My wife is talking about having kids soon but I'm still

>>18383677
I think it's just normal as a man to fantasize about girls. Chill down and don't act on it if you could, but if couldn't try to have it done in discretion.

>>18383677
Tell her you still rate people out of 10 and have no business raising children yet, she'll understand.

>>18383686
I don't think this is going to change, I'm 26 and I'm just getting more shallow and picky with age

>Deep down I kind of wish I aimed for a 9-10/10 instead of a 7-8/10

And this, children, is why fucking around damages the likelihood of stable marriages/LTR's.

>>18383708
I never fucked around though

A 9-10/10 will probably leave you if you're uglier than them. But I don't think you should be having children if you're married and are still use a rating system, Jesus fuck.

>>18383685
>encouraging cheating in secret
Truly degenerate

>>18383677
Yes it's normal and it will never stop
your a man, you have a dick

if you leave your wife, and get another one, you'll still fantasize about other women including your ex.....

also if looks are all you care about... you're probably ignoring all of the quality wife material

>>18383677
Every attractive person is a 7/10 when you're in a relationship with them. There is no "9-10/10" that you will find that you're not going to one day think is unattractive. You should appreciate what you have and have a family with your wife. It's time to grow up and stop focusing on sex as the purpose of your life.

>>18383803
I think you're right there. If I date someone more physically attractive they're going to be more demanding like I am now.

>>18383803
This is extremely true but the drop is more drastic for me because I'm a critical bastard.

>>18383777
I guess being open about it is the way forward

>>18383857
Or just divorce or not cheat? It's not that hard anon. If OP grows up, then he probably will appreciate his wife more and keep to himself. Fantasies and infatuations are unavoidable but cheating definitely is.

>>18383869
It's annoying how you have to make compromises in the knowledge that what makes for a marriage partner differs from what makes for a good romance/sex partner

I don't understand why people expect everyone to find a partner who fulfills both roles simultaneously

idfk, I don't have a tendency to look at other women when I'm in a relationship. fuck even when I just like a girl a lot, other women are boring.

it has to get boring to have the same questions over and over on here.

>>18383708
Woman would already cheat/switch in your place without much remorse.

Your choice. Although if she is much lower than you, she is not that likely to cheat so that's better for LTR.

>>18383896
There is no arguing with your degeneracy. Most people marry because they're satisfied with their partner as a whole. This is a universally accepted idea. What's the put of committing to someone and marrying them if you're going to cheat on them?

>>18383902
I am in love with my gf (for real, want to marry this one)
I also want to fuck 60% of what I see on a daily fucking basis (no exaggeration) thats alot of people considering public transport and all

but I wont, cause I love this one

>>18383911
Actually the majority of people in history have gotten married for reasons other than love and sex I think.

The upper classes have always had mistresses and concubines. Only the poorer classes didn't have the time/money for it.

>>18383911
>Most people marry because they're satisfied with their partner as a whole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

>50% or more divorce statistics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8byGFryWQRU

OP already lost by getting married. Now try to have a happy life in unfulfilled relationship.

>>18383920
Yeah, because the upper class needed children to pass down their legacy and fortune to. Women were also berated for cheating at the time, moreso than men. People now don't settle down as much because they can't find a suitable partner for themselves, y'know, so they don't cheat.

>>18383921
People typically marry their partner because they love or loved them? Why else would you marry someone in this day and age? If you're not feeling it anymore then just divorce. It's really not that hard. In fact, it's completely your preference to stay a single and date on and off for casual sex and there's nothing wrong with that. But you shouldn't cheat on people that you make a commitment to. Again, this is another universally accepted idea and I don't know why this is hard for some people to grasp. People divorce for a number of reasons such as finances, cheating, and just other differences.

>>18383915
mate I really don't give a fuck. you don't have to be so defensive about it.

>>18383696
Unfortunately your pool of options is going to dwindle at the same rate, mate. This grass is greener bullshit you are spouting is just self centered narcissism. You are with someone you felt close enough with to want to marry, how about you appreciate and give that more respect than the thought of fucking random, STD ridden women who couldn't give two shits about you?

>>18383949
I wasn't being defensive, just expressing a different point

the internet doesn't translate tone very well.
I guess my point was, its what you do that matters

>>18383677
Keep in mind that one in 4 children are not the biological child of the man who believes he is the father.

>>18383966
you don't have to convince me man.

>>18383941
This post, intentionally or not, lays out why marriage is basically a meme at this point.

>If you're not feeling it anymore then just divorce
What are vows? Under this logic, why even get married in the first place? If you're going to treat the vows and covenants with such cavalier regard, the marriage is utterly meaningless from the outset, little more than an expensive party, a tribute to female narcissism, and wagering said female no less than half of your net worth she'll never tire of you.

>>18383957
Male value increases with age, men can look very attractive well into their 40s; OP just caught on too early to marriage's meme status, and how ridiculous the idea of long-term monogamy is.

>>18383803
This, pretty much. OP if your wife loves and respects you, that's a rare thing, and I suggest you stay with her, have kids *when you're ready* and have casual flings on the side with 20-25 year girls as needed.

If you're searching for some socially acceptable solution to your issues, let me save you some time: you won't find any. Puritanical nonsense is the foundation of American society, that's why so many of our laws and customs are hypocritical, contrary to human nature, and self-defeating.

Your wife is your wife, she should be the only woman you are seen with publicly, but your desire to fuck hot, young women is completely natural, and fulfilling said desire is essential to your well being, for this very reason men have kept mistresses.

Research how to be discrete with dating apps and the like, and have fun.

>>18385087
>Male value increases with age, men can look very attractive well into their 40s
Stop propagating this stereotype. Yes there are men who look amazing in their forties, and those as well as men who just look good and made a sweet life for themselves will be popular among the girls who like to date older men. Even in that best case scenario, the sexy older man is a more appealing option to have a fling with than to build towards a future with, though, especially for young girls who are still wrapped up in discovering life and ultimately want to be with someone who has the same happy go lucky mindset, not a faux father figure.

But what's more important, your average guy is NOT more attractive with some balding, some wrinkles and a slowed down metabolism. This is part of why men like George Clooney are adored so much, because of how rare it is for a man his age to still look that good. It is harder to stay in shape, your skin loses elasticity, boners get less hard less easily and so on. None of that is exactly inherently attractive.

>>18383677
Totally normal. Start fucking bitches now because then you have to fuck bitches while kids crying in other room

>>18383677
This is one of the things thats wrong getting married. Youre tied yourself with 1 girl forever, never to fuck new pussy again without fucking yourself over.

>>18385097
>Even in that best case scenario, the sexy older man is a more appealing option to have a fling with than to build towards a future with
Who said anything about building a future? I can do that on my own; I just want to fuck cute girls. This whole "having 100% ownership of my wealth, estate, and assets, and unconditional self-agency" thing is pretty cash, anon.

>But what's more important, your average guy is NOT more attractive with some balding, some wrinkles and a slowed down metabolism
True, but the average guy doesn't put much thought into his diet, nor does he work out. I basically live off dark greens, legumes, fish, and organic cereals, and hit the gym five days a week, *and* men in my family don't bald.

If 90% of your calorie intake is processed carbs, if climbing a set of stairs winds you, and/or you've inherited the cuck hair gene, then by all means settle down with the best you can get and hope she doesn't fuck around on you.

>It is harder to stay in shape
True, but if you're already in great shape then you just keep eating well and maintaining what you've already got.

>boners get less hard less easily
Easily mitigated by staying in shape, staying hydrated, and staying sexually active. All else fails, there's always Viagra.

>>18385128
>Who said anything about building a future?
OP does not seem to mind the idea of committing, other than wanting to do so with a woman he finds hotter.

There are a number of things you can do to impact the aging process but at the end of the day, genes get the last say. Not to mention that even if it is technically possible, most of the guys on here do not exactly have the discipline to live that kind of lifestyle.

It's great for you if you do, and if you rock being a silver fox, but the idea that a guy like OP can just sit on his ass letting time pass by without a care in the world because he will magically get more attractive as he gets older is nonsense.

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>>18383677
>Is it normal to be attracted to people you find attractive
My wife still fantasizes about Marilyn Manson in his prime. Similar to how I have the hots for Scarlet Johansson

It doesnt mean anything. Our brains are wired to want what's attractive. It doesn't turn off when you get into a relationship.

>>18385140
I'm giving OP a path, he's gotta walk it, man.

As far as wanting to commit to a hotter chick, that's a dragon he'll never catch; there's always someone hotter.

honestly any girl you will ever date will feel like a '6' once you've banged her too many times.

you get over how ugly the ugly girl is and you get over how hot the hot girl is and while you can acknowledge their beauty objectively your body just stops caring.