I am in therapy for a depression, suicidal plans etc. Psychologist

>>18619220
That's such a beautiful dog

>>18619220
I'm like that too, I guess you have to force yourself until it sticks, maybe?

>>18619220
That's a nice looking dog?

What kind is it?

>>18619635 Here

Wanted to add. I used to be like you, I later found out I was so depressed because I wasn't socializing with other people. I started to become depressed and developed a cynical view about how everyone around me sucks, which made me isolate myself and created spiral.

>>18619220
Is your dog a dutch shepherd?

>>18619220
good dog, a solid 9, but if a psychologist said he has no advise why did you think unqualified 4chan dwellers could?

Yes, it's a Dutch Shepherd. But not from a working line. So he needs a lot of exercise which is good for us both

>>18619631
It just feels so counterproductive to do somerhing that is not "you" in this state.

>>18620679
(OP) I meant he is from a working line. Not from a show line.

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Does it help? Therapy is nothing but a meme. No therapist would tell you that people are shit.

>>18620081
(Op)
Sometimes people with real life experience are more helpful than "experts".

If you can do it go for it, personally i get very depressed when i don´t get enough contact with other human beings. And i´ve been abused my whole life, so i really have a reason to hate people.

>>18620694
(OP)
But that's the point. I tried and it didn't help at all. It just made things worse but the therapist says I have to continue through. Don't know if I should listen or not.

>>18619220
It's pretty heavy cognitive dissonance to say in the same post that you are suicidal and that you like the way your life is.

Learn to like how your life is for real or force yourself to get to know people for the sake of your health
Maybe see if you can find some people around your dog or something

Medfag/biochemist here.

I was a hikkimori for half a decade in adulthood after spending my childhood in forced isolation. I don't get the impulse to be around people, and for years it just didn't occur to me to make friends. I never feel lonely. Cats have been my best friends my whole life, and I feel genuinely fulfilled by their company.

I'm exhausted by speaking as well, a lot of people are. Something you could try is making a tinder profile and in the bio say 'Looking for friends on here, nothing sexual, just someone i can sit in a room with, eat food with, and just hang out. Not big on small talk.' or something to that effect.

Social contact is a biological need, for reasons I won't explain here. If you're interested in the science, read up on it, it's fascinating stuff. The bottom line is that people who don't socialize die sooner, are likely to be living in anguish and pain, and respond poorly to emotions.

When I made friends after 5 years of speaking to cashiers only, I got an immense sense of warmth, support, love. I've become much happier, more emotionally stable, and I've actually started to miss people if I don't go out for a few days. It's easy to tell yourself that all people suck and they're all dumb, none of them will get you, they're just normies, etc. but the reality is that we all need friends. If you want to be psychologically healthy you're going to have to get a social network.

>>18619220
"I have a potentially fatal disease. Doctor says he can't help me unless I take the medicine he prescribes. But I don't like the taste of the medicine, so I don't want to."

And in what way does that little story differ from yours?

>>18620956

cont.

I told myself I didn't need people for years, and I honestly believed it. It will be hard getting re-socialized at first, which is why you're trying to avoid it- it's painful. You struggle with the cues and just making conversation, it's a huge effort, and you'd rather just be inside with your doggo- I know. What I don't think you get is that socializing is not a meme, it is an actual biological need, and not getting it leads to huge psychological issues, whether you see the connection between the two or not.

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>>18620943
>>18620694
These anons are correct. If you want to be mentally normal you're going to have to go outside. If you refuse to do that, you'll continue to be suicidal.

>>18620943

I am bad at writing. It's more like I hate my life even more when I force myself to be with others.

>>18620957

(OP) I see your point but the medicine doesn't make your condition worse. I have tried "the medicine" for some time and as far as i'm aware it worsened my condition.

>>18620967
So then just kill yourself, you hate your current life and any chance you just hate more

>>18620967
>>18620970
This guy is right.

You do realize it's not always going to be hard if you practice, right? The first few weeks of going out and meeting people, speaking to strangers, is going to be hard. But it's not supposed to be. We are social creatures. Your neurons are a little dusty right now, but as soon as you get out there and practice a bit it'll become second nature. You may even discover that you're an extrovert. The bottom line is, if you don't want to do it, you might as well just kill yourself.

>>18620970

(OP)
I would love nothing more than end my life but sadly I can't leave my mother and dog behind.

>>18620975
Wow hahaha that is quite the advice here.

You're the biggest faggot I've had the misfortune to come across.

People are not helpless against the little chemical processes in our brains and there are innumerable examples of this out there.

OP, you do you. It takes a strong person to do whatever you want without giving a fuck. You can socialize, or you can not socialize and go do something else. If you're losing to depression then you will need to be strong enough to do something about it, but that something doesnt have to be social.

>>18620980
Then wait till they die and kill yourself afterwards.

>>18620986

That is the plan but it will take some years. Meanwhile i'm trying to make the wait slightly less hard but I don't know how.

>>18620967
>It's more like I hate my life even more when I force myself to be with others.

That's because you don't know how to socialize. You haven't done it it so long it's just a painful awkward experience. Keep at it no matter what, try to learn from each experience and it will get better.

>>18620981
I don't think you understand english well enough to participate in this thread.

>>18621018
You're the one that should be thinking of suicide methods, not op. Stop wasting my oxygen.

>>18621067
If typing makes you breath heavily you might wanna go do some exercise fatty.

>>18620990
Sounds like you don't actually want to fix your situation, like 90% of the people who come here.

>>18621101
(OP) What makes you think that?

OP you say that you "like your life this way" and you say that you contemplate killing yourself. These two absolutely do not add up. In theory it is possible that you "just don't like" other people but the chance is about as big as just not liking any music or the sun shining. You are hard wired to feel good when people smile at you, acknowledge your existence, touch you. Humans are relational beings with very few exceptions. The fact that you are on here asking people for advice and feeling depressed makes me think that you are not an exception.

The fact that talking exhausts you means nothing in itself. Anything that you have not done for years will exhaust you. If you are not used to social interaction you will become hypersensitive - doubt every thing you say (and obviously cannot give answers on autopilot), pick up on countless little signs from the other person, have to put a lot of conscious effort into keeping it going. This changes when you grow used to it, you numb yourself to the point where you pick up on less draining information and knowing what to say and when comes much more naturally to you. Compare it to talking in your second or third language vs talking in your native language.

That's one cool looking dog

(OP) Ok. Thanks for the advice everyone. I will try to reach an old friend or something and explain why I ignored them for years.

>>18621214
Should make new friends, don't put your autism into old friends.

Are there any dog parks where you live?
If there are, you should go and talk to other dog owners.
You'll have something in common with them for sure.

I'm suffering from depression and have 0 friends too and that's what I'd do if I had a dog (I wish I could have one, but I can't).