>21 year old male >Go to a good university >Have direction

>>18694385
need to be rude

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>>18694390
Rude to women? I don't think that'll help me somehow.

I discovered some time ago that a lot of women I know apparently think I "hate" them, because I come across as nonchalant and arrogant around them. I don't intend to do this.

>>18694390
Unironically this

Which is to say, do the things you think are rude.
Like touching them the first time.
Kissing them when they don't expect it.

Generally be touchy. You think that's rude as shit.
But women want it.
Women want to be touched too much rather than too little

>>18694385
Because you being able to dress well or being good at uni is completely unrelated to your social skills with women. Being good at cycling doesn't make you good at soccer. It is definitely beneficial in some regards, but still completely different. Build that skill like you've build other skills.

>They never seem interested
Do you seem interested?

>>18694408
I have very deep self-esteem issues from my teenage years when I was bullied. And on top of this I'm pretty sure I have a phobia of physical contact with women, even though I strongly desire it.

I'm scared that if I touch a girl, she might be repulsed. And I have never been able to bring myself to do it, because I have zero experience (literally ZERO) with physical intimacy, and so I wouldn't know what I'm doing.

>Kissing them when they don't expect it.
I don't know how to kiss.

>>18694411
>Because you being able to dress well or being good at uni is completely unrelated to your social skills with women
I'm just disappointed, because it seems like I don't receive any more attention from women as a 21 year old who consciously tries to be attractive than I did as a 16 year old who put no effort in.

>Do you seem interested?
Probably not. I don't know how to flirt or show interest in women.

>>18694431
>I have a phobia of physical contact with women, even though I strongly desire it.
Welcome to my life.
I've got 10 years on you
And let me tell you it does not go away.

You just need to do it anyways.
Put your hand around her and pull her towards you
Kiss her whenever she looks up to you

It feels like shit to do that
But you have to

Men have to be the first in everything.
So go be handsy.

>>18694431
>I'm just disappointed, because it seems like I don't receive any more attention from women as a 21 year old who consciously tries to be attractive than I did as a 16 year old who put no effort in.
Honestly, if a guy puts too much effort into how he looks, especially when all he's doing is going to class, is a bit of a turnoff. All I can think is "who the fuck are you trying to impress?"

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>>18694443
This is wonderful advice and I'd love to try it.

But as it stands this is rather impossible for me, because in the entire time I've been at university I've never managed to do anything more than make friends with a girl. I can't even get to the physical stage.

>>18694449
>Honestly, if a guy puts too much effort into how he looks, especially when all he's doing is going to class, is a bit of a turnoff. All I can think is "who the fuck are you trying to impress?"

I mean, in all honesty, I just like wearing clothes that I think are cool. I would do it even if it didn't change anyone's opinion of me.

But the way you describe it it sounds like I just can't win either way. If I put effort in, I'm "trying too hard". If I don't put effort in, I'll look like a bland, non-noteworthy character.

>>18694431
>Probably not. I don't know how to flirt or show interest in women.
Well then is it really all that surprising that they don't seem interested in a romantical way? You don't give them anything to reciprocate. Be clear about what you want from them. Be flirty, be sexual, be touchy.

>>18694431
TL;DR: You are just another insecure, inexperienced guy. Learn how to flirt, then practice it.

>>18694449
>who the fuck are you trying to impress
You.

>>18694466
>You don't give them anything to reciprocate. Be clear about what you want from them. Be flirty, be sexual, be touchy.

How do I do this when I have no sexual charisma? A virgin who has never been on a date can't suddenly be seducing women with a silver tongue. I don't have any clue what to say to a girl to get her attracted.

>>18694450
>I can't even get to the physical stage.
There is no such stage. You are physical right from the go.

>But as it stands this is rather impossible for me
Well, what do you want us to do mate? YOU have to make yourself do this. We can't do it for you. If you're unable to do it - being a wizard is great too, I heard.

>>18694456
>>18694466
Does it impress guys if a girl turns up to class dressed to the nines?

>>18694385
You put a lot into your life but it doesn't sound like you put anything into your dating method specifically. That probably explains the lack of success. And did you just meet the women, or did you actually befriend them?

Don't just expect things without doing what it takes to get them. Kudos for living a good life, though - it makes accomplishing things much easier.

>>18694450
>more than make friends with a girl. I can't even get to the physical stage.
I think you underestimate yourself
If a girl wants to make friends, 9/10 she is willing to be fucked by you.
If not, she'll make it clear from the get go.

It's college mate, they want to be fucked like you want to fuck,
If you're still in college, fucking go for it..

Even if, somehow, they don't want to be fucked on the first study session, push on them

Whatever happens, mate. talk to a girl on your classes. And then ask her to study. And then fucking FUCK her.
If you ask her to study, she knows you want to fuck her. It's no secret
Ask her and set up a room to do it.

You niggers are kids, god damn it.
You want to fuck. She wants to fuck. Hell, she'll hump a god damned bed post.
All you got to do is look willing and able to "help" her studies.
It's college nigga

>>18694481
I don't really have any proper female friends. I have girls that I see regularly, who know me quite well and who hang out in my social circles. But I can't call them proper friends. If not for the fact that I have male friends who invite girls to things with me, and also that I have hobbies that are girl friendly, I probably wouldn't end up meeting any women.

I imagine that the reason for this is something to do with not feeling comfortable around girls, and therefore not being able to develop deeper connections with them.

The other issue is that I assume most women I speak to dislike me, because they never seem very enthusiastic or excited to be speaking with me.

>>18694472
You don't say 'a thing' to attract them. But I can't teach you how to flirt on 4chan. Just one thing I found helpful:

Look them straight in the eyes while thinking about them sucking your dick. Imagine the Sound of her gagging on your wiener. No, seriously. And embrace that thought. Picture the most dirty stuff you can think of. Your weirdest fetish involving them. I find it hilarious to talk about the most innocent, mundane stuff, while imagining her begging for my load. Teaches you to some extent to be comfortable about the things you want to do with them (or: your sexuality), gives your eyes a nices, horny look and, atleast for me, makes me have fun and smile a whole lot. Also it infact makes you horny. And we purchase better while horny.

I know this will come of wrong and make you look like a creepy pedophile, but it has worked for non-autistic people.

>>18694479
I like looking at beautiful women rather than hobos - so yes, in a way.

>>18694492
ok so we don't need friends all the time but did you ever make female friends?

if not, then we detected the problem over the internet without much description, so...

>why this is, why this is
try being more solution-minded than problem-minded

sorry I can't be more help but I don't know you irl and I'm not gonna start pitching PUA

at least you identified the issue and can start working on it

>not comfortable around girls
they're not snakes or whizzing bullets or cancer I don't think that's a rational fear

maybe you could be afraid of them fucking with your emotions but eventually we all see that's in our control

>>18694511
I just don't think I've ever had a PROPER friend who is a girl. I know a lot of girls but they're all just people I see semi-regularly. I just can never develop real friendships with them.

It's hard to justify why I'm scared of women. I worry that they're always judging me, how I act, how I look, etc. And they have great power over me because of how much I fear being rejected by them.

>>18694571
right. so what are you gonna do about it?

>>18694571
>I worry that they're always judging me, how I act, how I look, etc
They do. Just like you do. Like everyone does. Care about it. Just don't make your selfworth dependent on it.

>And they have great power over me because of how much I fear being rejected by them.
Then strip them of that power. Learn to not fear being rejected. Even if you have fuck it up with them on purpose to learn this. Learn to laugh at being rejected. Don't take this shit so seriously.

>>18694571
>>18694589
oh and you're right if you are feeling this way girls with bad intentions can fuck with your mind seriously bad. you need to stop placing so much immediate importance on the puss.