What is the best way to have the exact reverse relationship and

Soooo....you wanna be the dude in the relationship. Good luck, unless he's a beta twink or some cuck faggot then almost no guy would be cool with you trying to be the one mainly running shit in the relationship.

find a cuck

Find a 5 year old boy.

If you are a decent to good-looking woman, you should have absolutely no problem finding a man like this.

You will have to make a post on some personals website, or a dating app, saying exactly what you said in OP.

Trust me, you'll have absolutely no problem getting dates set up

>>18531773
Sounds to me like you want a 5 year old kid.

>>18531773
Depends what you mean by dominant. You need to give examples. Like, would you tell someone "today we are going to do x" or would you say "we are going to do x and you have no choice"

>>18531773
Sounds to me like you need a good dicking.

>>18531789
>>18531807

I know it's 4chan but "5 year old" shouldn't come to mind in a post involving sex lol

Do you mean because I mentioned them not having to really do any of the burdens of a woman OR a man, which makes them seem like a kid as they'd have no responsibilities? I mean they can have a job or whatever.

Really, there is no reason for the relationship to be exclusive or for us to live together. I would be very happy to just hang out with someone now again again, fuck them and be affectionate in a more masculine way, buy them a trinket and send them back to their other gf/bf and life.

>>18531808

That is the thing, I don't see it as very dominating except in the sexual sense. I would even let the guy take advantage a bit as long as he did it in a specific way and there wasn't open malice behind it.

There's this couple at work that just got married, the woman is super high maintenance and the guy openly calls her his "queen" and stuff like that lol. Despite this, he is very masculine in most other ways, and she feminine. I would way rather be like the guy than the woman in that dynamic, even though she obviously seems the more dominant in a sense. Though I must stress its not a REQUIREMENT that the guy be high maintenance, just something I recently realised would not bother me.

>>18531849
Oh so you wanna be exactly how a dude is whose single. Sorry sweetie but that doesn't work for women. No guy will let you treat him like a gf, no sane guy anyway. At first it may go your way but I assure you he'll eventually outguy you and you'll assume the natural role of a gf mindset. Why? Because you have emotions and shit that can't be flipped on or off as easily for a guy. The fact that you're asking how rather than just applying it shows you're not ready to out guy a guy

>>18531849
You probably just need to find the right person op.
It's funny, there's been multiple threads today that are the inverse of your post.
>>18531766 for example.
Consider Judaism there's a stereotype like that for jewish people, there's also a romantic comedy about the same thing.

>>18531849
>I know it's 4chan but "5 year old" shouldn't come to mind in a post involving sex lol
Yes it should.

>>18531773
I'm not saying that it's impossible, but that's going to be kind of difficult. The kind of guys that would be interested in that kind of relationship are probably not someone you'd be interested in dating or fucking. It sounds like you're more interested in asserting some sort of masculine dominance over a regular guy, which probly won't pan out for you in the long term.
That being said, I guess your best bet would probably be okcupid, as that will let you spell out your expectations explicitly, and weed out people you don't think will be a good fit

>>18531866
>you'll assume the natural role of a gf mindset. Why? Because you have emotions and shit that can't be flipped on or off as easily for a guy. The fact that you're asking how rather than just applying it shows you're not ready to out guy a guy

Well, I have already had a relationship similar to this, it just happened as a fluke so the way I achieved it is not really something that can be reproduced the same way. I maintain profiles on fetish websites but have yet to be contacted by anyone attractive. That is why I am seeking advice, as I am not sure the fetish community is the best place to look.

I did also approach a person IRL with an offer, which he politely declined (among other things I didn't phrase it very well, but it's also probably just not for him).

>Because you have emotions and shit that can't be flipped on or off as easily for a guy.

Not even sure what you mean by this so will address several possibilities. I have had 2 open relationships for a cumulative 6 years and I can confidently say that I don't care if the other person sleeps with someone else.

Of course I would develop feelings if they were satisfying me emotionally and sexually for a long enough period of time, but I'm not sure there is a person on planet earth this isn't true of lol. But in general, after comparing my past two relationships, I was much happier in the one where we never lived together than the one where we did, which was stifling at best.

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Start dating older black men and see what happens.

>>18531866
Kek, kinda sounds like a projection anon, but also dubs, so not sure what to think

>>18531773
>I don't want to be the bottom in penetrative sex at all
So does this mean you want to call the shots or fuck dudes with a strap-on? I'm totally on board with the kind of relationship you're looking for but only OK with one of these scenarios. There are a lot more dudes than you think who are into this sort of thing, you're just looking in the wrong places and will probably have to drop your physical standards a point or two. You'd do well to start lurking the /gfd/+/rr/ generals on /d/. It'll either give you a better chance of finding a partner or turn you normal. Good luck.

>>18531995
Lol it's not projection, I just find it comical that this chick thinks she can pull this off.

>>18531773

just date skinny beta dudes, do what you want and see how they react. thats all any of us do. trying to go INTO a relationship with certain rules doesn't get you what you need.

date around, dont put on a show for anyone, and see what you attract. and if you are more interested in being the dominant aggresive one, just go ahead and ask guys out to make your intentions clear. they'll catch on by that alone.

the only thing that confuses me is you saying you don't want to 'bottom'. are you saying you don't want to be penetrated during sex? would you be fucking a dude in the ass wtih a strap on or?? whats the plan here

Tbh that sounds great.

My ex was kinda like that though not sexually, and I think that's where I got the idea and realized it worked pretty well for me.

>>18531849
Let me second >>18531808 here: you need to be more specific. I've read this thread, and I'm still not sure what you mean sometimes. Like, when you say
>I would even let the guy take advantage a bit as long as he did it in a specific way and there wasn't open malice behind it.
You leave undefined two big variables: (1) what does "let the guy take advantage" mean to you, and (2) what does "in a specific way" mean? If you mean "he's on top penetrating me while I feel that I am taking a passive role," say that; if you mean "he gets to spank me and hold my wrists above my head," say that instead. You're much more specific about financial matters ("buy them a trinket" and "a bit financially exploitative") and very vague about sex. I'd guess that you're insecure about sex and feel more secure as a worker than a lover.

To be honest, I've always enjoyed gfs that took a more aggressive role in bed, especially ones on top who rode me and stayed in control. As a man, there's a lot of pressure to always be in control and always perform, and having a woman take charge and allow me just to experience pleasure rather than worrying about giving it—that's kind of amazing. I know that I'm not alone in that feeling, and I think you'll find plenty of guys down for that. If you're talking whips and chains, though (there's that specificity again), maybe not so much. Most guys don't want anyone buying them trinkets, though, and you might have to compromise there with most men: just don't buy each other anything. Is that something you could handle, or is the power of purchasing and giving too important for you to give up?

I'm a guy, I'd try it out. Kind of sick of being the one doing all of the initiating/chasing in a relationship anyway.

>>18531866
>>18531995
>The fact that you're asking how rather than just applying it shows you're not ready to out-guy a guy
This is the crux.
There's a reason this woman has to ask, and it's not because she's "beta" or lacked strong masculine leadership in her life. On the contrary, she portrays herself clearly has having "the instinct", so now she has to find a way to trick an actual man into letting her play pretend.

Someone's got it into her head that femininity and feminine roles are weak. That's the only reason for her to be averse to a normal relationship.
In reality, femininity is only a "weakness" in men. So she'll need to find some weak man and continually enable him.

>>18531773
>unfortunately I didn't enjoy it when I had sex with a woman
>they have a whole subculture (butch/femme)
>a sexual top. Not even with any overt BDSM references

Porn rots the mind, girl.
There's a reason society used to look down on it. You haven't "freed up" or "embraced" sexuality, you're in a rut.

The number one argument I used to hear growing up, and bought into, was that "only homophobes and repressive christians think that being openly sexual will confuse people"

Confusion was the operative word for stuffy older conservatives and we hated it.
Well look at this.

>>18531773
So, clearly, you have gender dysphoria and want to be a man but don't want to transition. The solution, perhaps, is to find a dude with gender dysphoria who also doesn't want to transition. Then you can pretend to swap roles in the relationship. Right?

>>18532939
this
or stop watching porn / read a book on sex therapy

>>18532913
Stop sipping the feminism juice senpai. Shits bad for you. There's a reason why guys get away more with sleazy shit. If I wanna go dominate a woman, i do. I don't try to look up tips and tricks. And that's where OP fails because she's trying to cherry pick on how to pick up a submissive guy. I go out, find a bitch, disrespect the fuck outta her in bed and move on. If OP knew what to do then the same tactic applies. But since most guys aren't submissive, most will eventually reverse the situation and make OP fill her natural role of a gf or a submissive fuck. Once again sweetie. You can't outguy a guy.

>>18532939
Wow, I didn't catch that. OP is a bigger dumbass than I thought.

Try the role reversal thread over on /d/. I think they have a relationship map finder thing.

Honestly, you sound pretty close to what I'd like in a partner so it's going to be possible for you to find someone.

Good luck OP.

Sounds to me like OP just wants to be the metaphorical man of the relationship, but otherwise is just a normal hetero woman.

>>18531773
Date a twink

>>18531773
1st, quit "marketing" and just start dating guys who are open minded to talk to. By that, I'm saying find a guy who listens to you and thinks your ideas are worth following.

>>18531773
>What I really want is to be in a protective role over a guy as well as a sexual top. Not even with any overt BDSM references if possible
What you really want is to be a mother, deep inside. Even if you think you don't want children, your motherly instincts kick in no matter what your ideology tells you.

You don't want to be a femdom, you want to rear and care for your child. Your man is not your child. It's inherently a unhealthy relationship if he acts so much against his masculine nature. Anon, sort yourself out.

>>18531808
>"today we are going to do x"
Where the fuck do you guys get the idea that this is a cool and good way to act? I've seen this shit like one a week on here.

I'd tell that date no we're not and to never speak to me again. The people who act that way and their partners who like it (assuming such people exist) are fucking lame.

lots of mommies little boys around
find a less assblasted one who isnt going to rage when you make it clear you are their mommy and the little neets are in need pampering

most of these fat neckbeards, some handsome autists, no chads, which you probably want anyway

I understand your difficulty with the word dominant, it's definitely become too mired in the BDSM world, I think active/passive partner is a more accurate term for what you describe, you want to be the more active initiator of love or affection within the relationship, which is perfectly understandable and fine.

I'm a guy and personally I love it when my fiancée takes the active partner role. In our relationship though we often switch, depending on our emotional levels. I think it's more intuitive than anything, as we never really discuss our dynamic, we simply switch roles depending on how the other one is feeling, like a mutual responsibility to make sure we're not getting overwhelmed. It should be noted though that we're both big introverts.

There are definitely plenty of guys who would be flattered by your advances as an active partner and be very happy to take on the more passive role but you would need to find someone who is emotionally intelligent enough to understand what's happening and won't misunderstand, feel emasculated or even misconstrue your love and affection for them being some kind of sex icon and turn into a moron.

>Don't want to be a mother
Fuck off then
Gluing a dick to your pussy is probably the best thing you can do