Does penis size actually matter? I'm a virgin with a pretty

>>18625648
Your personality is what will attract them first and foremost. You have to be confident and being funny helps as well. Dick size doesn't even come into play until you start getting sexual and if you are willing to please her in other ways she probably won't mind.

Most women cannot cum from penetrational sex alone, period. So if you're disappointed that your dick will rarely make a girl cum, guess what, even if you had a horse cock this still would be the case.
You dick has the smallest factor in making her cum.

Now, that's not to say penetration doesn't feel good, it's just rarely what gives the orgasm. There is something to say about bigger dicks feeling better, but that's subjective.
Me personally, I hate big dicks because I hate that "filled up" feeling other girls claim to enjoy.


At the end of the day, penis envy and complexes about small dicks are a much larger turn off than your dick itself any day. Once you bang a chick you'll realize your size isn't that big a deal. Virginity makes guys screwy.

A fat friend of mine has a tiny dick and he fucks all the time. Same girls over again sometimes even.

>>18625660
>Most women cannot cum from penetrational sex alone
Why?

I was a pervert who watched porn a lot once and I never saw any girl cum from penetration... The one time I saw it, she came every few seconds.

Is it more psychological for females? Embarrassed to type this.

>>18625660
>>18625657
Tldr finger her, eat her out and then wank by yourself because your dick is irrelevant

>>18625668
Dont use porn as a sex education thing. Its all fake. You'll ruin your brain if you think any of that is real.

>>18625668
I'm not a girl so don't take my word for it, but girls generally don't get the same feeling, so they'll rub their clit to get the same feeling.

Don't worry about your dick size, sounds lame but it is what you do with it, and how long you last. If you last long enough she can get off.

>>18625668
Its because of nerve endings. There are very few in the vaginal canal itself, but a TON in the clit. And a lot of "vaginal orgasms" are usually due to the clit as well but its just because the dick is hitting the back side of the clit, the "G spot" if you will. However, some women do have true vaginal orgasms as well, just from the nerve endings in the vaginal canal. It's just rare.

>>18625668
>>18625677
Also yes, in general sex is more of a psychological experience for women. While men tend to get off more on the visual and physical sensations of it all, women tend to get off more on the situation, the mental experience, etc. On average at least, again, not all women are the same.
And I'm also not saying women don't get off at all to the physical feeling and the visuals of it, it's just at a smaller level compared to the average man.

>>18625648
In short, without sugar coating it: it matters, but so does a whole lot of other things in life that you can't change. You play the hand you're dealt with, even if it's not a good one.

Dick size matters to women, anyone who says otherwise is a liar. The real question is how much it matters - to most women it won't matter enough to dump you over it alone, so if you make up for it in other ways (personality, general attractiveness, money, eating her out) it'll be fine.

>>18625670
Well I mean, your dick is the most important thing in terms of it's biological function to reproduce. If you want a baby, you're gonna have to stick your dick inside her and cum.

it matters but its nothing close to the "u mad white bois" baits, I have a 19cm pretty big dick and while girls love how it looks, most of the time it hurts them and its harder to have sex, with some girls I need a lot of foreplay and to take it very slowly.
As long as you're average no girl will be upset, and as someone else said most girls need clitoris stimulation to cum anyway.

>>18625648
Yes, it matters. Any other answer is not the truth. You can still find a girl that likes you and likes your cock.

>>18625722
I'm not him, to be honest, the decision of having a kid is something I struggle with. I'm not sure what I'd say if my GF said she wanted one. On one hand, I've always dreamed of being a father. On the other hand, I feel like bringing children into the world is kinda cruel for the following reasons:

1. You're exposing someone to the cruelty and terror of returning to the void (dying)
2. The world (economy, environment) may not be in a livable state by the time they grow up or get a little older.
3. I've got various health problems and may not even live long enough to raise them properly.

Is it really right to reproduce, even ignoring number 3?

>>18625657
>personality
>attract them first and foremost
What? Are you a female?

I don't think any straight male is stupid enough to say something like that. LOOKS will attract first and foremost, always.

>>18625764
Oh I feel you, I'm in the DINK camp myself.
For similar reasons, I do not feel I would be an adept parent and would probably just fuck up the kid and I also have plenty of shit genes that tend to be dominant. My dad gave me and my sister the gift of knowing we are guaranteed to get a heart attack by no later than 60. He got 6 bypasses at 50 himself lol.

I don't put much stock into the "woe is the world" stuff though. Times are kinda shitty right now sure, but if you really look at it we really haven't been a straight downward slope. We go up and down. I'm a history education major, one thing I've learned studying the past is we're kind of a broken record. We have eras of absolute garbage, then we go to war, pick ourselves back up, have a great run, then do it all over again. If anything, I'd say within the next couple of generations, they'll be living on the peak of the good years, and it's their kids that will be living back in the shit.
I digress though, there are plenty of good reasons to not have kids. And the most important one is if you just plain do not want to do it. If you don't want to, you'll be a terrible parent, raise a terrible kid, and release that terrible kid to become a problem for the rest of the world. If you really want to do the world a favor, do not have kids unless you're 200% sure you want them.

>>18625767
Looks get you in the door, personality makes them stay.

This is pretty true of most people, regardless of sex. Even if you're a 10/10 if you're a piece of shit hardly anyone's gonna stick around.

I'd date a 5/10 with a 9/10 personality before I'd date a 9/10 with a 5/10 personality. But, I will admit I'm not gonna date a 1/10 with a 10/10 personality either. Gotta have sexual attraction to make it work, if you look like a hot dumpster fire it's not gonna happen.

>>18625648
For some girls it doesn't matter, for some girls it does. For me it's not only about better sex, it's about the status too. It's a very primal feeling, when I'm with a guy who has a big dick, I feel like he is superior to other men. He is better and he is mine, and knowing this gives me a lot of satisfaction. I can't speak for all girls, but the idea of being with a guy who is small dicked is kinda shameful to me because it makes me feel like I'm settling for a lessen man. I don't think it's a healthy mindset because it makes me fetishize dicks (and men) but it's just how I feel about that.

>>18625785
We haven't faced environmental problems of the scale we're currently facing at any point in human history. We have permafrost melting at an alarming rate, releasing untold amounts of greenhouse gases in an irreversible fashion. Most scientists agree that we've already reached the point of no return years ago, and now all we can do is soften/delay the impact - and we're not even doing that.

As for the economy, I'm more concerned about the effects of large scale automation - I'm not about to claim that humans will be unemployed, but I feel it's likely that incomes will drop as wealth is transferred to the rich/innovators who own the robots. Now, I'm a robot engineer so maybe I'll be fine, but I can't guarantee that if a kid I have for some reason is mentally impaired that he can get a good enough job like he would have been able to do in the past.

Overall, I really do want a kid, but I feel like I'd be a bad person for making one. And yet I'm too selfish to consider adoption. First world problems.

>>18625767
You don't go around with your dick out so you can mate. Guys who tell the "I can't meet girls because my dick is small" excuse are fucking pathetic.

>>18625835
Yeah, we've fucked ourselves on the environment I'll give you that, but the human race aint gonna let itself die out so easily. Push comes to shove we will put all our resources into figuring out how to reverse it or live in the current state.

The good thing about the economy is it usually corrects itself eventually. Eventually those at the top will stop making money and realize they have to spend money to make money. And spending money means hiring people so that they have money to buy the shit they're selling.

Yes, it's in a sorry state right now, but something will give eventually.

Anyway, right now you've probably got bigger concerns in life. Cross this bridge when you get to it, if you meet a nice young lady and realize you wanna spit out some babies with her, do it. If not, then don't/

>>18625827
fucking roastie hope you get the cheating you deserve

>>18625918
>getting this mad over someone voicing their opinion on a taiwanese basket-weaving image board

Grow up

>>18625798
you'll date the 9/10 and convince yourself his personality is 9/10.

>>18625918
??
It's a red flag anyway. Someone who cares about dick size that much you probably wouldn't want to date in the first place. It's kind of like a guy who doesn't want to date a woman unless she has huge tits.
Not a dicklet btw. 17 cm.

What's your size op?

>>18625648
LMAO I know how you feel OP. I am 10cm (about 4in) fully erect and I just came to terms with it a few months ago after much mental anguish. I used to rage about guys complaining about how their 15cm (about 5.5in) dick was small. Now I just find it funny. It still bothers me sometimes but not as much anymore. Maybe you'll feel the same in the future.

>>18626281
16 and a little bit

>>18625763
Do girls even like cocks? I thought they just look at it as something to get over with

>>18626684
>16 and a little bit|
Haha, I knew it! You have nothing to complain kid, you got a decent size. I am the anon above you, by the way. Be thankful.

>>18625648
My dick isn't big, OP. I had an escort give me an honest evaluation of my penis and she said that it was average. A lot of guys compare their dicks to porn and that most women in long term relationships prefer average to slightly above average dicks. Sure getting railed by a big dick is apparently amazing every once and a while but getting your insides reamed every night isn't something women like.

All in all, your dick (unless it's a micro penis) is probably fine. Just fuck and enjoy each other's bodies.

>>18626703
What qualifies for micro penis

>>18626720
Less 4.5 inch

>>18625674
man some one needs to make correct porn for educational purposes, sex ed would be a lot more interesting, maybe too interesting

>>18626720
Under 3 iirc

I have a slightly long but not so girthy dick. My gf was a virgin. So the first couple of times we had sex, it hurt her. So what I'm trying to say is yes dick size does matter, but not in the way your mind is set to think it. Big and long does not equal "a lot of pleasure" nor does small and thin equal "less pleasurable." It all depends on the person...

Tbh this should be fucking obvious.

>downward bent dick

it looks flaccid even when hard

what do

>>18627669
cowgirl, probably,
im no expert tho..

>>18625648
Once and for all penis size DOES matter

If all things are equal a woman would choose the man with a larger penis.

If you are small there are things you can do to mitigate a womans disappointment however they are settling and if presented with the choice of a larger penis, will take the larger penis anytime. You never hear of a women fucking a man with a larger penis leave him for a man because he has a smaller penis. Never happens. You hear of women leaving or cheating on men with small penises everyday for men with large penises.

>>18627669
doggy, bitch gona scream how you easily you hit THE spot

>>18627749
there is a such thing as too large. it depends on the woman

>>18625648
Porn kind of propagated the myth that woman love huge dicks, but that's not really true.

Beyond the initial 'wow' factor, a dick too big is just a hassle to please orally and can be uncomfortable during penetration.

Realistically 5 inches can do the job, non-shallow women get attracted to men from their personality first and foremost so as long as you don't have a microdick she doesn't care whether you're pushing 8 inches or not.

My boyfriend's got 18cm and sometimes it hurts when he goes too deep.

>>18625648
A bigger dick is like bigger tits. You don't need them to cum, but it helps and it's a symbol of their virility. There might be some fringe freaks who can't get off without them, but any greater arousal is psychological, not physical.

>>18627780
I love small tits. I don't think any woman likes small dicks.

Tit size is preference dick size is something you make up for.

Can 4.5 inches please a woman? Its a little skinny too.

This thread has inspired me! I'm 100% voluntarily celibate now.

>>18627805
>I don't think any woman likes small dicks.
this summarizes your entire point (assuming you are >>18627749)
pure baseless speculation

>>18627827
You misunderstood my point. Dick size is mostly irrelevant overall (a girl won't give up a guy she likes because he's only 4', same as a guy won't pass up a lovely girl because her tits are saggy), what I meant is that with dicks to a size bigger is mostly better unlike breast size where you will see plenty of guys who actually prefer smaller ones. For example I love small breasts because they make girls look more "refined", idk how to explain it but give me an A cup any day of the week.

>>18627749
>>18627749
https://www.bustle.com/articles/108521-women-pick-the-perfect-penis-size-for-one-night-stands-and-long-term-relationships-and-its-circumference-size

Unless it's shorter than 3 inches or longer than 9, it doesn't matter.

>>18626130
This.

>>18627827
I'm saying if all things other than penis size equal a woman would choose the large penis. Has always been that way and will always be that way and men with average or below average penis size are in denial. Nothing they can do about it but continue to deny or learn to live with what genetics they have.

I've never heard a man say they want a large loose vagina but a tight one and I have never heard a woman say they want a small penis but a large one.

The first time I have sex with a guy the first thing that I notice when they disrobe is big or small/average and I have a rush of excitement or slight or major disappointment.

>>18628068
>the first thing that I notice when they disrobe is big or small/average

Oh thank God! I love girls like you. "Notice the size of my dick, not the size of my rash!" That's what I always say! (They never notice the rash. Lol)

>>18625648
It doesn't so long as it's past the minimum of like 6 inches

>>18628068
What constitutes as big to you? 20cm+? Only like 1% of guys have cocks that large.

Same thing as any physical attribute. Best to be average. Everyone wants to be tall. Being over 6 feet is rather impractical. Banging your head on door frames. Not fitting inside many cars. Girls in general want a bigger ass. Have fun shopping for clothes when nothing fits you anymore. Any person should strive to be well proportioned, not fixate on one attribute and supersize it.

>>18628116
6 inches is an entire inch above the average

>>18628141
I agree a large penis on a guy I would consider having sex with (some things I just can't get past like obesity or bad hygiene) is not common. Once I've committed to having sex with a guy only a few times stopped (not because their penis was small but did want to get it over quick) I do but for an average/small there will be no repeats. The guy with a large penis (unless he is truly insufferable to be around) I go back as long as I have access. Guys like this however have options knowing how rare their large penis is.

To answer your question anon, it doesn't take freakishly large but something I can use two hands end on end and the head protrudes and my index finger cannot touch my thumb. I never understood this measurement stuff. I go by sight and feel.

>>18628167
I know

>>18625648
Don't listen to >>18628116

There's different averages for every geographical position, highest being 7+ in the congo and 3 in Beijing The US average is 5.

Most women generally agree under 4 is small and 6 is big. It will come down to how you use it, and the methods you employ beforehand to get her to the edge.

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>>18625648
Op, ignore these blue pilled delusional faggots

"It's not about the size of the ship but the motion of the ocean".

Lmao you're not even going to use your cock so don't bother. You are a virgin and browse 4chan, that is no coincidence my friend.

>>18628253
Average isn't good.

For example average american woman is 160 pounds, which isn't good

>>18625648
Big dick guy here. Here are the facts - girls usually want the biggest dick that they can comfortably take. This varies greatly; some girls might think that a big dick hurts too much and doesn't feel good, while other girls love big dicks.

To some girls it really doesn't matter. Some girls have orgasms from penetration, some from clitoral stimulation. If you work hard to please your girl (oral, foreplay etc) then maybe your dick size won't matter. All girls have different preferences.

My gf told me something interesting once "I'm glad you have a big dick because I don't have to lie to you and say I like it."

>>18625648
>small dick problems

lmfao

maybe don't reproduce your sad genetics

>>18628286
Big dick guy here, girls are retarded and say whatever you want to here. I disliked my dick in my last relationship because I'd make her cum half a dozen times and then she'd say she was sore and ask me to pull out, which sucks because we'd be like 15 minutes in. I usually last 40-60. She'd also get jaw pain after going down on me for like 5 minutes. I honestly believe girls mostly like big dicks because they think you'll easily find another girl if you leave them. In my experience girls are more attracted to competition than any actual male trait.

>>18628250
that considering 6 inches and above encompasses about 30% of all people i'd say penis size DOES matter

>>18628286
>"I'm glad you have a big dick because I don't have to lie to you and say I like it."
I have said essentially the same thing.

I hate to have to lie to guys but its best for both of us and usually offer an encouraging comment before they ask. They always do.

>>18626130
This.

>>18628353
Thoughts on >>18628313 ? Sorry for the insulting language and misogyny in the post.

>>18628416
Can girls be catty over another guy and otherwise envious, yes, but I don't think competition for another girl a major motivation. That said having a bf with a large penis is something we boast about even if, the anon mentions, a very large penis has its challenges, occasional pain being one. However, a sore jaw is part of giving head no matter the dick size if you do it long enough.

A big penis is, well BIG, when its inside me and it takes little movement for me to know its there and if the guy knows what he is doing when he gets to my cervix he bumps it and gently moves it instead of forcefully pounding. It hurts a little but when it moves and he goes deeper, my god it feeeeeeels good. Most guys can reach to I can only feel the head brush it. Trying to describe the feeling is really hard so a guy will understand. A woman will.

>>18628440
Define big in inches.

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>>18628440
>tfw only 5.7 inches

Unless you got a microdick or dick size is associated with a fetish of theirs, not that much.

In fact, medium dick owners have an advantage most of the time. At 8.5 inches I can't go all the way in before hearing "owch" unless its a high mileage pussy which.. ya know, not that attractive in the first place.

>18628255
you are sad

>>18628454
good god I've said in another post most girls aren't measuring by a ruler only guys do that. If I put my hands end to end and grab his penis and the head is exposed and my fingers cannot touch my thumb. Whatever that is. I also know not many guys have passed this test.

>>18628353

Why do girls lie and say that they like it? If its that big of a deal why would you possibly commit to someone who cant satisfy you? Or are you planning your escape by then.

so I'm 4.5" and I think it does matter

>>18628477
We li because we may actually like the guy and don't want to hurt his feelings. Its like a little white lie. Thinking we are planning our exit soon as we find a guy with a large penis is idiotic. Now at the beginning had I a choice and liked both guys equally except one was large and one average I would chose the guy with the large penis. You just don't run across them that often so you either have sex with what's available regularly or very infrequently.

>>18628477
because sex isn't as big of a deal for females

obviously this means that if you're small you'll have to liev with the fact you'll never satisfy her sexually like somebody with a bigger package, and if she's had that someone with a bigger package already then she'll be thinking about it constantly

having a small dick sucks bro

any fags on here? how important is penis to you?

>>18628491
>because sex isn't as big of a deal for females
Where in hell did you get that idea? No true

>>18628492
So I guess since a female says it is important and you don't want to accept that you default to a gay guy hoping he doesn't feel the same? Incredible

>>18628507
no I'm bi. don't presume what you do not know

>>18628491

Yeah I know how bad it sucks. Im only 3 inches. I think im gonna tell girls how small i am beforehand so i dont disappoint them. I try to tell all my friends how small my dick is, hopefully the word gets out so size queens wont bother me.

>>18628488

Id rather just hear the truth to be honest. Plus we all know if a guy came along who was nearly equal to your bf but with a bigger dick youd leave, basically the same thing. Might as well just keep it real with us and keep an eye for some that fulfills you.

Why do people lie on the internet? Yes, it does matter. Not as much as men worry about it but it does matter. All women here pretend to be angels while in real life they are quite the opposite, I say this as a women before somebody call me an incel betacuck.

It doesn't matter as much as long as you are good with your hands and tongue.

>>18628502
women are much more likely to compromise bad sex in exchange for other things

>>18628597
men have stayed with starfishes since the entirety of human history. It is a poor argument.

>>18628610
your average man is happy to have a girl that even wants to be a starfish more than twice a month

>>18628485
How big is your bf?

>>18628747
don't have one

>>18625648
Not really, you just gotta play with her mind when you are sexing her, knowing what makes her horny will give her orgasms, so she will never leave you

I've heard people say that their penis still grew into their early 20's? How common is that?

>>18628793
Mine was a pitiful 6 inches at 18 and it's still one at 24

Legit considering a sex change tbqh

>>18628809
>complaining about 6 inches
you don't know bad it really is

>>18628477
Because it's not that big of a deal, and it's about a guy's retarded ego being intrinsically linked to his dick.

Is a big cock preferable? Yeah. Is it necessary for good sex? Not even in the least bit. Does having a big cock mean you're always good in bed? Of course not.

But guys are too stupid to get this, they just want to hear, "Your cock is the biggest and best in the world."

>>18625648
It matters.

>>18626684
>16cm
This isn't small. It's average and honestly, good enough. If you were sub 14 you'd need to be worried.

>>18629120
>tfw 10.43
guess I'll just give up

>>18629135
Or limit yourself to small/underage girls, I guess.

For me, it doesn't really matter much. I've had dicks of various sizes, and anything over six inches is just going to hurt and not be fun at all. When I hop on top I don't want to yelp in pain from my cervix immediately getting crunched. Also can't fit the whole dick in my mouth, so blowjobs lose their appeal, and if the dick is too wide and makes my jaw sore, it's not gonna get sucked very often. Also wide dicks just feel like they're gonna tear me, and tears fucking hurt.

tldr big dicks are fun to look at but not fun to ride or put in your mouth

>>18629148
okay, I guess. I won't go fro underage girls, as I don't want jailtime

>>18628816
its pitiful small

>>18629175
see
>>18629135

Ok, answer this once and for all...
Did any one of you, assuming any of you have a 3.5 inch or shorter microdick...
Actually have sex with a woman that WASN'T a hooker?

Genuinely asking for small penis people here, assuming literally any of them had sex WITH A WOMAN WHO ISN'T PAID TO SEX.

Don't dodge the question or give a side-answer. Give it straight and simple. Also, tell me how your relationship went with said woman and whether or not she's staying with you.

>>18629087
>Because it's not that big of a deal, and it's about a guy's retarded ego being intrinsically linked to his dick.

idk I think there is more to it

I think girls who stick with small dick guys probably do it because he has money or some other perk they can take advantage of

>>18629221
would you count prepubescent contact? if so yes if no then no

>>18629221

I'm a virgin, girls always ghost me when I tell them my penis size

>>18629228
>t. bitter virgin

>>18629232
>Prepubescent contact
If that means you did it with a young WOMAN when you were a young man, yes.
Or if you had fun with your babysitter.
I never had that luxury, but my grandpa did.

>>18629246
Your grandfather fucked your baby sitter, or his?

>>18629246
well we were both around the ages of 12 or 11 (it was my step sister)

>>18629245

Why else would they be with him? He has to be giving up something in return for them not being satisfied sexually.

Relationships are usually give and take, its obvious what the guy gets, but I hear girls usually have a relationship guy and a sex guy because its hard to have it all.

>>18629260
Why do you believe having a small dick means the woman can't possibly be sexually satisfied?

>>18629266
Because he doesn't know how to sexually satisfy a woman.

>>18629286

because I have a small dick.

>>18629266
Look at this thread for your answer.

>All of these normalfags complaining about having an average dick
REEEEEEEEEEEE

This must be how disabled people feel when an able-bodied person starts complaining about stupid shit like muh depression

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>>18629298
Fuck, forgot pic

Anyways, normalfags should just fuck off with their meme insecurities.

>>18629298
for me my small dick is a factor in my depression

>>18629288
Your sexual failings go far beyond your dick size.

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>>18629308
I think it's time we just become monks anon.

>>18629327
It's not a super big deal. Having a large cock is merely an asset to please a woman, it's not required to please one.
If you get insecure that a girls ideal boyfriend would have a big dick do you also get insecure if her ideal boyfriend makes more money than you?

>>18629327
Didn't mean for that
To come out
As a poem
But it did.
Truly, it's that again
The dicklet genetic failure.

>>18629327
Maybe. I'm learning to be content with just being alone. Maybe finding what I want out of life

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As a woman, it matters to me. I'm more turned on by larger dicks, but if it's small and you know how to please me that's okay too. I just personally love to feel "too full" and when a dick hits too deep I melt. That's not very common for women to enjoy though, so if you're average you're fine. I personally like 7"-8" though.

>>18629309

but if I had a big dick nothing else would matter.

>>18629248
No, he got fucked by his own babysitter.

>>18629350
not even nice bait

>>18629327
Maybe ill give in and go full gay

>>18629357

Just telling the truth. I have friend who get laid just because of the big dick rumors that surround them. A big dick is the ultimate equalizer, you can be lacking in so many areas but a big dick guarantees consistent sex and satisfying woman with little to no effort.

>>18629254
Excellent! As long as your parents aren't looking of course.

Though do you still keep in contact with her or is she gone?

>>18626684
Yes, girls like cocks. I personally love seeing a thick, hard cock when I'm horny. I ask my bf for dick pics often. Just some women aren't attracted to them the same way some men don't like the look of a cunt.

>>18629360
Rookie dicklet mistake, anon. Gays care even more about dick size and it's fun for them to make fun of you. They are even more cruel than women. Fuck that. It's like some force in the universe decided to combine the worst parts of a woman and the worst parts of a man into a single being and thus rose the gay man.

>>18629366
Not all big dicks are satisfying. Just like a small dick, a guy has to know how to use it and not cum in .5 seconds. How old are you that rumors of big dicks get guys laid?

>>18629366
You're retarded for thinking just having a larger penis will solve all of your problems and fix your life. That's like people who think their life would be perfect if they just had bigger boobs. No it fucking won't, if you had a big dick you'd just find new things to whine about.

>>18629379
Not him but most other problems in life you can fix to a certain extent. Not so with extremely sub-par reproductive organs.

>>18629368
Yes we are still in contact. She lives close by. We have glossed over that part of our lives as if it were a dream. She is a class A roastie now

>>18625648
Just turn gay and get fucked up the butt instead.

>>18629372
Not form my research (posting on lgbt) some don't and height is even considered a kink

>>18629375
>Not all big dicks are satisfying

Much more satisfying than a small dick that's for sure.

>>18629379

I'm not saying it will fix everything, but intimacy and sex is an important part of life, and when you're below average in size its really hard to keep a woman satisfied. Being the insecure bitch that I am I have researched this far more than you have, and you wouldn't believe the cruelty of some of the females who have encountered small dick men. One even said that the guy had no right to act all confident and self assured with such a small penis, said it was misleading. That's why I tell girls beforehand ad I get ditched every time.

Girls only stick around with small dick guys because by the time sex happens the investment was already made. Most of the stories I've read went like this.

"My EX was pretty small, it was okay, but I'm so glad my current bf is hung and hits all the right spots"

The thing is, the only time small dick guys get good reviews is when it was a LTR because the girl was enjoying the entire bf experience, but the sex itself was mediocre. Hookups are always bad news for guys like me though, girls are eithr disgusted or greatly disappointed.

>>18629424
>That's why I tell girls beforehand ad I get ditched every time.
Did you never stop to think that a girl might see you immediately telling her the size of your dick as a major red flag? Are you implying they would actually stick around with a guy who broke the ice with "I have a 10 inch cock"?

You can't be that delusional.

>>18629431
>Did you never stop to think that a girl might see you immediately telling her the size of your dick as a major red flag?

But if I don't then they are just disappointed and feel pressured to have sex with me just because the cloths are already coming off. I know how girls are, they'll conceal their disdain for you just to keep from hurting your feelings, and the fact that they ghosted me proves how they would have felt.

>"I have a 10 inch cock"?

that would have worked in my favor, certainly does for my friends

>>18629431
Honestly, he's right, though. Girls are absolutely miserable with small guys, better to tell them upfront and get it out of the way so they can turn you down before anything really starts.

One of the many reasons why I've never dated.

>>18629444
After you 15? Come on man, any decent woman is going to care about a good guy than a huge cock. They're fun and all, but at the end of the day you really want a guy who knows what he's doing with it. One of my best sexual experiences happen to be with the smallest dicks I had ever been with, so take that into consideration. The guy knew how to make me cum and he was only about 4"

>>18629451
Are you sure there isn't another reason chicks are ghosting him? Personality flaws, bad hygiene?

>>18629459
Those could be factors, sure, but the small dick sealed the deal, no doubt about it.

>>18629468
Because he fucking told her right away. The weirdness of it's a deal breaker. Like an unsolicited dick pic.

>>18629454
>After you 15?

Yes. I'm 25 and the rules are still the same. Same friends with the same stories glorifying their big cock, girls comparing them to their smaller exs and gushing over how much it fills them up.

I don't doubt you've had a good time with a 4 inch dick, but you're not with him now, none of the girls that say good things about small dicks are still with those guys, all they managed to do was not be absolutely terrible in bed, but the big dick guy wins in the long run every time. The small dick guy is an appetizer, bread rolls before the main dish.

>>18629459

No. I have a nice face, love working out, but my personality is easily my strongest attraction, everybody loves me, but without the dick to back it up I'm just the cute funny guy. People who don't know my situation can never believe that I'm still a virgin.

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Lol at the few guys in here who perpetuate this small dick nightmare worldview but at the same time admit they never dated or ever had sex with a girl
You are blowing things completely out of proportion because of your insecurities and your grasp on women isn't realistic. Probably because of your little experience with them.

>>18629498
Yes its a confirmation loop. But why even try. It will just end in more misery for me

>>18626130
Nah actually I wouldn't. I've met quite a few stunning 10/10 douches. I had interest at first yes, but once I realized I would never be anything more than a cum dumpster I lost interest very fast. Their looks could not change the fact they were garbage people.

>8 inch dick
>Peyronie's
God laughs at me every day

>>18625648
Not if you get her dildos, know how to give a noice oral and flay with the fingers.

If you suck at anything else your best shot to keep her happy is to let her put you on a chastity cage and become her sissy fag and let her cuckold you... Sorry.

>>18629347
You wouldn't know an 8 incher if it slapped you in the face, what you call "7-8" is known as girl inches, realistically it's probably 6-7.

>Be 6'3 and handsome
>Get girls pretty easily compared to others
>Have average 6 inch dick.
I'm not sure if I've fallen for the meme or not but having a mediocre dick size is really a big insecurity of mine. I feel that females expect so much of me that I just instantly disappoint. Is there any real way to increase dick size that's not jelq, even just about an extra inch would help me a lot.

>>18629477

I always do it in a very respectful understanding way. I usually say.

"Hey my dick is on the small side, I know some girls aren't into that so I just wanted to let you know"

"How small?"

"....I'm sorry thanks for telling me though blah blah reassurance"

"lol its cool I understand"

Doesn't hurt that bad since I see it coming. No girl would willingly fuck a guy with a small dick, you have to guilt trip them into doing it, you might even impress them, but they will never fuck you if they know, its waste of running up their pussy mileage.

>>18629538
Not true, personally measured the dick myself. I've had a 8" dick slap me in the face. Calm down.

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God please help me this thread sent me back into a depressive spiral. I feel like screaming.

>>18629550
No, you haven't. Don't listen to this roastie anons.

>>18629560
Whatever you want to believe, but with a fucking measuring tape in my hand I've measured 8". And I've been with a guy bigger. They aren't that rare. Though most guys I've been with are 5"-6" I just prefer my boyfriend's 8"

>>18629569
Jesus Christ how have you not been split in half? How has your vagina not been torn? How has your cervix survived? I don't even want to imagine taking a dick that big. I'd cry, and not in a good way either

>>18629580
I enjoy getting "bottomed out" and having forceful sex so the pain is pleasurable. Plus I have to be really turned on for it to be comfortable, I just love sitting down on a guy that feels like a can of air freshener.

>>18629590
A fucking can of air freshener, good god. Your vagina is much more capable than mine, I couldn't even fit a zucchini up in there without accidentally drawing blood from a horribly stinging tear

My second boyfriend had a 3 inch dick. Fat dude, had some disease I can't remember the name of because this was a decade ago.

Anyway, I never really minded it. He did a fantastic job of eating me and did his best otherwise, and his best was pretty good. Plus I always came when riding him because my clit would rub against him.

Guys, you have to do a good job of making a woman feel good about herself physically. I don't mean verbally complimenting her, but feeling on her when you can, focusing on the areas of her body she either likes or dislikes (really depends on the girl). As for being good in bed, that's on you. Don't just stick your dip in and hump. That doesn't do shit for a lot of women.

>>18629595
Lube that shit up. The vagina is a muscle, it can handle it.

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>>18629595
I couldn't even do a tampon applicator.

>>18629605
Well mind you, it "feels" like an air freshener. Plus when I'm not horny it fucking hurts. I don't even like putting in tampons. But 8" really isn't that ridiculous.

>>18629604
Idk dude, some chicks just have smaller and more shallow vaginas

>>18629605
But for you, you might have vaginismus

>>18629604
For me, the pelvic bone just won't let. I can take a sizable cucumber, but not a fist or anything TOO big.

>>18629602
>My second boyfriend had a 3 inch dick. Fat dude, had some disease I can't remember the name of because this was a decade ago.

And you're not seeing him anymore, hmm I wonder why.

>>18629605
That more sounds like you're doing it wrong. I didn't do it right for a long time either. Or >>18629612

Reading this thread makes me really wish I had been born a woman so I didn't have to worry about all this shit. Then I remember that you ladies get periods and childbirth. I think I'll deal with my small dick instead of that shit, tyvm.

>>18629613
Yeah, definitely not a fist, and two fingers is plenty when fingering. I'm just talking about a big dick here, not a fire hydrant.

>>18629618
He cheated on me. That's why.

See? Even dudes with small dicks can pull a girlfriend and someone on the side.

He was a really good lay.

>>18629618
>assuming

>>18629619
>>18629612
It probably is broken pussy syndrome. Plan to an hero for my broken vagina since I know no man will ever stay with a woman he can't fuck. Gonna hold out for a few more years on false hope first, gain the courage.

>>18629642
You can fix vaginismus though...?
But in all fairness, if it is vaginismus then casual sex with people you don't know or trust super well probably isn't gonna go well

>>18629630

lucky you then, now you get to enjoy bigger more satisfying dick

>>18629642
>no man will ever stay with a woman he can't fuck

Look, you're going to get some replies to this post one way or the other and I want to be the first.

Men do not all act/think like they do on the internet.

I really thought they did for a long time. Mostly a hermit for 15+ years (31 now), still somehow have stayed in steady relationships back to back this whole time.

Some men (and women) truly are wonderful. I didn't think it when I was younger and the truly loving, wonderful ones can be hard to find. But they are out there. Don't give up hope.

Same to you robots and fegs out there.

>>18629655
Very true, wish I didn't waste so much time thinking they did.

Side note I'm the girl loving big dicks and I overcame vaginismus too. I didn't wear tampons until I was 21 and lost my virginity around the same time. Lot of personal mental strength to combat fears. Now I'm loving it.

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>>18629649
Not really, its a psychological disorder so the only "cure" is therapy. And if you don't believe in hoodoo magic like therapy then therapy doesn't work.
I've done lots of research on it when I started to look for causes to my issue. You can get those dilator sets but thats not really a cure, you have to do it every single time you want to have sex, ergo you have to start preparing hours beforehand basically just getting the pain out of the way beforehand to loosen yourself out. No matter what I do, sex will never be a pleasant experience. It will always be painful and unenjoyable, and no guy wants to put up with that.
Doesn't help I'm also among the 10% of women who never orgasm no matter what stimulus. My clits fucking broken as well. Might as well be a vegetable.

>>18629642
Find someone who wants you to fuck them instead.

Honestly penetration has never been much of a fantasy of mine. I'm a virgin with no real life experience obviously, but 99% of my fantasies don't involve me me penetrating a woman at all.

>>18629569
>I've been with a guy bigger
You realize 8.5 to 9 are exceedingly rare, and 10 inchers are practically non-existent.

1 in 1000 guys has an 8 inch penis, so you're just really lucky huh? Getting all these horse dicked guys dicking you down, AND you're measuring them? Unless you're a prostitute you're a statistical anomaly.

>>18629655
It's just statistics though that the vast majority of people want to have sex. (or have kids). Sex problems and lack of sex is the number one cause of marital/relationship distress.
My only real option is to go for asexuals, but since I still enjoy giving and other forms of intimate behavior that wouldnt work well for me either.

I'm not talking about the "hurr men only want sex" thing, I'm talking about the average normal dude may love the hell out of me emotionally, but sex is a part of the love package. It may totally tear him up inside being sexually frustrated because he loves me so much, but he can't help the natural biological need to have sex.

>>18629684
Why shoot for a normal, average guy then? I mean, you're clearly not a nornal, average woman. There's no reason for you to limit yourself.

Not to mention there plenty, PLENTY of other sexual, intimate things you can do that just J-J-JAM IT IN

>>18629444
>I know how girls are

For some strange reason, I don't believe you.

>>18629714

I'm definitely lacking in first hand experience but that doesn't bar me from doing research and observing people around men and asking questions. My friends even come to me for dating advice because I just have a knack for reading these kinds of situations. Its not what girls say that matters, its what they do. They say small dicks are okay, while dating a big dick guy. That's the trend that I've noticed. Even the girls earlier admitted to using white lies to keep from hurting a guys feelings. If you dig deep enough you'll find the rare girl who tells it like it is. Its nothing to fuck a small dick guy for a while because girls are always looking to trade up, a small dick is fine until a bigger one shows up, then "its not you, its me"

>>18629713
Because being abnormal isn't exactly a plus. I understand that completely, even I don't want a weirdo for a guy. Hence why I don't expect any normal guy to be interested in me, and why I'm ready to die over it.

So that being said, yes I'd enjoy it very much if sex was only ever hands and mouth, but the normal dude isn't gonna settle for that. There's something sacred and magical about PIV sex, you can't just recreate it. You can tide guys over for a little while with your mouth, I know first hand, but eventually they want the real thing. And I simply cannot provide.

I'm wondering if maybe there's a way for me to be like, married to someone and never let them see my face during sex. If I can just bury my face in the pillow so he can't see my face distort in pain and tears he'll never know? Maybe I can fake it.
I've already found that most guys cannot distinguish the different from a moan from pain and a pleasure moan. Suffered through fingering with a handful of different dudes now trying to hold back the sounds of pain, but when they did slip they just responded by picking up the face and smirking. Which of course actually made it worse for me but I at least then learned I can fake an orgasm when I feel like I'm gonna die if I continue anymore.

>>18629525
>I've met quite a few stunning 10/10 douches
Implying 10/10's are common
Implying they didn't reject you first

>>18629751
Well, fine, objectively they may have been more 7-9 but to me they were 10's.
And they were interested in me as well, as a cum dumpster, an addition to the 40 other girls they were currently banging. I don't like sharing so I walked away.

So many bitter men in this thread.

I've measured mine. 6.8x5.3, which I understand is "good" but I'm a 28 year-old virgin because I'm an aspie and have problems communicating. I'm trying to woe a girl right now that I knew back in the day and it's not going that great. Overweight but not as much as I used to be, and I'm not like a disgusting pile of shit overweight. Just low self-esteem even though I know I have the tool to succeed, I'm just afraid of using it. :(

Feels bad.

>>18629767
>>18629767
Typical roastie or beta, can talk shit but can't (you) someone because they're afraid of confrontation

>>18629774
Don't be sad about your little dick, lots of girls in here are trying to reassure you about it.

>>18629758
So if they were garbage people, but would commit to you then you would've been game? Seems like you are proving the point the other anon made earlier. >>18626130

>>18629794
Actually have a big one, even though you won't believe me anyway ;)

In my experience, a lot of guys lie/ exaggerate about their size. I think because of this people don't actually have an accurate idea of what average size is.
I'm with someone who is below average (I think?) but their technique is amazing and I've never felt like I need more. (I'm also in love with them, but even before I was sex was amazing.)
Penis size matters to some girls. Some girls might think every 6" penis they see is 8-9", so while they claim they want a magnum dong they actually would prefer average/above average.
Basically you have nothing to worry about, unless you actually have a micro penis. Even then it isn't hopeless.
You may run into a girl who demands to have 9"+, but in the dating world you will always run into shallow incompatibilities.
Just own it. 95% of girls won't have an issue with it.

>>18629798
If they'd actually commit (and also not view me as nothing more than a warm hole to fuck) then their personality would have never been bad to begin with. That doesn't prove that anon's point. If he committed to me but still viewed me as nothing more than a walking fleshlight then no, I still wouldn't date him.

If I said I'd date a 10/10 and pretend he's a good guy even if he treats me like a bag of meat, that'd prove that anon's point.

If he had a good personality to begin with then yes, who wouldn't date a 10/10 with a 10/10 personality? I'd date a 5/10 with a 10/10 personality. Hell I'd date a 5/10 with a 6/10 personality.

>>18629810
a 9 inch is extremely rare and a girl who demands it is a retard using girl inches. Most porn stars don't even approach 9 inches.

Femanons be honest would 4.5 inches work for you. Could other women potentially get off from it?

>>18629655
How do you maintain these relationships? Do you have a big dick?

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>>18629841
That's close to the average penis size in many Asian countries.

>>18629865
Congo got me fucked up

>>18629865
>all third world countries in the green section

>>18629814
No, you would date a 10/10 guy with a 1/10 personality if he was able to convince you he was faithful (whether he was or not). You would even convince yourself he was a good guy. You would not, however, date a 1/10 guy with a 10/10 personality as you stated. It's fine because we're all the same as far as that goes. Not sure why so many people hide behind self-righteous posturing though.

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>>18629885
>no you believe like I do

>>18629897
Nah, you admitted it in your post despite your mental gymnastics trying to say you didn't.

Dicks are a lot like breasts. We tend to prefer them bigger but no matter the size they're fun to play with and really hot if attached to somebody we like.

>tfw 13cm

I'd be happy with 15cm desu. The most sexual I got with a girl was oral. We were both drunk. Later I found out I could have fucked her, still get mad/sad about it, because it was one of the only chances I got to have sex. She didn't say anything about my size, but I never asked.

>>18630014
She commented about my bush though kek

>>18628492
some men want smaller men as partners
some men want bigger men as partners
some men want similarly sized men as partners

truth be told almost everyone has taken shits bigger than the largest of human penises

>>18629735
>doing research

Browsing /r9k/ for anecdotes that support your beliefs doesn't count as research.

>>18630033

I've gone to many different websites and seen many different real life examples of big dick privilege. I'm still haunted by the memory of my dad arguing with my mom and telling her that her vagina was too big, which really meant he had a small penis.

>>18627749
Where do you hear that?
On episodes of brazzers?

I don't think I have ever heard a woman say "I left him because his dick is too small."

>>18630179
>tfw your dad has made multiple comments about not having a big dick and now everything makes sense

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>>18630244

Happens all the time, girls usually just cut things off early or cheat then jump ship.

I've got a larger than average dick, 8"x6". I'm not going to say that it is freakishly enormous or anything because if anything it looks kind of skinny and I'd happily swap an inch off the length for another of girth because the length is actually a problem in certain positions and girth has proved to be far more important. I wouldn't want a smaller dick because I'm 6'2" with a stupidly weird frame (I've got a body shaped like a cartoon wrestling villain or something, 34" waist, 18" neck and 50" chest) and it'd just look invisible if it was any smaller.

Anyway. Women have really different sized vaginas. I imagine for all the talk about preference it is just the manifestation of sizes. So you prefer average because large hurt? Great, you have a small to average vagina. You tried huge once and it was wonderful? Like nothing you've ever had before? Great, you have a large to enormous vagina and that is what sex feels like for normal people.

I've only had 2 long term relationships and 5 one night stands. 1 ONS was memorable because we couldn't fit it in, we rubbed and kissed and did oral and the 'sex' was pretty good. She wanted to keep something going, but she had a boyfriend and it got weird. The others were kind of forgettable (alcohol) though focused around me having a pretty big dick, one girl was pretty terrified by it, but just go slow, shallow, fast shallow, slow deep, fast deep. Ex from first LTR was pretty normal and generally sex hurt unless we prepared pretty heavily for it, there is this thing called 'vaginal tenting' which needs to occur before you go slamming it deep. My current gf has a massive vagina and there might as well be nothing going on for either of us. Like I can stick my whole foot up there. With her we sometimes use a vaginal tightening cream, it basically makes everything puff up and swell because it must irritate the shit out of the area, but the effect is she actually offers resistance and reliably has multiple orgasms from penetration.

>>18630405
Bro you have a HUGE dick. 8 x 6 is pushing the upward limit of penis size. Being a 9 is insanely big and a 7 inch girth is the same. Out of a room of a 1000 guys you'd have the biggest dong statistically. You're in the 99th percentile for both.

>>18625764
I know this post is old, but no one said anything and number one and two are such bullshit reasons you're just using to pretend your egotistical life decisions are somehow inhumane.
>You're exposing someone to the cruelty and terror of returning to the void (dying)
How about refusing to even give them a chance to decide whether the trip was worth it? Do you go up to your mom and tell her "Oh, I wish you'd never conceived me so I wouldn't have to suffer the eventual embrace of death"? If you can deal with, so can your child.
>The world (economy, environment) may not be in a livable state by the time they grow up or get a little older.
Are you retarded? You're sitting in a dry and warm shelter immune to the elements, with electricity and clean water both hot and cold on demand. If you don't want to starve, you can pick up already prepared cuts of meat and fresh vegetables a couple minutes away from your home. Even some poor shmuck who can barely afford rent has luxuries kings from thousands of years could only dream of and you're worried your kid is going to have money trouble?
How about having a child when your money was so worthless it was cheaper to burn it than to buy firewood? How about having a child when disease was so aggressive you'd be lucky to celebrate your first birthday? How about having a child when your livelihood depended on a field full of crops that could turn empty if nature didn't play along?
How about having a child when you had to spend half of the day hunting so you might have something to eat when you come back to your cave?
All of these are excellent reasons compared to your hollow whining, but if everyone was as much of a selfish asshole as you you wouldn't be sitting here fantasizing about how you won't have to dedicate your life to anything bigger than you.

>>18630179
Why you gotta blame your dad? Maybe your mom is just a whore with a cavernous, loose pussy.

9"x7" would be ridiculously big because for every one of those they'd be thousands of 9"x6.5" and then 9"x6" and 8"x6.5" and so on and so on down into fractions of an inch. There has to be a cut off where guys aren't using them so statistically women encounter average to above average dick sizes because those guys are getting laid where as those significantly below average aren't even having sex so women must think they start off at 6" or something. The girth thing is where I wish I had even another half an inch in all honesty, like a soda can is over 8" around, something like that would feel genuinely ridiculous in the hand where as 6" just feels normal I guess? Also the length, my hands wrist to fingertip are close to 9" so we are talking a cock that proportionally isn't even as long as my hand.

>>18630437

>have kids
>hell is real
>they suffer for eternity because "clean water" and "MUH GENES"

breeders are so selfish

>>18630444

when we got internet the first thing he wanted was a penis pump

her current fwb is this huge dick jaimacan dude. I know hes hung because he got exposed as a bi top

>>18630446
It's because you're big. I'm a bigger dude in terms of height and hands and my dick isn't crazy looking on me either but I know it's big. Every girl that's every touched it has said it's big. in terms of girth 6 inches is plenty girthy enough, you're girthier than 99 percent of humanity. 7 inch girth is just too much first of all and it'd be a fucking chore to fit that thing in anywhere.

Do you measure bone pressed btw?

>>18630280
>tfw dad gets drunk and calls you out back to weep about his small penis and apologize for passing it down
>tfw sober mom breaks and says it's not even as long as her middle finger and her pinky wraps around it
>tfw wielding a 6" x 5.8" meat wand that would make dad jelly
>tfw brother got the dicklet

>>18630455
No pretty much just the base of my dick to the tip. I could probably get another half an inch or so as a result, but things are also dependent on how hard I can get it, but I've not measured for quite a while because there isn't really any further need to do so, 8" is fine as an aggregate. I know my wrist to fingertip length as I use it as a general measure in my daily life so it isn't hard to gauge my dick against it whenever I want to as well.

I still stand by what I said in regards to female preference more being a product of vagina size. Guys seem to hate upon them for not taking their feels into consideration when discussing their own sexual preferences, but a lady with a larger vagina is going to prefer a larger dick, it isn't malicious or designed to hurt or exclude you, they can't control the size of their vagina, it is just they want a dick which matches up and produces the feeling of having sex.

Like if given a preference I'd prefer all partners to have vaginas just about large enough to enter. It isn't a complete deal breaker though and I'd imagine this is how women feel about dicks.

>>18625648
my ex who has seen some mileage said she wouldn't choose big dick just because big. actually she was pretty disappointed with guys with huge dicks because they feel like it's enough just to have a huge dick to be good in bed. it is not. she has chosen me (average size) over a guy with a huge one but with no creativity in bed.

>>18625662
Based

>>18630437
Happened to check back anyway.

>How about refusing to even give them a chance to decide whether the trip was worth it? Do you go up to your mom and tell her "Oh, I wish you'd never conceived me so I wouldn't have to suffer the eventual embrace of death"? If you can deal with, so can your child.
I'm pretty bitter at my parents for conceiving me. If I had the choice, I would definitely choose not to have existed in the first place. I'll never tell them that because they've been such good parents and I love them, though.

>you're worried your kid is going to have money trouble?
I like how you conveniently ignore the environmental argument. Regardless, just because things are fine now doesn't mean that automation won't potentially cause wages to fall low enough that you can't afford food or shelter anymore. I never discussed the economic aspect as a certainty, more as a hard to foresee risk.

>selfish asshole
Not having kids is selfish? How?

>>18629810
young boy pretending to be a wise old girl

>>18625648
Thing is, they have to see your dick first
By that point you'll have a chance to wriggle it in

>>18630752
Exactly, who the fuck cares so long as you get some pussy. Just don't expect a repeat.

>>18630872

Not everybody can pick up a new girl every week. Its hard enough getting one.

>>18625648

It isn't the size it's how you use it, making a girl cum is easy, making a girl orgasm is a different story and you probably won't be able to pull that off until you're more experienced.