i've been seeing this girl, and we haven't had sex,

>>18676250
>and we haven't had sex, but we've going on 5+ dates
how much have things escalated?

>>18676250
Presume you like her and attempt handholding. Ask herbon date and stop overthinking nonsense.

In the worst case you will have sex after marriage. Aka not a big deal.

>>18676250
Well you like her enough to stick around for more than 5 dates. Is the zero physical affection enough for you to call this a relationship? If it's not, maybe bring it up to her, ask her where she stands on the issue. May turn out she's asexual or some shit and never ever wants to have sex ever. Still in after that? That's a fringe case, but you see my point.

Talk to the fucking girl. Ask yourself WHY you're staying. Ask yourself if it's worth staying with or without sex in the picture.

Try a little self-awareness.

>>18676345
i just chalked it up to logistics. i don't have my own place, and she doesn't want to make things awkward with her roommate (she's trying to get her own place). We have kissed (albeit, on the third date which was also strange) and last time we hung out, I got to third base (i think?) and she's been saying how much she wants it. I'm not concerned it won't happen, i'm just concerned as to whether that's why i am sticking around, because we all know sex can be blinding.

>>18676528
Not for 5+ dates and several weeks/months. If you're just in it for the sex by that point, you're genuinely retarded, and she knows that.

Are you going to break up with her after she has sex with you?

>no
Then you're not just in it for the sex dingus.

>yes
Then you're just in it for the sex and I feel really badly for you for waiting so long, but I hope she finds out before you do have sex so she saves herself the trouble.

>I don't know
Then maybe you should again, ask yourself if this is really a relationship you want to be in. You're literally the only person who knows if the only reason you're staying is the nebulous promise of sex someday.

>>18676535
i don't think i'll want to leave right after sex. but who can honestly say they haven't had sex with someone, and then lost some of the initial "feelings" they had, because most of the thrill is gone?

>>18676258
I've been inside her with everything except my penis.