Is my friend lying to me so I won't try and date her friend?

>>18322742
Tl;dr
P/s I can't understand your story. Try to write it more clear

>>18322749

not op, but it seems like OP wants to date A's friend, B. OP asks A if B is single, A avoids question. A then tells OP that B has a girlfriend, ad insinuating that B is a guy (all of a sudden, even though A was previously referring to B as "her/she") and A states she didn't know OP was into guys. OP is very confused, as everyone has referred to B as a girl this entire time, now A is saying B is a guy with a girlfriend.

OP, she's lying, and it's a really weird thing to lie about. A should have just came right out and said she likes you and just doesn't want you talking to her friends.

>>18322749
TLDR
Asked friend A if friend B has a boyfriend, friend A says she's actually a guy and has a girlfriend. Is she lying or is friend B making her lie?

>>18322761
OP here
Thanks for making my post much clearer. A isn't into me, already tried asking her out and she said no. The thing is I have this inkling that B is in kahoots with A, thus telling A to lie to me so I won't try and make a move on her (B).

>>18322742
Have you considered the fact that B is actually a guy? Do you have any proof that s/he isn't?

>>18322772

Fuck it, ask B out directly.

>>18322776
Yes I have and no I have no proof other than A always referring to B using her and she e.g. 'Did you see B's new pixie cut? It looks so bad on her' or 'She has places to go'. What makes this fishy is that only when I've made known to A that I'm interested in B she suddenly says B is a boy. I'n going to try and clear this up later when I see A, and hopefully B will be with her.

>>18322779
Need his/her/it's number first and I really don't want to accidentally date a dude

>>18322790
Why the hell would you ask someone to introduce their friend to you without knowing their gender? It's not like it's a blind date since you're interested in B. So what the hell. Ask B yourself

>>18322790
Look at the Adam's apple, hands, feet.

>>18322794
I can't, I rarely see him/her and I have no way of contacting B unless through A. Trust me I would ask B directly but I am literally physically incapable and I never asked A to introduce me. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't trying score when the game's already finished

>>18322801
Next time I see B, I'll take note

>>18322803
So you don't even see her/him face? Are you into boyish-girl. Then why the hell do you interested in someone you can't even tell if they are man or woman

>>18322812
She is boyish-girl if she is a girl, but it's more girl than boy. I have seen her irl and talked with her for what I can approximate is less than 5 minutes. She has the physique of a girl and short for a boy (likely 5'3" - 5'5") and breasts I can't tell since it wears jumpers whenever I see it. I haven't had any doubts about B being a boy until now mind you, I saw no false flags or signs of a boy.

>>18322822
Then it would be two possibilities.
First: A into B
Second: A into you.

But since you said you tried asking A out before then it must be A which is more understandable since B is kind of a boyish girl

Also I need some clever questions to ask B (or even A) to get a definite answer of their gender. Something that would trick A or inconspicuously cause B to answer to her/his gender (or trick B if s/he's in on it too)

>>18322837
Are you saying A could be a lesbian? I'm sorry I'm a little lost

>>18322851
Yeah sorry I mistyped. It's possible since A doesn't want to introduce you to B and also referred B to be a man abd that having a gf (which might even be A)

>>18322862
Possibly

OR OR no one likes anyone, especially not you OP?

>>18323431
Yeah but I want to know if my friend is lying.

>>18322742
Reply 'liking traps isn't gay'