It's normal to resent women for always being put on the

>>18613539

Is it normal to resent women because you're a bitter loser and no one wants to fuck you? The short answer is no.

No, but you didn't come here to hear that, did you?

y-you know women HATE being put on a pedestal and that its the men doing that right?

No, it's a really toxic attitude, and it will hold you back until you change it

>come into this thread expecting an echo chamber of misogyny
>decent replies

A pleasant surprise. Thanks /adv//.

>>18613819

I don't use 4chan except to pop in here every few months. There's a lot of people with honest problems who don't know where to turn, and they shouldn't have to rely on the advice of bitter people.

(It's the same problem with relationship forums -- people in healthy relationships don't go onto them)

>>18613539
I do, and my friends think it's weird of me. It's my honest belief, so I don't really care

>>18613539
No, women are just shit people in general.

>>18613930

um maybe you should? i mean, if you want to get laid and shit. that kind of attitude will poison you and all your relationships

>>18613943
Should I?

>>18613539
Yes.

>>18613539
Women are parasites by nature, they get pampered by society, and their expectations are lower for basically everything, so yes, you're completely reasonable in resenting them

>>18613539
It's normal to be upset about it, but not not cry about it like a bitch. You're a man, so stop whining. Despite their options, a lot of women don't make the best decisions when choosing a partner, so even useless pieces of shit can still trick a 7 in a year-long relationship as long as they actually go out there and are confident enough.

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>>18614001

Hey look its the NEET squad

>>18613819
/adv/ really does try hard to not be another /r9k/.

>>18614117
And instead of being an echo chamber of misogyny it's an echo chamber of "muh just world" fallacies and sheltered people who think everything is fair.
In a way, you people are more disgusting than /r9k/ and /pol/ combined.

>>18614128
/adv/ tells the truth, not what you want to hear. Now go back to /r9k/ and whine about your just world memes and how it's everyone else's fault you're a loser.

>>18614134
>/adv/ tells the truth
Nope, just like /r9k/ it's an echo chamber. /r9k/ blames its problems on everyone else but themselves, and you do the exact opposite, telling others that they're bad people because they're lonely.

>>18614144
Act like an asshole, expect to be treated like an asshole. Simple. Nobody has said what you implied, you're just making shit up.

>>18614174
>you're just making shit up
Says the guy who assumes I'm an asshole simply because I'm lonely.
I go out of my way to be decent to people without expecting anything from them, but of course you'll just say I'm lying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy
Surprisingly, women don't like men who hate women.

>>18613539
>tfw gf says one of the best things about me is I've never put her on a pedestal once

Stop resenting women because you don't have the guts to ask them out. The only people who put them on pedestals are men, not women doing it to themselves.

>>18614186
I find it hard to believe someone who goes out of his way to be nice to everyone also rages about how women are dumb cunts for not liking him.

>>18614206
Where did I rage about women anywhere in my posts?
Looks like you're still strawmanning.

>>18614039
There's a thread going on right now about a girl who was head over heels for an asshole, and there will be another one as soon as that one's gone. Stop acting like all criticism towards women has to be baseless accusations that come from bitter virgins.

>>18614224
Yes, one single instance proves that all women love abusive assholes and hate guys who are nice to them.

>>18614226
>one single instance
Are you delusional? I said that shit is going on all the time, and I never said all women do that. If you are so insistent on shouting down some idiot literally insisting all women are bitches you can find one easily on this board, you don't have to project.

>>18613539
On 4chan, yes, totally normal. To everyone else bar the 'manosophere' and certain parts of reddit, it's toxic and stupid.

Pros and cons.

You're just too focused on what you don't have to fully realize and take advantage of what you do. Just embrace who you are, and the rest will sort itself out.

>>18613539
Think of it this way: What advantage to you get out of resenting women for that?
If some aspect of yourself isn't beneficial to your and other's wellbeing, toss it. That's how you improve.

>>18614286
>toss out every aspect of yourself
T-thanks

>>18614557
If every aspect of yourself is destructive you have bigger problems than girls getting easy sex.

My troll thread exposed adv as being a cancerous reddit clone

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ITT: A bunch of virgin's lump all 4 billion woman on the planet together.
Girls are people not assembly line made clones.. Some can fuck whomever they please sure, (just like some men) but others can only get degenerates. (just like some men) If you can't find anyone to be with maybe the issues lie with you not every woman on the planet..

>>18614598
We didn't need your thread for that. You just need to take a look at the catalog to see that /adv/ is utter shit.

>>18614567
No shit sherlock

>>18614607
>If you can't find anyone to be with
And once again /adv/ demonstrates it's a circlejerk of hypocrites.
It's relatively easy to get a 2/10 girl with BPD and daddy issues, but don't expect anyone to actually lower their standards that far.

>>18614617
But you expect the woman to lower herself to your plethora of issues?

My point is that if your an asshole and can't understand why 'girls just don't like me' then you need a serious look in the mirror not to pass blame on every woman on the planet. No one is obligated to like you, this isn't China.

>>18614646
I don't expect shit, it goes both ways. Just stop telling everyone to "just lower your standards bro" because you know it's stupid.

>>18614611
Yet you make a thread about that instead of doing something constructive.

>>18614675
>implying I'm op

>>18614001
>You're a man, so stop whining
This is probably the most stupid thing you can say to a man.

>>18613539
No its not normal. It is you that create unreal expectations. You make the pedestal and fantasize the woman that should stand upon it and then find some unsuspecting female and put her there. When she turns out to be human, unwilling or incapable of fulfilling your expectations you become angry.

>>18614667
I literally never said that, where are you getting that from?

Internal reflection and self improvement ≠ lowering your standards.

>>18614607
>but others can only get degenerates
Not true, women have far more power in who they choose as a partner. The ones that choose "degenerates" are usually naive or equally shitty.

>>18614679
Well it didn't seem obvious enough for him not to make this thread

>>18614686
It's true though, no one cares about a 20-something guy crying about how unfair the world is. Changing yourself is far easier than changing the world, so if there's anything you can do about yourself to make your life better, do that instead of demanding everyone else to change.
Women have been put on the pedestal since there's women, but humanity has been dealing just fine with that until now. What makes you think your whining will change that?

>>18613539
Look man, women didn't ask to be put on a pedestal, imagine how it must feel to been as nothing but a piece of meat, or only be valued for a flap of skin between your legs.

You shouldn't resent them, you should pity them for having to deal with dumb-fucks like you.

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>>18613539
You've described most people on 4chan.

There's a strong anti-woman agenda on here which just oozes from people who have clearly been >tfw no gf for too long.

>all women are whores!
>men are much smarter than women!
>wow look at that slight imperfection, what an ugly bitch!

Meanwhile they jack it to porn relentlessly.

The lack of real world experience from a lot of boards is one of the core staples of 4chan, really sticks out though.

Mhhh steak danfat

>>18614727
You're reading way too much to my post, I was just pointing out how stupid the assumption that men must be strong is. Do you really support gender stereotypes to this extent?

Yeah most are stupid, vapid, arrogant whores who's only accomplishments are putting on make up, getting free rides at college

>>18614694
>self improvement
Literal meme

>>18614752
What are your accomplishments.
You're probably worse than any woman you'll complain about; at least they aren't whiny little bitches like you, faggot.

>>18614735
>imagine how it must feel to be literally worshiped
gee I wonder
dumb fuck
>>18614736
>anti women agenda
Fucking hell reddit, please get your head out of your ass and dip it into nuclear waste

>>18614766
>women
>aren't whiny bitches
Maybe you should've put more thought into this

>>18614748
Yeah because they're true and it makes people miserable if you try to go against them.

>>18614766
>probably
>it says crying and screaming
Are you a whore per chance? Or just really fucking stupid

>>18614771
it doesn't matter what you think, you're a nobody.
you'll always be alone with that attitude.

>>18614776
Could you project your problems any harder sweetie I dont want you to strain yourself but if you could just do that last little flex

>>18614776
>you're a nobody
just like everyone here, who cares?
>you'll always be alone
yeah I've come to terms with this about ten years ago

>>18614774
I don't think that's true though. A lot of older gender stereotypes concerning for example women have been broken by less conservative societal atmosphere. Personally I find it hard to take people seriously who for example subscribe to stereotype of women being automatically inferior in every aspect.

>>18614787
I don't think people ever really believed that, nor won't you be able a traditionalist in a happy marriage who does. The whole point of gender stereotypes is the concept of two halves complimenting each other, not that you could give one gender a linear score.
On average, women are physically weaker than men, they occupy less space on the extreme ends of the IQ distribution, they are more emotional and less aggressive. That doesn't mean there are exceptions, but on a macroscopic level it's true (any given study can back this up) and the reasons for these differences can all be explained using evolutionary theory. None of this doesn't mean women are inferior, though. They just have different talents. The inferiority arises when you have genders trying to go outside of their roles - women can barely pass the physical exams to join the firefighters or the army, and even the top 1% of women in combat perform worse than the average male soldier.
When I say I believe in gender stereotypes, I believe that we should acknowledge the innate biological differences between the sexes and building on them, as opposed to going against them by having men be shitty women and women be shitty men.

>>18614905
>When I say I believe in gender stereotypes, I believe that we should acknowledge the innate biological differences between the sexes and building on them
That's fine and all, but you must understand that society does not build stereotypes entirely out of biological basis, and when someone says "stereotype" no one is referring it to as purely biological, that's only your definition. Even constructs such as "men not allowed to be weak" do not have that much relevance in modern society and it makes practically no sense to justify them from purely biological point of view.

>>18613539
You should dislike women, but not because they're put on a pedestal. That's the fault of men. Any fault of women is actually a fault of men because women are just children that conform to the society men make. Our society has been made by weak, pussy ass men, so women act the way they do. This shit didn't fly in the 50s. So, dislike women for being a shallow reflection of male society, but don't blame them for the weakness of men.

>>18614960
Physical strength isn't required of a man in today's society, but mental fortitude is. The same drive that got cavemen to hunt down mammoths gets the modern man to hunt down careers, and if you don't tow the line, you get discarded by society. It's not nice, but it's something men are built to deal with because if they couldn't they wouldn't be alive. Women on average aren't because they didn't need to be.
Also, all stereotypes are based on some amount of truth. It's impossible to propagate a generalization if there's no truth behind, or 4chan users would be known for slaying pussy all day. What's an example for one of your completely unfounded and harmful stereotypes?

>>18615236
>Physical strength isn't required of a man in today's society, but mental fortitude is
And the same mental strength is required of women. It's not really applicable example to why men specifically are expected to be strong if it's applicable to both genders. And I don't think this can be argued against as women are on the same job market as men, unless you are specifically talking about some shithole country, and I see no reason why you would in the given context. Other than that, I have never claimed stereotypes aren't based on some amount of truth, I've argued that they aren't entirely biological and that some have lost their relevance in modern society. I don't see why I should give an example to something I've never claimed or implied.

>>18615319
It doesn't matter whether women are in the work force now, what matters is what they did for the last ten thousands of years, because that's what determined our instincts. There was no advantage for women who were highly driven and goal-oriented because that's not what was required of them. Instead, women who were vocal whenever something wasn't right got to live and carry on because they got the attention of the men. Women's voices are actually at a frequency that is especially audible to the human ear because of that. We essentially all have bodies suited for a lifestyle before the invention of the wheel, and unless countries start enforcing some brutal eugenics program that won't change anytime soon.
Now let me rephrase, what would be an example of an nowadays irrelevant gender stereotype that isn't entirely based on biology?

>>18613539
I think frustration with this is normal, but I'm not sure if resentment is normal. Jealousy is for small people. Notice all the small people bickering, above.

>>18615349
>It doesn't matter whether women are in the work force now, what matters is what they did for the last ten thousands of years, because that's what determined our instincts.
That is absolutely irrelevant for our current society: for example the stereotypes of women are changing constantly as the societal standards and norms change. This is very modern phenomena and has very little to do with how women were treated in prehistoric era. For example "women are bad drivers" is a stereotype that isn't coined by prehistoric biologic facts, but a modern invention as the stereotype couldn't have even existed in prehistorical societies. It's a development that isn't purely biological.
>Now let me rephrase, what would be an example of an nowadays irrelevant gender stereotype that isn't entirely based on biology?
Pretty much every stereotype, not even limited to gender. Of course it has a lot to do how you define "biology" but I'm assuming in this context you mean something that isn't for example shaped by cultural details. "Men cannot be weak" fits the bill, as well as some more high-profile examples such as views of ethnic minorities as "objectively" worse on certain aspects, shaped by culture (for example slavery, economical aspects, the view of Caucasian culture as a world center). For the sake of conversation I'd rather that you give me an example of a stereotype that is entirely, purely based on biology and hasn't been shaped by any other factor, and I'll tell you why you are wrong.

But then again, I feel the conversation is derailing really strongly. Only thing what I wanted to convey was that the stereotype that men must be unconditionally strong is dumb and becoming less and less relevant as gender specific.