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Yesterday I had an argument with my doctor where she flatly refused

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Yesterday I had an argument with my doctor where she flatly refused to listen to my reasoning in seeking investigation/diagnosis for ADD/ADHD (dead ringer for it during childhood, most of the reasons why I'm a NEET are ADD symptoms) and have since taken some over the counter amphetamines (Duromine) and to no surprise on my part have had a cloudy feeling, lethargic low energy feeling all day without it being really similar to any kind of lethargy I've had from depression.

I want to know how valid the reaction I’ve had is as an indicator?
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Second opinion doesn't mean going to a pack of non-specialist randos on an image board.

Get your second opinion from another doctor.
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>>18293327
Yeah I'm really just looking at this as a single point of evidence to bring up while continuing to seek investigation/diagnosis. I'm just asking about the validity of this AS a point of evidence.
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>>18293325
>I want to know how valid the reaction I’ve had is as an indicator?

What, from taking an amphetamine? If that's what you're askin', you're a fucking idoit.

Regardless, if you want a second opinion book an appointment with a specialist or a psychiatrist for an evaluation
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>>18293343
People with ADHD have significantly different reactions to amphetamines to neurotypical folks; I'm looking for the quick response in the mean time cause I'm impatient as hell (shocker right) while I wait on an appointment with someone who can actually diagnose to seek medication that would be in a correct dosage and whatever, ideally from someone in the medical professions; less ideally from someone who just has ADD/ADHD and can chime in with their own experiences.
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>>18293371
Not all people do because these things aren't absolute laws of medicine. Further, amphetamines don't just make you amped up overall, they CAN make you feel slowed down and generally that's what they do - partially because of blood pressure, but of course, not for all people. People who abuse these types of things snort them instead of taking them orally simply because the absorption into the blood stream is much faster in the former method. That's because a slow absorption caused only the muddle. Just because you have these symptoms does NOT mean you have ADD/ADHD but rather you are assuming the consequent.
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>>18293407
and the question I'm trying to ask is really to what degree does all of the points in your post invalidate my experience/how valid does this reaction remain
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seems like you desperately want to find an excuse to why you're a lazy slob instead of getting your ass up. much like a fat woman getting mad that the doc found out her thyroid glans are working just fine and she just needs to exercise and eat less but she gets all worked up because apparently the doc isn't "taking her seriously" and she really needs a second opinion and possibly a gastric band ASAP. because she's "eating rather healthy" (uses milk with added calcium for her fruit loops in the morning) and gets "plenty of exercise" (walking to mcdonalds).
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>>18293416
Insomnia is my biggest issue and regular medication/treatment that just causes drowsyness has failed. I'm hoping ADD/ADHD treatment have different approaches to it because brain activity not settling when I go to bed is my problem (which is typical of ADD/ADHD).

Thanks for stopping in to be a cunt though, appreciate it.
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>>18293325
>wants the easy fix of pills
>doctor argues against that
>sure he knows better
>wants a board of teenage dweebs to support him
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>>18293457
lemme lay out how my doctors appointment went with you
>I think I might have ADHD/ADD
>no you dont, take more anxiety/depression meds
>anxiety/depression meds aren't helping me get my life fixed, I think there's a bigger underlying issue
>no there isnt, you just have anxiety/depression, take your pills

I mean I still got a referral to an ADD/ADHD psychiatrist but it's pretty fucking infuriating to say "I have problem" and hear "no you dont" instead of "why do you think that" from a doctor. There was no interest in exploring it when I spoke to her that didn't just feel like I was being humoured.
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>>18293471
That's because ADHD is a meme and some doctors treat it as such. Nobody really understands ADHD and can diagnosis it accurately. I'm sure she gets tons of young people every week asking if they have ADD and she's used to telling them they're completely fine. It's a meme.
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>>18293471

I'm quite sure that a degree in medicine, coupled with many years of experience stands for a bit more than Wikipedia and googling to find a reason for your failure in life.

You have a referral to a psychologist who will look into your symptoms further, but all other anons are right. It's seen as a joke diagnosis and is very, very rarely given to adults. I think you're probably looking for the wrong thing here - a quick fix which will change your life which doesn't exist.

Good luck anyway.
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