As a guy, when you meet a new girl you're interested in,

>>18457140
In my experience girls who keep a lot of guys around to give them attention aren't worth going after. If you bribe them they will put you right into their friend zone, don't do it. If you want to stand out, be a bit of an ass and tell them exactly what you think of them, at least then you will stand out and appear to have some backbone.

>>18457199

Being an ass doesn't work when they can just get validation from anyone.

I'm more at the point of: how do I get a girl to want to go for a walk in the park with me over spending a day binge drinking on a boat with someone else?

And let's assume, for arguments sake, that :"girls like that aren't worth your time" is a non-answer.

>>18457140
heres what you do..

>how do you compete?

i dont.

>>18457140
>As a guy, when you meet a new girl you're interested in, how do you go about competing with every orbiter she has on social media?
By being better than they are. She's not dating them for a reason, if you're better than they are then you shouldn't have a problem getting her to date you. And no, being better than them doesn't just mean that you earn more than they do, contrary to what /r9k/ will have you believe

>>18457300
The point is that they are getting validation from everyone and so by being nice to them you are being like everyone else.
If a girl wants to spend all day binge drinking you aren't going to change her, you would have more luck going for a walk in the park and talking to girls that are already there enjoying that kind of thing. It sounds like you are just going after the wrong kind of girls.

>>18457331

So how do I get a girl that doesn't need me to notice me

those 2 questions arent connected right?

you cant do anything about orbiters and my guess is you got a bit older and girls look for something different than before

>>18457345
Women don't get with men because they "need" them, they get with them because they find them desirable. Desirable men don't flock to women and tell them how beautiful they are and shower them in gifts. Desirable men have enough self-respect and strength to be themselves and find women who like them for who they are.