders charge a flat $50 for overnight shipping (because it's a live animal), which leaves you with not a lot of money for a breeder crestie.

But it's Christmas, so tons of people are trying to adopt out animals, especially reptiles.

You might be in luck, might even be able to snag a crestie will its habitat for that.

>>2018101
well fuck. reptiles aren't an in fashion per were I live

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>>2017975
Why then do they respond more positively to an owner, or the most trusted person, who will feed them then?
Do they like being touched? What is the purpose of them climbing? Do they even recognise something that's bad or a threat? And why then was my beardie not at all threatened, but actually curious about a massive cat running around?

>>2018115
Hm, might look into smaller scale breeders, then. The only ones I know of are in Tumblr.

Consequently, waiting for a local reptile show, or the closest reptile show to you.

>>2018117
I guess ill have to look for small time then. thanks for the info

>>2018120
Any pet stores near you? Cresties are the second most common gecko.

>>2018121
they don't have lizards. fishes, pups, boas, but no fucking lizards.

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Posting the African desert rain frog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBkWhkAZ9ds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igwn_lsFQcY

>>2018065
Yes you want an under tank heater for a corn. It's a lot more energy efficient and is the least complicated way to heat them.

>>2018120
Which country do you live in? Reptile expos are pretty common even if the local pet stores don't readily stock lizards.

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>>2018096
The Urban Gecko and Northern Gecko (Mark Orfus) are the two best gecko breeders in Canada. I have two cresties and a garg from Northern and another crestie from TUG. Awesome service from both of them. Northern Gecko is especially good if you're looking for non-garg/crestie New Caledonians. Mark also breeds leachies, sarasinorum, chahoua, and E. Agricolae/Vieillardi.

>>2018157
United States Virgin Islands

>>2018166
oh geez. Yep, small breeder or save up some cash and ship one in from the mainland. :/

>>2018154

Alright i'll look into that, thanks

>>2017718
>>2017725
>>2017753
I've been tricking mine into eating by offering his regular feeders after a butter worm.

>>2018014
Thats a nice looking gecko.

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>>2018171
I literally live in the perfect environment for most reptiles. but it's a bitch to get any.

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I saw this on a bike ride the other day.

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What types of feeder fish are good for pacmen? Wanna introduce a lil more variety to my chubster since he refuses to eat mealworms

My ball python won't eat and hasn't since I purchased him maybe 2.5 months ago. He did poop after about...two weeks? So we figure he had just eaten. Gone through three rats, the guy we bought him from informed us he'll eat live medium feeder rats.

Please advise, we love him!

>>2018230
reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>2018231
Not a snake expert or even an owner, but to my knowledge, ball pythons are infamous for going on hunger strikes. It wouldn't surprise me if the new environment has him a bit stressed and he just doesn't wanna eat. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless he's showing signs of sickness otherwise. Just keep offering food and he'll probably eat eventually. Gove him some time to acclimate, too.

>>2018254
He seems pretty okay!
He hides often, but I'm told they are a skiddish breed and like to hide. His color is really good just worried he'll starve...

>>2018255
Yeah, most snakes are very keen on hiding and will spend most of their time doing so. And to my knowledge, a snake can go roughly around a year without food, depending on age and health. Unless there's something wrong with him, I'm sure he'll eat once he's hungry :)

>>2018231
I'm not a snake guy, with that being said leave a thawed rat in his tank over night. Should be gone by morning.

>>2018231
how old is it? if you don't know then what is it's weight / length?

>>2018263
We were told 5 years, he is roughly 4 foot.
>>2018260
Will try this with his latest rat tomorrow.

>>2018230
Goldfish

>>2018230
why the fuck would you give it fish then? offer a greater variety of inverts such as roaches, locusts, earthworms

>>2018293
goldfish are shit tier feeders. they contain a lot of enzymes that destroy vitamin B1 and can lead to a deficiency

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>>2018227
KILL IT

>>2018231
It's actually perfectly common for ball pythons to go off feed.

If you're worried, try feeding him live. You're going to have to monitor the mouse/rat and all, look up Youtube videos on how to do this safely.

Balls can go without food for six months, so...

>>2018014
Just made my last payment on this dude!

He'll get here tomorrow.

>>2018014

that nigga looking fly as fuck look at them little feet he bout to turn up

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Frog with best name reporting it.

Fuckin "mountain chicken"

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so I have house gecko and cuban tree frog that I caught in mid florida ( invasive species).
I researched some care sheets and I understand the humidity aspect, but do these creatures really need the thermal gradient from 78 85 with hot spot 90? like... I see these geckos/ frogs just hanging outside if it is not so cold.

>>2013400
what do u do for heat? I caught a house gecko too.. hoping they do ok in room temp around 76- 79 degree F

>>2018601
caresheets are written for ideal temperature gradient to maximize life span of the herp. So, no they don't strictly need those things but they will be healthier if you provide. This is a small part of the reason captive animals live longer than wild ones generally; aside from predation, disease, etc.

>>2013237

>those fucking flame decals

didnt kno u could pimp ur frog to look like guy fiery

>>2018614
ha! cool. So my house gecko and cuban tree frogs will do fine in room temp., sort of like crested geckos right? although it may not be "ideal", nothing in nature is really "ideal" so whateves its fine? lol

>>2018685
In nature the animal gets to choose what's best for it though. It can take advantage of light and heat when it's available, or it can slow it's metabolism when it's cold. They can also bask and move around to find ideal temps. Constant room temp ignores their needs to find ideal temps. Id recommend a hermit crab heat pad. It's small, cheap, safe for plastic containers and let's the gecko choose when it needs heat and when it wants to cool off.

>>2018685
I didn't say that. Besides, it's really easy to provide a temperature gradient. You can put a small heat mat against the side of your tank as anon above suggested. Or, put a normal 30w incandescent bulb on the top of the tank, set for a 12 hours on during day and 12 hours off at night cycle. About 30w-40w should give you the desired 10 degree temperature increase below the bulb. If it's too hot, move the bulb a couple inches further away.

I semi recently got finishes with my iguana enclosure and was wondering how long it would take for my iguana to outgrow it.
Current it is 3''9'''x4'x5'6''(it was supposed to be larger by about half a foot on each side but the fucking boy at home depot cut the wood all fucked up and I didnt realize until I had started sanding and finishing the walls.

I do let him freely move about the room from around 9:00 to 8:00 but he spends most of his time perched inside the cage under his basking light so hes not confined for most of the day and can sit in the windowsil or on my bed/desk if when he pleases. But I digress I just would like an estimate to how long his current enclosure will be suitable.

>>2018785
I found this for you http://www.anapsid.org/iguana/agesize.html

But thats just so you have a quick answer. An experienced owner may come along.

I've got grout hides for my leopard gecko, his moist hide smells of mildew after two weeks.

At that point I bleach it, scrub it and rinse it very well.

I had tried using mod podge to seal it, but that only made it worse so I've scraped it all out.

I have non-toxic Water-based wood finish.

Any reason I cannot use that?

My ball just finished shedding, I noticed she has a little bit attached to like the last half inch of her tail
should I moisten it and try to get it off, or is it even anything to concern myself over?

>>2018792
Probably easier to just use a Tupperware container with hole cut in the side. Dress up the outside of it if you want it to look naturalistic.

>>2018797
Sure. Dab some water on and make a gently rolling motion against it to loosen the shed. If it doesn't come off, don't worry. Just moisten it every other day so it doesn't dry out and start to constrict; it will come off on the next shed.

How is your humidity in the tank?

>>2018809
normally I make sure it plenty high when she goes into shed. But I was away on a small trip, so I had to leave my family in charge of misting.
and because they're a bunch of weenies and also not around here late at night, the humidity probably wasn't super great when she actually shed.

>>2018797
Yes, I'd work to get it off, if left on her tail, it could cut off the circulation and she could lose the tip of her tail. That's normally more common with snakes that have thin tails like corns or garters, but I've heard of it happening with balls, too.

what is the best online shop to purchase reptiles?

Ball pythons in particular.

>>2018905
>Find one you like on Fauna Classifieds or kingsnake.com
>cross reference the seller with fauna classified's Board of Inquiry to make sure they're trustworthy (optional, but recommended)

this should really be added to the OP or something

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>>2015782
If shes only been refusing food recently it could just be because of the cold weather, tail size looks fine and its not unusual for them to hardly eat all winter

It would be easier to not use crickets at all, theyre not that good nutritionally and carry a lot of parasites, dubias are a better option if youre putting in the effort to keep them to be honest

>>2018913
>file name
Kek that's cute

>>2018909
Really? I kinda avoided them because they creep me out. I also would worry about them escaping, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to look into them.

>>2018973

A smooth, clear plastic tub with a snug-fitting lid and a few holes punched in will be perfect for roaches. Only the males have wings and fall more often than they legitimately fly.

>>2018979
How fast can they move? Do they bite? They don't cannibalize each other like crickets do they?

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he won't let me stop petting him :/ any time i move my hand he starts searching for it like a mad man (poor old bugger is blind)

>>2018980

I mean, they're fucking roaches. You know how fast roaches move. You have to have seen it before.

No, they don't bite.
No, they don't cannibalize each other AS OFTEN as crickets.

They don't smell as bad as crickets, they're packed with good shit for your reptile, and they're super easy to gutload and care for.

They don't breed below temps in the high seventies, so even if they do escape, at this time of year, they'll more likely than not die before the Spring.

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Poor guy is so tired.

>>2018993
Yep, roaches (especially dubias) are awesome feeders.

That's what I give my geckos.

They don't smell, they eat mostly fruits, and they're actually super chill.

>>2019022
D'aaaw.

how viable is having sand as a substrate for a hognose?

>>2019078
the same as it is for most things
i.e. not very good

aspen shavings are pretty common to keep hoggies on

>Roomate leaves my gecko tank open last night and I dont know
>My crested gecko escapes
>Find out when I get home from work and remove everything to clean
>Spend a solid 3 hours tearing everything up
>No trace
>It gets dark
>Microwave a banana and stick it in his tank
>Mist it
>Come back 20 minutes later
>He's in there again

I'm rigging the lid so it cant sit open and I super glued all the screens down.

>>2019095
Tell your roommate to fuck off with your animals unless you're present

>>2019095
Yeah, >>2019099 go with this. Just sit him down and tell him unless you're around, he can't do anything to your pets from now on. Get a lock if you need to.

>>2019099
I had a talk with him.

>>2019105
I'm rigged it to stay closed and told him not to fuck with my pet again unless I say to.

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Huh. So i have been putting some pieces of repashy grub pie in my pictus geckos' food dish the past couple months as a source of moisture and gutload for the worms to nibble at while they wait for geckos to bestir themselves to eat. I had tried getting the geckos to eat grub pie before but, since it does not wiggle as live bugs do, they didn't want any part of it.

Now, the past two weeks I have noticed some bits of grub pie being eaten. Last night's serving of mealworms and grub pie produced an interesting result. Today I see only a couple mealworms gone and ALL of the grub pie gone. Holy crackers! They've developed a taste for it. This is great news. If they continue to nom the grub pie it will decrease the amount of live bugs I need to keep on hand to feed them.

repashy's grub pie is a powdered vitamin and insect (i think mostly solider fly larvae) meal replacement concoction designed specifically for pure insectivores and insectivore/vegetable eating herps; beardies, skinks, leos, etc. You mix it with boiling water and it produces a sort of jelly-type consistency, which you then slice in to pieces for your herp.

>>2019089
is there anything that does fine with sand. I want to make a desert themed terrarium. how about sand boas

>>2019194
You could probably use sand for a leopard gecko as long as you have it covered up mostly.
get some rocks or tiles and cover most of the sand so he cant get any in him.

>>2019197
desert horn lizards?

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>>2019197
>sand
>leopard gecko

No. Ceramic tile, or paper towels.

>>2019255
I was saying he could lay tiles or rocks on top of sand in such a way you can see the sand, butthe gecko can never touch it.

>>2019255
whats wrong with that gecko?

>>2019273
That's fine. Sorry, sand as a primary substrate is my pet peeve.

>>2019275
"Although many sources claim that sand is a safe substrate, it has been found impacted within the stomach and intestines of leopard geckos after death. Pictured below is a prime example of why we don't recommend sand. Dehydration, retained sheds, conjunctivitis, sand impaction, all due to this sand. This poor fellow was adopted by one of our technicians and nursed back to health!"

>>2019275
Sand is abrasive as fuck and hurts things that arent meant to be on it. In the wild leopard geckos avoid sandy areas.

>>2019277
It's all good. I try to recommend safe, but still natural looking substrates.

>>2019280
that's not what's wrong with that gecko though. It's retained shed and starvation. 0% abrasion.

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>>2019282
>0% abrasion
>implying sand doesn't affect humidity, which is the #1 cause of retained sheds

Why use sand, when it has been shown repeatedly to contribute to retained sheds/conjunctivitis/impaction in leos, when you can tile your terrarium for less than $3, and is way easier to clean than sand?

>>2019282
fucking read, jesus fuck
>>2019277

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>>2019282

>>2019289
this triggers the anon

>>2019289
>>2019255
Holy fuck triggered

>>2019022
He's adorable. He was a great find. Now let him settle in.

DO NOT USE SAND FOR LEOPARD GECKOS.

1. Impaction can and will occur.
2. Very abrasive.
3. Fucks up humidity levels.
4. Wears down ligaments causing

Other Anons can add to the reasons.

Would a blue tongued lizard or a shingle back be the best choice for a starter reptile. Would the blue tongue lizard be more active as they don't store as much fat?

>>2013237
Tfw feeding ur snek after a week and a half without food due to my local family owned pet store not having any live pinkies! It's always a special treat for my albino Florida king when I we get home to New Orleans that I feel him some good live mice pups to chow down on. 1 he totally wrapped up and killed.... The other he just put his mouth over the head and it was trying to not get eaten. He is eating such small mice pups that I'm not worried about him being hurt or attacked, they are all blind.

>>2019299
Blue tongue skink

>>2019301
Cool, thanks

>>2019194
sand boa keepers say they actually prefer aspen shavings for them.

>>2019300
why? kings have zero problem with frozen thawed.

we're past bump limit on this one. fresh bread:

>>2019323
>>2019323
>>2019323
>>2019323

>>2019313
jesus why can't animals into sand. would a redish dirt be OK then?

>>2019336
you can use excavator clay to mold a landscape and put a safe substrate for your desired critter on top of it. that usually looks pretty nice.

>>2017969

I thought Bearded Dragons only lasted around ten years?

>>2019255
>>2019277

That thing's alive? Holy crap.

>>2019194
There are no species commonly kept in the pet trade that can/should be kept on sand. The only ones I can think of are Arabian sand boas and sandfish skinks. NOTE: Arabian sand boas are not Kenyan sand boas, and just because they're both called sand boas doesn't mean they both live in sand. Kenyan sand boas are also Egyptian sand boas, so if someone says Egyptian sand boas can be kept on sand, they're wrong.

You'll spend a lot less money on aspen, and have a lot less heartache. I don't understand the obsession with sand. It looks like shit, is fucking expensive, and keeping it clean is a bitch.

That said, a sand mix may be ok. If you do 3 parts EcoEarth and 1 part sand, or 3 part something else like cypress mulch or something. Just don't use pure sand, it's the worst of all substrates.

>>2019273
Still not good enough, the sand could easily come up between the cracks as the tile shifts around, and if you're just going to cover the whole thing up why not just skip the sand altogether???

>>2019377
lolololol....

No.

>>2019285
I read and they're wrong.

>>2017724
>>2017750
>completely forgot i asked this
thanks for the suggestions, im pretty sure he had aspen shavings before, and those were too dusty for him, so il look into chips. i dont think there are many brands at the petstore near me, so il probably look at what they have specifically at the further ones near me, and decide from that
honestly though, as long as his towels are an okay idea, im in less of a rush