I've been with my boyfriend for 4 and a half years and our

>>18179400
does he have a job that can support a family?
most of the time when a guy says what your dude is saying it means he currently lacks the ability to jump to the next phase of life.

>>18179400
It's a common problem and it sounds like in your case it's a dealbreaker.
You want kids, he doesn't, and a healthy relationship doesn't involve pushing your partner to do something they really don't want to.
So, you either decide you'll go without having kids, which sounds like it's not going to happen, or you move on.
Don't pressure him into having kids, it's just going to leave you in a toxic relationship or a single mother.
Ultimately, this is one of those no real middle ground issues which make or break relationships, and it's pretty apparent the latter is the case here.

>>18179417
He makes more than both his parents did while raising him, so technically yes. He grew up white trash though. I think he'd put no water in the idea of life phases though.

>>18179419
I just like.. it fucking sucks because based on everything I've seen in my life we have like, the best relationship I've heard of 2 people having. Like I can choose to end the best relationship I've ever had with another human being, based on shit I think I might feel 5 years from now, and then get it wrong.. end up unhappy and alone anyway. I just dont get why he thinks having kids is so stupid. I mean its like, a pineapple on pizza thing I get there's no explaining someone to have a different opinion but.. fuck

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>>18179426
>grew up white trash
ok, a lot of my friends are white trash and they whine and bitch about not knowing what 'being a good dad' means. he probably thinks he'll be a shitty dad (protip: if he's worried about that then he'll probably be a good dad).
you should straight up tell him that you want him to be the father of your children, and if he's not down then it might be time to move on. he's gotta be into it, though, or else you're gonna be stuck with a emotionless husk who increasingly resents you for crushing his extended adolescence.

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He's already getting all the benefits of having you without marrying you so it makes sense he's not in a rush to make a lifelong commitment. This is one of the depressing realities of dating in the post-sexual revolution West. You're having fun now sure but what happens if he decides he doesn't want to go any further than just having you as a girlfriend? You will have wasted years of your life on him, not to mention the heartbreak of losing the best relationship you've ever had and the baggage the next guy will have to deal with afterwards.

>>18179400
If I had a gf like you I'd impregnate her the second I'd be out of uni and had a stable income.

>>18179400
You can try the famous manipulation. Drop the birth control and keep doing what you are doing without telling him.

Then tell him you are pregnant. I know it is shit behavior, but sometimes you have to push males into action. It has several outcomes:
1) he will get over with it and you end up with a baby.
2) he will not get over with it, you break up and get rod of baby.

Either way your life will move forward. Dont wait too long. The longer you wait, the slower your body will recover from birth and the bigger chance of defect baby.

Dont wait, babies are cool.