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Am I sexist or prude for thinking that the degeneracy of young

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Am I sexist or prude for thinking that the degeneracy of young women nowadays is very disconcerting?

Almost all the girls I know have a second Instagram profile plastered with countless selfies and near-nude body shots of themselves. It seems like the culture of sex has really changed with social media and now it feels like every girl has to prove she's sexy and has a nice body.

It just really rubs me the wrong way. I feel like girls nowadays lack so much self-respect and very few of them are actually worth pursuing a relationship with.

It just all feels kind of vapid and depressing. It's been feeding my misanthropy and made me realize just how shallow, insecure, and even mentally unstable most young people are today.
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>>18228983
Not a prude. We have gone too far in the sexual freedom direction. Sex culture has become a beast that can no longer be tamed. Living in Los Angeles and being a bit of a man whore myself I will tell you I see it everywhere. Every girl posts nudes on their private Instagram. They all obsess over likes and Snapchat views which they learned early can easily be obtained by showing more and more skin. All girls have stories about random hookups and tinder guys. Drunk threesomes when they were 15, orgies at birthday parties, girls that have fucked over 100 guys by 17. We are living in Sodom. There are good girls out there but god damn are they hard to find. I would say don't give up hope and keep looking for her but god damn is it hard to resist all this free pussy

>shallow, insecure, and even mentally unstable most young people are today.

Young people have always been this way but the culture has changed allowing them to be lured into sexual degeneracy as a form of coping. Never has it been so easy to hook up with multiple people as right now.
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Well, if you think about it there's no actual reason for girls to suppress their sexuality aside from cultural standards. Nowadays female sexuality has been liberated and men are basically useless as women are able to live by themselves and get a man whenever they want without having the hassle of entering a relationship and actually caring for someone other than themselves. Even if a relationship would bring them happiness they just can't be arsed to see through the effort, it's just easier to be chased by a dozen men and have your emotional needs fulfilled by a rotating roster.
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its always been like this, or at least wanted to be like this, we just now have the tools to make it possible.

keep in mind that this isn't a degeneracy of young women, its a degeneracy of both genders.

its kinda like the pedophile argument. if there werent people consuming child porn, there'd be no reason for people to make it.

girls are only reacting to what is being dangled in front of them, and men as well. its a symbiotic relationship.
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>>18228983
>Almost all the girls I know have a second Instagram profile plastered with countless selfies and near-nude body shots of themselves.
Then you don't know many girls. Or you're exaggerating. Or you're consistently meeting the wrong girls, in which case the problem is you.

It is not hard at all to find college-aged women who aren't into hookup culture and don't post nudes online.
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>>18229039
>It is not hard at all to find college-aged women who aren't into hookup culture and don't post nudes online.

Lol give them a couple years in college
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>>18229039
>It is not hard at all

its much easier to find girls that are into it and openly talk about how whorish they are. its normal now

its not people just wanting to do this stuff, theyre being encouraged to do it, just like theyre encouraged not to have relationships or have kids

its stupid and a little fucked up
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>>18229039
Pretty much this: >>18229079

Not every girl does the things I listeed in the OP, but the point is that a LOT more than you would expect do, and it's considered normal by most.
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>>18228983
Well, they're competing for Chad.

Also , they'll keep doing it as long as they get an avalanche of positive reinforcement from thirsty betas in the comments section.
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I also think this, OP. And as a woman I feel ashamed of my gender, of the vulgarity that is called sexual openness and liberation.

And i've been called a 'fucking prude', close minded and looked down upon even by guys because i refuse to give in to the modern sexual culture of showing as much skin as possible irl and in photos and sending nudes, etc.
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>>18229093
God bless you
Teach your fellow tribes woman
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>>18228983
>Am I sexist or prude for thinking that the degeneracy of young women nowadays is very disconcerting?
I work at a school, and sometimes the 5th or 6th graders come in with shorts halway past their asshole, and the teachers force them to wear sweatpants.
I lose a little faith every day, some of these kids are so oversexed at fucking 11-12 its unbelievable, I'd place some of them at 16 if i didn't know my school stopped at grade 6.

and we all know who is to blame, right?
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>>18229120
>I work at a school, and sometimes the 5th or 6th graders come in with shorts halway past their asshole, and the teachers force them to wear sweatpants.

Damn that's fucking sooooo degenerate, I don't even believe it. Do you have any pics for proof?
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>>18228983
I remember how 10 years ago teenagers used to stay away from sex, it was bit of a taboo for us back then.
Now every single one is willing to jump on your dick if you play your cards right.

The world is changing for the worse.
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Not sexist at all if they make a 2nd account to post those damn duck face selfies in the bathroom mirror wearing their undies. It is their choice and last I checked the IG and SC has a majority women audience, though not a blowout majority.


>>18229142
Uh yeah teacher here to, you don't need any pics. But I remember back in the days when I was in school the kids came to class wearing the same shit. This chica in my class wore see-through fishing nets and some high heel black boots. I see kids wearing basically the same. So unless you go to a private school or a school that require uniforms it is the same shit.
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>>18229120
>and we all know who is to blame, right?

yup.
only way to fight it is to have lots of kids yourself, raise them right and dont let them get indoctrinated. if you see them acting like the kids in this guys school, put a stop to that ASAP
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The ONLY thing Islam got right was the way they treat their women

Women never should have been allowed to vote.
Women never should have been able to be as sexually liberated as they are now

We've opened Pandora's box and it can't go back in.

This is the world ((((they)))) wanted us to live in. Now it's reality. Get used to it, its only going to get worse.
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>>18229152
10 yrs ago? Bro it has always been like that. Teenagers are teenagers with their hormones. This isnt the 1930s. It is just worse now because of all the smartphones and IGs. More wellknown know.
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>>18229093
You're a princess. <3

>>18229120
Who? The Jews?
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>>18229165
im pretty sure the bible says alot about letting women have too much power

it definitely says a woman whos a slut is basically worthless
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>>18229142
if you could think further than the tip of your dick, you'd be depressed at what this means for the future

>>18229165
>The ONLY thing Islam got right was the way they treat their women
I slowly have begun to agree with this statement

Giving women the right to vote lowered the lowest common denominator of laws from the good of the family to the good of the person. Which is why gays, trannies and muslims are tolerated now.

>>18229172
>Bro it has always been like that
no it isn't, if a 12 year old went to school with her ass hanging out in 1930-80 she'd get the fucking belt

>>18229178
yup
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>>18229172
Yeah, but I'm from Eastern Yurop, so we're always behind culturally.
10 years ago you had to be literally Chad to score with another teenager, but now you just have to be average, since the girls are craving cock by themselves.
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>Am I sexist or prude for thinking that the degeneracy of young women nowadays is very disconcerting?
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>>18229182
Hmmmm 1930-80 is ten years ago. Fuck me in the ass my bad with math.
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>>18229182
This.
Just 10 years ago a girl showing too much skin was causing their father's blood to boil and take the belt out. At least where I live.
Was worse with each decade back, tbqh. In the 90's there were still people getting their ass beat for bad grades, and it was socially acceptable.
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>>18229189
so you forgot the other year you mentioned? gg

>>18229190
>In the 90's there were still people getting their ass beat for bad grades, and it was socially acceptable.
too bad that's abuse now.
We have kids at my school tha do whatever the fuck they want and don't get in any real trouble for it.

reminds me of another time when one of the faculty caught two 12 year olds making out in the hallway, and the guy had his hands up her fucking shirt.
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>>18229190
>In the 90's there were still people getting their ass beat for bad grades, and it was socially acceptable.

The bureaucratization of schools led to their marks becoming meaningless, both in bad ways and good ways. California underwent this change multiple decades before Poland did.
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>>18229190
>there will never be a better period than the 90s
;_;
The music, the cars, the culture...
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>>18229199
Earlymid 1990s were very different in the west and in the east.
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>>18228983
Its only sexist if you're only applying it to women, by definition at least.
If you're turned off by the same degeneracy men of this generation put forth, then at least you're fair.

Even if you are hypocritical though, that's fine. Everyone is. I apply certain things to men I don't apply to women myself, and vice versa. But when you are being hypocritical you do have to step back and realize you're being irrational and most people aren't going to rally behind you. (Even though again, we all do it to some degree).

Personally, I'm a chick, and I too am a little irked by "Muh Sexual Freedom!" because it ruins a lot of things for me.
For example, the more that casual sex culture becomes popular, the less likely any of us who still desire romance and love will be able to find anyone.
I miss the days were sex came last in a relationship, not before the relationship even starts.

But what can you do. You either adapt or fade away. Survival of the fittest.
Which, this is where I disagree that putting sexually suggestive photos up is inherently "not respecting yourself".
I know a lot do it because thats just the rules to the game anymore. I do it a little bit too, granted, I can't do too much due to the nature of my profession. But I make damn sure there's just a hint of cleavage in all myphotos, and are taken to the most sexually appealing angles. Because that's the only way I'm ever gonna compete in this world. You can't compete if you don't play the game.
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>>18229196
I've got an 18yo buddy, and he's constantly fucking some 16yo girls.
He's not even good-looking, he just can dance and buys them expensive alcohol.

>>18229198
Yep. Nowadays grades and behavior opinion don't matter at all, and all kids do is learn for exams, just to get the right score and not give a fuck.
This change happened only in the last eleven years or so.
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>>18228983
Sexual decadence is a sign of a dying civilization.
You were born just in time to witness the collapse of the West and humanity's plunge into another period of strife and conflict, in which the inheritors of the worlds will rise more, once again, having learned the important lessons that our parents and their parents forgot in their arrogance.
A society that does not constrict and direct the sexual energy of it's denizens, is weak and purposeless, and will fall.

So in short, grab some popcorn, and enjoy the ride. You don't see civilizations die every day.
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>>18229120
The similarities between Wiemar germany and modern west are spoopy as fuck.
https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany/

I've started to question if Hitler actually did have the right idea about the jews.
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You should have listened
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>>18229165
Women's suffrage was a fucking mistake.
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>>18229210
>due to the nature of my profession

are you an escort?
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>>18228983
Guys are pretty disgusting as well. But it's not like it all started recently.
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>>18229210
>You either adapt or fade away. Survival of the fittest.
or just get rid of the people responsible for this bullshit

>>18229212
>He's not even good-looking, he just can dance and buys them expensive alcohol.
kek, doesn't even have to be expensive here, since you have to be 21 for alcohol purchases.

>>18229227
>I've started to question if Hitler actually did have the right idea about the jews.
you have absolutely no idea how right he was. For instance, ever heard of the German revolution of 1918?
It was a jewish commie attempt at overthrowing the german govt. And people still believe the best reason for his dislike of jews was because they denied him entry to art school, kek.
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>>18228983
Every one has thought this for centuries. The new generation is so *bluh*

There were always prostitutes, there were always thieves, there were always morally questionable people, there were always assholes and the entitled.

It comes down to confirmation bias. If you think all girls are sluts now, youll focus on the sluts to affirm yourself.

Just change your lense. No two people are the same, and a lot of assholes and idiots exist. A lot of great people exist too. Like always.

Did you know in england hundreds of years ago dresses that exposed a woman's tits were totally cool and a fashion thing? In fact a royal tailor designed such a dress for the queen of england. Didnt even get the guillotine.

Youre really feeling this way because instagram and facebook are things now. So obviously every single girl whos like this will post pics of themselves, and every single girl who isnt is posting next to nothing. So theres an illusion.

Just chill man. People are people. Some are great and some suck.
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>>18229238
Truth will triumph in the end my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s&t=2s

>>18229249
Yeah, I wonder why they do not teach us about that part of Germany's history.
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>>18229244
No, the opposite. I'm a teacher.
My point was I cannot have full blown nudes up because well, I'd get fired pretty quick. But I also still have to play the game to try and snag a mate, so I make sure I can make my pictures as ambiguously sexy as possible. Enough so to grab a shred of attention from a guy who is already oogling the nudes from the hot chicks on IG, but subdued enough that if my boss ever saw it I could argue my way out of it.

>>18229249
We're in too deep. You can't just get rid of the majority that easily. When this is the dominant culture, not even genocide is gonna save you. You're merely a small little group of rebels against millions.
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>>18229250
you must be pretty young if you cant see how things have changed for the worse

the majority of girls werent slutting around back then. if they did, they were punished and/or shamed. now you cant do either and it causing things to take a turn for the worst

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>>18229220
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>>18229190
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>mfw Europe will erupt in continent wide war once again in my lifetime
Can't wait lads.
This state of affairs cannot last, and it will crumble, sooner or later, and once it does, blood will once again, paint the soil of Europe in beautiful crimson.
And I will be ready.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU6ZwGGkupQ
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>>18229250
The US was 90+% white 50 years ago
now its maybe 60%, and on course to becoming a minority majority.

This is distinctly not the same as most history, but more similar to rome before it ate shit, letting Germanic tribes and other savages move into the empire.

>>18229256
it "is" possible, but we're too placated and well managed to do anything like that. Its maybe 2 people per to disappear per white male.
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A decade ago I saw a toddler dressed a lot like this. That was so fucking disturbing.
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I was born in 90 and when I was in grade school and high school, girls were not ANYTHING like girls today.

girls cared more about popularity and their outfits, and which boy they were dating. Not who was getting the absolute best dick, had the most ig likes, who wore the skimpiest clothing, etc. also girls seemed to pair off with their equivalent, nowadays its either chad or nothing. girls today would rather be a side chick to chad than being a regular 6/10 - 7/10's bf. That was NOT the case when I was in school.

Of course cell phones were barely a thing when I was in middle school/high school so that has something to do with it

things definitely changed, if you say otherwise your head is in the sand.
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>>18229000
>girls that have fucked over 100 guys by 17

I am not surprised by the number of guys, but by 17 ? What the fuck!
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>>18229257
Im 30.

And ive met thousands of people and travelled a lot. And ive dated a lot.

Guess what. Some people are assholes, some people are cool, some are sluts and some are more reserved. Its always been that way.

Yes there used to be laws against lechery and extra marital affairs. People still got charged because they were still doing it. Just like people download music illegally now and still use illegal drugs and drink underage.

Its laws of "moral superiority". It doesnt even matter, because people will do what they want to do regardless.

In the 1950s kinsey did the largest survey on sexual habits of people and was th first to really shine a light on peoples' private lives. People were shocked SHOCKED to find out their sons and daughters were masturbating. The dude was nearly lynched.

Also a lot of widowed elder people admit to lying about their purity when marrying their partners as it was seen as so important way back when. So they did this thing humans can totally do if they arent expecting to be well received. They *lied*.

Nothing has changed. The only thing thats different is its more socially acceptable (and especially not illegal) to be outward with this kind of thing. So people talk about it more.

And when once you might not have ever talked to or associate closely to certain girls, now you can see what theyre regularly thinking or doing on facebook. Theyve just come out with it.


Call me young?

I call you jaded.
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>>18229267
Then go ahead and try and change things then mate. I'll see you on the 6 o'clock news.
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What's the best way to fight the collapse of civilization.
I'd like to become the head of a sort of organization but I'm not sure if I'd be the best man for that job.

I was thinking about making movies that subtly tell the reality to people on the effects of complete sexual freedom and other modern phenomenon.
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>>18229249
Alcohol is sold like milk in my country.
Makes me wonder how the fuck I've been raised by two non-drinking parents.
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>>18229275
>Actually believing the obvious exaggeration

Then again, this whole thread has just been one big r9k fest.
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>>18229282
>>18229275
It's not an exaggeration it's actually higher
She's known to be a sex addict and has fucked most of the male and some female bodies from two schools around her
Her family is rich and her parents are never home so she'll regularly have a few guys over during a day to have "fun"

>>18229277
Do you not see the issue in telling young impressionable minds that it's ok to do that?

Say 3 was an acceptable amount of partners to have by marriage time then young people will have 5. This keeps going until you reach this state we're in.
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>>18229278
not saying it will ever happen, just saying it wouldn't be that hard, statistically.

>>18229277
If I'm salty because 50% of marriages now end in divorce within 5 years, then so be it.

>>18229281
>Makes me wonder how the fuck I've been raised by two non-drinking parents.
Probably Christianity
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>>18229279
>What's the best way to fight the collapse of civilization.

It cannot be fought against, or stopped at this point.
We can only hope that the collapse will be so violent, and sudden, that (((they))) lose control, giving those who know what's up the opportunity to rise into power and wrest away the control of our societies back to ourselves.

The worst thing that can happen for our peoples, is a slow, gradual decay into nothingness which we are undergoing right now. What we need is a violent shakeup, that will wake the sleeping masses to their peril, and energize them to act.
Things are too good still, and people have too much to lose. Once that changes, anything is possible.

Hitler did not rise to power in times of prosperity and abundance.
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>>18229291
Father is a communist-times-loving-but-communism-hating atheist army vet, while my mother is Catholic, but pretty liberal when it comes to faith.

Shit like this makes me believe in wonders.
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>>18228983
Ive litterly had two girls this year ghost me after they realised they where also fucking my college roomate. Fucking hate college sluts. Theyre sociopaths
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/r9k/: the thread. Stay on your containment board, this is not the board for bitter virgins to whine.
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>>18229297
that's pretty incredible t b h
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>>18229340
Typical reply from a degenerate.
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>>18228983
Yes.
But you already knew that.
Now fuck off. This is an advice board.
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>degeneracy
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The Jew corrupts societies like a worm eats away at the inside of an apple.
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>>18229353
>hes a prude for noticing the decline of our civilization
>hurr bak 2pol

the day of the rope cant come soon enough
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>>18228983
If almost all the girls you know are degenerates, either something is wrong with your environment / friendship circle or you as a person for being involved with them.
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>>18229000

This post really makes me want to go MGTOW and forget about girls completely
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>>18228983
It's just one of the telltale signs of the Kali Yuga .. like all ages it have it's time and will eventually pass
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>>18229473
Kali Yuga is the last age of man, knowm as the Wolf Age to the Northerners.

After we destroy ourselves, Surt's fire shall cleanse us all of our sins.
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>>18229509
Erm .. no.
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>>18229509
You're thinking of Ragnarok btw ..
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You say that like men these days are much better
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>>18229269
I've also noticed everything in your post become reality. My solution was to find a wife from outside the West. I really feel bad for the guys around our age who aren't Chads and can't afford to travel to find a bride.
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>>18228983
>sexist

nothing wrong with that because nature is sexist and it made females inferior to males. feminism is just women complaining at the fact that nature made them inferior.
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the degeneracy of men is real too. they're becoming extremely weak and unprincipled.
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>>18229636
I agree but that shit is keep in check. If a male rapes a female he is thrown in jail but female nature is not keep in check. Females are rewarded for divorcing by giving them cash and prizes after a divorce at the expense of men.
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>>18229257
>>you must be pretty young if you cant see how things have changed for the worse
>in a thread about young women being sluts
you don't notice your own contradiction?
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>>18229654
>I agree but
degeneracy is not really about if ands or buts. it's a pretty serious problem.

>if a male rapes a female
that's basically the ultimate degenerate, someone who rapes women or does random acts of violence. there are dozens of levels of degeneracy to fall on before getting to that rock bottom.

people in general are becoming weaker because social disintegration gets more extreme as technology improves.
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And why do women do this? Because men want that. If women don't post selfies and near-nude body shots, no men will mate with them, and women have a mating instinct just like men do. So, what do you expect? Men pay zero attention to "modest" women, whatever that word means.
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>>18229700
look another social scientist

another armchair pseudo-intellectual on the internet

sorry to single you out. there are tons of this type in the whole thread.
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>>18229717

I didn't say anything particularly intellectual. It's all extremely obvious. Women want men. The only way to get attention from men is to present themselves in a sexual way. So women do. That's it.
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>>18229754
>whatever I say about all of society is overwhelmingly true, because I say so, or because of a vague appeal to "evidence" without describing said evidence in a scientific or even quantifiable way
>this is not pseudointellectualism

I know you didn't say anything particularly intellectual. you said something pseudointellectual.

I'm just trying to bring some reality to this internet circle jerk
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Sexist is debatable, but many would say yes. Prude yes, almost by definition. But that's mostly because it is literally a word meant to be insulting form of "traditionalist" or "sexual conservative" or whatever the more neutral term would be.
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>>18229184
Are there fat teenage cock hungry girls in Yurop like there are in Murica? I'd be all up in this young pussy if it didn't look and smell like a literal garbage dump. It's like being starved of nutrition from only being given rotten food.
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>>18229659
young can be from like 12-25
pretty young would theyre on the lower end

you could also be older and still notice this shit

the point still stands that its a problem. if you want to argue against that feel free
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>>18229806
Yep. Lots of pussy.
Just look out for jailbait.
Also, you're gonna get fucked by the police if you're caught fucking teenage pussy (legal at 15 years old) while being over 20 years old.
People will look at you like at a paedophile.
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>>18229290
Yes this girl has fucked everyone except for you, right?
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>>18228983
Why care? You feeling resentment towards them is your choice. You have no right to tell them how to live and since their way of life won't change because you think it should, you are choosing anger and resentment. If you want to feel unhappy because it makes your life feel meaningful that's up to you but to me it sounds pretty damn dumb
>>18229152
what the fuck man, just what the fuck
teenagers staying away from sex, ever? Are you actually missing some part of your brain?
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this whole thread man, all these bitter souls
What's wrong with being hedonistic? We all die, why not enjoy oneself before you do?
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>>18229977
Now let me stop you right there - Eastern Europe was pretty conservative with all that sex and the sex revolution from the 60's didn't hit us until much later.
The only rebellious thing the previous generation was doing was listening to rock, like Led Zeppelin and stuff like that. Even drugs were looked down upon and kids would get their ass beat so hard for any act of vandalism that they literally couldn't sit down in school afterwards.
My generation was from right after communism died, and discipline was still going strong, since the previous generation now came to beat THEIR kids' asses.
So imagine, the average kid from my parts was taught to play safe, or he'd get his ass whooped so hard, that he wished he fled to another country. Casual sex was shamed, family values were propagated, and the occasional slut was getting a black eye from her father for even a hint of being a slut.
Happened in my area lots of times - parents used to beat their children for even joking about sex. One living across the road even got her teeth knocked out.
HOWEVER, the pay-off was that parents expected their kids to marry early just like them. Like, at age 21. Scary shit.

If not for the West, we would still have that.

Interesting things, right?
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>>18230123
I don't see your point - you describe hell and say that the world is changing for the worse for stepping away from that?
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>>18228983

>Am I sexist or prude for thinking that the degeneracy of young women nowadays is very disconcerting?

You just seem like a real bummer to hang out with. Not to mention the fact that anytime anyone says the word "degeneracy" I immediately roll my eyes and get ready for the cringe fest. Focus on yourself. All this "Other people are doing something I don't like" horseshit is exhausting and unnecessary.
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>>18230147
Thanks for coming into the thread and showing me that there are sane people on this board
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im talking out of my ass but im gonna assume op is a virgin ora nice guy and he doesnt hang around with a lot of women
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>>18230147
All I'm doing is commenting a trend that I think is reflective of modern culture and the state of our youth.

I don't normally say "degeneracy," but the word is definitely appropriate in this context.
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>>18230144
>having some morally sound rules that teach caution
>hell
Jesus Christ.
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>>18230164

>All I'm doing is commenting a trend that I think is reflective of modern culture and the state of our youth.

Why? To what end? What great moral platform are you coming from that gives you license to start labeling other people shallow, insecure and mentally unstable? What makes you so fucking great?

The point is, even if you did have a point (which I personally don't think you do) the only thing you can accomplish by harping on about how terrible this generation is and how great your morals are is looking like a giant cunt with a superiority complex.

If you don't like something just don't socialize with it. Just shut the fuck up about and live your life because no one is interested in hearing all the ways in which you're better than everyone else.

Like I said, its exhausting.
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>>18229990
Hedonism is worthless. Pain is good for you, faggot. Makes you learn, makes you a stronger person. Trying to minimalize it is what a child does when he sets his hand on the burner for the first time. Likewise, you run into your cove and try desperately to not let the pain seep in whenever shit happens to you, not realizing that your obsessive and relentless pursuit of nebulous "pleasure" is stinting your ability to tolerate pain.

Guess what, bitch? Pain is everywhere. You can't run from it for long. Enjoy slowing down with age.
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>>18230189
Mentioning my "platofrm,"argumentative purpose, and my own shortcomings is irrelevant and fallacious

I think social media is either magnifying or creating mass insecurity in today's Youth. It's a very interesting thought to entertain beyond just saying "let the kids do what they want or "just ignore it if you don't like it."
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>>18230204

>I think social media is either magnifying or creating mass insecurity in today's Youth

Yeah, so? Kids are insecure. Its what they do. They do stupid shit and act out to get attention and then if they're smart they grow out of it. If they don't they remain insecure assholes for the rest of their lives.

I don't see what this has to do with degeneracy. And, no it isn't a very interesting thought to entertain beyond "just ignore it if you don't like it" because they're insecure little children and I'm a grown man. I tend not to occupy my thoughts with what body parts teenagers are flaunting on Instagram.

Again, I think this speaks more about your state of mind than theirs because the only people I ever hear harp on about this kind of shit does so with this underlying assumption that basically says "I notice all of these people who are shallow, insecure and mentally unstable and I notice these things because I am morally superior, emotionally stable and super confident."

It just makes you look like a cunt. I don't get it at all.
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>last so much self-respect and very few of them are actually worth pursuing a relationship with

Have you ever considered that these women actually have a lot of self-respect, and that's why they do what makes them happy, and that YOU are the one who is not worth pursuing a relationship with?

It's weird that these incel types are always the ones that bemoan the "degeneracy of the west". Meanwhile everyone else who don't see women as foreign agents don't see an issue.

I don't think you're sexist or a prude, I just think you're sad and lonely, and that makes you dislike people who aren't.
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>>18228983
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>>18230217
>no one is interested in hearing all the ways in which you're better than everyone else.
they're insecure little children and I'm a grown man.
See the hypocrisy here?

You're grossly underestimating the psychological nuance of deep-seated insecurity and how it can carry on past adolescence.

I've never claimed to be above it all. You just sound like you're projecting by saying that this comes from a condescending place. This discussion is definitely relevant in today's technological and cultural landscape and the fact that you label anyone who recognizes it and wants to have a discussion about it is pretty sad.
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Anytime someone's logic relies on "things didn't use to be like this", I always read it as, "as a child I was ignorant of the way the world worked, and now that I am old enough to be aware, I dislike it".
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>>18230249
Please name another era in history where an abundance of girls exhibited themselves via technology like this.
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>>18230260
Dumb request, since social media only exists now. But women (and men) have always been enormous sluts, they just were forced to do it quietly. Now we don't shame people for having the sex they (and we all) want to have, or to be sexual creatures. Because humans like sex, and that's fine.

Sexual repression makes great swaths of people huge fuckups. Again, the people who have real problems with this were either 1.) raised with huge sexual hangups or 2.) are unfortunately unable to find any interpersonal relationships, and they become bitter and angry (see TRP, incels).

Anyone who suggests "degeneracy" denotes the end of civilizations is a tard.
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>>18230243

>Creates an entire thread and sticks around for 100 posts to talk about how shallow, insecure and mentally unstable everyone else but he is

>Accuses other people of projecting

Ayeeeee

>the fact that you label anyone who recognizes it and wants to have a discussion about it is pretty sad.

No, I didn't label anyone. I labeled you.
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>>18230287
Wow great deflection boyo

>No, I didn't label anyone. I labeled you.
Incorrectly labeled me, at that.
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>>18229199
The 90s is what precipitated this mess wtf are you talking about?
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>>18230303

>Wow great deflection boyo

I'm calling you full of shit. Your weak attempts at pretending like this whole issue is just about you wanting to have a nice discussion about the "degeneracy" of this generation are extremely unconvincing. This, much like every other edgy poster before you who comes here to harp about how much everyone sucks, is all just about your insecurity and your shitty superiority complex that you so desperately want other people to validate.

You can't make sweeping generalizations and call millions of people you don't know shallow, insecure and mentally unstable, elevate yourself above them but then try to claim the moral high ground. It just doesn't work that way.

>Incorrectly labeled me, at that.

Well, much like this entire dumb thread you're so dedicated to being right about, thats all a matter of opinion, isn't it? To be fair, I've counted a fair amount of posts calling you a self-righteous cunt so I'm not exactly treading uncharted territory here.
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OP:

If you had a gf and she dressed sexy as fuck in public, like enough to get you hard just looking at her, would you:

A:
>Get upset, tell her to change, or just be upset that she was displaying herself

or

B:
>Be proud that people are staring at your girl, proud that you scored a hot one, and excited to bring her home to fuck?

If you said A or didn't agree with B you need to learn to view women as humans who are able to make choices for themselves. You are displaying needy/attached behavior and you're putting women on a pedestal.

Also you're gay if you don't enjoy and feel inspired by all the hot women around lately.

Just because they're sexual in nature doesn't make them not gf/marriage material. You have weird standards. Get with it OP
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>>18230304

What mess are you talking about? The mess where a new generation emerges while the older generation claims they're all worthless degenerates and heathens? You mean the cyclical pattern of generational changes that has been happening for hundreds of years? That mess? The one where every single generation claims that the new generation is going to end the world?

You kids, I swear....
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>>18230318
You've basically asked a trick question. The reason OP hates "degeneracy" is because he's been left in the cold. It's why these guys harp only on women, when men are obviously having way more promiscuous sex than earlier generations--they're not being rejected by dudes (though they likely would be if they tried).
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I ain't reading this shit thread, but what is said in the OP is valid and supported by many people from all walks of life. Just know that you aren't alone OP, and anyone who feels this way. There are plenty of men and women out there like us. Just don't give up on finding us.
>>18230321
You can't say that the internet hasn't changed things. Sometimes the generational leap is huge, think Industrial Revolution, and sometimes it isn't. This is maybe the biggest since we have the internet, the shitfest of the modern economy, and over a trillion dollars of student debt. Just one of those is enough to have huge sociological effects, but we got all three.
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>>18228983
I think you're ignorant for assuming that this issue is endemic to a certain time period. Your faggot parents probably complained about the same thing. Unless you're being an edgelord to spite them, in that case, they were on the receiving end of such criticism.
>damn kids and their new music! I hates it!
Fuck off dude.
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Everyone is like that, it's not gendered. Personally I feel it's too much, but I'm also not bothered by what others do in their lives. I'm pretty moderate in terms of what I think about sex- I'm no puritan, but I only have sex with long term boyfriends. I've never had a hookup, for example.

I also don't believe it's all girls, or if so the girls you know must be basic bitches. Most of my friends aren't into sexy pictures on social media.
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>>18230312
I think his main purpose was to commentate on the recent sexualization of our culture (which is hard to argue now that technology is in the picture) and the possible drawbacks that come with it. Whether or not there was a snooty air about his post is up to you, but I do agree it could have been worded better.
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>>18228983
I wouldn't say you're sexist, I'd say you're using your head to think about things and that's perfectly fine.

I don't mind women who've slept around as long as they own it and aren't hopelessly needy and insecure, using men as a crutch to fill some void. What I look for is somebody at my "level" who can stimulate me intellectually as well as physically and emotionally. But I feel that, while so many women are capable of this, not many of them go for it. They are super into their emotions and feelings but dumb themselves down intellectually.

I actually had a female friend tell me years ago that women will literally act passive, coy and naive while toying with guys because it's proven strategy to get guys chasing them. She even told me she shared this secret with a mutual friend, who tried to seduce me with that. But anyways, I don't mind the sex stuff, I just hate when that's all women are about. Just like as a guy I'm learning to pen myself up more sexually, I'd like to see more women open up their intellects and show off their minds because IMO that's what makes her a keeper vs. a random girl with nothing going on that I might fuck once and never talk to again.
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I think magic mike is gross and for old ladies so I didn't watch it.
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Idduno I don't care what other people do but what upsets me is:

1. I don't want to fuck a lot of girls. I don't want to date a lot of girls. I'm not attracted to or interested in a lot of girls. It's annoying to me that when I meet one I like they've often had literally 10X more partners then me AND that they act like it's a problem. Sure if I was a super sexy dude and it was easy for me to have a lot of sex maybe I would have done more, but I'm not and it takes a lot of time to get something going.

2. They've had a ton of sex but they suck at sex. And of course they've had so much sex that they think they know everything. All they do is lay there and get fucked and give mechanical blowjobs. Oh the 7 dwarves and the high school football team never complained, why should I?

3.Any kinky thing you wanna do they already did with some guy they hate now so they never wanna do it again.

4. Do they have STDs? You don't know because inquiring anything about this DESTROYS YOUR RELATIONSHIP IMMEDIATELY. This should be 1st step in having a sexually liberated culture, we've kinda fucked up I think.

5. Getting in the regular dude line for sex. This is hard to explain. Like if you were a really sexy charming guy she would fuck you asap, but because you're just average she has to take a long time and screen you and make sure you're good enough before she fucks you. This wouldn't bother me that much (just kinda lame) but nowdays there's a good chance she's still fucking someone else while dating you.
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>>18231096
Wow I guess I have a lot to say, I'M SURE EVERYONE WILL READ ALL THIS

This is actually mean so don't read it if you're afraid of having your feeling hurt.
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6. The 30+ year old ex super sluts who get fat and ugly and suddenly want a real relationship....
Idduno I get it that everyone want's love but... you know there's guys out there who fucked everything that moved for 15 years and then got fucking fat too....

7. Single slut moms, almost the same but they can be any age and ruin their body to the point where they can't fuck the guys the really want to fuck anymore and THEN IT'S TIME FOR A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH AN average GUY.
wtf, get out of the hot dog line and raise your kids.


8. Diminishing returns in general. This is kinda off subject but as time/age goes one women in general have just gotten uglier, bitchier and require more time to have any WANTED experience with. I mean they're a bloated, stinky shadow of what they were at 16-18 and SOMEHOW now they need to know how much money you make and all you past history..... why would I even look twice?

Why the fuck would I or anyone else try harder for women that are uglier, fatter and more literally and figuratively fucked up?

In fact if I knew how to make a graph I would to show the irony? of how often I would get a GF in the late 90s when they were all skinny and nice versus going into the 2000s and 2010s as they get more and more bitchy and physically disgusting and behaviorally disgusting. [/spoiler]

And I say that just descriptively. I don't truly find them disgusting, they're just not what I want.

10. Being nice, respectful, friendly as a heterosexual male requires you to act at least plausibly attracted to all of these women.

Why? Why am I mega asshole if I'm not in anyway interested in women who 9/10 AREN'T INTERESTED IN ME EITHER?

Has nothing to do with sex but whatever.
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>>18228983
Not every young people are like that, just the majority.
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Doesn't posting a pervy picture like that kind of, you know, make you a hypocrite? You can't complain women are sluts and then be a giant sleaze about it.

>inb4 the women chose to wear those booty shorts!
Probably not, if it's their uniform.
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>>18230511
>I don't mind women who've slept around as long as they own it and aren't hopelessly needy and insecure, using men as a crutch to fill some void.

And realistically how many women do you think can have many casual sex partners and not have it take a toll on their mind/outlook on men, sex and life in a negative way.
I'm a man whore and I can tell the difference when I sleep with a woman that has gotten around and a women that has had maybe a boyfriend or two. The former is much more jaded and it kinda feels like they're trying to fill more than just one hole.

I'm sure there are women that can have casual sex with many partners in a healthy way but I believe that it's such a small percentage and the mental effects of hookup culture has not been studied enough post internet/social media.

We are talking about literally clicking through potentially unlimited partners and at the touch of a button have them being dicked down and then never see/talk to each other again.
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>>18228983
>>18229000

You guys live in a bubble.

My gf and her friends only post cute kittens, angels and prayers on Instagram.
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This thread...
>Jews corrupt society
>(((they)))
>degeneracy
>1918 Munich uprising
>the holocaust should have happened
>Kali Yuga

How did every last board on 4chan become filled with literal Nazis?
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>>18231745
>if I sleep around its ok
>if women sleep around its degeneracy
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>>18231791
I never said that it's ok if I do it hence the man whore line
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>>18231096
>>18231168
I am not sure why have you typed all of this. To me it seems you are doing some mental gymnastic to defend yourself against some generalized reverse slut shaming against men who dont want to date certain women or have given up the dating game entirely.

But you have a point. But why have you even typed it?
Just make sure you know what you want from life and you will be good :-)

>>18231774
I dont know why are you on 4chan, but i like reading different views on various subjects and putting label on anything you dont agree with seems a little counter productive to me.

As to the whole thread, let me add wisdom of my own:
It doesnt matter what random people are doing around you. Keep few good friends, your close family members and be nice person yourself. If you want to find good partner, patience is the key. Making tinder account and complaining that you get no matches in 3 days due to not posting your naked body to compete for horny boys seems sikly to me.
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>>18231840
>As to the whole thread, let me add wisdom of my own:
It doesnt matter what random people are doing around you. Keep few good friends, your close family members and be nice person yourself. If you want to find good partner, patience is the key.

such wise wow
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>>18231874
>post smug face buddist man photo
>makes me realize i unknowingly spreading some meme tier religion ideas

Now i dont even know how much sarcasm you used in your post and if you agree or disagree or just shitposting.

This is why /adv/ is best board!
:-D

Am i buddhist now? I always felt more like some christian atheist combo.
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>>18231840
>I dont know why are you on 4chan, but i like reading different views on various subjects and putting label on anything you dont agree with seems a little counter productive to me.
This /pol/ Jew shit is getting really fucking tedious. They interject it absolutely everywhere.
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>>18231896
>absolutely everywhere
I suggest you to adopt some sport so you have an excuse to go outside more and occupy yourself with something else if you find this tiresome.
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>>18229002
Except when you're 40
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Young girls always were like that.
It's just that patriarchal society used to forbid or hide the display of their true nature.
Now they're allowed to show it.

The root reason for this behaviour is that girls age like milk, and they know it.
There's only a short period in their life (14-21yo) where - unless they are fat or ugly - their asses and faces are checked out by all men of all ages.
They see it, they know it, and they take full advantages of it.

Girls don't get more mature as they grow older, they just realize all eyes are not on them anymore and that younger and cuter hoes have taken over.
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>>18229093
How the fuck can you feel ashamed of your gender? Are you autistic?
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Did you forget how stupid you were when you were a teenager? During your teen years your biggest concern is how many people accept and love you, and this is the way women get attention early in life, by displaying a little more to get the guy's attention. It runs down over the years until they give up, cut their hair short and become Ellen.
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>>18231919
Hit the nail on the head.

Most girls age horribly (genetics + shit lifestyle / eating crap) and they know it. Like 80% of girls are un-fuck able passed 30.

So unless you forbide them to do so, young girls will profit of these few years and act like that.
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>>18232014
Why is this an understood fact by the majority of society, yet if you don't want to fuck the massive flock of whore cunts before they hit the wall, something is wrong with -you-?

Double standard or no?
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>>18232035
Only women and hypocrites would criticize you for admitting wanting a cute and fit girl with a tight pussy, no matter what your age is.

Problem is that women are 50% of the population, and most men are cowards and hypocrites who want to look good in the eyes of women and society in general.

Thus you would be called a psycho.

Just don't give a fuck about it.
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>>18231894
I agree with it but it's pretty useless advice
In the same tier as b urself
It's true but it doesn't really help people
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>>18232014
Oh look, another teenager virgin who thinks he is an expert on what dating and sex is like in your 30s.

Just leave, kiddo. This is a board for adults. You are only making yourself look even more stupid.
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>>18232173
I never said I was an expert or that all girls in their 30s were ugly.
Just that the average 18yo girl is far hotter than the average 35yo girl.
That's the reason why men look for "18yo/teen porn" and not "35yo" porn...
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>>18229566
They are.
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>>18232342
You have no idea what a 35 year old girl looks like, though. You're thinking someone 50+.
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>>18228983
>I don't like when girls post slutty pictures of themselves on the internet
>I only like when men take pictures of slutty women and post it on the internet

Male hypocrisy is amazing. Sex culture goes both ways. We are built to go after romance/sex, it is one of the most primal urges around. Women post those pictures because that's what is currently making the modern young woman desirable. Men like it, people want people to find them attractive, so girls post what guys like
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>>18229266
Soon
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>>18232498
He never said that you fucking retard
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>>18232498
Fewer and fewer young people are using Facebook nowadays, senpai. I deactivated my profile because the only thing I ever used was messenger. If you're looking to support this thesis, look at Instagram and Snapchat. Facebook has jumped the shark.
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>>18232565
This was meant for Opie, I don't know why I responded here. Pic related.
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>>18229000
I live in LA and am very well traveled and I can say with certainty that California is in its own fucking fantasy land and LA is in an even smaller bubble within that bubble containing probably the worst people in the US.

California is truly a shithole in many ways. That's not to say other places are perfect but if you base your understanding of anything using California as your example, you're likely to be wrong about almost everything.
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>>18232855
And just as an interesting fact, jews have California totally on lockdown. The same goes for New York. It's interesting that the two states with the highest amount of jewish control are both extremely liberal to a fault.
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Women aren't worse now than ever. That's a myth. Now you keep playing that moral game where you try and justify your lack of success because "they're not even worth trying" or you come to terms with the fact that you can't deal with your fears of rejection.
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>>18232911
>Women are never wrong and they're never infallible!
>You just need to MAN UP and have more game, bro
>If you can't have me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best blah blah

Fucking hell, no, lol
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>>18233444
Your cynicism is showing anon. This is why you won't succeed.
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>mfw cute and fit 5ft Turkish girlfriend who lifts, does pole dancing but only for a fit body, doesn't post anything pole dancing related or fitness related shit on her social media (no showing butt in mirror pose) and only had one boyfriend a long 6 years relationship before me and on friday and saturday nights she watches anime with me or we both train hard at the gym or cook together
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>>18233466
>being cynical, frustrated or upset at anything is bad
>le women will pick up on your le negative attitude and le reject you xd

Fun fact: a lot of dudes who score a lot come across far more misogynistic than I ever could. And I'm not even a woman hater to start, I'm just very careful around relationships. I don't want to waste my time dealing with bullshit and nobody's going to tell me that nothing is wrong with any woman ever, that's simply not true.
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>>18233473
You're making me cry.
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>>18233533
There there bro.
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>>18233473
> mfw handsome and fit 6ft turkish bf who lifts, makes crazy money but only because he loves his job, does not boast or spend money on bullshit cars or anything, I am the first gf he ever genuinely *loved* and friday and saturday he watches anime with me or we both train hard at the gym or cook together
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>>18233511
You keep mentioning this line of thought about women being infallable, but no one even states that. This is your outlook bro, probably tainted by numerous rejections. It doesn't matter how much chad or Stacy scores, because at the end of the day, they are the ones fulfilling a base instinct without concern for the consequences. I'm not disagreeing that this society is going morally bankrupt, but how you choose to react to it (i.e. MAN THE FUCK UP) is what matters
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>>18229002
This is a bad thing. The family is almost dead, only rich people get married, its mandatory for most women to work. And the feminists and celebrities are cheering and pushing it further. This is extremely bad, and it needs to end
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>>18233594
that guy might be cynical as fuck but the general feeling among most guys, yes even ones that have lots of sex is this: girls nowadays are pretty fucking slutty. yes you could bitch and moan how there were always sluts, but its never been normalized this much.

>women arent worse now than ever
yes they are. they dont want children and have way too much power. why do you think people arent getting married? because men get fucked in divorce and women have everything to gain from it.

women can pretty much do ANYTHING right now and get away with it. hell, bitch boys will even defend them at every turn. do this to anyone and itll go to their head, its no wonder women are as fucked up as they are right now

and thats not cynicism, thats just how it is
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>>18233594
I bring it up because you come into this thread with your bullshit "hurr you just need to get laid brah women aren't that bad brah"

Does it mater if I've been rejected often or not? Are you going to tell me that I SHOULDN'T feel the way I feel because you don't agree with it? Because that's complete horse shit.

You're the one who keeps prattling on and trying to change the subject/derail with talks of rejection etc. and my thinking is it must make you uncomfortable to know that men feel jaded by the way women act, even outside of how often the guy in question scores. I'll say it again: even more 'successful' guys do not all "love women" the way you think, and oh those guys actually get rejected a lot too, that's part of the "game" that we're expected to play for women. Get a clue.
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It may be a little sexist but I mostly agree with you. It's no one's fault really. They can't really help it and you can't help but look. There are plenty of girls who don't have a finsta but you can't tell because they don't have a finsta.
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>>18228983
They don't lack self-respect. YOU'RE the one who doesn't respect them (and for an absolutely TRIVIAL reason too).I feel bad for you, dude.

Especially since summer's coming up, you should know that a woman's worth isn't proportional to how much skin she shows.

I can't believe I have to explain this to you.
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>>18233594
Honestly my main issue with your attitude here is that you make it sound as if men are "supposed" to just endure rejections and place all the burden on themselves to be more "successful", not the other way around. Like we somehow owe it to women to become more attractive to them so we don't get rejected*. Like we aren't allowed to think ill of them or at the very least be frustrated at all - no, that's not what women want to hear. They want us to "Man Up"

*Being attractive is not a buffer against all rejection, and frankly, insisting that men who are "good with women" never get rejected or would never have problems with women is just ignorant on your part. I know guys who get plenty of play that also get turned down. It has to do with timing and demographics, not how attractive or unattractive the man is. It also doesn't somehow "explain away" any shitty behavior on womens' part, be it perceived or objective.
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>>18234168
>a woman's worth isn't proportional to how much skin she shows
>women being sluts
>trivial

who the hell respects a slut? they give their greatest asset (body) for next to nothing and her being a slut usually means you cant trust her in a long term relationship so shes pretty much useless as a prospect for marriage

theyre pretty much only good for sex at that point
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>>18229000

There are actually quite a few women who don't engage in that kind of behavior. Most have a few hook up stories, but more women than not tend towards relationships. These women tend to not be very vocal about their sex lives ( because they aren't attention whores), and are the ones you'll see with the same guy for years, usually are more focused on careers and their education. Of course you hear about the exploits of sluts all the time because they want the attention, but for every slut your have another 4 more or less decent girls and even a prude.

It is the same thing with how feminists complain about how these days all the men are brazenly disrespectful and come on to them in creepy ways in public. 1/10 do that and they notice those dudes, while the other 9/10 who walked past them just don't show up on their radar because they were minding their own business.

The idea that college aged women are constantly out getting fucked is a joke. Most of the women I know through university work 20+ hours a week while trying to excel in their degree. The party girls who fuck around all the time end up on academic probation by the time they hit third year and end up working at a strip club or as waitresses.

>>18229700
Not true at all. You can put effort into your appearance and look beautiful and still attract men without showing off that much skin. Guys who wants a quick fuck won't notice you, but guys who actually want a a girlfriend who they can feel some degree of exclusivity with don't want a chick whose naked body is plastered all over everyone's hard drives.

>>18230318
This is a complete non-sequitor. Nothing about having sexual jealousy over your woman displaying herself sexually to other men entails not thinking that women can make their own choices or are humans. That's like saying that women who get mad at their boyfriends for flirting with other girls in front of them aren't recognizing the man's agency or treating them as human.
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>>18232855
>living in LA with the biggest music scene and celebrity scene in the U.S
>complaining about it

Let's trade places.
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>>18234923
Hahahah.
I mean, if you want.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
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>>18234199

>somehow owe it to women

>It also doesn't somehow "explain away" any shitty behavior on womens' part

>that's not what women want to hear.

Fun fact, women are not a hive mind!

You structured your whole post like they were so I just want to clear that up for you. Perhaps consider moving to a cave in the woods and meditating for the next 20 years on the sheer breadth and intensity of your ignorance.

Once you stop viewing the individual women you've had interactions with as representatives of their entire gender this whole "being an adult with a functioning brain stem" thing will become just crystal clear. I swear.
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>>18229227
>I've started to question if Hitler actually did have the right idea about the jews.

WTF man?
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>>18234941
To be clear I'm not OP and only made a handful of posts on this thread. I don't see women as a hive mind, I just refuse to be told that every time I'm a little frustrated it's only because of le rejection. I don't even have to be rejected to see women acting like shit. I don't think they are all shit, but I get cautious when I see a friend go through hell and I'm completely understanding when he's pissed off.
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Do you think all women have more than one Insta profile? If the answer is no, then think if you were a girl who was not into doing those things, what would you be doing? Maybe the people you know are not the people you should be around if you are looking for the rare few. I know of girls that don't like social media because they like their privacy. And because they had a loving dad that was a real man. That kind of girl is what you would want.
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