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Ok so, this is gonna be REALLY fucked up. A few days ago an

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Ok so, this is gonna be REALLY fucked up.

A few days ago an edgy kid from a WhatsApp group I am in started to send CP. When I saw it I was horrified and really, REALLY angry because behind every video or photo of that kind, there are children whose lives have been terribly damaged.
But... I discovered something awful. Two of those vids turned me on. And I in fact masturbated to one of them.
Of course now I feel awful and guilty, but I also feel confused because I don't find children attractive at all. I like boys and girls around my age (19).
What I am worried and confused about is that I liked that shit. I did. And I did because I imagined it was happening to me. Like, I imagined myself being really young and having sex with older men.
And I remember being sexual and having sexual feelings from a really young age, like 4 or so. And I don't mean "exploring my body" or some shit like that, I mean legit masturbating and having an understanding of what sex was despite me never watching porn, knowing about it from an external source, etc.

Idk what to make of all of this. I know I am no pedo because I legit find children's body repulsive, but I still liked those fucked up videos? I would never look up CP on my own because I don't want to contribute in ruining children's lives and I am thinking of reporting that edgy kid in the WhatsApp group to the authorities but, yeah. Idk what the fuck is worng with me.
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Nice mate, maybe you could add me to your wp group so I can get a general idea of what you're receiving?
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>>18715548
First off, this is normal. Children are sexual beings and have to be trained out of inappropriate sexual behavior in public at a young age. Puberty isn't where sexuality begins, it's where it overwhelms social conditioning. If you're interested in older guys, you're in luck, especially since you're young but legal. Finding an older man for an ageplay relationship will be easy. I'd give it a shot and see if it's something you genuinely enjoy or just a passing fantasy.

Secondly, viewing CP isn't harming anyone. Often (but not always), producing and distributing it is harmful, but there is no mechanism by which the view counter ticking from 1000 to 1001 increases the amount of harm done to a child. There's almost an argument to be made for the cheerleader effect where more views encourages people to create more CP, thus harming more children, but that argument doesn't hold water when you consider that because the vast majority of CP hosted anywhere is reposts of reposts of reposts and has no view counter, there is no possible way for the producer to know how popular it is.
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I still would not watch CP ever again. I just can't bear the feeling that children were harmed there. The only reason I masturbated to that one vid is because the girls there seemed to not be suffering. Of course I know this is not true and they were being abused, but still. I would not do it again. I am pretty happy with my JAVs and my lolicon hentai lmao.

But thanks, you made me feel somewhat normal.
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>>18715548
>A few days ago an edgy kid from a WhatsApp group I am in started to send CP.
Report him to authorities ASAP.

>>18715548
>Two of those vids turned me on. And I in fact masturbated to one of them.
See a psychologist immediately. You don't seem to be attracted to children, since you generally seem to be attracted to *being* the child, so that means there is a low risk of you harming children, but still, see a psychologist about this issue.

>>18716388
>Secondly, viewing CP isn't harming anyone
Kill yourself. Literally go commit suicide. Your continued existence is unneeded in any society. You are beyond worthless. I would put a bullet through your skull without an ounce of regret. Give me your address, please.
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>>18716692
>See a psychologist immediately.
Yeah, that's not a good idea unless you want to get reported to CPS and have your reputation publicly dragged through the mud without so much as a "sorry, maybe we overreacted" afterward.

>Kill yourself.
It sounds like you're of the opinion that viewing CP is harmful to children, but I'm not seeing any arguments in favor of that belief. Perhaps you'd like to clarify your position?
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MODS MODSSSS
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>>18716871
>implying you can watch a child be abused, be turned on by it, and still be considered human
Your life is forfeit.
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>>18716903
So your claim isn't that CP is harmful, just that it's icky. I guess I can understand your point of view. For the record, I'm just as disgusted by hurtcore as you are, probably more so. But that's a tiny, tiny subset of a subset of what's generally considered CP.
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>>18716388
Bait. No1 is this stupid. This is 'i can't wipe my own ass' retarded.
>>18715548
Grow some balls, report the piece of shit. This could be just the beginning for that sociopath. If you do nothing with your life at least you can look back on this and say one fucking time you did something of note. It's a good feeling OP, something that will give you meaning till the end of days.
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>>18715548
Anon, I know this might be an obvious question, and you might be very quick to answer it, but were you abused as a child?
Don't get me wrong, im not trying to put words in your mouth or anything, but everything you just said are things that do/did apply to me. For most of my life I ignored and denied the shitty stuff that happened to me as a little kid, or tried to justify and minimise it and stuff. But the effects of abuse still come out in lots of ways. Like I said I'm not going to put words in your mouth or insist you must have been abused as a kid, but getting off to the thought of being abused especially rings true.
I don't know man, maybe im just overly sensitive because of my own past experiences, but I honestly hope you're ok.
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>>18717140
>Bait. No1 is this stupid. This is 'i can't wipe my own ass' retarded.
No, I honestly believe every word I said. Once again, feel free to point out where and how I went wrong.
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>>18717224
You are a piece of shit mayne and you know it. No way around it. Fuck off and die please. No one needs your edgy smart guy routine. You suck. I bet youre an old guy. No one else would ever recommend age play. Nasty piece of shit. Cant wait til you and yours are gone from the world.
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>>18717224
Everything, everything is wrong. You can string sentences together, you got that going for you. But other than that every point is so far off base a professional can make their career treating you.
>First off, this is normal
No it's not.
>Children are sexual beings
No they're not. They don't know what sex is. They have limited boundaries because they don't know what is sexual and what isn't. They are driven by impulse. They need to be taught boundaries, obviously.
>viewing CP isn't harming anyone.
Yes it does. It creates demand that fuels supply. Economics 101. The second half is truly ridiculous.
I still think this is bait, I'm only posting this in case there's lurkers that actually believe this shit.
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>>18717249
>You are a piece of shit mayne and you know it.
No, I'm just somebody that disagrees with you, and rather than argue your logically inconsistent position, you're trying to pathologize disagreement.

>No one else would ever recommend age play.
Age play really isn't my thing, but I don't have a time machine or reverse aging ray or something I could lend to OP. I figured this was a scientifically plausible substitute.

>>18717254
>No it's not.
It is. Do you think cavemen carded potential mates to make sure they were over the legal age of majority? 17-19 year olds have always been the most desirable mates since the dawn of time. Do you really think that desirability instantly appears on one special birthday?

You can argue that minor attraction isn't socially acceptable and I'll agree with you. You can argue that it should continue to be socially unacceptable and I'll disagree with you. But you can't, in good faith, argue that it's unnatural, because that is obviously and demonstrably false.

>They are driven by impulse.
Driven by impulse to, say, touch their genitals? And maybe others' as well? I'm glad we're in agreement.

Part 1 of 3 or 4. Lengthy diatribe incoming.
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>>18717444
Continued
>It creates demand that fuels supply. Economics 101.
You see, you don't actually understand the "CP market". The FBI and NCMEC love to make up imaginary numbers about how much money there is in this, but those numbers are equal parts lie and delusion.

All of the actual money in the "CP industry" is in child modeling. The reason they're able to make actual real dollars that they can take to the store and buy things with is because it's not illegal. If you'd like an example, go on and Google "Kristina Piminova". Don't worry, it's all legal and completely worksafe. There's also a bit of money in legal family nudism. Those sites are still operating in the open because they're completely legal (though NSFW, obviously).

When you get through all of that, there's a tiny fraction that's left, and this is mostly webcam masturbation videos and naked selfies that kids make themselves. Maybe they'll regret it later, maybe they won't, but having 100 views instead of 1000 views won't really affect that. What will affect it is those children being sent to prison for creating and distributing CP, like that high school kid that killed himself a few months back after being threatened with 30 years in prison and a lifetime registration as a sex offender after sending a dick pic to a classmate on request.
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>>18717444
You chose not to greentext the edgy smart guy thing huh
You know its true
Fuck outta here
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>>18717448
Continued

And then, when you get through all of that, there's an even tinier subset, which is the actual CP you're thinking of. Things start to get really fuzzy here because there is no extant framework for quantifying minors' level of consent. Fuzzy isn't good enough, so I'll agree with you that this is not okay to produce and distribute, but I'll qualify that by saying that it's plausible that some of it could be okay if circumstances were different.

Now, here's the secret: the currency for CP is CP itself. The people who make this stuff don't do it for money or for pats on the back or for gold stars. They do it because there's an enormous amount of content out there, but very little of it is easily accessible. The way you get it is by trading, and the best people to trade with are a small number of collectors. Every time one of these collectors gets busted, the remainder gain a stronger position. These guys demand OC in return for access to their collections. This is how the supply and demand of the CP market works. It has nothing to do with viewership or ratings or anything like that. It's about trading new content for existing content.
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>>18717454
Kys
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>>18717454
Final installment

And this leads us to hurtcore. This is a truly fucked up Daisy's Destruction type shit, and as I said before, I absolutely, in no way, shape, or form, will allow myself to be construed as condoning this shit. Fortunately, this is a niche inside a niche inside a niche, and not many people are interested in it. Unfortunately, it's a growing market. Why? Because once you throw most of those collectors in prison, the ones that are left are wily fuckers that are smart enough not to get caught. And they know that there are (thankfully) still some lines that LEAs won't cross. Posting OC hurtcore is a 100% guarantee that you aren't an undercover FBI agent. So what's happening here is that the very laws intended to protect children (from imaginary magical harm through a computer screen) are pushing people to abuse those children in ever more horrific ways.

So I'm going to finish off this rant by saying yes, I'm fucking mad. I'm mad because children are out there right now being hurt and killed, and you, in your short sightedness, support the conditions that make it happen. Your hatred of me and those like me blinds you the actual injustices against children, whether it's teenage "child pornographers" being jailed or driven to suicide, youths being jailed for weeks without legal recourse for refusing to testify against their adult lovers, 6 year olds being registered for life as sex offenders (and as a result, not being allowed within 1/4 mile of any school or playground, requiring weekly check-ins from the police, and many other heinous restrictions), or infants being raped, beaten, and murdered just so some worthless piece of shit can get into a secret club for worthless pieces of shit.

>>18717451
Because it was bait and didn't justify a response. So is your post here, but sometimes I can't help myself.
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>>18717461
Cp is ok as long as its not "hurt core"
Yea kys
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>>18715548
Just popping in to tell you to kys.
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>>18717469
Literally not what I said. Try again.
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>>18717479
"hurt core" is what we should save our hatred for in the cp world
Yea kys
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Here is another one for you OP. If all pedos like you had a short drop followed by a sudden stop there would be no demand or production.

The true solution therefor is for you to kys.
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>>18717480
Also not what I said. Why do you even bother to try to misrepresent what I've said when anyone can just scroll up two posts and see that you're an idiot with grade school level reading comprehension?

>>18717484
83% of convicted child molesters aren't actually attracted to children. In fact, pedophiles are under represented amongst sex offenders against children. Just putting that out there.
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>>18717489
>having all this knowledge/cp research under your belt
You FBI or somethin
If not, yea kys
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>>18717489
You aren't giving reasons to not hang pedos, you are simply pointing out that only hanging pedos isn't quite enough, but it would be a good start.

Kys.
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>>18717521
>People who are informed should all kill themselves
That's not really a sustainable position.

>>18717539
There is no correlation between age of attraction and likelihood of abusing children. What exactly is your justification for killing people for thoughtcrime?
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>>18717568
Literally no reason to know any of that shit unless you are leo or a pedo.
Since you wont explain yourself guess which one im going with
Kys
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>>18717582
Yeah, we can't have people out there with forbidden knowledge that undermines the government's ability to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they scream "muh chilluns" loud enough.
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>>18717606
I rekt you pedo scum kys
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>>18717612
Sorry, I must have missed it. How exactly did you rekt me?
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>>18717623
You rekt right now on damage control. Youre a pedo and you know it.
Kys.
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This thread is like a live-action adaptation of an ironic mspaint strawman comic.
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>>18717626
So your "rekt"ing begins and ends with an ad hominem? Congratulations, you're an idiot. Note that that's not an ad hominem.
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ITT OP tries to rationalize being a pedo
I miss the good old days when OP was merely a fag, not a pedo.

Kys OP.
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was it CP or some teenage bootycall video cause there's no need to freak out over some amateur video of some 16 years olds banging on their dad's truck
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>>18717650
An ad hominem? You being a pedo is a fact. Kys.
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>>18716871
You do know a psychologist cannot tell anyone you're a pedo or anything and that anything between you two is non-disclosure. It's literally their job to steer people out of bad situations.
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>>18718240
Ad hominem doesn't mean libel. It means making claims against the person rather than the argument. My personal preferences are irrelevant here, it doesn't make me wrong.

>>18718325
No, there's a special exemption for pedophiles and suspected pedophiles. Look up mandated reporting laws. They're often broadly interpreted so anyone who mentions ever popping a boner in the general vicinity of a child gets reported. Mandated reporting is a terrible idea because it means there is no steering to be had there, just the threat of indefinite civil commitment (being jailed for life without a trial on the basis that pedophiles are mentally ill and a threat to themselves and others, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary).
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>>18716903
Man, people don't choose to be born with brain problems. Their arousal isn't a choice it's just their fucked up brain. If they aren't hurting children then you need to learn to let then live in obscurity.
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>>18718343
Yes, being a pedo makes you wrong.
Kys.
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>>18718528
I'm only wrong if you can explain where I've made an incorrect claim and how it's incorrect.
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>>18718538
Nah, thats just you trying to avoid the real subject at hand. That being you are a pedo and therefore everything else you do/say is wrong because you should have killed yourself years ago. You want to try and argue logic like anyone will ever get past the part where youre a kiddie diddler and take you seriously as an equal human being. Fuck you, kys my man.
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