So here is the deal: I'm a 23 year old kissless virgin.

>>18250530
relax, you are just 24, there will be lots of chances for you to meet a nice girl in the future. continue to go to gym, and try to talk with girls, If you meet the girl you like, show her that you have the interest to her first. There are also lots of good girls looking for men, so cheer up and never give up. Hope this can help you

>>18250530
It blows my mind every day that women know guys like this exist and that they have the power to save them and improve their lives 1000% and yet they do nothing. It's like they don't give a shit about anyone and don't care about doing good things that would help people.

>>18250530
I was a hugless Kissless Virgin until I was 23 years and 5 months old.

I met my BF on the Internet and after 9 of dating online I flew to his city to meeting him and lost my KHV.

He eventually left me for his ex.

Since I went my whole life without a BF, I thought " well that's it. No one will be willing to date me ever again"

I downloaded tinder and there was a lot of interest. I realised that guys actually find me attractive. I met up with guys, has a few kisses but never slept with anyone else ( and that's my own fault for being hung up on my first ex but that's a different story)

So my advice, put yourself out there, you'll be surprised. Now go download tinder.

Be honest with yourself... do you put yourself in situations where there is even a chance. Or do you just wait for the perfect moment? James Bond cool doesnt work.. you have to make the first move.
Since you are an engineer and like solving problems in a linear fashion.. where everything must be in order right? Well, with EVERY interaction.. note where you did well, and where you fucked up.. LEARN from your mistakes. If you cant say "hello" to a girl... start atleast doing that. Keep the conversation going.. or bounce at anytime. You got to put the time in.
There is no magical pixie dust, or magical swirly line of bullshit that makes a girls panties drop for you. And ABOVE ALL... do not flash your engineering money you fucking idiot.

>>18250942
Wow no shit you get dates, you're a fucking woman.

>>18251010
I'm not flashing my money, I just pointed out that they don't help much in terms of self-esteem. But I am not going to lie, I am proud of what I do and I noticed that one of the first thing I bring up when someone asks me about myself (there is really not much more about me).
There is also another problem: I can fucking see when a woman likes a guy, it's obvious by the way she looks at him, by the way she behaves, by the way she talks. And I've NEVER EVER seen that towers me, by anybody.
>>18250942
I've had Tinder for 6 months now and it's a fucking joke, it's full of girls that know pretty well that they are attractive, so they are just there to fish for attention. I get matches very rarely, and even more rarely I get a conversation going.

>>18251114
You are become reactionary. Thats like a huge no-no in the dating world. If you think its a big deal, she is going to think its a big deal. I assume you also worry about running out of things to say - fuck all that, be completely random, be sloppy, you make a mistake own up to it. Literally say to her "this conversation sucks." "you are losing me." "can we get back to talking about... ME?" and point to yourself.
cocky - funny. Be mindful of your voice tone - dont seek approval.

Girls do not want perfection, they want something they can fix. If you are too perfect, then THEY get angst that they arent of value.
Go do the 30 day mission challenge from any of the PUA books. Its a great starting point. You got allot of things that you built up as being important in the dating world - when they are trivial.

>>18250663
Why should I care about anybody in this world when nobody has cared enough for me to even kiss me on lips. People are as good as the world allows them to be. There are people who are just liked and loved their whole lives without ever having to give jack shit in return. I have a friend who dates one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen (not only on the outside) and the first thing he does when she's not around is cheat on her. I don't get it.

>>>18251131
"Go do the 30 day mission challenge from any of the PUA books."
Please elaborate.
I've read Models by Mark Manson. It sais some pretty agreeable but knowing something doesn't change the way how you feel on the inside. It's like every time I make a move some internal instinct kicks in that tells me that there is no chance in hell it's gonna work out. The rest is awkwardness

>>18250530
Speaking as a kissless virgin who's going on 26, romance isn't everything. I think you're putting the cart before the horse a little in terms of trying to find a relationship, though, because - and this might sound harsh, but it's true - you need to be able to love yourself before you can reasonably expect someone else to love you. That pessimism is going to seriously hold you back if you're looking for a girlfriend, and while it might not be easy, personality can be cultivated and changed.