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If I generally like a guy, but I'm not sure how serious

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If I generally like a guy, but I'm not sure how serious he is about me. I don't want to get pumped and dumped, I want him to seriously, truly care about me and truly love me before I have sex with him, so that after sex he still is with me and is a good partner for me. I don't want him to use me. How do I do that? No religious/alt-right ideas please, those are harmful to me as they go against my interests: I want to have my own (good) money to get myself whatever I want whenever I want which means work is a necessity, since work gives me money, and religion wants to deprive me of a lot of things I want and I love, which again is bad for me and that's not what I want.
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Just don't have sex with him until like a month or so has passed duh
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>>18403974
if you're hot and you don't sound like a dumb hoe he will stay.

>inb4 i'm hot
yeaaah
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>>18403974
>wants her cake and eat it

traditional courtship, lady. look it up.


oh and stop picking the wrong fucking religion, would you?
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>>18403974
Be a valuable and interesting person.

Also this >>18403975
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>>18403974
If you dont trust him, dont have sex with him. Have sex with him once you trust him.

Dont listen to cheap words, look at actions he do. And ask yourself questions like
>would he do all this stuff if he didnt like/love me enough?

Tldr go on dates and see what happens. And denying sex just for the lulz is childlich. If you pussy aches and you still deny him, you are sort of dumb.
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>>18404015
Also WTF just noticed this

>I generally like a guy
>I want him to seriously, truly care about me and truly love me

You want a guy you GENERALLY LIKE to TRULY LOVE you just because you're so insecure about being pumped and dumped? Speaking as a woman, you are the worst type of woman.
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>>18404017
>If you pussy aches and you still deny him
My pussy doesn't ache as much as I would if I were to get used and hurt. Priorities, dude.
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>>18403974
Truly care, yes. Truly love, you're being childish.
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>>18404021
Sorry anonette, your opinion doesn't matter to me as much as the fact that I don't end up pumped and dumped.
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>>18404027
you won't even get a pumping and dumping with a shit attitude like yours.

consider transitioning and becoming a neckbeard.

because you're worth it.
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>>18404023
>priotrities
Relationships are about MUTUAL trust and respect.

Build them femanon. You are asking same question like dudes with
>how can i tell if my future wife really likes sex and wont cheat me and destroy my life with divorce and alimony in few years?
And the answer is clear. If you dont trust her, dont marry her and consider break up.

Your move now. What are you going to do?
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>>18404030
I care about myself and what is good for me. Other people's opinions that are not in my best interest are pretty much useless at best and harmful at worst. Are you suggesting I should just do whatever others say even though it's not what is good for me, the opposite in fact? That's some pretty bad advice there.
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>>18404033
>Other people's opinions that are not in my best interest are pretty much useless at best and harmful at worst.

confirmation bias much?

wtf are you looking for? please take it /soc/ then.
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>>18404032
I think you're not on the same page as me. Of course if a guy is my husband, it's because I know him well enough to know he isn't going to pull shit like that. But the stage I'm talking about is where a guy is not yet my husband, I haven't even had sex with him yet, I am merely starting to evaluate whether he is worth it or not and considering a possible future relationship, weighing all pros vs cons, and I want to know how can make sure I can I trust him not to use me and hurt me. I'm not a fan of bungee-jumping without all safe precautions first.
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>>18404038
*how can I make sure I can trust him
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>>18403974
>I don't want to get pumped and dumped
Maybe it's the social circles I'm in, but I've never actually met a guy who leads on women just to fuck them and then drop them.
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>>18404044
I see it on the internet all the time.
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>>18404038
That is exactly the same process as proposing girl to marry her. Just the stakes are way higher.

Dating is like playing poker. At start you know nothing and bank is 0. Then you just increase stakes and see the other side reactions. They can bail, call, or raise.

It is cool you being cautious, but you HAVE to risk a bit. I am not telling you to go all in, but you cant stagnate either for too long.

Ask him on dates, ask him questions, let him show you affection, do the same and slowly but surely increase stakes. And no, giving him sex isnt as high stake as you think. Sex is pleasurable for both parties if done right.

>hurt me
Dont worry, girls have this ability to tear boys hearth out and stomp on it too. It is equal risk for both sides.

You will have to risk it. No other way around. Generally speaking dude will ghost you after few dates if his only intention was cum and dump.

>>18404044
I know few of them. Almost chads by 4chan standard. Rich as fuck parents, tall, handsome, dumb and one told me:
She has to give me at least blowjob or i drop her. He was dead serious. And girls love that. He was haggling multiple girlfriends at same time. But all of them were below 20.
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>>18404044
a lot of 4chan OPs recall tales of such events in their life.
e.g
http://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/18371041
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>>18404048
>Ask him on dates
Ok, but what if he isn't interested because I make sure it's not a date that ends up in sex? I don't want to have sex until I am sure I can trust him. Not making sure prior that it isn't a date for sex puts me in a bad spot because he might expect sex when I don't want to do it and he would be right to accuse me of leading him on when I have no intention of doing that.

>giving him sex isnt as high stake as you think
I don't think it anything, I just want to do it on my terms with someone I know I can trust. That might take a long time and men don't seem inclined to wait.

>Sex is pleasurable for both parties if done right
Exactly, doing it before I'm ready makes it impossible to do it right.

>Dont worry, girls have this ability to tear boys hearth out and stomp on it too. It is equal risk for both sides.
I don't think so, a man's age doesn't matter while I'm old already. Sucks. I'd still rather be alone than be with someone who is bad for me.

>Generally speaking dude will ghost you after few dates if his only intention was cum and dump.
Eh if it hurts I'll recluse myself into my anime husbandos to heal myself. Anime husbandos are a life-saver.
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>>18404064
Your post screams insecurity and warped view on relationships all over. Or you are just troll. Whatever.

Why are you so scared? What happened to you? Age? Virgin? Bullied at school? Abused as kid?

>what if he isnt interested
Than he wasnt worthy of your time. That said, what do YOU have to offer to your potentional future husband? Anything more than willing to have sex and children with him?

What exactly do you want boyfriend for?

>mans age doesnt matter
This sounds like you see boys as sperm and money dispensers than actual human beings with emotions and stuff.

What do you want bf for?
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>>18404077
>Bullied at school?
Yep.

>what do YOU have to offer to your potentional future husband?
Depends on what he's looking for. If what he's looking for isn't what I'm looking for, then I have nothing to offer him and he has nothing to offer me.

>What exactly do you want boyfriend for?
Good companionship I guess. To me
good companionship > being alone > bad companionship

I'll take being alone over bad companionship if that's all I find, but I think I should still aspire to good companionship.

>This sounds like you see boys as sperm and money dispensers
I'm quoting men from men's spaces here. Men are desirable at any age, women are generally less desirable after 30. That's the general male consensus from the manosphere.
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>>18404090
Just tell them. Online dating, friends friends, social events whatever.

Tell them on second date that you are shy girl and you wont be able to have sex until you trust them more than little. They will either drop you on the spot, or hang with you anyway. Personally i have no problems with girl not sexing me up on first N dates. Just make sure you have other qualities to make it up for that.

Be honest and direct. And stop being so insecure. Have faith and jump into dating game right now.

Good luck. And forget about that age thing.

T. Nice guy.
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>>18404090
>>Bullied at school?
>Yep.
Damn this single line gave me feels.
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>>18404027
So I see this part of my advice

>Be a valuable and interesting person

just flew right by you.

Considering your other responses, I'm somehow not surprised.

You don't even care whether you love him. Just that your perceived value based on how many dudes have stuffed their junk in your holes doesn't get tarnished. You have no internal substance or value. You're just another useless, braindead *girl.*

If bait, good job, because I fucking hate /pol9k/ and I never talk like this. But goddamn, I mad. I hope you do get pumped and dumped, because if you're real you certainly bring nothing to the table that deserves more than that.
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>>18404116
>Your perceived value based on how many dudes have stuffed their junk in your holes doesn't get tarnished
? I'm still a virgin.

>Be a valuable and interesting person
According to whom? I like myself as I am and I want someone I can be myself with, I don't think a relationship is good if I have to change myself for it. I think such a relationship would be really noxious and the kind of stuff I want to avoid.
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>>18404064
>Ok, but what if he isn't interested because I make sure it's not a date that ends up in sex?

Ok for this very serious and difficult question, I will give the appropriate thought-provoking answer to it.


If said situation really does happen then the solution shall be to show him thy titties.
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>>18404127
He'll take that as an invitation to sex. I've read way too many rants of dudes who mistook far more innocent behavior as an invitation to sex. Don't want to give false hopes.
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>>18404108
Eh I'll give it a try. Thank you. It's good I still have my husbandos to fall back on if nothing works out.
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>>18404140
I am glad i have been able to help. Personally i am still looking for some (a bit insecure) girls like you. So far found only super dumb girls or party sluts or girls who didnt want children.

And now post pic of your husbando so i can see what body (and personality) i have to obtain to compete with husbandos.
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>>18404144
When I say husbandos I mean anime husbandos anon, the good thing about them is that they're not real. They're safe because they're a fantasy and they're satisfying because being a fantasy I can do and be whatever I please without any consequence on my life, as it's not real. it doesn't exist outside my head and I have complete control over it. I don't think you should want to compete with that since it's just plain impossible, rather be a good companion to whatever girl your fancy irl. That's what I want and since I'm nothing special I'm sure it's what millions of other girls want, too. She'll come to have genuine affection for you.
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>>18404158
I see you are nice femanon. The average dumg girls i tried to date wouldnt be able to produce such paragraph even if it smacked them with bag of oranges.

Still you could posted pic of some husbando of yours. Dont tell me you dont have any. I am curious boy, that is all.

One pic is worthy more than million words. And it will show your anime taste.
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>>18404173
>it will show your anime taste
Haha no thanks, I know better than to reveal my powerlevel on 4chan.
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>>18404131
Yes ofc it will be an invitation to sex and how is showing them "innocent behavior"? I guess me walking around with my dick in my hand and twirlling it like a chainwatch is innocent Behavior too.
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>>18404183
Are you kidding me? How do you plan to ever trust some boy if you cant even muster enough courage to show your husbando on 4chan?

Please femanon, i wanna see what makes girl like you hot.
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>>18404194
>how is showing them "innocent behavior"?

>I've read way too many rants of dudes who mistook far more innocent behavior as an invitation to sex

Read what's written, anon. The innocent behavior here is that of girls in plenty of men's rants of being "lead on" when the woman in question had done absolutely nothing that could remotely be construed as an invitation to anything other than being friends.
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>>18404199
Be honest anon, would you trust 4chan with your personal information?
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>>18404210
I posted my face here once to recieve rating. Apparently i am 4~7/10 boy who needs to shave and have new haircut with missing jawline so i will never make it.

And i fail to see how posting your husbandos reveal your personal information. You said it, husbados arent real.
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>>18404217
>I posted my face here once to recieve rating
How you look irl is different from how you look in photos since photos are a static specific moment and static specific moments is not what we see irl. If you want an opinion, it's best to get it irl.

>husbados arent real
Indeed but 4chan is.
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>>18404228
>irl
People are generally too honest to tell you that you are ugly fat fuck with deformed face. Even your friends or family. 4chan has the ability to tell you cold truth with 0 problems.

AND NOW POST YOUR HUSBANDO. This website was created to discuss anime. I promise i wont think lowly of you no matter what it is. I dont even know you.

>i would post my waifu, but i never had one, general random porn was always enough for me

Post your husbando! Pretty please?
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>>18404204
I know but you only show then when you want them to be recognized. Nothing innocent bout it like me walking around with my dick in my hand.

I am glad that you compiled research on dudes. Probably have a whole study filled with your research.
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>>18404131
>>18404204

"Hey let's go out together just us two"

Harry Met Sally. Guys and girls cannot be friends. If a guy is asking a girl out alone for something it's a date.

If you dont' want to lead him on don't go somewhere to do something that requires paying money alone with him.
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>>18404243
>4chan has the ability to tell you cold truth with 0 problems
I wouldn't be so quick to claim that, a lot of people on 4chan just like to troll to kill time or want to be purposely mean to others because it makes them feel better. Sometimes a combination of the two. You shouldn't assume everyone says the truth here, anon.

>NOW POST YOUR HUSBANDO
No. Especially since you seem to think it has any bearing on my tastes irl. It doesn't.
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>>18404021
This
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>>18404270
The most valuable skill you can have is critical thinking. With that you can spot pieces of wisdom and true advice even on places like 4chan.

And i dont have trouble believing people unlike some girl. And when you think you are average and recieve average ratings from multiple anons, chances are very high you and them are right.

Is there anything i can do or tell to make you post your husbando? Please?
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>>18404261
If you dont' want to lead him on don't go somewhere to do something that requires paying money alone with him.

Wow, so men really believe in kindness coins and all that. Amazing.
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>>18404270
>I wouldn't be so quick to claim that, a lot of people on 4chan just like to troll to kill time

Oh that is so true, e.g this thread

It might seem real to you, but to many people it's a waste of time shitpost :)
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>>18404288
And yet you're still replying!
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>>18404293
Not even that anon, but some people like to waste their time.
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>>18404295
So what's there to complain?
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>>18404293
30 s to deliver the truth bby :)
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>>18404298
>incomprehensible shitpost
Okay.
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>>18404285

It's not that we don't care about you. It's not about kindness coins or feeling we're owed something, just don't waste our money if you're not interested in dating us.

We're fine spending money and taking you out if you actually want to be with us, but don't go out with the same guy alone several times if you don't see us as dating material. At that point is when the animosity comes out.
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>>18404299
>incomprehensible

Maybe you're just not equipped to understand.
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>>18404270
Still waiting for that husbando.

Please?
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>>18404307
Maybe your shitpost is just a shitpost.
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>>18404310
You can only win girls by being yourself, anon. If you try to be someone else, you'll hate yourself for it. Nobody wants to be with someone who hates themselves.
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>>18404325
I know that.

But what does that have to do anything with you being uncomfortable to post your husbando?
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>>18404331
>And now post pic of your husbando so i can see what body (and personality) i have to obtain to compete with husbandos
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>>18403974

dont fuck chads
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>>18404335
Common, that was lame joke. I wont fake my personality, that is recipe for disaster.

Please?
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It will happens regardless if you want it or not
Every guy has the power to pump and dump, even the "sweetest" who you will think is your ideal man
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>>18403974

>How do I do that?
You wait till you are ready emotionally, at the very least.

>No religious/alt-right ideas please, those are harmful to me as they go against my interests
That is a shame. Waiting till marriage would be the ultimate test of commitment.
That being said, waiting till you know him well for you will prbly substitute as well.

>I want to have my own (good) money to get myself whatever I want whenever I want which means work is a necessity, since work gives me money, and religion wants to deprive me of a lot of things I want and I love, which again is bad for me and that's not what I want.

That just is NOT true. You have a very narrow view of religion.

You would very much benefit of reading "Occupy the Bible", look up the "Unfundamentalist Christianity" FB page or if you are actually somewhat intelligent look into the works of Rudolf Bultmann, Friedrich Schleiermacher, Paul Tillich, or Pannenberg. If you value a feminist perspective the works of feminist theologians along the lines of Dorothee Sölle and Elisabeth Schüssler-Fiorenza as well.
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>>18404297
Are you joking? Complaining is a great waste of time. Especially angry bitching. Gets the blood pumping and whatnot.
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>>18404345
This, just drop $80 on a magic wand, when you fall in love with someone it's never the person who they really are.
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>>18404064
>Ok, but what if he isn't interested because I make sure it's not a date that ends up in sex?
Then he doesn't fit your criteria, does he?

>>18404090
>I'll take being alone over bad companionship if that's all I find, but I think I should still aspire to good companionship.

What is "good" companionship to you?


>>18404126
>I'm still a virgin.

So when you protect that, be upfront about it.
As well read some good literature on how to have good sex, so you can have that once you have sex.
Preparation is worth it.

And no, porn and hentai don't teach you good sex.

>>18404131
>He'll take that as an invitation to sex.
No, not necessarily. Not if you tell him for example not dropping the lower parts of your clothing is the line for you, where you draw it.
Just be honest about what you want and say it.

>>18404261
>Guys and girls cannot be friends. If a guy is asking a girl out alone for something it's a date.

That is some BS if I have seen some. I have several friends who are girls but I wouldn't want them as "girlfriends".
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>>18403974
Just make sure you're an interesting and kikesbke person beforehand that has more to offer than sex. And let him ask you out, never ask a guy out or be persistent.
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>>18403974
>I generally like a guy
> I want him to seriously, truly care about me and truly love me
That's quite the jump.
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