How do you get a guy to like you in a romantic way? I'm

>>18619794
implying you'll listen to my advice

Look after your appearance, don't be a shit person and don't put out too soon.

Learn how to cook.

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This isn't something you force. It happens naturally.

Men today don't necessarily have romantic feelings because of how warped their minds are through porn and male power fantasy video games, so you're gonna have to get really lucky that you find that one guy that not only loves you for who you are, but you also love him as well.

Try to interact with them in a balanced way. Not too clingy, not too distant. Show that you can support them emotionally, and yes, physically. Also, don't be two faced.

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>>18619847
Bullshit. Women don't want guys to like them in a romantic way, it'll only make them despise their men.

The only way to get a guy to like you is to take dick like an amazonian princess and leave them alone afterward.

I can't tell you how many times I've turned women off by approaching them romantically. Women barf at romantic gestures and emotional profession, they just don't give a fuck. I don't know why

>>18619866
OP here, I'm a girl and I want a guy to like me romantically.

>>18619794
Most guys are happy to have someone that appreciates their opinion and feelings
Of course they will fall for someone more attractive but everyone wants to be love for who they are
Complement him in things he's not used to be complemented
Make him feel special
Or i don't know

>>18619876
You most likely want that because you've never had it. Trrrrust me, you don't want it as much as you think you do

>>18619866

All women want is to destroy men. They only love their fathers. It's no fun for them to destroy nice guys because it's easy. That's why they like dicks. They provide a challenge. Women will never be able to love men the way men love women. Remember this.

>>18619794

pretend you're better than him and he'll wonder what he's missing

it's what all successful women do

>>18619885
Is that destructive adoration even love? Where's the fun in that?

>>18619866
Thanks for making my point, but to clarify, this really goes both ways.
women aren't immune to porn or oversexualized media people (such as female musicians and celebrities) either. Our culture is being dominated by sex now and people are becoming exposed to sex at younger ages everyday, thus creating this lack of romantic affection in both sexes.

You should envy OP, you will probably end up dying alone, never truly knowing what it feels like to be loved by a woman.

>>18619892

alimony

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>>18619876
This whole board is full of shit.

Literally just be yourself and you will attract someone naturally. It takes time but it's not worth it to do any other way.

Hating on this is a meme and I don't know why. I was a fucking autist when I first tried talking to my now wife. I didn't hide anything and something eventually just clicked. Just don't rush things, and learn to love yourself first. It's when people are just trying to fill a hole that they have trouble finding actual connections.

>>18619894
You don't think I've already accepted this?
I'm done using women to validate my existence, and as painful as it is, I have to accept my life for myself.

We all die alone anyways, why do you think OP wants to find love? It's obvious.

>>18619904
>Literally just be yourself and you will attract someone naturally

Yeah this strategy hasn't been working for me, literally almost everyone my age has had their first love affair except for me

>>18619904
But anon, what if you're a piece of shit? Could you find love then?

>>18619904
This.

>>18619905
Your bleak outlook on life doesn't really make you a very good person to take advice from, so I don't really know why you're giving advice, or why you think your advice is even "advice".

>>18619904
>Literally just be yourself and you will attract someone naturally. It takes time but it's not worth it to do any other way.

never worked, women tend to idolize men in a certain way and if they brake that mold they look for someone else.

>>18619917
>never worked
L
>women tend to idolize men in a certain way
Double L

>>18619917
How is life NOT bleak though?

>>18619918

for instance if you ever notice a girl with her boyfriend glaring at some other guy, her boyfriend will do everything within his power to assert control over the situation because all the men are led to believe the alpha wins the affection.

has nothing to do with who anyone "really is"

>>18619925
Personally, I think the reason why people are becoming more and more like you everyday is because of the rejection of faith.

We are becoming a godless country like Japan each passing day, soon enough god will curse us like he did them with their fertility problems.

People want to escape gods punishment by not believing in him, but it's not his punishment you should fear, it's your fallen human nature. gods teachings help us be better people, we are in essence a destructive race that must be put in check through prayer and repentance.
You wouldn't break laws made by man, why not laws made by god?

>>18619946

this just sounds like evangelical babble and has no real bearing on the dating world as far as I can tell

>>18619953
Christian and Catholic faith alike are completely and wholly based on Love.

>>18619960

How do you figure?

>>18619946
Which god?

Also, what should I repent for? Being born unintentionally? I haven't killed, raped, or robbed anyone. I'm just sad that girls don't lust after me, which speaks to my worthlessness as a human being.

How is accepted a god going to turn me into something of value or make me objectively attractive to people?

>>18619964

he's gonna say something along the lines of valuing yourself makes others value you, but the reality tends to be people who are infatuated with themselves/narcissists tend to have others gravitate towards them instead and thoughtful people get confused and upset.

but i'm in a similar situation as you and am plagued with irony and pessimism.

>>18619794
Tell him that you're interested in romantic love AND try to prove it. We guys today are scared of being romantic, at most we start trying after the relationship is long. Acting romantic from the start puts you on the risk of looking like a "nice guy", a sexist or simply desperate and trying too hard. We just avoid it.

>>18619974
How can you have a relationship and not have it be romantic? Do you mean try to turn a friend with benefits into a romantic partner?

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>>18619971
Clearly the answer isn't becoming a narcissist tho, that's just irrational.

I'm giving up on love. women, sex, and all this fuzzy warm bullshit. There's no point in it but pain and longing. It's like getting a puppy in a way... you're going to bury it eventually.

>>18619980
>Clearly the answer isn't becoming a narcissist tho, that's just irrational.

Here's the trick, they don't call it narcissism, they call it self confidence.

>>18619980
Why live life if it's just going to end anyway then?

Everything ends, but that doesn't make good experiences worthless

>>18619978
Most relationships today are de facto friends with benefits with the difference that you bring the friend to your parents house and all that. It's more grounded on familiarity than in passion or romanticism.

Romantic love is fragile and short-lived. It can be deeply passionate and just as painful. I don't think it's hard for men to love you, it's just hard for you to find a man that you'll love back.

>>18619985
>Why live life if it's just going to end anyway then?

Who told you anything ends?

>>18619961
Because without love, there is no meaning to anything we do.
If Jesus didn't love humans, he wouldn't have died for our sins or created the miracles that he made for us.
And without love for god and jesus, no one would honor their commandments.

Love drives us, it leads us on the right path to our final destination.

>>18619964
Lust is a sin my friend, it's the antithesis of love, the fact that you put "girls" (plural) means you have no interest in love and only think of women as objects, you essentially have no respect for your fellow man, and you're committing a mortal sin, and to say "which god", you are breaking one of gods commandments "thou shalt not have other gods before me", there is a reason why countries who worship false gods are cursed with war, and underdevelopment.
The only person who you should ever care about judging you, is god, not even yourself, so don't think about being "worthless" in the eyes of your fellow man, follow gods teachings and you will feel worthy.

I'm not a priest, nor do I have a very deep knowledge of the bible, all I know is that life is very simple, love your fellow man, and do not stray from the path of good.

>>18619987

So anyone with ideals of romance are a major turn off so to speak? That doesn't sound right, people can't shut up about their millenial marriages and relationships all over social media these days

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>>18619997
>Because without love, there is no meaning to anything we do.

The Christians don't own/trademark love so I don't know why religion has any bearing on this bro? Elaborate if you will

>Lust is a sin my friend, it's the antithesis of love, the fact that you put "girls" (plural) means you have no interest in love and only think of women as objects

You're gonna have to rewrite this one, I can't understand what you're saying

>m not a priest, nor do I have a very deep knowledge of the bible, all I know is that life is very simple, love your fellow man, and do not stray from the path of good.

I don't understand what this has to do with dating

>>18619892
nigger youre kinding right? the entire female existence is just pathetic conglameration of insecurities, overconfidence, blind confidence, hopelessness, power trips, passive aggressiveness, etc

they learn really fucking early they dont have what it takes to physically dominate men and it terrifies the fucking shit out of them. but at the same time society pampers and spoils the fuck out of them.

>>18619997
Don't bring politics into this. Your God sits idly while families are bombed, and children and their parents are torn apart by famine, hot lead, and ideals not too foreign from your own.

I do not view women as objects, I am helplessly attracted to them and I lack the insight as to what makes me unattractive to those I fancy. I'm convinced it's my outlook or my personality, I view myself as worthless. No person or deity placed that upon me, only myself. I've contributed nothing to our species, it's no secret that humanity is in a state of disarray.

Is it wrong that we, like OP, seek solace wherever we could find it?

>>18619991
That's not true, I have loved men but never had a man love me. It's always been unrequited.

>>18619997
fuck off loser. theres no afterlife and theres no objective right or wrong anything. deal with it pussy

>>18620019
So what does that say about women,
That they're just as monstrous as we are? Just more covertly?

>>18619794

...? Romance is sex. I don't think you know what you want. Are you simply looking for intimacy? You won't find that without sex. Men aren't allowed to be intimate. They can only express it through sex, that's all society will accept. You want to convince a man it's safe to be intimate with you? You'll have to accept his sexual side.

You can't reject sexuality and demand intimacey. It doesn't work like that.

What hell is your definition of Romance?

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>>18620022
I've loved women but I've never had a woman love me, so I'm convinced that it just doesn't exist.

>>18619981
Clever clever

>>18620021
There's a difference between actually being happy and settling for things, or to use your term (finding solace)

Love isn't like a video game, mindless sex with a stranger, or eating a large plate of food. These are momentary pleasures, and I can tell you that momentary pleasures tend not to be healthy, they can turn you into a sloth, a deviant, or rot your brain.

Love isn't a momentary pleasure, there's a reason why christian marriages use the phrase "till death do us part". Unfortunately people mistake lust for love all the time.

>>18620050
What is love to you, anon?

>>18620035
no im saying they have to play defensively and this has a tendecy to create a lot of assmad and in turn creates a "strike while you have the chance" or "hit them before they hit you" mentality

>>18619876
>>18619847
Women say they want romance and faithfulness yet they always manage to date the complete opposite. What they really want is a man with alpha male characteristics and good looks, but that category of guy is the complete opposite of romantic. He just wants to fuck and move on to the next one, then women wonder why "all men are bad".

>>18620065
stupid meme is stupid

>>18620050
youre an idiot. literally every emotion is release of nuerotoxins. the issue is triggering the release of the nuerotoxins that you enjoy and figuring out how to get keep them going consistantly. everything past all that is highly subjective and influenced by nature/nuture

>>18619794
it depends on who you want to love, people are very different

>>18620060
As I said before, Love drives us, it helps us follow the right path, you don't necessarily have to love a woman, hell, some saints were hermits.

There was a hermit, named St. Vitalis of Gaza, he spent most of his days buying prostitutes, not for sex, but to help them realize that they are not objects for mens sexual pleasures, and all he asked of them was to be good wives and mothers.

One day, he was killed by a man who respected him but mistakenly thought he was ordering the prostitutes for sex, he was buried surrounded by the many prostitutes he turned into good wives and mothers.

Vitalis of Gaza clearly loved women, not for romance or his own pleasures, but I think he loved them because a good wife and mother makes a huge difference in the world, afterall.

>>18620067
It's the truth though. Women are inherently attracted to a guy who doesn't give a fuck and treats everyone around them like shit. It's a primitive instinct of theirs, they're attracted to power.

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>>18619794
>how to make a guy fall for you
You don't "make" someone fall for you. If you want to date him then ask him out. Assuming you're already dating and are asking how to keep him; most guys want the following out of a girlfriend:
>Be nice and pleasant to be around. Don't use your man as a pincushion to unload all your stupid problems on.
>Look good. Put some effort into your appearance.
>Be your own person. Have your own life and opinions. Don't derive all of your life's meaning from your boyfriend/husband.
>Suck dick regularly

>>18620100
Judge everyone based on their own actions and not based on the actions of others

>>18620092
gay story is gay. if your story teaches anything its to NOT try to reform whores because you could get killed for it.

also,
>that story being believable in the first place

>>18620102
This.
This.
This.

>>18620105

A man using money to 'save' women and thus is praised as a saint?

What's hard to believe. Gynocentrisim.

>>18620104
Women are a hivemind. Once you understand one of them you basically understand them all. Men have varied tastes and preferences (short/tall, fat/skinny, white/asian) but women all want the same thing (tall white male who's a dickhead).

>>18620105
Death is not a bad thing if you have lived your life in the service of god.

The only people who fear death, are people who live with regret.

>>18620121

How'd he get the money to 'save' all those women?

Why couldn't they become wives/mothers on their own?

>>18620092
Look around your world dude, if someone attempted the same act on any instagram model/public figure's account he'd be ridiculed.

How do you think you got here btw? Your mother loved dick, and she more than likely coiled with pleasure when your father blew his load inside of her.

This is nature, not a moral quandary.

>>18620112
>What's hard to believe.
ill go with the fact that youre presenting the story as literally an add stating its a one step plan 100% success guarunteed. not to mention you know, that arent any other well known occurances of this happening. its almost like some whores just like being whores and different people have different opinions and change their attitudes on things

>>18620133
happening anywhere else***

>>18620131
the legend states he was a simple laborer.

>>18620132
Like I am being ridiculed by you and others now?

as I said before, the only person you should ever care about judging you is god, humans are a fallen race that must seek salvation through prayer and repentance.

And since we are a fallen race, we can easily fall into debased desires, such as a unholy out of wedlock birth, but I do not judge my mother, I honor her for giving me life and the ability to be able to witness the beauty of life.

>>18620155

Again, why couldn't the women, prostituets, simple labor if anything is, do this for themselves?

How could a simple laborer man, do what sooo many women, could not?

>>18620155
You're on 4chan, the festering melting pot of all things foul on the internet and some places in the world. Ridicule is also natural here.

Enlighten me, how are we a fallen race? It's no secret we're living far below our true potential as an intelligent species. Are there any examples of races of higher consciousness I could model my life after?

That's what I thought.

>>18620162
Sorry, I missed your second question because I was replying to another post and yours simultaneously.

Sometimes people need to be given the right advice, kinda ironic that I'm telling you this here huh?

A woman who has lived her whole life being dishonored by men, will end up believing she is no better than an object to men, it's simple.
But once she has known what it feels to be respected as a woman by men, she can regain a will to become a stronger woman.

I'm remembering another legend, but I forget the names of the people in them.
There was a woman who became a maid of a high standing family to help her family get out of poverty, unfortunately, the headmaster of the family was a pervert who raped her repeatedly.
One day the matriarch of the family witnessed it, and instead of being angry at the headmaster who raped the poor maid, she called the maid a harlot who tried to steal her husband, the maid ran away and eventually became a prostitute because she felt was no longer "clean", unworthy of a mans love or affection.
But one day, a lord saw her, and fell in love with her, he treated her with respect and kindness despite her prejudice towards men, especially lords, and eventually learned to love him as well, she withheld her past as a maid for a long time because of the shame it brought her, but one day she was able to tell him what had happened to her, because the man loved her so much, he didn't care about that, and told her he would show her the world.
Unfortunately though, the girl died in a bandit raid before the lord and her could run away together.

Basically, no woman wants to be objectified by men, they can desire sex like a man, but they don't want to be treated lesser than them. some women just don't know what it's like to have a man that respects them, and maybe sometimes the concept of them being respected by men is so far fetched that they need to be reminded that they deserve love and affection like everyone else.

>>18620171
>Enlighten me, how are we a fallen race
Because we ate from the apple, and kain murdered his brother.

We are essentially the most evil race on our planet. We have urges to hurt others, betray, destroy, steal, and hate. God created rules so that these urges would be suppressed, but because we are a fallen race, these rules are either ignored, or misconstrued for selfish reasons, such as a person wanting to kill another man because he may worship a false god.

>>18620263
fake news

>>18619866
Sounds like you're ugly or socially inept.

>>18619794
Enjoy your freedom.

you dont
you are a woman, you select, but you dont hunt, let the hunting to the man, select from those whose are after you

do not behave like men because then you will be disappointed when your "man" acts like a woman

>>18619904
I have been myself for whole my life. Clearly it is not working.

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>>18619866
>Women barf at romantic gestures and emotional profession

This literally only happens if you're an average/ugly guy.

A girl at my work has a Chad boyfriend who sometimes sends her flowers at work. All my female co-workers (who know what he looks like) go absolutely crazy over it.

It sucks, but it's true. ANY approach from an attractive male will be seen favourably by women.

>>18621139
This point was already proven by the fake hot male tinder experiment