What does /adv/ think about an 18 year old girl dating a

I would think sugar baby.

>>18730088
Who cares? You are both adults so you guys do you.

>>18730088
Two consenting adults doing their thing.

The maturity gap is massive and i cant imagine you actually have anything in common and the 48 year old is likely exploting the 18 year old sexually but... If it works it works.

>>18730098
Do you find it odd that a 46 year old can't find another 46ish year old to date?

Would it ever seem like the 46 year old is using their 28 additional years of life experience to manipulate the 18 year old who has no real life dating experience?

Do you believe individuals should "grow" themselves while in a relationship with each other? If so, what can an 18 year old teach a 46 year old?

Would any of you be upset if your daughter came home with a 46 year old man, who might actually be older than you?

Too be honest, and this is very personal. While I'm ok with younger woman older male relationships, I add a limit which is like 10 years, otherwise imo the differences in both maturity and generation would be way too large. And I do find older women young men relationships weird and almost disgusting.

>>18730134
Hi I dated a guy when I was 19 who was twice my age.

The answer to all your questions in my situation was yes. Its odd, he was manipulative, didn't respect me, and was a divorced man child. He also coerced me into doing things for him I explicitly told him I didn't want to do but I was intimidated by him. I wouldn't let another person I care about make the same mistake I did.

So, people under 23 are really not adults, they can be smart and carry a conversation, but the pure lack of life experience makes them Stupid to anyone over 30.

I am 36, Would love to fuck young chicks, but see the time is over(one night stand with 19 year old student last year) Bit weird and odd to hit on young girls, feel most likely they think I am an old creep, so... yea messaged a few 18-22 year olds from my work. no reply, sure the office word is I'm an old creeper. Gonna go for the 25 year olds from now on.

>>18730088

I think it's weak as fuck and nearly some pedophile shit.

If you're the girl you are a weak ho. If you are the man, seek professional help.

>>18730284
This

>>18730273
Pretty much this, I don't consider anyone under 25 to be an actual person, yet.

Can work out quite well when both of them are honest to each other.

>>18730134
>Do you find it odd that a 46 year old can't find another 46ish year old to date?
There is no rule that says people HAVE to date their age. There's no way of knowing that a 46 year old dating younger couldn't find someone his age, because maybe he didn't care to do so.
>>18730134
>Would it ever seem like the 46 year old is using their 28 additional years of life experience to manipulate the 18 year old who has no real life dating experience?
Life experience isn't something that's given to you after you reach a certain age. For example, the 46 year old could have never had a relationship before, while the 18 year old could have already had 3.
>Do you believe individuals should "grow" themselves while in a relationship with each other?
What do you mean by grow?
>Would any of you be upset if your daughter came home with a 46 year old man, who might actually be older than you?
Not if he was a good man.

>>18730225
>And I do find older women young men relationships weird and almost disgusting.
Why?
>>18730284
By 18 years old, most people would have finished puberty, and so would have the outside appearances of Adults. Pedophilia has nothing to do with this.
>If you are the man, seek professional help.
For being a heterosexual man? For being attracted to youthfulness, one of the best indicators of fertility in Women? How awful.

>>18730134
>Do you find it odd that a 46 year old can't find another 46ish year old to date?
You're so naive. Most men would rather date a 18 years old than an old hag, no matter their own age.

>>18730088

Gold digger for her, he's desperate.

Not saying that they aren't allowed to date but it's the standard stereotype-that-is-mostly-truth kind of things.

I'm 27 and dating a 19 year old (was 18 when we first got together). lol friends and family treat me like I'm some creeper cradle snatcher.

like wtf when I was that age no girls gave me time of day and often dated dudes in their 20s. even female friends who are giving me shit over it. now I'm that dude in his 20s I'm the weirdo now?

lol what the heck?

>>18730134
Why would a 46 year old guy date a 46 year old woman if he can get a woman in her 20s?

>>18730546
You're obviously a teenager who has never been on a date. 18 year old girls are kids, and very few of them are dating material. A girl needs to be at least 23 or so before an older guy could seriously date her.

>>18730088
Ew

>>18730284
So you say 18 year old girls look like children? You never jacked it to teen porn? You don't even know what you are saying.

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>>18730088

I have a zoomed-out perspective on life. I don't care in the least. If they want to get together, they can. If they want to separate, they can.

The girl is going to end up having bad mental problems or already has them to do this.

The issue usually is a naive young girl thinking guys her age are too immature so she goes for a mature man whose way older than her, but not realizing that in doing this SHE is the one immature.

Outside of pedophilia there are actual reasons as why it's bad to be with someone way older than you, and the claim of age doesn't matter to love is a little ignorant.

I wish there were more studies on this, but from anecdotal experience I've encountered it seems to be caused by how they were brought up.

>>18730610
Theres a reason why a ONS exists.

>>18730610
No, you're a delusional fuck who doesn't understand how attraction works. Why do you think so many rich men have wives and girlfriends half their age? Why do you think so many of the people whose wives are around their own age cheat with much younger women?

Because they're much, much more attractive. Of course, there are benefits to dating someone older, but at the end of the day a 20 years old girl would be more desirable than someone twice her age. And I'm not talking strictly about looks (although that's most of it). Older people, both men and women tend to be jaded and passive compared to younger ones.

And I love how you just picked an arbitrary number "23" and say, yeah, this is the age where girls become women, this is when they're mature enough. What the fuck happens at 23? Is a 23 years old women fundamentally different from a 22 years old?

Get your head out of your ass, younger people are simply more attractive. And that goes tenfold for women.

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There's a part a and part b to this. But let me clarify--- I've been attracted to older men my whole life. Even when I was a preteen I'd only crush on actors, teachers, friend's older brothers or fathers, etc. When I was in high school I had sex with guys in their 20s and a neighbor who was already pushing 40--- and I wasn't naïve enough to think he loved me. (Although I did naively expect monogamy.) Even when guys my own age asked me out at that age, I could never feel the sexual attraction I had with older, they looked like little boys to me.

Part a: There's a big difference between being 18-21 and having graduated college, gotten job, lived independently, etc. So assuming on the maturity level here, what people are saying about the girl being the immature one applies. Some guys are into that because they're kids themselves too. Also, as far as the sugar daddy thing--- more than likely, but it's funny because half the time these guys aren't pulling in more than 40-50k a year.

Part b: 18 is an adult, as long as you're willing to accept the consequences of your actions, you can do what you want. (As I mentioned, I always did this, I've never gotten an STD, never been pregnant, never depended on these men to support me 100%, etc.) I think age matters less as you get older, so if she could push this off even 3 years it won't matter much at all.

>I'm now 24 and dating a 45 year old, we both have similar incomes (his is higher with more work experience obviously- but I could rent an apartment alone in a big city if I wanted), and no one really bothers us about the gap. (Although admittedly, I was nervous about judgment at first, something that will probably happen based off human nature.)

Taking this a step further:

As for the people on here talking about "rich guys", get that out of your head, if you've never been in this situation before you'd know it's rare for the girls dating older to bring home some doctor pulling in 100k--- more than likely it's a guy who wants someone physical attractive and is tired of older women that want to settle down and have kids. Or maybe they want to have kids later with someone still capable of being a young mom.

As for the issues with maturity--- age (after what I just said) starts being arbitrary when you have women in their 30s or 40s bartending or in some dead end office job and you might have some girl with a comp sci degree looking for a man. And unfortunately when your options are a stable older guy or some guy living at home because he's making $15-20 an hour and has 50k+ in student loans, what do you think she's going to choose ?

Honestly, she's of age. Enjoy it for what it is and be smart. In the end it's your choice and that's alright. Sometimes it's good to have that young energy around and get, you can take her to do things she never imagined.

Since a lot of you are arguing about age and attractiveness, here's a study on what age woman men find most attractive depending on their age. While women seem to find a man closer to their age attractive, men ALWAYS find 20-23 year old most attractive. This doesn't mean they want a relationship with them -- just that they find them hot. It also depends on what age you actually look like -- I still look like i'm 15 because of my baby face. Some 35 year old Asians still look 18.

http://jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-are-20-21-22-and-23-a-data-dive-1731660984

I linked Jezebel because I find it hilarious how the women are getting mad in the comments. Yes, it's sad that women peak very young, but there's no use fighting it other than trying to look your best.

Also to answer OP's question, when I was 18 I was a kid. I was totally immature and had zero real-life experience. Of course, I thought i knew it all. Just because she looks good doesn't mean she's suitable for dating. So go ahead and knock yourself out but be wary starting a relationship. For your and her sake

>>18730646
Why are you so angry about this, and why are you so vehemently spouting complete nonsense that shows everyone how stupid and inexperienced you are? You can't be older than 18 and obviously never had a date. Otherwise you'd know there is a world of difference between a 18 year old and a 22-23 year old. A 18 year old girl is a kid, and older men don't want to put up with her shit and teenage drama. A few years later, they start becoming more tolerable.

>>18730732
You're an idiot if you think I have to be angry to use curse words and insults. I can call you a fucking idiot with a smile on my face.

Repeating "you can't be older than 18" won't make your non-argument any more believable. Anyone with a head on their shoulders can see that younger women are much more attractive and that most men prefer them. That was my only point. Yes, most older men would probably prefer a 23 years old over an 18 years old, but that wasn't my point, you dumb cunt. My point was that most men would prefer an 18 years old over a 40+ years old woman. Even if the men in question are over 40 themselves.

I think it's okay, if you both have a good time together that's all that matters.

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>>18730330
Fuck yeww I'm a person!!! Who likes drowning birds in my bottled semen and while using insects to stuff my asshole with the baby blood that I gathered from rippin' it apart. I also like to forcefully fist my mouth with a rolled newspaper, I love sticking pencils down my urethra . . .

>>18730088
I think of of few things, first is daddy issues, second is sugar daddy who's using his alpha status, third is super alpha male who hunts a prime woman.

Those are my personoal prejudices, but anything that happens between two consenting human being is whatever it is.

>>18730773
>most men would prefer an 18 years old over a 40+ years old woman
How do you know this?

>>18730822
Not that anon, but there's some truth on that. Since men attracted to physical beauty the most.

I'm not saying men ll pick 18 over 40 always, but it's easier for 18 years old to be more physically attractive than 40 year olds.
How many 40 something women who put effort to keep her appearance good and not just letting it go and loose till she become hambeast or worse?

>>18730832
Men will be delighted to fuck a 18 year old. But to have one in an actual relationship? No way.

>>18730330
Man i thought i was getting pretentious af but this seems to be very common, thank God i'm not alone.

I find 23 year olds are the absolute worst.

>>18730875
I'm 22 but I'm very mature for my age.

>>18730546
Not true. At 30 id rather a 40 year old with well visible signs of aging over a fucking toddler. Which 18 year olds look and act like to me now.

And i have no one in my circles who are actively chasing younger women. This is a thing "legal pedophiles" do, and its frowned upon.

>>18730875
I agree with you. 23 years old usually think they know better than anyone else and their opinions are the key to change the world or shit to better. Along with their peak youth they think they can dominate anyone without efforts.

Biggest bullshit I can't tolerate is they lack experiences on dealing with realities in life and will usually sprout communism bullcrap. Fuck that.

>>18730560
Probably because when you were 19 the girls.dating older guys eventually realised they were being exploited and used and that the males they were dating were creeps and borderline pedos.

And now theyve passed that judgement to you.

>>18730883

>never ever touches a book on entrepreneurialship or making side cash.
>never tries to make so much as a macaroni picture to put on ebay.
>never applies to any job anywhere outside of their shitty starbucks/mcdonalds/jc penny job or their minimum wage office data entry or wherever tf they work.

"Rah its capitalisms fault im poor!!!"

>>18730088
Gross. She could legitimately be his daughter.

>>18730088
I'm a 45 year old man and I can't imagine being attracted to one so young. My personal limit is nobody under 30 and preferably not under 38.

>>18730909
But why? Why would your sexual preferences change as you get older? Surely you must remember being attracted to younger women when you were young. You wouldn't find those same women attractive if you saw photos of them from back then?

>>18730905
But she isn't. How is that gross?

>>18730913
Also over 30 and if you dont understand then take our word.

Mostly its a maturity thing. I know you watch a lot of tv but attraction is very much mental and emotional too. 18 year olds are fucking toddlers. Not into that.


Not only that but it gets harder to differentiate in age. Were not around 18 year olds and teenagers in general on a constant daily basis.


I cant tell the difference between a 12 year old a 15 year old and an 18 year old anymore.

And thats not weird, ive been at a bar with friends a few times and we'll see what looks like a 13 year old drinking and well look at each other wide eyed unable to believe shes 19.


That parts not too attractive either.

I'm 33 and will be going to university in a few weeks. I'm also single (broke up with a gf of 5 years earlier this year) and it will be a matter of fact that most of my peers will be in the 18-24 bracket. As such, this topic is something I've been giving some thought recently.

Ultimately, I feel it is down to who the individuals are. There are people in their fifties who are insecure, gullible and immature just as there are highly self aware, manipulative and exploitative young adults. While age can be a factor, it's never a determiner.

There are certain scenarios where I'd find an older man-younger woman situation unacceptable such as the older man being a father or the younger woman is drunk/stupid/vulnerable. There are scenarios where both are shit people and I couldn't give a fuck such as sugar daddy scenarios - better they manipulate and lead on each other than decent people. This leaves more or less every other loving and equitable relationship between adults of any age and in this circumstance, I'm struggling to think of rational criticisms of age gap relationships beyond "eww icky".

If, in the unlikely event, I meet a girl in her late teens/early twenties who's genuinely compatible with me (common interests, personality types, values, ambitions etc) then I see no reason why I shouldn't pursue a relationship since it's difficult enough as it is finding a quality partner without imposing arbitrary limitations on oneself. Particularly as life and the opportunities within are very finite. I'd say the exact same thing if I met someone ten or so years older than myself (indeed, 60% of the dates I've been on this year have been with older women).

In short, yes there are shitty and manipulative older men but that shouldn't disqualify good and decent men from pursuing and providing happiness, Not all older men are creepy nor are all younger women vacuous.

>>18730915
The age difference is way too big for the relationship to be balanced or healthy.

While I can understand why a man would want to fuck a 18 year old, getting emotionally involved with one makes both of them disgusting to me - him more than her, tho, because I think that the older one has some sort of responsibility.

>>18730913
It's nothing to do with 'attraction' based on a physical appreciation of age and beauty. There comes a time when life experience adds a certain charisma, an understanding of sensuality that many younger women lack.

In my experience younger women are still self conscious and not in tune with their bodies, emotions and sexuality as older ones, who are easier to relate to.

On the other hand many older women just let their sexuality and sensuality go. But the ones who don't.... are the best.

>>18730919
>The age difference is way too big for the relationship to be balanced or healthy.
You can't assume this. There are relationships with large age gaps where both people were happy and content.

>getting emotionally involved with one makes both of them disgusting to me - him more than her, tho, because I think that the older one has some sort of responsibility.
They haven't done anything wrong or disgusting though.

>>18730918
30fag went to uni at 20 here.

We had a few slightly older men and women in our classes. Youll command a lot of respect honestly.

Until you hit on girls much younger than you. Then youre done.

>>18730822
Everybody who tries to look at the world without ideological googles knows it. Every study ever made that touched on this issue showed that men prefer younger women. Look, someone even linked one of them in this thread >>18730674

You don't even need any studies to confirm it, all you have to do is look at men and who they usually hit on, who they stare at in public, who they say they would rather fuck or be with. And hundreds of thousands of years of evolution where the average age of death was 25 makes it a lot more obvious.

>>18730917
>>18730920
So in summary it's a mental aspect rather an a physical one. It's still strange to me because most Women have stopped growing by the time they're 16. The only physically apparent differences between a 16 year old and a 40 year old might be that the latter has slight wrinkles (depends on genetics) and a less than stellar body shape due to different metabolism. If you're physically attracted to the latter, then why not the former? I don't know, I'm in my early 20's and I can't conceive of a time when I don't find hot 18 year olds attractive.

>>18730934
On the one hand, I don't really care if some teenagers don't want to be my friend but on the other hand, I'm stuck with them for three years. Plus, with everybody knowing everybody through social media, that's the kind of thing that could follow me around through my MA and PhD...

How young is too young?

>>18730945
*possibly less than stellar body shape(will depend on lifestyle)

>>18730931
Relationships with big age gaps like those are nearly guaranteed not to work. Statistically speaking.

Starting a relationship with someone 30 years younger than you who is still a child is not morally right, to me. You are not entering a relationship as equals. You are inherently in a position of power over them.
A man my father's age who fucks a girl who I would consider too young for me is something I find wrong.
Free to disagree.

>>18730936
That person you just linked said themselves "that doesnt mean they want a relationship. They just think theyre hot." and thats the truth.

Ive said in this thread i find 23 year olds the absolute worst.

Thats also a womans goddamn physical peak to me. Id fuck one sure.

But at 30 i need a real connection. I would much prefer a one week fling with a cool 40 year old i do connect with, than a one night stand with a 23 year old.bombshell i dont.

If youre talking purely physical, sure. Ill agree.

But there are a lot more factors, and as for your ideological goggles, culture and environment go a very long way in shaping brain development growing up.

Were absolute bloodthirsty murder biomachines. Not many common people around today who would absolutely love to go slaughter a bunch of farm animals and then kill the farmer himself when theyre done and call it a great day at the park.

>>18730945
>It's still strange to me because most women have stopped growing by the time they're 16.
Simply false.

>>18730945
Yes it's mental. When I was in my 20s I'd have thought like you.

BTW! Don't mix attraction with appreciating a younger body. I most certainly like looking at hot younger women but I'm not attracted to them in a way that makes me want to hit on them or even get to know them except in a platonic way.

>>18730945

Its extremely mental yes. But also as you said youre early 20s. Youre still close enough in age you can probably recognise an 18 year old. I cant anymore. Also in my early 20s 18 year olds were total fair play to me too.

And im not attracted to 10 year olds because im not a pedo.

And since im totally underexposed to younger people now because my circles are all older, then to me young is young.

An 18 year olds face and a 12 year olds face to me are totally indistinguishable now. Obviously not body, but the face is enough to be a put off.

Same way when you were 5 years old you thought 10 year olds were mufucking tall ass near adults, at 30 i see 18 year olds as children.

I believe if i was hanging with an 18 year old and i knew she was 18 my perception of her would change and i could be attracted, but initially its just "child"

>>18730950
>Statistically speaking.
Irrelevant to the individuals. Some kinds of Inter-racial marriages also have a higher chance of divorce. Would you tell those couples not to get together?

>who is still a child
Your definition of a child is not one that reflects reality. You would probably call anyone younger than an arbitrary age a child, while for most of society, that age is below the age of consent.

>You are not entering a relationship as equals. You are inherently in a position of power over them.
In what sense? Money? Would you also have the same reservation when people marry across classes? What about people marrying those less intelligent than them?

>A man my father's age who fucks a girl who I would consider too young for me is something I find wrong.
And you've shown no legitimate reason for having this opinion.

>>18730952
I mean in terms of outside physical appearances. Why do you think Women are shorter on average than Men?

>>18730964
>Your definition of a child is not one that reflects reality.
Not really.
18 year olds aren't fully developed physically or neurologically.
Most of them aren't adults in the sense that they have never had any real responsibility, they aren't independent financially, they don't have any real world experience.

>In what sense?
Experience and maturity.

I'd find distasteful someone buying a wife from a 3rd world country or someone married a person with mental disabilities, yeah.

>>18730965
Not because they stop growing at 16. Simply different selection - physical strength is more important for men than women in terms of survival.

>>18730964

If you dont get this im guessing you must be pretty young yourself.

As this anon says>>18730978 18 year olds arent developed mentally. In fact the brain is developing and forming until age 25.

>inb4 average age of death in old days was 25 as another anon pointed out. Thats an average. Because most people died as children from disease and mufucking tigers. If you made it to 30 you were going to live well into old age.

And the difference starts to become obvious. 18 year olds do not cognate and understand the world 30+s do. It becomes almost impossible to have a conversation because you just cant be on the same page on anything at all because they lack life experience and the brain formation for completely mature thought.

If youre a young fag, you will understand eventually. Trust me on that.

If youre an oldfag, you either have some insecurities and young kids like you and you get affirmation from them so you'll defend to the death theyre emotionally and mentally mature when youre completely wrong, or your brain is underdeveloped itself..

>>18730951
Yeah, you want someone older. Good for you. Most people don't.

>>18730978

I agree, and 'childhood's end' is getting older with the length of time kids spend living in the parental home.

I'm liking this thread. Validates my reasons for not dating too young.

>>18730936
How many times must you be told that fucking a young girl and having a relationship are two different things? You are a teenager with no dating experience trying to tell guys in their 30s and 40s what they like in a woman.

>>18730978
>18 year olds aren't fully developed physically
For Women they are. For the majority of Men, they are. Women stop growing height wise by 16, and breast development finishes by 18. Most Men have stopped growing height wise at 18, except for a few who will grow a few centimetres into their early 20's.

>or neurologically.
Are you referring to the studies which detected changes in the areas of the brain associated with Impulse control? Changes in those area may stop occurring from 18 up to 30's, but the logical part of the brain reaches Adult levels at 16. Impulse control varies between Adults, and some would even say races, but an 18 year old can still demonstrate better impulse control than a 35 year old, because impulse control is related to intelligence, personality and upbringing.

>they have never had any real responsibility, they aren't independent financially, they don't have any real world experience.
This is largely dependent on people's lives and circumstances. It won't apply for every 18 year old.

>Experience and maturity.
See Above.

>>18730980
> Maximal adult height is achieved at an average age of 15 years for an average girl and 18 years for an average boy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty#Differences_between_male_and_female_puberty

>>18730989
Exactly.

My grandma married my grandpa in 1947. She was 19, he was 32.
Anyway, she lived through WWII, worked since she was 11, had to take care of her younger siblings because her mother died and her dad was in the resistance and away from home for months at a time.
When I was her age, I didn't know how to iron shirts.

>>18730988
No ive mostly dated younger. But youre speaking in too much extreme

>men prefer an 18 year old over a 40 year old

They do not. My girlfriend is 27 and im 29. When we started dating i was 26 and she was 24. If she was 18 i wouldnt have touched it.

The studies find men date younger because they do. But not much younger because emotional maturity is a huge factor.

This isnt weird or strange. This is common. You very rarely find 30 somethings with 18 year olds and its very widely frowned upon.

I work construction and one guy came in bragging about banging a 19 year old.

No pats on the back, or envy, dude was considered a borderline pedophile. It is well recognized that the emotional maturity gap is so massive at that point the relationship is most likely exploitation.

So while youre defending your point of "most people dont date older" with context of saying "most people prefer an 18 year old to a 40 year old" everyone else with eyes knows that shits rare, and at my age, i would take a 40 year old over an 18 year old, as most people my age would if that was their only options.

But its not my only options so id be fine with a 25+

>>18730984
>In fact the brain is developing and forming until age 25.
The 1980s called. They want their "facts" back. The brain never stops developing. Your brain doesn't "mature" at 25, it's just in a continuous process of change based on experience.

>>18730997
You're an old bitter women who doesn't want to accept the fact that men don't find her attractive anymore. See, I can do it too. But if I were to really try I'd say you're only an idiot who thinks his personal experience says more about the objective world than statistics and studies.

Attraction is the biggest part of a relationship. You can't have a romantic relationship without attraction. You can have it without many things, things you find in older women, but not attraction. So yes, while other factors that influence it do exist, attraction is what primarily creates and sustains it.

>>18731006
>here are our experiences, all of us of our age agree
>hurr durr no you're wrong because muh statistics!

You're a typical /r9k/tard, trying to use statistics to tell people their real life experiences are wrong.

>>18731008
/r9k/iddy for sure.

>You can't have a romantic relationship without attraction.

So what is attraction? Can you define it? Because it seems you don't know what it means.

>>18730984
I've come across studies that state that the brain finishes developing in the 40's. It could just be that you haven't been around smart 18 year olds.

>>18730999
I am from my phone and can't bother quoting, I'm sorry.

Height isn't the only physical trait.
The difference in size between males and females exists because of different selection, not because they stop growing first. Women start growing height wise earlier than boys, and stop earlier too.

I am saying that neurologically speaking they aren't fully developed, not that they have better or worse impulse control.

Most people at 18 don't, tho. A very large part of them never had a job, lived on their own means, knows what they want from their life. A lot of them don't have any relationship experience either and don't know how adults behave in a relationship. Most 18 year olds are extremely immature emotionally and never experienced anything traumatising.

It depends on life experience to some degree, but even a very mature 18 year old is immature compared to an average 46 year old.

>>18731005
>most people do this
>Ill prove it to you by telling you about my personal experience
Find me a study that confirms what you're saying there and I'll listen to you. Otherwise fuck off.

>>18731008
You do realize that statistics are built upon real life experiences, right? It's just that you have a lot more of them, so you can form a decent opinion. Otherwise everybody could claim anything they want because experiences are very diverse. The problem with statistics is that people can't empathize with them so idiots will dismiss them in favor of their own limited experiences. Which is, of course, relevant to themselves, I didn't claim otherwise. But it's not relevant to the masses. Imagine you and your male friends like swimming. And someone comes with some statistics based on thousands of diverse individuals that say that "men, on average hate swimming". So you tell them that they don't know what they're talking about, men obviously love swimming because he and his friends do and in his group people would be shamed for no liking swimming. Ridiculous, isn't it?

>>18731017
Being attracted to someone means that person makes elicits interest, emotions and sexual desire in you.

>>18730088
Whatever. You're both adults, right?

>>18731133
Op here. Interesting read through this thread.

I am not 46. I am 30. My gf dated a 46 year old for a year when she was 18. She's 21 now.

I dated 18/19 year olds on my late 20's and realised I could not connect with them past having fun and sex. Our mental connection was just too poor. It blows my mind how my gf could really date a 46 year old and not see what's wrong with it. She wasn't even in college. He had previous failed marriages, so tons more life and relationship experience than her. She doesn't believe me when I say it was almost definitely a fetish and manipulation (she's asian, he was white).

I feel much closer to my current 21 year old gf than I have with with anyone in a long time. After finding out how she loved some old 46 year old faggot it has just been such a turn off for me.

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23 is the youngest I have found most people become rational adults in general, sure exceptions on both sides, met a few adult 17-18 years old and 24-26 year olds acting like teens.

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Emotional maturity comes with experience, I'm 36 with few relationships, but I know things, about life you only learn by being alive for a good while. So yea, you can bee a noob at relationships at 46, and an 18 year old have more experience at this. Still they don't know basic shit you learn with time.

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Being sexualy actractive to young fertile women is natural, but a taboo in our society. The age we deem acceptable depends on where we live, in us you are deemed pedophile if you like 16-17 years olds(the term applies to pre puberty ya'll :P ) In Norway and many places in Europe it is 16, when I find out a girl is 16 I'm ok with thinking about her sexually, even though mentally she is a pretty much child, this is natural instincts sexual attraction, nothing more. If she is 15 I refrain from these thoughts. But if I was Swedish I probably would not, cause there the age of consent is 15. I laugh at Americans being called pedophiles for sleeping with a 17 year old. I stay within the law.

But yea, for an relationship I don't see a girl younger than 23, and at my age 36. I think at least 25. I also love older women, a hot 45 year old or 50 year old I'd do any day. you can date them to, but not for live, their looks will fade quickly. Not too into girls my own age, they seem for the most part to look older than they are, and often have small children.

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She likes older men, you're lucky you are probably barely old enough for her to want you with a bare 9 years on here, she broke her 10 year rule for you, thats love.

Also, you have the Yellow fever so have no right to judge. She likes the old cock and saggy balls, her fetish.

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Gross. Just gross. The age gap is just way too big.

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I would like to be him.

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White trash

I'm in college and I'm already noticing the women around me losing their appeal. There are a few that take care of themselves, but the majority of them are getting either fat, leathery, or both. They've also been fucking and sucking to hell and back, and have overdosed on cock. I can't imagine how bad it gets once you get past 26 or 27. If I'm not married when I turn 35, I'm dating younger women or not dating at all. Older women are less attractive and aren't fit for reproducing, so there'd be no point except getting your rocks off, which isn't worth the relationship hassle for when you can just jerk off instead.

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>when I turn 35
actually, now that I think about it, 30 is probably endgame for me. I don't know if I could consider a 31 year old single woman as a serious relationship prospect

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Jealousy is a terrible thing.

They're likely not going to start a family but they will fuck a lot