Only 1% of people reach 25 years while still virgins What about

>>18493425
Where are you getting these statistics? That's just plain wrong

>>18493425
Wow I never thought I could become part of the 1% who said the American dream is dead? I did it baby

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>>18493425
Virginity is social construct.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40504076

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

Try lowering your standards or curing your autism.
http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation

>>18493434
Law is also a social construct. Does this mean it has no meaning?

>>18493434
Society is a social construct

>>18493434
As long as we met in a pitch black room and never had to see each other I would be ok with this

>>18493441
Not obeying laws will cost you your freedom, money, time and maybe even life.

>>18493442
Not obeying society will turn you into homeless eventually.

Not paying mind to how many girls have touched your dick can only get rid you off few insecurities, give you a little confidence and paradoxically push you forward to your first gf.

Paying any attention to what others think about you just makes you the ultimate beta. The manly man give exactly 0 fucks about others and just do his thing. The right answer to question like
>are you virgin?
is yes, because so far every girl i have encountered was afraid of me.

>pro tip
If you eat her out and make her cum before you insert, she wont even think you were virgin in the first place.

So locate your balls, learn how to not give a fuck (or learn how to ignore that feeling), dont be yourself and hunt some girl down.

>>18493444
Save this pic and post it everytime some r9k refugee posts that girls have it easy.

>>18493444
I think that's a girl (male) anon. You might be gay

>>18493425
A lot of people would tell you you seem entitled to sex but I really don't think that's the issue.

Sometimes people just slip through the cracks. I'm the same as you, I am nearing 25 and still haven't had sex. I've had a few opportunities that didn't work out or I just wasn't interested in the girl. Something about "waiting for the right one" just stuck with me, I can't make it go away.

You gotta understand though that women our age are bombarded by men. This is especially true with social media, texting and dating websites. Because men are still expected to make the moves and many are not hesitant to do so, you can miss out so easily by just not trying at all, and hanging back hoping she comes to you (which CAN happen but only in a very social setting, usually).

I don't know any other details but consider that there are women who find you attractive and just didn't/don't say anything. That's been the case for me a few times and that's just from women who came up to me eventually. Oh and before you assume I'm some "Chad" - I'm just a short skinny ass dude with nerdy hobbies who can be socially outgoing at times. And my face is handsome, I guess.

>>18493454
Most girls have it easy. We don't care about the minority that don't. The vast majority of girls are attractive by male standards.

If it wasn't for the internet i'd probably still be a virgin.i have absolutely no social life. I just don't know how to build one since i'm autistic and depressed as fuck.

>>18493459
Not gay just desperated

>>18493467
The amount of autism is high in your post. You are either
A. Also super ugly as that girl in pic and by your own logic nobody should give a fuck about you.
B. Another insecure poster who never really tried.
C. Average dude too lazy to do anything but still likes to shitpost.

I bet it on C.

>>18493465
I'm not entitled to sex, in fact I am undeserving of sex. That's what baffles me, man.

I've never been part of the bottom 1% on anything except on this, and it's a tough pill to swallow.

>>18493482
Non arguments, all fake. I guess you are trolling because no one can be that delusional, even my female friends admit most women have it easy.

>>18493425
>Only 1% of people reach 25 years while still virgins
r u sure?
plenty of asian are virgin pass that age

>>18493559
It's actually closer to 3%

Still beyond pathetic

>>18493425
Virginity literally means nothing, especially as a guy.
Your problem isn't that you're a virgin, it's that you have such a negative perception involving sex and virginity.

Sex is just something that's fun, you can share with others, and also happens to be a requirement for procreation. Missing out on sex isn't a big deal unless you want to make children (again, not a problem for guys).

>>18493465
>A lot of people would tell you you seem entitled to sex

Vaguely annoys me but to be honest I only hear this on the internet from people who've already been laid. I think being a virgin in your late 20s, is literally a foreign concept to most people. Like they really don't understand that a large section of you social life is non-existent (I guess most virgins in their late 20s and beyond don't have much of a social life.)

>>18493425
I'm right there with you, anon. Im 29,and finally said fuck it and hired an escort a couple weeks ago to lose mine. I'm simply too repulsive physically and too weird mentally to have a relationship so it looks like whores are going to be the breadth of my sexual experience. You should look into it, OP.

>>18493653
Case in point :>>18493641
>Missing out on sex isn't a big deal unless you want to make children (again, not a problem for guys).

No, it's an essential rite of passage. To be a virgin at this late in the game usually means you have other more pressing social issues. Virginity ITSELF is not a big deal, it's everything that comes with it.

>>18493531
What makes you think you're undeserving other than the fact that you haven't had it yet?

I don't think sex is something you "deserve" or "earn", ever. I think it's something that happens between two people who want to engage in physical intimacy. That's all. The attraction "rating" you have can be influenced by things within your control but it's not something you deserve or don't deserve, and thinking it is is probably what influences your entire line of thinking here.

There's drug dealers, gang bangers, and murderers who get laid. Short, tall, fat, skinny, rich, poor guys get laid. If you ever think "I don't deserve sex because of X, Y, or Z", then look to the people who have X, Y or Z and DO get laid and you'll realize it's only in your own mind that you "don't deserve to get laid".

>>18493664
Sounds like self-loathing that comes from insecurities, there's no physical or mental difference between being a virgin and not being one. it's not some super-spooky "enlightenment"

Before and after sticking my dick in a hole, I was the same exact person I've been my whole life.

Sex is usually taboo in most cultures, so a "rite-of-passage" doesn't even apply to virginity, in any case you could just lie about your virginity and nobody would know.

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This is where the thread dies, cos OP is that weird no-(wo)man's land of being in his late 20s and early 30s, where he's too young to be bitter but too old to go try the usual methods.

There's no real advice for you OP. I don't know what to say.

>>18493465
I am slipping through the cracks... I have tried talking to a lot of women but none of them show interest.

>>18493823
I guess you have to be somewhat interesting or just talk to girls in your league/common interest.

>>18493900
>in your league
And that is the biggest problem. Nobody wants uggos even other uggos.

Honestly, stop going into situations expecting something. No one owes you anything, even a negative response. When you stop trying people will come to you.

There are multiple people feeling the same way as you, you're not alone. Just give your all and you'll find somebody who fits. There is always someone for everyone, op, remember that.

>>18493903
I don't know, maybe it's cos I (used to) live in the city, but there seems to be no unattached uggos in their late 20s (as you head out of the city centre and inner city parts, the uggos increase a little. I like to think there's a silent, passive eugenics at work here by the beautiful people. I mean, they took over geekdom. Nothing is beyond them.)

>>18493943
You really need to ask yourself if you think everyone in a relationship is happy. Or if it's all it's cracked up to be. Loneliness sucks, but being in a relationship with the wrong person is far worse. Take it from someone who has been there. Do NOT date a woman you can't stand just to have someone even if you find her physically attractive.

25 v, always had pretty ladies show interest but that qt, somewhat lanky-dorky yet elegant type of my dreams never cared for me.

It's not a rare specimen. I see them all the time, they're with all sorts of guys from all walks of life. They can be silly, but they are baseline serious as fuck just like me.

That's the girl I'm waiting for.

>>18493434
>In reality this girl actually has extremely unrealistic standards and is fucking Chads left and right as we speak (but none of them are committing ofc)

>>18493425
Statistics on virginity are what made me insecure and pressured me to lose my virginity to the first girl who paid attention to me when I was 19, even though I wasn't attracted to her. I didn't enjoy it and it was really painful having to break up with her, but at least I know I'm not missing out on anything anymore as sex is extremely overrated. I'm completely content with porn and actually prefer it since I don't have to interact with women (I'm an introverted person really). So don't base your life decisions on statistics, just because other people are doing something doesn't mean you have to.

Virginity has nothing to do with talent or ability either, just how social you are. It's simple really. If you're someone who spends his evening inside playing video games or watching anime like myself, you're not gonna meet any women, whereas if you go out multiple times a week to social gatherings you'll probably eventually lose it no matter who you are.

>>18493482
He's right tho...

Yeah, there's a minority of ugly girls who suffer, but they go through the same kind of trials ugly men have to endure.

>>18493913
There isn't someone for everyone, if there was people wouldn't die alone.

>>18494092
>blah blah make 1st time special

Ugh, every time... we're in our late 20s and early 30s the first time is going to be awkward as fuck and not naive and sweet if we were in our teens.

>blah blah i'm not missing out and I'm introverted blah blah

Good for you.

>Virginity has nothing to do with talent or ability either, just how social you are.

Only real point you made. Being social. Funnily enough /adv/ has never solved the issue of making friends in your late 20s

>>18494114
Please don't derail the thread.

>>18493425
You're seeing this all wrong.

99% people of failed.

>>18494164
And the thread just flew off the tracks.

>>18494145
>blah blah make 1st time special
Terrible reading comprehension. Never said he had to make his first time special, never said he even had to have sex at all. Was just giving him an example saying I was in the same position as OP trying to adhere to statistics and it didn't make me happy, and that he should live his life based off his own needs instead of comparing himself to others and worrying about being in the 1%

>>18494145
>>18494092
Introversion does not mean shyness or dislike of people, it simply means that your social energy is like batteries in that it needs time to recharge. Vs extroverts, whose social energy is like solar panels that just bathe in social light consistently for energy.

>Funnily enough /adv/ has never solved the issue of making friends in your late 20s
I have plenty of friends and have little trouble making new ones, obviously this refers specifically to meeting more women. My hobbies/interests are heavily male dominated with the exception of photography. Every woman I know through work or friends is taken. I've tried Tinder but women on there are usually flaky, passive, bombarded with male attention. When I was in HS I actually had a more consistent flow of attention that never materialized due to insecurities/incompatibility issues. But I think getting laid is generally harder for men, or at least the current system is set up that men are far more likely to go long periods without sex or be virgins into their late 20's and beyond. It's amazing, you'd think if women are all coupled up then men should be coupled with them too, yet I only ever see guys with these problems.

>>18494184
>yet I only ever see guys with these problems.

This is 4chan, there is a definite lack of women on these boards bar the ones that known to have a heavy female presence such as /cgl/ which is inherently a social board.

>>18494180
>should live his life based off his own needs instead of comparing himself to others and worrying about being in the 1%

It may come as a surprise to you but most people desire sex and it is a base human instinct in those who aren't (completely) broken.

>>18494184
>Translation: I am one of those "introverted" fucks that can slay pussy with ease.

You sound vaguely similar to a friend I used to have, smooth motherfucker, used to always stress that he was a misunderstood lonely introvert. Hot chicks were only a moment away from throwing their pussies at him. Cool guy, always envied him though.

>>18494208
I don't really see myself that way but if you insist....

And it's not like you couldn't learn something from him like how to be "cool" or whatever you think he's "got" that you don't, ya know?

>>18494195
>most people desire sex and it is a base human instinct in those who aren't (completely) broken.
That's what we have masturbation for. Hands provide more friction than a vag and porn provides better imagery and convenience than a real life girl. So sex is really just a glorified version of masturbation. It's not like it's gonna change your life, the only difference is the emotional connection.

>>18493695
>What makes you think you're undeserving other than the fact that you haven't had it yet?
It's a simple deduction, if even though I want it (speaking more generally of a relationship) and try for it it keeps eluding me then I either don't deserve it or there is something very intrinsically wrong with me.

There is something about me that makes me either repulsive or completely invisible for people of the opposite sex.

>>18493754
I was bitter. Now I'm just depressed.

>>18494214
>I don't really see myself that way but if you insist....

Used the exact same sort of deflection.

>learn

I couldn't peg down what "it" was aside from the flow of his conversations. I used to watch the dude from a distance just to see what he did.

>>18494216
>That's what we have masturbation for. Hands provide more friction than a vag and porn provides better imagery and convenience than a real life girl

If masturbation was enough we wouldn't have hookers. We want physical contact with another human being.

>emotional connection is important

No shit.

>>18494257
>If masturbation was enough we wouldn't have hookers. We want physical contact with another human being.
People crave sex because it's not something they can do whenever they want like with masturbation. It's like a rare exotic fruit. They build it up in their head but once it becomes a routine thing they get tired of it quickly. My opinion isn't that unpopular either, I've heard the same thing from other people.

But what annoys me is when people treat sex like some sort of milestone you earn and should feel proud of. There's no reason to stress out about being a virgin. It's literally just rubbing skin together and most people realize it's not a big deal once they have it.

>>18494295
>But what annoys me is when people treat sex like some sort of milestone

It's like you read only what you want to read. It is a milestone, there is reason to stress about being a virgin, you fucking nimrod. To be a virgin in their late 20s you have to have failed multiple social hurdles, it's not the virginity itself that's the problems but everything surrounding it.

>>18493653
>they really don't understand that a large section of you social life is non-existent (I guess most virgins in their late 20s and beyond don't have much of a social life.)

>>18494335
>you fucking nimrod
This signals that we have arrived at the root of your insecurities

>To be a virgin in their late 20s you have to have failed multiple social hurdles
Studies have shown the opposite to be true. People who get laid often are usually the same retards who major in humanities and coast through life. People with meaningful accomplishments are focusing on practical things and have much more to show for it.
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php

>>18494348
>People who get laid often...
Again you are reading only what you want to read.

>>18493425
Just go to a hooker OP. I don't think I've ever seen /adv/ solve anything that wasn't going to solve itself.

You think they'd let me test drive a sports car into a ravine without a license?

>>18494445
Something like a Ferrari Testarossa.

>be playing Outrun tracks as I drive off a cliff

>>18494378
Did this and can confirm it was fantastic. Sex isn't as mind blowing as I thought it would be but it's still pretty neat. Looking forward to having sex with a woman with no condom whom I'm not afraid of catching an sti with.

>>18494295
Honestly when somebody like me talks about virginity we mean more the whole having a relationship, being with somebody you love, loving and loving back and that kind of stuff.

>>18494473
Maybe I'll have a cardboard cutout of a famous blonde from the 80s/80s in the passenger seat.

It's a matter of priorities. I'm 26 and I never cared about getting sex. Not going to lose my virginity just to fit in with the 99%.

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>>18494749

>I'm so non-conformist I'm gonna die a virgin

Honestly OP you worrying about shit like this is pointless. Just live and If you find somebody you will and if not then so be it.

Having sex with somebody is not the end all be all to being happy in life.

Just do you OP

I was 28 before I lost mine. Was super depressed before then because I thought I was such a failure.

Still felt the same after. Sex will not fix yourself. It'll not some magic pill that'll make everything better. Only you can fix yourself.

>>18494772
>Just do you OP

Amazing advice. Just amazing.

>>18494599
It would make for an interesting live car chase on the news of an overweight man driving a testarossa down the highway with a cardboard gf in the passenger seat.

>>18494774
I think a relationship would help me fix myself though. Doing everything by yourself hurts.

>>18493434
Too bad height isn't a social construct
>5'6

>>18493425
Stop looking for sex in a relationship and focus on a long term relationship (even if that's not what you want), do small romantic things for your parter and within a year they'll be so head over heels that theyll practically be begging for it. Ease into it tho, small sexual acts leading up to the eventual pooch pounding. Then once you've mastered the art, dump her and use your newfound confidence and skills to get more women, honing your skills along the way. Don't be afraid to be a dick, and don't be too much of a prick.

>>18493434
>Virginity is social construct.

Something being a social construct doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It exists. It's just social in nature.

I mean, yeah, no physiological change occurs right when you first have a penis enter your vagina, or your penis enters its first vagina (or other orifices or whatever). Well, I guess there's the hymen, but for many, that breaks well before sex. Your range of properties after having sex are pretty much the same as before having sex, or at least no more different than the changes in property between any other two points in time.

Does that mean it isn't real? Well, we could decide to discard the concept if we find it not to be useful. We can advocate for that now. But as it stands RIGHT NOW, it is real, because people acknowledge it, and it has social consequences.

Lmao why care about this shit? I'm 25, never kissed, and absolutely couldn'r care less. It doesn't affect my confidence one iota. If a girl throws herself at me, I wouldn't refuse, but I'll never put any effort in myself.

>>18496089
>it is real, because people acknowledge it
Maybe you should spend less time on the internet, because you're confusing 4chan for a real society.

>>18495346
>Then once you've mastered the art, dump her and use your newfound confidence and skills to get more women
Ice Cold.

>>18493454
You're my new hero!

>>18496679
This is just silly anon.

Male virginity is treated as something overwhelmingly negative in the actual society.

>thinking it's bad
That alone makes you bottom 1%.

Good news: it can be easily changed. Just think it's good.
Well done. You're the top 99% now, although I'm not sure if it's all that better.

>>18495270
>Doing everything by yourself hurts.

Like riding a fucking pedalo by yourself. When you have emotional support things seem a lot easier.

>>18493641
In theory this sounds reasonable, but that doesn't mean much when it comes to reality. I moved to Berlin as a guy and I have a few friends (who don't know I'm a virgin) so I see sexuality almost every day. Berlin is probably the most liberated city in this aspect so the girls I hang out with all dress like sluts in a berliner way, bdsm chokers, collars, chains, fishnets, sexualized 90s clothing with big belts, platformer shoes, you can imagine. It's hot but at the same time they basically advertise being a sex addict while I'm just sitting with them as a virgin guy. It's just sad that some guys can just go on Tinder and have a 6/10 girl literally delivered to them while the average gets nothing.
From a girl's POV, it's like a rich person saying money doesn't matter to someone who can't afford food

>>18496934
>average

Dude you are not average. Be bitter as you want but you are not average.

>>18496941
What makes you think that?

>>18493434
>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come. “It’s very, very depressing,”

poor girls.

>>18496942
The fact that you're posting on this corner of the internet on this board. Anons of a particular sort have a weirdly contradictory view of themselves of grading themselves pretty high while claiming everyone else have insanely high standards.

Average also means you're not bad, not impressive but not bad.

Either that or you're incredibly boring.

>>18493641
>Missing out on sex isn't a big deal

It's a massive deal. Most people get laid as they go through life connecting with people (and not just sexual relationships). If you haven't been laid yet you're either super religious or socially retarded.

>>18496977
I go pretty hard on myself but I wouldn't say I'm ugly. My biggest insecurity is my height (5'10)
Outside the past few months, I just don't really have friends or they are all introverted. Also I'm pretty confused, I see women staring at me all the time in a bar or something but maybe I just look very autistic. I'm really not sure. My two friends who are a lot more successful with women are all uglier than me thats for sure, but theyre a lot more outgoing. I dont wanna fake my personality to get laid

>>18497002
>My biggest insecurity is my height (5'10)

I know manlets that get thrown pussy at their faces.

>>18497014
Yeah, it's not about girls, I would just like to be taller. I'm not from the US anyway, girls and society are a lot more better here
I had a few opportunities with sluts or girl who had crush on me but I've always waited for the right girl (which is hard to met if you never go out)
Now I just want to lose my virginity because it started to bother me

>>18496089
>Well, I guess there's the hymen, but for many, that breaks well before sex.
Hymens never "break" or leave the body, and they regain their natural elasticity after a period of no sex.
The "broken hymen" myth was literally made up because men didn't (and possibly still don't) know how to fuck women without making them bleed and feel horrendous pain. Since they couldn't figure it out, and were too stupid/primitive/callous to try lubing properly, they assumed it must be natural and unavoidable. Now you know.

>>18496679
While people don't focus on your virginity, it can crop up a number of times purely by accident.

4chan may not be a real society but they (certain boards) are the consequence of no social life, no gf and no sexual release.

>>18497020
You could be lying but I would have no clue.

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>>18493425
tell us exactly what you do to get a gf

no embellishing. Tell us EXACTLY what you do and we will tell you why you fail.

>>18497060
>I would have no clue
It's called Google. This is 2017, anon. Education is basically free.

>>18497082
I think you missed his point.

>>18497108
My mistake, I misunderstood. His point is still quite useless, though. Anyone could be lying to anyone about anything.

>>18496528
This, but I probably would refuse.

I'm not asexual or anything, I'm just not looking for a relationship right now and I'm not a fan of one night stands.

>>18496528
>Lmao why care about this shit?

Sexual frustration, no female contact and porn consumption becoming increasingly empty and evermore deviant.

/r9k/ lied to me. You can't live as a robot.

>>18497082
Google gave me this
https://www.bustle.com/articles/103312-can-you-become-a-virgin-again-how-your-body-changes-if-you-havent-had-sex-in

>>18496089
>It has social consequences
Tell me some or these consequences...

>>18493425
I've been wondering what happened to all the (single) uggos and fatties of late. It just seems to be wall to wall 7+/10 chicks these days. Did they have the balls (lol) to kill themselves like some of us want?

Stop caring about it and enjoy doing your own thing. I was a virgin until 28. I'm married now but still have nostalgia about my virgin 20's. You can do whatever the fuck you want so stop being peer pressured like a little bitch.

>>18497767
What nostalgia? Sitting day in, day out playing vidya and watching telly until you feel numb?

>>18493465
same as you, 19 and got myself a 17 yr old virgin gf 6 months, still didn't any fucking but we always end up doing other things, it's pretty great, hopefully this turns into a lifetime deal

>>18497876
>19

Please fuck off

Sometimes I feel like women don't actually enjoy sex

If adv could solve the no friends problem then the no gf issue would solve itself.

But /adv/ is shit to offer advice that is actually useful.

>>18499073
More like the no friends and no gf problems aren't easy problems to solve.

>>18500627
Often they are not the problem but the symptom.

Thank God I used whatever little socialness I had left back when I was 19 to score a gf and lose my V. I'd probably kill myself if I was 25+ on the virginity radar like you losers.

>>18493641
>Sex is a fun, social activity that is part of nearly everybody's life
>So you shouldn't feel badly about the fact that it has not happened for you yet, despite being well past the normal age range of first sexual contact

Seems that the default response to people concerned about this is pretty dismissive.

If we're talking about R9k neckbeards and MGTOWs who are resentful of women because they haven't gotten laid, yeah, fuck those assholes. They've let their bitterness unrealistically distort their view of the world.

If we're talking about anybody who is socially awkward or lonely and feels that sex is one of the meaningful things they are missing out on, I dunno, it seems odd to tell them that they just shouldn't care and that their views on sex are necessarily wrong.

>>18500883
The anxiety and agonizing over something that would come so easily if they did the most natural thing, socializing, is all that's holding them back. You have to look at a group of people and go "alright, it doesn't matter if I fuck up this time" and just fucking go for it. If you can't do that then there is nothing to be done. That's it. All or nothing.

In other words, quit worrying. About virginity, how many social contracts, how many boobs, kisses, or swooners you have. It's all overblown and none of it really matters once you find out what you want to do with your life. That's the hard truth. It really couldn't be any simpler. If you can't help yourself then nobody can help you.

>>18493659
Not OP, but I never want to buy sex, and I don't think it would help me in the least.

Being a late virgin represents being incapable of social interaction that is normal for everyone.

If I just buy it, I've still not experienced anything that I felt I was deficient in as a virgin. I'm some guy who's such a social failure that he can only experience sex when purchased.

Not to mention, I think there are moral issues attached to it. I think sex work can be valid work, and people can engage in a mutual consenting agreement to trade money for sex, but in most cases, this contract is between the john and a desperate, vulnerable person who is doing something she doesn't want to be doing and reluctantly giving access to what would prefer to be a private and intimate activity. It's like telling a starving persons you'll give them food if they drink your piss, and then being like "he totally agreed to drinking the piss, so nobody was hurt."

stop putting sex on a pedestal and you will get laid magically

it really works

this is the one weird trick

>>18493434
Calling something a social construct doesnt make it invalid or meaningless

>>18497166
>He thought he could beat nature

You dont win that battle