I'm 21, and I really like a girl who is 17. Is this bad?

Just don't fuck her until she's 18 and you are fine, dawg.

>>18272534
Where do you live?

>>18272538
USA. The legal age is 16 in my state, but that's not what I'm concerned about because I don't want to have sex with her right now, I just want to take her out and let our relationship develop. I'm more worried about whether this comes across as creepy. She's super mature, but still, there's a bit of an age difference.

>>18272542
Not creppy at all, what is 4 years? If she was 18 and you were 22 would you still think it's creepy?

When you will be 26 she will be 22.

>>18272544
Unless you look like a 40 year old xD.

>>18272544
Well, I guess it's not that I think it's wrong or creepy, but I don't know what other people would think. Her family likes me, but I don't really know if her mom would like a 21 year old guy taking out her teen daughter.

>>18272534
A 16 year old guy with a 12 year old girlfriend is weird.

A 31 year old guy with a 27 year old girlfriend wouldn't even be noticed.

You're somewhere in between. The biggest issue is not what it looks like but how mature she is. Think of yourself at 17. Were you ready for a serious relationship?

>>18272552
>Think of yourself at 17. Were you ready for a serious relationship?
I wasn't. I do think she's a little ahead of where I was maturity-wise.

>>18272542
You want to have sex with her Anon!!! Begin her corruption and eventual sexual destruction!!! What is fucking wrong with you???

>>18272601
Okay, well I don't want to do any of that stuff. Sex is a nice endgoal, but that's not what I'm focused on. I just really like her, and I want to spend time with her, and get to know her better.

>>18272610
She is in her sexual prime and if you don't fuck her, not only are you a faggit like Bob Saget, she will find someone who will.

>>18272612
No, she's a wait for marriage kind of girl, and that's alright with me.

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>>18272616
>she's a wait for marriage gal
Wew, lad!

Nah
Just dont expect any maturity or stability from her part. She will be very fickle.

I'm 20 and my gf is 17, and it's completely fine, if that makes you feel better.
The thing is she has to be mature. If she acts like a kid, that's weird.
My gf is literally more mature than me, so that's not an issue for me

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>>18272658
What's it like to have your penis in a 17 year old cunt? God it sounds like heaven!!!!

>>18272734
It's pretty great my dude

>>18272658
Is it bad that you're more mature than your younger girlfriend?

>be 18
>meet chick on tinder
>she's 19, Asian, and a novelist
>be going out for two years now
>never meet her family
>suspicious, but she's hot so
>suddenly her family moves
>long distance for months
>texts me one day and asks me to come get her
>was roadtripping anyways, so I do
>take her to meet my dad out of state
>take her to meet my cousins and distant family
>get call
>it's the FBI
>agent tells me she's 15
>wat wat wat
Minors can be really deceptive in the maturity department these days. Physically and emotionally.

I'm 24 and dating a 19 yr old. And it's great !

Don't focus too much on age.

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>>18273331
Pic related. Apparently this is what 15 looks like now? Disregard the caption.

>>18273372
goddamn hormones.

I saw a girl in the street yesterday and thought "damn!" only to notice she was surrounded by her friends of, I assume, the same age, and they looked fucking twelve. I observed a little bit more and realized she behaved like them and was probably twelve too.

I'd hate to go to prison for a crime I didn't even know I was committing

>>18273331
Remember anon, children under the age of 18 are incapable of wanting sex. You groomed her, then raped her, and caused her permanent harm. You should be registered as a sex offender and be forced to live under the bridge that's the only place in town more than 1/4 mile from a school.

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>>18273391
I managed to get out of legal trouble thankfully. Still miss the hell out of her.
>tfw her family's Asian
>tfw I have no idea how she's doing
>tfw literally had my fiance ripped out of my life

>>18273423
Wrong, we didn't bone. We were waiting until marriage. Thanks for the concern though.

>>18273423
Funny cause tv shows targeted at teens will have you believe that having sex is all that matters in life.

It's the kind of show that makes you believe you're nothing if you're not dating.

>>18273423
Also did you miss the part where I didn't know she was a minor? That was kind of a crucial part of the story.

>>18273331
What kind of people you think we are to believe in this BS? Yeah sure, they called you on your cellphone, freaking FBI... MHM. Yeah. Was it Mulder by any chance. He was actually calling me too recently, he is trying to catch a green little man.

>>18273391
I saw one in a public bath who had b tits and a perfect thick juicy ass and legs with a slim waist. Her face and her friends age made me guess she was 12/13. Friend and I laughed like retards because we saw her body first and were staring like hyenas but then she turned around

>>18273427
>Planning out exactly when you were going to rape her
>Brainwashing her into planning her own rape
Absolutely disgusting tbqhwyf

>>18273431
Ignorantia juris non excusat.

Don't mind me, I'm just memeing. Children want sex pretty much from birth. They have to be trained not to masturbate in public as infants and toddlers. The idea that a sexuality mature woman below an arbitrary age defined in the 19th century in order to protect the business interests of aging prostitutes isn't capable of sexual desire is the most ridiculous bullshit I've ever heard.

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>>18273433
You got me. First a deputy called me but I have caller ID so I didn't answer because I was like nah I don't talk to cops and she's an adult if she wanted to tell her family she would have. Then I got a call from my mom's number and answered and she was crying because the fbi went to her house when they couldn't find me at mine. She handed the phone off and that's when I got the news. Here's the local report. I covered up names and shit for obvious reasons. I guess the lesson I learned is that you can't really trust anyone so always check ID even if they're crazy hot.

>>18273513
So basically she is missing and it's the only reason they were trying to ask you about her, not bacause she is 15...

>>18273520
Was missing, I was the last number she called, it was a manhunt. Got nicked in Indiana. Apparently she left a note saying she was leaving and the only reason it was a problem was because she was a minor. Her family didn't know about me until then. Apparently she just told them she was hanging out with her friends.

>>18273535
So it's basically nothing like you implied with your first posts here, where you implied they were trying to get you because they thought you were a pedo.

Even if you would hit that they wouldn't do anything to you I bet, if she was telling you she was 19 and you had those messages still.

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>>18273543
Did I imply that? I didn't mean to. I was just trying to say that minors aren't necessarily so horribly immature that it's impossible to date them the same way you would an adult. I got bamboozled because I couldn't tell the difference. That's all I was saying.

>>18273543
>Even if you would hit that they wouldn't do anything to you I bet, if she was telling you she was 19 and you had those messages still.

Nah, that's a case of ignorantia juris non excusat

>>18273543
First, she was a missing minor and traveling with him without her parents' knowledge or consent. That constitutes kidnapping, and there's many similar cases that have resulted in convictions. He's lucky the parents didn't press charges.

The texts wouldn't make any difference if it was a statutory rape case. There are literally 17 year olds who are serving 20+ years without possibility of parole for taking pictures of themselves. Juries have proven remarkably willing to convict in "think of the children" cases even when when that conviction benefits no one and is clearly harmful to the involved minor.

>>18273607
>>18273558
>>18273564
Good I don't live in the "COUNTRY OF FREEDOM".

>>18272549
-.-

Who the fuck cares what people think and she is not 15 or 12, she is soon gonna be 18!!!!!!!!

Ah whatever, you want to hear me saying "don't go for her", right?

>>18273465
As I understand it, it's really true in this case. All they have to prove is that she was underage and you fucked her, because she can't legally consent.

>>18273905
I'm both >>18273465 and >>18273607. Ethically, there's zero problem with what she did. She was willing and complicit (I'm intentionally avoiding the legal baggage that comes with "consent," which people are rarely able to separate when using the word in other contexts), and according to his story, he respected her as an equal and never coerced her in any way.

Legally, he's fucked. This is an open-and-shut case of kidnapping. If her parents had pressed charges, he would be in prison. If they had been sexting, she would have been guilty of producing child pornography with intent to distribute, and he would have been guilty of possession. If they'd had sex, he would be guilty of statutory rape, and possibly a handful of other charges. If there were even the slightest shred of evidence, it's unlikely that he could have gone to court and come through without being forced to register as a sex offender, even if he weren't sent to prison.

The fact of the matter is that a great many laws in the US have no basis reality. They're proposed and voted on by politicians seeking to show that they care about whatever hysteria is currently sweeping through the populace, enforced by law enforcement agencies desperate to rationalize their continued existence, and adjudicated by a court system that has forgotten the difference between justice and legality.

Here's your red pill for the day if you still believe in the totalitarian fairy tale that near-absolute government power is the only way to keep you safe: https://mises.org/library/not-so-wild-wild-west

This thread is about something completely different now.