Hey /adv/ I was hoping someone could offer advice to help me

Like, a religious or ideological one? Or you want me to tell you that you can still become an astronaut or summit? I kinda get what you're asking but it's too vague for any legitimate advice.

>>18325219
every human person has a will to live, you have either
1. lost it in some way (bad things happening in your life)
2. have depression or other psychological issues

so why don't you tell us a little bit more about yourself if you want any help

>>18325229
I don't know. It is vague. And no, I can become whatever I want to be, but the reason for doing so eludes me. I used to want to perform physics for a lofty ideal but I saw the unreasonableness of it and now I'm sitting here wondering why aside from my own singular life experience which is cool in and of itself, but I want something more than just pussy money and fame for the sake of pussy money and fame.

>>18325259
Do you have any close friends? Any family you're close to? Get some, reasons for helping people will come with that. Get a job too if you don't have one yet. A job can help with getting friends and giving you a sense of purpose and direction.

>>18325247
I'm 22. I spend most of my free time reading and wondering about everything. Even in interactions with people I check their and my intentions, what I know previously about them, things I glean from them, and never really come clean about it. I sit there and analyze hoping I can feel some form of safety with them. It happens rarely though. The safety isn't meeting smiley positive people. I feel safety in someone when they're pissed and I am certain of it but I know I do the same especially when I feel like I am not interested in most of the conversations. I fret about what kind of person that makes me. So I'm also paranoid deeply and universally. Not the kill someone paranoia but that scratching in your head sort.

>>18325259
Perform physics for a lofty ideal? Don't completely follow but I think I get the gist.

Well, if you're looking for practical direction >>18325264 is sound advice. If you're looking for philosophical reasons there's plenty of literature out there to take a look at.

Not sure if we're on the same page yet though.

>>18325287
Well, that just makes it sound like you don't trust people after giving up the idealistic goals you set.

>>18325264
Not essentially for both friends and family. I'm friends with one friend who I write stories with but there seems to be some distance between us. Which is cool because I'm not really missing anything that I can notice since I don't know him. I work at an elementary school and the cone there seems petty or otherwise arm's length. I don't feel I have much to offer in regards to anything beyond acquaintances with my coworkers. Something just doesn't gel with me in feeling with most of them. And the kids give me constant trouble (I like it as it helps me cope in different situations) so I'm not always in the best mood or if I am I'm thinking about how better to teach my lessons to each group more efficiently or in a better manner or feeling anxious and knowing I'm awkward and slowly working through it with a joke here a conversation there.

>>18325303
And that kinda makes it sound like a hobby would do wonders for you.

>>18325295
The lofty ideal would be, since, from what I've read and experienced , the abundance and lack of real actual uniting conflict is detrimental and somehow figuring out space travel would aid in unification under the banner of "hey guys let's go see what the fuck is out there!". Or at least form or join an entity that would perform said exploration.
Any books you would recommend? Maybe something concrete with evidence? If not something that sheds light on what philisophies permeate society presently.

>>18325313
Haha yes yes.
I don't feel right having a hobby just to have. It feels too idle. I want my hobby to accomplish something for me. But without a base, which used to be people pleasing, fame and heroism, I'm shit out of luck. I'm not mythical or a genius and I wanted to reach for the stars but I wasn't born with long enough arms. So what do I do with my arms is my chief concern.

>>18325327
Concrete with evidence on... what to live for? No, can't say as I do.

Inasmuch as what permeates us philosophically today, there may be insight to be found on why things are moving the way are, but I don't know if that's what you mean.

If you're interested in modern science and its possible philosophical,moral, political, etc... ramifications in the betterment of humanity have you looked into transhumanist work or its criticisms at all? In my opinion it's something that actually matters, but I dunno you bruh.

To not leave you hanging, briefly, transhumanism is the idea that humans and machines should evolve together, and many detractors of the movement/philosophy counter that machines should be used almost exclusively to 'take care' of humanity, and/or that transhumanism would be an existential/kafkaesque/whatever nightmare.

I dunno what you want to read about though.
So.

>>18325349
Sorry, concrete as in scientifically concrete. Like origins of the species or the red queen. There must be books out there about recent scientific finding that trump or imrpove on concepts and theories but I do not trust Google with this or my own request I'll worded and incomplete as it will be.
Any transhumanist works in particular?

>>18325349
And yes to why things are moving as they are. I've heard of post modernism but I don't know what comes after that. And I don't know if I do want to read post modernist works.

>>18325373
I guess for a relatively newer perspective there's "The Transhumanist Wager" by Zoltan Istvan. But that's kind of on the odder outer end of the spectrum and not all Transhumanist work focuses on the theme of attaining immortality/transcendence. It's a fictional work if that turns you off, but there's a ridiculous amount of Sci-fi out there already that deals with transhumanist themes.

Once you get into transhumanist nonfiction now we're talking about people's scientific work involving nanomedicine, nanorobotics, consciousness uploading, stem cell research, body modifications, or on the more political end there are arguments for socialistic transhumanism and libertarian transhumanism.

So I guess you're more or less looking for hard sci-fi or books on human/machine development.

>>18325377
Postmodernism essentially advocates moral relativism, and declares that objective knowledge and/or truth are relative and open to interpretation based on ones own personal experiences. In theory nothing comes 'after' post modernism but perhaps I misunderstand on that account.

>>18325409
Not at all. I didn't know if anything came after postmodernism. I'll look into it thank you.

>>18325399
Yes and yes. I'll look into transhumanism. It doesn't really solve my problem of why but I think it might be a good place to continue looking thank you.

>>18325409
Wait I have a question about objective knowledge and how postmodernism ascribes a relative nature to it. Does that mean to say that methods such as math are relative from person to person, in theory?

>>18325433
Well, feel free to google "University of Cape Town movement says witchcraft is no less valid than Isaac Newton's theory of gravity."

So, I mean, yes. Usually you don't see anything that ridiculous though. It's usually more along the lines that true postmodernists believe nothing is intrinsically more moral or correct than anything else. Which really doesn't help my point, but I guess I'm trying to say it's not usually taken as far as my example. Modern gender theory also came out of postmodernist schools of thought, as I understand it, if that makes more sense of it?

Let's see when you're bored you can.
Get laid/watch porn
Play a video game or a real sport
Watch TV
Read
I would say nap but in your case you would probably sleep waaaaaaaay too much to pass the time.
Watch Youtube videos.
Or just killyourself and live-steam it.
You'll probably become a creepypasta or on the cover on a metalband. Least make your suicide interesting.

>>18325451
Hahaha I would sleep away most of my life if I could. Unfortunately with needing to work I can't be taken care of anymore so I need a certain and rock strong direction.
Maybe I can invent a machine that transfers my consciousness to a new person once I hit 18 and continue that ad infinitum haha

>>18325448
Maybe? I haven't really gone into gender theory but, penis and vagina.
Or better yet sperm and ovaries.
Without basic biological shift from male to female the implementation of it seems moot to me. Not to put down the concepts people have of themselves regarding what gender they might feel more comfortable in or deserving of. That kind of self-questioning and follow through is interesting and the feeuutuure maaan. I'll have a look into postmodernism.

>>18325498
A'ight. It's everywhere though, and tied in with marxism frequently, and not for nothing. Keep in mind gender=/=sex. Gender wasn't even a term people used or a thing people thought about until John Money wrote about the freakish David Reimer incident and coined it as a social construct and not something innately physical. That whole experiment was seriously fucked up and a complete failure.

>>18325506
Holy shit he killed himself.
Maybe the experiment might have fared better without Moneys insistence. And he was stuck with not the most mentally healthy twins it seems.
How sad that all is.

>>18325530
Well, possibly, but regardless, Money's theory of gender is the predominant one today, despite the objective truth of what he did, which is somewhere in-between inconclusive based on sample size and utter failure considering the final outcome.

Don't find myself to be big on postmodernist philosophy though, I find most of it at the very least counter-productive and at worst reprehensible.

>>18325548
It is???
What the fuck

Looks like op is so down he's samefagging.
I don't know my own reason for living so good luck I guess.

>>18325573
Yes, he defined gender roles as "all those things that a person says or does to disclose himself or herself as having the status of boy or man, girl or woman, respectively. It includes, but is not restricted to sexuality in the sense of eroticism. Gender role is appraised in relation to the following: general mannerisms, deportment and demeanor; play preferences and recreational interests; spontaneous topics of talk in unprompted conversation and casual comment; content of dreams, daydreams and fantasies; replies to oblique inquiries and projective tests; evidence of erotic practices, and, finally, the person's own replies to direct inquiry."

Once again important to note that this when when 'sex' and 'gender' were first separated, it evolved, as ideas tend to over time, and now we have whatever this nonbinary genderqueer genderpunk stuff is. But for now I digress, shit's an awful rabbit hole to go through in much more detail then that. Good luck and remember that scientific pursuit of objective truth and modern predominant postmodern philosophies are at odds against each other in a horrible way. Hopefully I gave you something to think about, best of luck.

>>18325219
My approach is altruism. I know that with my nihilism I could never make myself wish to live, so I take advantage of the emotional responses given to me by people when they see what I did. "Oh anon, that's so sweet! I'm glad you devote your life to a good cause!" You know, shit like that. Any other type of pleasure slowly dies out because it gets repetitive, so don't turn to video games, drugs, alcohol, or any trivial things to cope. Emotional highs from praise by people with wills to live tops everything.

>>18325596
That you did. Thank you.