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Is nofap a meme? I have the urge to fap almost everyday. I usually

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Is nofap a meme?

I have the urge to fap almost everyday. I usually don't make it more than two days. I'm wondering if it'll be better to have some self control or to give in. I think I should stop but I don't know if I have a good reason to.

I'm thinking of going for it but not watching any porn as the porn is the real killer.
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I'm a member of no fap who typically makes it between 3 days and a week before relapsing to my imagination (I am going for no orgasms due to masturbation). I haven't gained anything but embarrassment from it after when I fail and restart my counter. But honestly, anything is better then fapping 4 times in a single day to fetish porn.

I 100% agree that porn is the real enemy here though.
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Yes and no. Fapping itself is fine but the porn you watch while doing it is not. In fact if you watch/look at porn even without fapping then it is bad for you. Go ahead and fap but do not into porn.
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Noporn is the big one to strive for. However, after 2 weeks of not fapping I've notices girls paying more attention to me. I honestly believe the shit they say about pheromones.
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>>18697934
>masturbating
it's ok
>false stimulation using pornography
not ok
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Yes, it's a meme. That rich, handsome, successful guy? He wanks and looks at porn. Refraining from masturbation and/or porn will not turn you into him.
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I may be an isolated case but since I started nofap (I haven't tapped in over 150 days now) Ive become much happier and even gotten myself a girlfriend and just felt more confident trying new things. I don't know if this is linked to nofap but it seems like pretty big coincidence if it isn't
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>>18697934

It really is worth it.

No fap betters your life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNcTqykDJ98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytMMnZKMz7U

Porn HURTS you actively psychologically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmsft93LGoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8n74OdNMh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTjZvlKfNtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRJ_QfP2mhU

And Porn abuses women systematically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPGD0kLqJ8c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGdMi-oC9nM
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>>18698055
>And Porn abuses women systematically:

Get that shit out of here
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>>18697934

Yes.

Masturbation is absolutely a good thing. Porn is kinda a neutral thing. It's not neccesarily good, but not necessarily bad either. It's a bit like alcohol, just depends on the usage.

I masturbate, and look at porn, and date. I currently have a GF. I think a man should be deeply engaged in his sexual feelings and seek out his desires using whatever means necessary.
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>>18697934

Furthermore...

I think a lot of the anti-porn sentiment is driven by pissed off women, who are mad that men are less likely to put up with their shit, when with the click of a few buttons they can have a 10/10 virtual sex slave.

Next time you are with a chick just ask her how she feels about the possible creation of artificial AI fembots that men can have sex with. 95% of them are gonna be appalled. For the most part, the only power that women have in society is in their sexual appeal as baby makers. They leverage this aspect of biology to live life on easy mode and STILL complain about it.

Not to go on a whole MGTOW rant or anything, but take back your power as a man.
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>>18698117
That Is BS. there is a lot of science that actually shows porn is harmful for your brain and causes depression and a lot of other problems. Just look at the videos under the porn section here.: >>18698055


Moderate Masturbation is ok (Even the benefits of No Fap - that exist! - flatten out at around 3 weeks in), but it shouldn't be done to porn. Use your fantasy instead.
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>>18698143

Oh, I'm sorry do you mean studies that use correlation to arrive at a conclusion???

Correlation and Causation are two important terms that society would be a lot smarter if all individuals understood the differences.

I can't say I've read every anti-porn research study but the majority look at a bunch of ex-cons and try to connect their porn usage to violent crime, etc...

Guess I shouldn't drink beer because many criminals drink beer right?
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Currently worried i have Porn induced ED
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Women have a cycle. Men have a charge level.

If a male faps 3x per day then their charge is always near-zero. Not fapping at all means your charge depends on when you had your last wet dream.
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>>18698087
It does you piece of shit.
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I "reset the timer" on my NoFap after over a month (lost count of the days) and I nearly blew a hole in the wall of my bathroom
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>>18697934
>>18698107
>I think a man should be deeply engaged in his sexual feelings and seek out his desires using whatever means necessary.

Imagine dating a woman who thinks like this, OP.
Seriously not worth it. You're going to have kids one day. Think of your daughter.
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>>18698402
>reset the timer
>nearly blew a hole in the wall of my bathroom

Was the lever stuck?
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>>18698117
>95% of them are gonna be appalled.

If you;re the least bit honest with yourself, you'd be fucking disgusted too. Can you imagine your wife getting a big black android cock on the daily and turning you down for sex to play with it?
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No it's legit.

It's good for your dopamine system, because reproduction is the most important thing to your evolutionary body, the dopamine bursts from orgasms are like as strong as heroin, once you stop or slow down at least you will notice a positive difference. It's not a magic pill by any means, but I personally have definitely noticed a difference as far as my general attitude and outlook, my productivity and motivation, my sociability, and my performance in bed is on fucking point, it also really keeps me motivated to approach and find new women to form connections with, and it makes me escalate physically very naturally, as opposed to feeling like i need to do it but not being quite as horny.

Generally I'm not super strict about it, I get laid most weeks so I try to not fap at all and just cum that way, but if i dont for some reason I'll allow myself 1 fap, and I don't beat myself up if i fuck up on the rare occasion, as long as most of the time I'm good and I don't allow myself to lapse back into doing it habitually.

Tbh it gets really easy, I don't really enjoy porn anymore, it feels so shallow and empty and worthless, such a dirty easy high you don't deserve
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>>18697934
The benefits aren't a meme

Whenever I limit jerking off to like 0 or 1 time a week my game pretty much skyrockets.
>Nagging feeling about how to properly interact with people disappears
>Increased eyecontact
>Touching women feels a lot more natural
>When something I want to do comes up I have the energy to just go out and do it rather than just going "maybe later"
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>>18698424
Never heard of vibrators? Women have been using technology for years for sexual gratification and nobody bats an eyelid. But as soon as men find an alternative to women it's a great big deal.
AI sexbots are a huge threat to women and they know it.
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Secret bonus question:

If you find no fap so easy it scares you and you're often wondering if you should be fapping for the purpose of maintaining drive, what do?
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I did 2 weeks nofap then went in vacation and ended up to a massage parlor where I got genital to genital contact and 3 weeks later a positive herpes blood work, went into depression for 5 months, repeated the test and found out the first result was a false positive and that I'm clean.
But yeah I was a desperate cunt so meh
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Does anybody have any tips? The most I can do is 3 weeks hardmode but I always relapse.
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>>18697934
Well, I was much more motivated and productive when I was doing it.
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>>18697934
>>18699047

I can't talk about other people, but for me:
1. With porn use i usually spiral out of control, especially if i have nothing to do during the day. I literally can't feel motivation to do anything but fap. I usually end up with psychological ED

2. Nofap really helps me. I'm able to actually do things that i need to and stay focussed for longer. I can become productive, which makes me feel very good [about myself].

3. Nofap fixes ED. It's quite exciting for me to be able to get boners without porn. For example, I can feel the pleasure from looking at something so innocuous as the picture in the OP. But I try to avoid too much of even that. If i relapse prematurely, the burst of pleasure ruins the progress and i quickly become desensitized again.

4. The hardest part of nofap for me is day ~14. It becomes incredibly hard. Past that point though, the 'fever breaks' and it gets progressively easier. By day 30 I often find myself forgetting about porn and fapping

5. It makes it incredibly easier for me to do nofap if I start on the first of a month. Then it becomes extremely easy to track my progress by just looking at a clock/calendar. It engages this sort if 'achievement' mechanic in my mind like with a video game, and makes me want to not lose my streak. For me, without this tool, I generally don't have the willpower to start and maintain nofap beyond a couple days.

6. The more you do nofap, the easier it becomes to start again, like with working out your body.

7. I allow myself to have real sex during nofap after the first month. This gives me a lot of drive to git gud at real life, socializing, and girls. I think this is how human males are supposed to be.


Just my 2c and experience. Hopefully it helps someone.
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>Tfw when you've legit never masturbated or watched porn
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>>18698792
Both should be discouraged. They're for sluts to use.
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>>18697934
3 day intervals is probably best
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>>18698055
What if I just fap to "normal" women I've met in my personal life or been on dates with, and never look at porn or /s/ type of content?
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>>18697934
It's not a meme, but the benefits are overblown. If you're so weak willed that you consider 3 days an achievement, your problems are much bigger than what nofap could fix
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I've found that the urges stop being as strong if you can make it past the two week mark. It's all about how your body produces hormones in response to sexual stimuli; after orgasm, your body will start to become more aroused in the days (or hours, if your body is really accustomed to it) following that it might otherwise be, but if you wait weeks, your hormones will start to level out and you can approach life with a clear head.

Porn definitely doesn't make it any easier; I've gone multiple days where I didn't think about anything sexual, didn't even get aroused at all, and then stumbled upon porn, suddenly reminding my body that it exists
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