So I'm in a very long distance relationship with my girlfriend,

>>18653654
People watch porn. If shes that insecure about it theres more problems than just that.

Youre a male. You need some kind of outlet for your ridiculous indiscriminate sex drive.

Some women dont understand that shit. They live in disneyland.

Getting out of a porn kick is hard, especially when forced out of it. The trick is to take your mind off of it. If you have to, visualize her when you masturbate.

>>18653657
I generally agree with this comment but wanted to add that if you promised her to not watch porn and it's important to her, breaking that promise is not right regardless of whether or not she has a legitimate point. These are her irrational feelings that you promised to respect. If she catches you then "I know I promised but deep down I thought you were being silly" is not an argument even if 90% of mankind would agree.

Either stick to fantasy or try again to get across to her that you don't compare her to women in porn and yada yada. She's going to be hard pressed to find a man who never wants to look at it.

If you're not looking to marry her and think of her needs before yours every day for the rest of your life and have the faith that yours will be met by hers as well although maybe at different times than each other (love) there's no point in dating.

>>18653661

it's not irrational, porn is cheating. whether the woman is on a screen or in the room, you're engaging in a sexual act without your girlfriend and with another person. why do so many guys try to justify it if she's not there physically it isn't cheating?

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>>18653654
Don't watch porn, instead, fap to 2d.

>>18653654
>I used porn. She said she considered it the same as cheating, so I quit for her sake, because I love her.
You should never change for a woman in this way. It's not even rational to consider this cheating. But if you are willing to change for her, why not ask her to supply you with nudes photos to jack off too.

>>18653677
Cheating by definition is what the people in the relationship have agreed it constitutes. Some men would consider their wife flirting with someone else infidelity, some would happily see her fuck someone else.

I'd also argue that you aren't really engaging in a sexual act "with" anyone while watching porn, it's by definition a one way street (unless you are thinking of camwhores). But either way I guess that irrational was a tad unfair but she has a requirement that most men will not be able to meet and are perfectly able to balance with being a devoted partner.

>>18653687
It is rational to consider it cheating if he says he won't but does it anyway.

>>18653654

This is a "relationship" that you need to end. Do you even have a game plan for living closer to each other? You need some kind of sexual outlet, and she won't even provide a picture of her face. These insecurities of hers are just going to get worse if you two get together. It's time to end this, it's a pretty clear sign. Date someone you can see.

OP here, let me be clear that I didn't break my promise, I've not been looking at porn, I'm not doing it behind her back or anything.

>>18653680
I actually brought this up and she said she said she feels the same regardless if it's 2D.

>>18653687
Like I said, she's completely insecure with pictures, she tries to send me pictures, but never nudes or even of just her face, which I understand. When I was with her in person and we agreed to take a couple pictures together, she broke down crying after just two.

>>18653704
>even if it's 2D
I'm sorry man, but even I would have problems with this. Follow this anon's >>18653687 advice. NEVER change for a woman. I've learned the hard way about LDRs, unless she is willing to meet with you every time you need to release your pent up frustrations, she doesn't have a say.

>>18653704
I'd focus on watching porn over having pictures of her. Obviously this is a sore spot for her personally but the risk of recognizable pictures is HUGE. Even if you don't leak them they can get stolen and if they do leak then people are stone cold and act like taking naked pictures of yourself is some unheard of act of depravity that deserves resulting in your life being ruined. There's even men into sadistic games that get a thrill out of making sure that nudes of "normal" girls they never wanted to go public get spread again and again, just because they love the power of knowing they can ruin a stranger's life with a few clicks.

It's not about how likely this scenario is but more about just how much it would suck if things went wrong.

>>18653690
So not keeping a promise to a significant other is always cheating?

>>18653704
Oh well if you can't get over it just dump her. She's allowed to feel that way but you're also allowed to have your deabreakers too.

>>18653689

"Devotion" is by definition selfless, completely giving of oneself to a creature or thing. It is impossible to be a "devoted" partner and look at porn or indulge any lustful thought about another.

It doesn't matter if it's a live person on screen or not either. If you're dating someone and would be upset if they cheated, and they consider jerking off to any other woman on a screen or live cheating, you're being unkind.

>>18653710
If you deliberately break that promise. Yep. You're better off dumping her

>>18653716
>"Devotion" is by definition selfless
I don't agree with this. Putting someone else's needs above yours (at times) feels good for both parties and most people want to occasionally get lost in someone else. It's not all or nothing. For me devoted makes means choosing again and again to prioritize your relationship (over attention from other people, for example), not never ever having a moment where you experience being a sexual being outside of the context of the relationship.

There cannot be objective truth about this, anyway. I think my partner getting off to porn is hot as fuck and that on my end, devotion to my partner involves being respectful of their physical needs and whatever they do in private to their own body to feel good.

Either way I said in the very first message that I don't condone OP breaking his promise. But because he promised this to her and not because anything is objectively wrong with watching porn.

>>18653718
Shit I didn't get the groceries to day like promised my gf this morning. Better break up with her when she gets home from work.

>>18653728
No need to be obtuse.

Just fucking masturbate to pork it's perfectly normal to do that in a relationship. Hey it's better than actually fucking someone else isn't it, she won't know

>>18653739
Porn not pork but you can do that if you want as well

>>18653677
So weve been listening to you say all the things about being a woman that men cant possibly understand because they arent women. I get that. I understand fully that i cant possibly understand a lot about what its like to be a woman.


Now meet us in the middle here... Due to our sex drives, instincts, and hard wiring, porn is a non negotiable thing. You couldnt possibly understand because you aren't a man.

We have an insatiable need for sexual diversity. Be glad we now have something like super easy access to pornography that keeps the mistresses away.

A man who is inclined to watch porn who is then banned from watching porn will, if he complies, go literally insane.

>>18653654
>ldr
Dont even bother. Simply watch porn and dont tell her.
https://yourbrainonporn.com/

Women are retards
Keep watching porn, fuck that retarded insecure bitch
>haven't seen her face
I know what you're going through funny enough, she's likely a whore with secrets
My ex has the same issues and she's in denial that a lot of it has to do with her being obese and insecure
Funny enough she has all these guys she secretly chatted with that gave her attention but I'm the monster for watching porn
Men need to release regularly, it's just the way it is

>>18654847
I have seen her face though, I lived with her for two months when I visited her. It's just with having pictures taken that she gets anxiety due to her being traumatized from when she was a kid.

>>18653677
What the fuck? This is the reason guys see us as irrational sensitive fucks. Watching porn isnt cheating at all. Its just a fucking video. Unless hes actually doing sexual acts with another women then yes thats cheating

>>18653654

>So I'm in a very long distance relationship with my girlfriend, and she was upset with the fact that I used porn.

It only took one sentence to determine that your relationship is as good as over. That was quick.

>>18653677
So if I dream about sex I'm cheating despite it being subconscious and completely out of your control

>>18653704
>even if it's 2D
How do you deal with your Gf being impossibly insecure as fuck?
You know this won't be the end, right? Not the first time she will take something from you so she can feel safe/secure.
Pretty soon she will want to police your thoughts too. Damaged goods

>>18653677
You're not engaging with another person, because they have 0 interaction with you

Now if he was talking to a camwhore then definitely it is understandable to see that as cheating

But not watching porn

The only problem with porn is if he was ignoring his girlfriend and her needs and fapping to porn instead of fucking her, but that isn't the case here

>>18653704
She's got serious insecurity issues then.

Maybe you're better off breaking up then. You can't live like this with a girl worrying about your every fucking move.

One day she'll hear about you going out with your friends and she'll go apeshit even if you didn't do anything

>>18653704
she's got some very serious psychological issues

you're gonna have to decide if that's something you can live with

>>18653704
what happens when she decides you can't speak to women IRL either unless they're a cashier or your boss?
how about when she's been sick for two weeks and not feeling like having sex and you just need to jerk off?
think down the road here, unless you have a fetish for being controlled and told what to do this will never work

>>18653704
thats INSANE
she is INSANE
run for the friggin hills

>>18653654
I'm in a long distance relationship and I watch porn and my gf doesn't care.
She watches porn. its normal.

I've had a gf in the past tell me that if i'm watching porn what do I need her for?
Turns out, she was super insecure and projecting it on me.

Its not a good sign dude. I mean if you don't have a porn addiction its not a problem. If she makes it a problem that is a sign of a deep rooted insecurity on her part. That level of insecurity is a red flag.

you need to have an open discussion about this and your feelings and why it is not cheating while trying to get to why she feels so uncomfortable. If that goes really poorly..... find another woman

Put antifreeze in condom...stick cock in condom...masturbate violently while crying...

My girlfriend has pretty big insecurities about her body too. She hates her face and hates pictures of it. Make it clear to her that you need to see her in some way. I've been in your place and it lead to fights but she started sending me nudes without her face and the occasional selfie. Ldr is already hard enough as it is. No need to further increase the difficult.
Also have an end date after which you will live together. Else the relationship will fail.

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>>18653654


HOLY SHIT OP SAME HERE

My long distance gf and I still haven't had sex because every time we're about to I get nervous and soft
>[both virgins]

Problem was I thought watching porn had nothing to do with it, possibly even help me last longer if I watched it more. Out of nowhere I was too busy with work/life so I didn't watch for like a week. She comes over and I'm hard as a rock, too bad she was on her period.

We're going to try again when she comes over for Thanksgiving, but holy shit man I never knew porn had any impact in my life.

>>18653654

>dude, if you let a girl tell you what to do then your really insecure.

>it's your life and if you want to watch porn then watch porn. A lot.

>or dump the bitch. There a millions of nice local women for you out there.

>just get confident, get dressed up and pack your humor box al the time and have fun.

>life is too short to wait for a long distance chick.

>and for the same money :she's probably fucking around all the time. You ain't gonna find out.

>don't waste your time bro. Good luck

When I came clean to my wife (then girlfriend) about my pornography addiction, she addressed it as something we could work on and over come together. she didn't judge me or guilt me, she was understanding and loving. that's how I knew she was the right one for me. its been six years and we are expecting our second child today.

>>18656224
Pornographie fucks you up man. Also why didn't you hit that bloody pussy. Afraid of some blood on your dick?

>>18654586
>man says all men are sex crazed and dying to cheat, gets praised for honesty
>woman says the same, gets called a feminazi
You dipshits can't have it both ways.