When I was a virgin in high school I had a goal of fucking 50

nah I am just a virgin wishing for Jesus to send ass my way

Same boat. I have slept with 19 women. I'm 23.
>Had my heart broken at the age of 21
>She was the 7th person I had sex with
>Coped by hooking up

For me, I saw myself as an alpha male and started to become very picky, I would turn down a lot of women. Recently started a serious relationship with someone who I felt a good connection with.

>>18296599

If you are simply setting a goal to have sex with # women you obviously won't find any decent ones unless you also win the lottery every month. You're purely going on looks and attractiveness in random women you meet.

I've had a period of 6 months between my previous girlfriend, who left me, and my current gf (or soon to be ex or whatever since things are going to shit right now) during which I had sex with 39 different women. All it does is boost your ego for a very short amount of time, only to wake up in disgust the next morning and having to walk of shame yourself back to your own place. Honesly if you're a student with decent looks and proper clothes it is not even something to be proud of. Every crowded club and bar has a decent amount of women who are horny or drunk and will go home with any assertive guy making moves on them.

There are however also many women with values and a lot of them are worth investing more time in. My advice would be to avoid having sex with girls you genuinely are interested in. Ask them out, date them, talk hours and hours with them and get to know them. Kiss them if you are really developing feelings after all that and the sex will follow at some point, at least if the feelings are mutual.

I know it sounds traditional and silly but imo it is the only way to really find someone you can have a proper relationship. It will also change your view on women in general.

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>>18296626
>>18296628
What a world. I'm a 24-year-old virgin.

>>18296626
I also got fucked over a few times which is what I think led to my current way of thinking. Does being in a serious relationship help with this? Did you find it difficult to get into one if you were willing to walk away and not get attached?

>>18296628
It doesn't sound silly, I appreciate the feedback. I know 10 isn't a lot, I actually consider it quite low as to what it should be but I just wanted to give an idea of where I was. Did you find that waiting to get physical created a more substantial relationship? Should I avoid it if the woman is pushing for it and I want to wait?

>>18296636
It's all about confidence. Don't be scared of rejection if you want to lose your virginity.

>>18296644
Confidence gets thrown around so much that it's lost its meaning.

>>18296645
Because it's true. I would walk around public places and come home with at least 5 phone numbers. Can't be scared of rejection.

>>18296658
But not fearing rejection doesn't mean the exact same thing as confidence. You can be shy as fuck but not be afraid of rejection.

>>18296643
It is actually happening to me right now (guy from the longer post you replied to).

I even made a thread about it on Advice which lasted for like week and had hundreds of posts. I've been in a relationship for 7 years but the last few years have been insanely hard to deal with as my gf has been in a burnout / depression and all the weight of it got put on me non-stop. Probably somewhere in the archives. I have a printed version in a vault to reread when I'm feeling bad.

Recently I got to know a new girl (or well, actually a girl from my student times who I always considered the prettiest girl I have ever seen but never really talked to her or asked her out).

I didn't want to destroy my relationship out of nowhere so I just talked to her for at least 50 hours and only after that realized and decided that this girl would really be something for me in a real long-term committed relationship.

We took things slow and I still have to properly deal with the current break-up but I have never had so strong feelings about someone before in my life. You don't get that by taking home random chicks from a bar the first them you meet them.

>>18296658
Getting phone numbers is stupid if you just want sex.

You know what works, even if you're like average looking?

Just walk up to the girl you like and be as assertive as possible.
Most girls I picked up during the time mentioned in >>18296628 involved something in the likes of me walking past them and ostentatively walking backwards back up to her and telling the girl that I just "have to know who she is and can't just walk past".

After that you of course need to have some game but generally they will already be convinced at that point that you're alpha and worth going for that night (obviously only if they happen to be single and not in some emo-demented mode).

Women like men who take initiative. Probably won't work for manlets or fat people every time but I'm convinced even they can get a different chick every night like that if they try it a dozen times.

>>18296669
Nah, you'll come off as creepy and/or desperate if you're less than average and try that.

>>18296671
I'd say the trick is that you have to find the correct ratio between the time at night and your looks then. That and being realistic about the type of girl you approach.

A less than average guy probably won't be able to pull it off before 3 AM when everyone is pretty drunk.

Hell I bet that if you have no standards as an ugly fuck you'll still be able to pick up one of those random 4/10 random girls who stay until the club closes at 5 AM because they just want to fuck someone that night.

>>18296661
You're right, I am missing out on really getting to know a girl since I tend to cut off contact after having sex with them. You know as well as most guys who have been with a few girls the ugly side of women that you become exposed to. You've seen how willing they are to lie and the horrible acts they commit without giving it a second thought. How do you deal with this when deciding to place your trust in a female and develop a relationship with her? Do you accept it as a possible risk or do you try to find one that you believe is different from the rest?

Hahaha was on the same boat. Lost my virginity age 16. Now i'm 18 and I've lost count of how many girls i've been with.

My advice:
Stop doing that. Don't have sex with girls just for fun. It truly does get lonely. The solution is to find a really nice girl & you've got to impress her. These "nice" girls will be extremely rare & extremely hard to fuck lol. They aren't "easy". But nothing good comes easy. So find a nice girl and get into a relationship, it's the nicest feeling in the world.

>>18296696
Then why would YOU try to fuck so many?

Also since when is /adv/ Chad central?

>>18296681
You don't really take much of a risk at all when you talk to them first and make sure you get to know them.
I can't really help you on how you meet that kind of women but I doubt clubs/bars are the best place to do so, but its not impossible.

This new girl I met got invited by friends of mine to my birthday dinner because she just got back from working abroad for a few years and wanted to meet new people when she got back. You probably want to get involved in more social activities (aside from going out) and put yourself out there a bit. We ended

Anyways, aside from how you meet them, you're always going to have to take a risk at some point. You don't build up a relationship or even a pre-relationship without exposing yourself and showing that you're willing to commit. The difference is that during hours and hours of talking, they will make mistakes in case they are manipulative liars (unless they are insanely good at it and/or you're just bad at estimating people).

Literally all my friends and even random people feel as if I've been together with this new girl for 10 years, simply because we have talked so much to eachother and because it feels we know eachother so well. It's really the best foundation to start someting on.

Sorry if my thoughts are flying around a bit here. There's a lot of shit going on right now, aside from the above (because there's an ex involved in my case who's still around aka living in my apartment while I moved

BC it feels good at the time, but you obviously wouldn't know you twatnoob

>>18296700
You don't have to be Chad to pull that off.
Also, the answer is ego and hormones, simple as that.

Some people will be stuck in it for decades and end up miserable (or sometimes even happy if that lifestyle is really what you want). At least OP realizes that it is a dead-end if you want to have something as precious as a real relationship in your life.

>>18296700
twatnoob

i don't know how you expect anyone to believe you

>>18296706
exactly.

>>18296706
Fucking a lot of girls makes you Chad regardless of your looks or anything else, learn2virginterminology

>>18296706
so basically don't have sex with girls and just get to know them and stay with the good ones

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>>18296696
How do you differentiate between a girl that looks nice and is really a whore and one that is genuine and a good person? So many of these girls that appear to be the ones you describe are just as bad as sluts.

>>18296702
Thanks for the advice, Anon. I will definitely try out trying to establish more meaningful connections with women. Almost all of my interactions have been surface level so it probably is my fault that I haven't found anything of substance. I hope everything works out and you get shit sorted out.

>>18296700
Same reason any guy wants to fuck a lot of women. Most guys mistakenly think that just fucking women will bring the happiness that is absent from their lives. For some men this does work but for others it doesn't. You only find out by going out and testing it out.

>>18296700
as someone who has been browsing 4chan for too long.

people usually make threads like "i fucked a million woman i feel badz xD" and idiots like you tap them on the back.
there are usually threads like "i fucked my gf mom and they both want to fuck me now. what do xD".
you should really sort things and be careful about what you read

>>18296724
you can usually tell by the topics of what a girl talks about. if she talks about drinking/drugs/parties... shes a whore. She talks anything of substance, she might be a good girl.

But there are some whores disguised as nice girls. Usually can be uncovered by asking if they can pay the bill on a date. Don't try this on the first date but maybe on the 3rd or 4th. simply claim that you left your wallet at home & ask if she can pay for you. let it be something cheap. If she flips, shes a snake. If not shes a keeper

>>18296731
Also, how I keep myself from becoming resentful of women? It seems most women are superficial and morally vile creatures without any concept of loyalty or honor. Obviously not every girl is like this but there are so many that are that it has ruined my perception of women overall. I sound like a bitter virgin but it's been wearing on me and hurting my relationships with women for some time now. How did you get over this?

>>18296737
if she's a nice girl you won't resent her. i'm telling you, nice girls are rare. maybe if you resent them and see them as superficial, they're not nice girls. Find a girl who's not superficial

>>18296716

My apologies I will update my knowledge no virgindictionary dot com as soon as possible.

Aside from that, I feel that it doesn't matter, as even "Chads" who fuck a lot of women can have questions, be in need of advice or feel insecure about choices he has to make.


At the odds of making everyone mad: I am probably in the 0.1% of best looking guys around and I run my own succesful company on top of that. I drive a luxury car at the age of 27 and I own a mortgage-free 250m2 loft here in Belgium (where my ex lives for now since I feel like I cant just kick her out in a few days after breaking up with her).

Everyone around me thinks I'm the happiest and most succesful guy they know but I am in fact scared shitless when it is about making relationship choices.

So yeah, maybe this thread is Chad-central but it should no really matter unless they add a disclaimer to the board.

P.S. anyone else getting non-stop connection errors when trying to post?

>>18296719

Pretty much unless you are feeling ok with just having sex. That is also not bad per se. You just have to figure out first for yourself what you really want at the moment and then commit to either choice you make until things change.

>>18296731
The good girls will literally offer to pay on the first or second date or at least offer to pay their own share.

You should not have to ask them for it.

>>18296731
>>18296753

P.S. you then answer that it is fine and you will take care of it unless she keeps insisting.

>>18296753
yeah that's true, but nice girls are a rarity now. especially in california where most girls think they're celebrities. usually finding a nice girl takes looking.

>>18296737
The only way to do that is to accept (from us I guess) that good women do exist. You might be unlucky for a while but if you keep at it there's no doubt you'll meet someone worth it.

It is not different when it comes to men. Most of them, pretty obvious if you read this board, are complete retards too with no standards or ethics.

Not being like them already puts you above the masses.

>>18296763
Most guys can't afford to have standards.

>>18296760
if she insists, then she should be a pretty nice girl. but it's more then that. traits you want to look for in a nice girl is someone who's caring, good hearted, literally someone who's the definition of nice. a bitch is a bitch. bitches are mostly whores as well.

>>18296761
I don't know California well-enough. I was in Palo Alto for business a couple of weeks ago and decided to go out in Mountain View.

One club was 100% Asian and the other was 100% Mexican (which doesn't have to be bad per se but they will talk to dem white bois for the wrong reasons only it seems). The bouncer at the Asian club even admitted that half of the girls were probably escorts or hookers.

So yeah, maybe I went to the wrong place not knowing the area but I was absolutely disgusted lol.

I however can't imagine that there aren't any good girls left, especially if you live near a major city like San Francisco or LA.

>>18296766

The new girl I met seems genuinely nice up to the extent that /pol/ would love her for wanting to start a family with 4 children and take care of me for the rest of her life. Obviously she also proposed to pay and has been paying once in a while when we go out (on the other hand she doesn't mind that I like being the traditional guy that pays for most stuff we do together, hold the door open for her etc). It is scary as fuck though. I don't know whether I am ready for that. But I shouldn't hijack the thread.

>>18296765

Sure they can. That is just a lame excuse to avoid getting hurt or putting in some effort.

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>>18296770
There aren't enough good, attractive women to go around.

Or women at all for that matter.

>I made it my goal to have shallow use-and-discard sex with 50 people
>why are women such vapid creatures
talk about pot calling the kettle black

>>18296778
This. Imagine if the genders were reversed.

>>18296774
If I don't misinterpret the map it says there are like 15% more single men than women.

That puts you at a disadvantage but I do not think it means that you can not find attractive girls worth your time.

Not everything in life has to be easy.

>>18296767
I mean, most of the good girls are taken. and i do live in LA. for example, say i've got 200 people in my lecture hall. 100 girls, 50 of them will be bitches. 30 of them will be whores. and only 20 of them will be good girls. but 10 of them are in relationships already so only 10/100 girls are nice and single too.

>>18296770
what's so scary?

>>18296778
>>18296781
Thats fair
I stopped pursing that goal last year though. So there has been a period of trying to find something meaningful but that was a good point

>>18296783
>whores

Like you?

>>18296783
Its scary because everything feels so well but I only just got out of a 7 year relationship. Due to the fact that I talked so insanely much (probably upwards of 200 hours in the last 2 months) with this new girl, things have gone extremely fast when it comes to feelings, while extremely slow (for modern standards) in terms of kissing, sex and so on.

It is just scary that you can apparantly decide that you want to be pregnant of a guy you have only known for 2 months within a year from now and build up a life together. I think I want that too but I might be too cloudy in my brain right now due to everything that happened in the last months to make the right call. I sometimes feel I should be single for at least a month first and then decide but that of course makes me scared shitless that she might no longer be around after that.

Also your other point (same poster): 10% is hard but quite alright. It will of course take some time but if you get better at spotting bitches, whores and people in a relationship you won't waste much time on them.

But yeah, it is always going to be a huge investment of time and exposing yourself to some pain.

>>18296796
oh yeah i see what you mean. you can stay in the relationship but don't get feelings too deep. some girls know how to play with guy's minds. some girls are just as good as special forces operators. know how to tell the perfect lies lol. make sure to be on top of the girl's subtle mind games and make sure you aren't doing anything your gut doesn't want you to do.

>>18296792
I'm sorry, you must be a girl. sorry for calling you sex whores

>>18296792
sorry for calling your sex "whores"

>>18296805
Not a girl, just find it funny you probably wouldn't seriously date a girl who's had as many partners as you.

>>18296805
I am already in deeper than I have ever been. It feels like a fairy tale right now and beyond that. I never believed in meant-to-be bullshit but this is just so amazing how we connect so well in such short time.

I think I would know if she was a special forces operator as I used to be that kind of guy too. I know exactly how to push the right buttons and manipulate girls into liking/loving me. However in this case I have been 100% honest and transparent from day 1 (including telling her that I was still in a relationship etc).

Only thing is that she is extremely insecure and afraid I will go back to my girlfriend at some point which sometimes makes her say extremely hurtful things. She tells me its a defensive mechanism...

>>18296811
Honestly I personally would not even mind that, at least if she's free of diseases and she hasn't been fucking that many guys in the past few years.

Everyone, both men and women can have an experimental fucked up phase during college or whatever and have sex with a ton of people. It really doesn't say much about how they will act when they become real adults.

>>18296811
trials and tribulations, let's say i'm not a whore anymore. i'm a nice guy now xD

>>18296816
shit man be careful. when it's a fairy tail it really is scary. I feel you. just try to protect your feelings that's all i can say. one thing to ask yourself is if you've ever felt the "mean-to-be" thing before in any other past girls. Because I know I have a few ex's that felt perfect in the beginning. But things usually change within a year. If you're really lucky she might be the one, but usually nothing good lasts forever. also, the early signs of her saying hurtful things is bad. but i'm not discouraging you from her, just waring you to protect your feelings. I know the fairy tail feeling and there's a 50% chance it'll end in heartbreak.

>>18296829
>trials and tribulations, let's say i'm not a whore anymore.

What does this even mean? Would you or would you not?

>>18296829
I have never felt this way about anyone. Ever.
It has been two months so the most extreme "madly in love" feelings have changed. I already really care about her because of the amount of time we talked about everything there is in life.

Thing is, I don't even mind that it might end in heartbreak. Or well, I mean I do mind and I'd be devastated but I am surely willing to take that risk.

I just don't know when she will actually be convinced that I wont go back to my ex. That's kind of why I'm considering, even though it is killing me, to tell her I will be single for a month first without seeing her, to show her that even without being with her, I won't go back to my ex. If that makes any sense at all.

>>18296833
>>18296818
trial's and tribulations meaning what the above mentioned person said "Everyone, both men and women can have an experimental fucked up phase during college or whatever" meaning that i've done things and learned from it.

ya i was a whore but i'm not anymore. understand?

>>18296840
nooo don't do that. don't do the single for one month thing. just build her trust and let time pass by. i think if you do the single for one month thing you might damage things. maybe just stay how you are right now and let her feelings for you grow.

>>18296849
I don't think there is any other option because she has been having breakdowns now and then with shorter and shorter intervals during which she believes that I will go back to my girlfriend and that she will end up heartbroken and that she does not know what to do because she already started loving me etc etc.

It baffled me how such an independent, smart girl can go so deep emotionally over this. I left my girlfriend, I moved out, I haven't even seen her for weeks but due to mostly logistical reasons I can't just kick her out of the appartment we lived in for years.

I also am not in a fight with my ex. We talked things over and agreed it was for the better. I can't just act all mean and senseless to her now just to prove to this new girl that it is all over.

>>18296857
i mean i guess, but hopefully the fact that you even propose being single for a month will change the girl your current girls mind. cause it honestly would suck to do the single for a month thing. hopefully she realizes that you won't go back to your ex. best of luck though.

>>18296861

Oh trust me it sucks to the point that I decided last Thursday to go on a 4 day hiking trip in the middle of nowhere in Germany just to be away from everything.

Even there, in the middle of pitch black fucking woods I kept on thinking about how much I am already missing her and will miss her during that month.

But I really feel it is the only way to ever have a chance of starting a relationship with her based on 100% trust. If she's no longer around or available in a month I suppose it all was not as special for her as it was for me.

God damn this is going to be so painful.

>>18296864
fuck yeah it is. i hope it's worth it. you may be subjecting yourself to pain that isn't needed. relationship should be based on trust. if you're an ex-special forces guy xD, maybe try saying things that will make her trust you more

>>18296867
That worked for a bit but it made me feel really bad. I could literally hear myself talk to her in an almost hypnotic way. Did not like to be reminded of how manipulative, borderline psychopathic, I can be.

I want this to be clean and 100% honest and pure. I feel like the connection we have had from the start makes this relationship deserve that.

Otherwise I would never even consider torturing myself for a month first.

>>18296878
HAHAHAHA i know what you mean! i felt the same way just talking to them, carefully saying exactly what they want to hear.

Well it sounds like you know what you must do. I bid you farewell on this journey and hope it works out the way you planned. Maybe it turns out perfect. viel glück

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>many of them are vapid creatures
>I had a goal of fucking 50 girls

you OP are on the other end some kind of deep thinking intellectual man, right?

>>18296883
Bedankt buurman ;).

I don't even dare to go on facebook anymore right now and see her messages.

>>18296884
Yes, I would say I am considerably more intelligent than most of them. I'm not claiming to incredibly noble and moral but I can still recognize a mind that isn't cultivated.

>>18296599
Find a woman who stimulates you mentally - one who likeS some of the things that you like - one you could call a FRIEND

>>18296889
Apparently not intelligent enough to realize this is completely self inflicted.

You're seeking out women who are shallow enough to let you just bang them, and are resentful of them for being shallow enough to let you just bang them.

This isn't rocket science.