I'm just horribly tired of fucking up with women on online

And it just really fucking bothers me when girls tell me something like "You know ___ we have a lot in common, a ton of the same interests, you seem like a really fit and put together guy, you're really sweet and everything but for some reason, I'm just not that interested in you. Sorry."

I've just heard it too many times. Shit is making me want plastic surgery or something, I don't even know if it will make me more attractive but maybe placebo will help me somehow.

>>18256348
Have you tried cold approaching instead of apps?

I dunno, I'm 22, socially awkward, not a lot of friends, so I never really dated. Then a few months ago, I kind of started making an effort to start hitting on women and getting dates. Never used a dating app. I just approach women at uni.

The way I see it, with apps, you're just a face amongst thousands in a catalog. It already puts you at a disadvantage, because you're in direct competition with other dudes in an environment in which dudes outnumber women. I'd never want to use an app, because it would destroy my fragile self-esteem.

But when you approach somebody? Suddenly you're a real person, not just a carefully-angled photo with a blurb of text that you agonized over, trying to make yourself sound as cool as possible. You're already at an advantage, because most dudes don't tend to approach women in real life, and even the women who aren't interested or have boyfriends seem to be flattered and a little impressed by your guts, so even the rejection isn't that bad. Even after being rejected, I take it like a good sport and still feel good about myself, knowing I did something outside my comfort zone.

I think approaching people in real life will already set you apart from the pack of fuccbois these girls keep on meeting online.

>>18256348
>I have many insecurities
>I don't know why people don't find me attractive

Because insecurity is unattractive as fuck.

>>18256404
It's hard not to be insecure about something when it's basically proven from various surveys women consider Indian men less dateable. Even if I carry myself well and confidently the negative stereotypes reflect on me. On top of that it's pretty much proven women always dislike shorter men.

I try not to think about it but I know there are a ton of dudes out there the majority of women will always find more attractive than me for reasons I can't change. It feels very frustrating.

>>18256398
Honestly I think I'll try doing this in areas where I don't go often, just because when I hit on girls I might say something embarrassing in an attempt to make them laugh or compliment them. I guess finding a good place to do it is something I should learn, because the online dating thing is just kind of wearing thin. In real life girls seem to check me out and pay attention to my voice when I'm talking, plus people tell me I look like a tough guy fairly often. It might give me some positive reinforcement if I get some girl's numbers from something other than the Tinder/POF/Badoo swarm.

>>18256348
I'm white, and you're height but I had no sexual experience in college

could be worse.

>>18256437

It's easy to not be insecure when you don't pay attention to what "surveys" say things should do or how things should be, and having confidence in myself as a person and human being instead of worrying about what race I am.

It's also really easy to be insecure when you imagine things will go badly before they ever start.

>>18256348

your post screams victimhood.

you've decided what the women you would be interested in are interested in themselves and it aint you.

There is literally nowhere to go from there. You've non-figuratively placed yourself in the victim box.

you are feeding your own insecurity in this way, and as you are right now probably should avoid relationships anyways.

hows the rest of your life? done with school? working?

Do not use dating apps. It seems convenient but women who use them have a huge advantage because they get 100times more messages than men. Make a fake average looking women's profile then make a mens profile with a decent looking middle class guy and just look at the difference. Even female cows are treated like princesses because guys will fuck anything. You are much more likely to destroy your confidence and self respect than to actually meet someone worthwhile. It's like playing the lottery except the winner gets a sloppy whore and loses all self respect. Use real life. Meet people at the bar or work or through friends and aquantences or even church. Anywhere but dating apps. The problem with meeting on an app is the only real basis you have to spend time with someone is that you were desperate enough to use a dating app and she was less desperate because she has a hundred Dicks sending her messages everyday.

>>18256457
Honestly this is good advice. Like I understand maybe some women will never be attracted to me and I can live with that, but it's no reason to stop trying.

>>18256457
Done college, started working, living on my own, buying a car real soon. I'm a pretty fit, happy guy besides the fact that I'm still developing my career and stuff.

>>18256489
Honestly I have had some success from these apps, but I get what you're getting at. There's so many dudes on these apps just looking for a quick piece of ass, girls can be choosy. Occasionally I still match up with a nice girl and have a good experience meeting her.