I think if I was a girl I'd be constantly worried men are

>>18174799
can confirm this is how i feel very often. im also so scared every male thinks im stupid and less than him and basically worthless. i think that's not really far from the truth and i often feel really distressed because of that lmao

>>18174799
I'd assume that's how attractive women feel. Speaking as a butterface with shit for brains, I'm paranoid that anyone who is desperate enough to date me is just using me for practice.

Sorry to say, but thank Christ you're worried.

I'm worried about dudes tricking girls into getting pumped and dumped,
while all I'm looking for is a girl with enough self-respect and wit to only settle for someone that actually loves her for who she is.

I hope there's at least 3 billion more women like you on Earth.
Fingers crossed.

>>18174799
Not exactly.
It's kind of easy for me to tell nice guys from all those who could make me feel like that.
But yeah, there are so many guys who feel free to creepily look at you or to approach you in the streets when you're walking alone, and that makes you feel really uncomfortable.
I can't even get why they do it, ofc it's not going to work so why the fuck bothering me?

Some do, but by far most eventually learn to tell the difference between a guy having a real interest in them and a guy tolerating them for (future) sex. Depending on their social skills and sensitivity this takes shorter or longer, and some need to get burned a couple of times before they learn to distinguish, but eventually most get the hang of it.

>>18174920
This is fucking sad, though.

ending up with a girl with commitment-issues because some Chad Thundercock used her for sex years before,
and me having to patch the wounds of that hurt even though I'd genuinely love her.

How come people don't realize that there are traps in the wilds only after they've stepped in one?
I hope to god I meet a girl who's known this all her life and only got with someone who loved her back.

>>18174799
Can confirm it is a worry, a justified worry. Even the guys that play all nice and want to be your friend all have one thing in mind. From the time I was 12 had guys trying to get my panties off. They will say and do anything.

If I was a girl I would be thinking how I can take advantage of men and make money off it too.

Is this how women feel?

>>18174937
That's how some women (i.e. sluts) feel.
So in a way; yes.

>>18174931
>and me having to patch the wounds
Welcome to loving someone. Either you are patching the wounds of their ex or you are patching the wounds of their parental neglect or you are patching the wounds of their friendless childhood - or anything else. Whatever it is, they will bring some grief into the relationship. Everyone has mental scars. This by itself does not make a person damaged, it's the human condition.

Just because she became more wary of people she doesn't know well yet does not mean she has commitment issues.

Because you learn about life by living it. When you are young and someone shows you attention and is sweet to you, it's easy to trust them. It's normal to not be guarded and distrustful right away. It's normal to not see the red flags right away.
Some people can, but that's a personal matter, a matter of character and upbringing and experience. And of how sly this person is about their motives.
Besides, not all men who do this are sociopaths. Especially young guys can simply have a hard time distinguishing their rampant lust from real feelings, and only realize after the deed that a lot of their "feelings" have vanished. That's a learning process, too.

As I said, other people have other hurt. Hell, a relationship with someone who thoroughly loved you ending in an ugly way can also do lots of damage.

>>18174947
Damn, that's pretty damn depressing.

Still feels like it's worth waiting a few years between relationships and getting over someone completely,
instead of running to someone else to heal,
which would perpetuate the notion that you'd need a relationship to get over your previous one.

I wouldn't mind having to comfort someone for a bad childhood or loss of a parent,
but I wouldn't go as far as trying to convince them I'm better than their previous partner.

That would just hurt my pride, really.

>>18174946
Only after being abused, pumped, dumped and lied to again and again. You finally become numb and learn to protect yourself.

>>18174956
I don't think it is. Everyone gets disappointed and hurt in life at times and you usually tuck that away. When you find someone you have a really strong connection with that is that much more intimate than even a close friendship, that old hurt can sometimes pour out and finally someone you love can hold you and hear you out.
Besides, I am not talking about weekly sessions. More old wounds surfacing at some point in a long term relationship.

>instead of running to someone else to heal
I did not say or imply that this is the case. Rebounds are their own category. You can "get over" hurt but if it cuts deep enough (like losing a parent) some stuff will always be able to bring it up. That doesn't mean you care on a day to day basis.

>trying to convince them I'm better than their previous partner
No normal person would expect this of you. If people are sharing hurt from a past relationship with a new partner it is not "I miss them and want them back" but "it hurt me so much how it was over without a warning and now I sometimes worry as I grow to love you more and more that the same will happen because I did not see it coming last time either". Or "it makes me so sad to look back on how I allowed him to treat me, why did I not look out for myself".
You can be sad about something related to an old relationship without being wistful about the relationship, basically. The latter obviously does not have a place in a new relationship. I guess unless they (ex) are dead, that's a special case.

If i was a girl i would probably be a hooker. Like why not do something i like and get paid for it?

Its so frustrating being a below average hetro male because youre going to live in complete celibacy unless you fucking pay your way out.

>>18174964
hm.
Good points, anon.

I take it you've had your fair share of lemons.
Thanks a bunch, my dude.

>>18174964
Good guy anon giving based responses to OP's bait makes me smile

>>18174966
>social stigma
>being treated with anything from casual condescension to aggression/violence by clients
>risk of STDs, some life-altering
>having to fulfill all the weird requests people ask of hookers because normal people don't want to do them (stepping on balls territory)
>constantly having rushed sex with minimal attention to foreplay or anything that makes it better for you (clitoral stuff etc)

Sex work typically gives women so many lousy sexual experience that it greatly stunts their ability to love sex in any situation at all. The human mind is very trainable, if you feel sexual sensations constantly while also feeling disgust, alienation, sadness, fear etc you will eventually loathe sexual sensations themselves.

Yes. they do and say anything for it.
Doesn't mean one has to fall for it or be too trusting or even be sad. It's how they're biologically constructed.

Wish there was another actual race to choose from at times..like elf,orc,demon...but we're all stuck with human men.

>>18174977
So does porn and your hand when thats your only outlet for sexual needs.

Eventually you become fat, old and impotent.

>>18174799
I dont feel this way and the few times Ive felt I was a guy just wanted sex it made me feel sexy.
I mean I know enough to realize not having sex with that person is the best idea and generally dont want to have sex with that person but I dont feel personally offended in any way

>>18174978
I beg to fucking differ.
Granted; there aren't many good guys left in the world,
but there's some dude out there who will love you for who you are, and only for that reason.

In the mean time, I'l try to spread my word as best I can.

Keep your hopes up, femanon.
You've probably been hurt before, but don't let the past rule your future.

>>18174989
>love her for who she is
Love her despite her 200lbs?
Probably not.

>>18174977
I danced full nude, full contact for two years and it didn't take me long to be sick of men. You want to kill your sexual attraction, be in a room full of ogling, grabby, shit talking dicks that believe they are gods gift to women with 20 bucks in their hands.

If I was a woman, I'd probably spend most of my time at home..

I'd have probably gotten raped by my moms ex bf, who molested me as a kid, except I'd have probably gotten fully fucked and I'd be some trainwreck at a noise show into "bad boys" or something.. because in my woman brain I'd probably feel more protected in their company..

Or maybe I'd crave the stability or a hard working guy, that I'd be a hard worker myself.. only to leave my home situation behind..

Or I'd have joined the military..

Who knows, I'd probably be really sexually repressed due to issues.

>>18175037
I mean shit, I haven't been in a relationship since 2008.. can't imagine how unhappy I'd be as a woman placed under that dry spell.

I've realized though, that most of this shit is all talk, and none of us can actually imagine our trajectory, not without living it.

>>18174830
Pretty much.

I've never dated someone who approached me/hit on me/whatever. I've always gotten to know people REALLY well before dating them. Mainly because of this fear, I just don't trust guys to not use me for sex because I've seen what they're capable of (of course women too, but in this context I don't really think about how dating women would be). I've had lots of men act as if I'm inherently inferior to them, probably because I'm a girl and have always been around older people. When I was 15 I distinctly remember a guy talking over me, me saying "one sec just let me finish" and him saying "go fuck yourself cunt" and continuing. That pretty much sums up how it feels to deal with guys who see you as an object. Blech

I'm falling for a guy I've been friends with for six years and I like this feeling way more than I like crushing on some jerk who doesn't know I exist.

>>18174799

I always felt that way but i have body dysmorphic disorder so i feel like nobody geniunely wants me.
Add to that, when i did finally open up to a guy and gave him my heart i was cheated on.
It took me years to recover and then it happened again, twice.
Now i feel numb. I know it's easy for me to find a partner but i have never felt like someone's first choice.
I lowkey hate men because i fall in love so deeply and im a loyal person but i feel like they'll always be looking to upgrade after awhile.

Makes me rage when i see them saying hypocritical things about women wanting Chads when many of them have gfs and wives they'd leave in a heartbeat for the first Stacy to smile at them.

Yeah I get this, guy I'm with now wants to fuck everytime I go over. kinda shitty

>>18174985
That's a mature answer. It's mens nature, no reason to take offense in that. If you're good at managing distance and not getting their hopes up you're good

>>18175113
I made a thread on LGBT like a month ago asking the trannies how they are being treated differently after transition and passing as the opposite gender.
One of the unanimous answers was that they got/get taken noticably less serious as women by other women and men. One trannies said you could basically say she's now a child with tits (it's exaggerated but you get the point). They said is was easier for a man to get respect. Pretty cool how what you feel fits right into that.

>>18175177
desu, I always feel the need to show a girl that I want to fuck her, even on a first date, I feel like she'd get offended and think that I don't find her attractive otherwise

>>18175203
>trannies don't get taken seriously
Maybe it's because they're mentally ill.

I thought women enjoyed sex too. Why do you all make it seem like a chore

>>18175221
rape, daddy issues, self loathing, demisexuality, infompatibility, frustration, too fast paced...

I'm a guy and I can imagine so many reasons.

When I die, I wish I became peace of mind in humanity. Future generations deserve better than to learn things the hard way.

>>18175218
The fenale to male trannies said it too. For them it was the reverse case, that they got taken more serious

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>be a chick
>dude checks me out and knows whats good
>i blame him for having balls and a male brain
>approaches me and """tricks"""" me into dropping my pants
>regret being easy the morning after
>forget it ever happened a week later

problem goes both ways - there are Chadbros banging sluts left and right adding nothing to society, and dumb Stacies who can't keep their legs closed, making other chicks "look bad" due to the female bell-curve stuff.

The disease is called hedonism. Women should be more appreciative of the fact certain men (such as I) had a small count of sex partners. Men should not go fucking around like subhuman, impulsive monkeys. There is no-one to "blame" and this victim mentality needs to end.

>>18175218
Even the mentally ill aren't treated as children.

>>18174830
Hey, I have this girl friend that seems just like you. I'm really interested in her but everytime she gets excited and starts having a good time she ends up riding the coaster down hill into being sad. Her friend says she likes me but is worried about all the stuff you said. Is there anything that I could say or do that would exceedingly help push the fact I do like her and don't think less of her or any thing?

>>18175203
I think the term child with tits fit's so well, because in many cases, women act like children in the eyes of men. Emotionality, tantrums, anger about other girls "boytoys", not taking a job serious, not choosing their man based on logical arguments.

Women will only get treated as worthwile in male culture (e.g. workspace) if they individually start to play on the same professional level as men.
But instead they often show no interest in getting promoted stating "more work for me, less time to do what I want"
No interest in helping the company advance "my children come first"
no interest in setting personal battles or sexual shenanigans aside for company wellfare

I really don't wonder, why a lot of HR guys take guys in a heartbeat.

Not saying every girl is like this, but the average male has all of this and average women don't play in the same league.

>>18174799
Sometimes. Also you worry a lot about not being cute because a lot of your social status is determined by being attractive...But you don't want to be too attractive or people will try to take advantage of you for sex or think you are trying to use sex to get things instead of hard work. Other than that, being a girl is like being a guy except you get periods.

Yes and no. I've pretty much come to accept that any guy I meet in my real life that tries to befriend me is looking to fuck but that's just based on experience. Guys online (surprisingly) are actually a lot better, seem to have better morals and don't just want to talk to me because I have a vagina- and don't stop talking to me if I don't give them something in return.

>>18174931
The answer you seek can be summed up in one word:

Fatherhood

If girls weren't so boring, uninteresting and most of all shitty friends most of the time this wouldn't be a problem famalam.

Also, you can like a girl as a person AND want to penis her. And sometimes guys just want girls for cuddling. but mostly penising.

>>18174904
Because they think it will work.

>>18175344
>not choosing their man based on logical arguments.

What the fuck does this even mean?

>>18175398
It means they're having sex with people they're attracted to instead of me.

Why can't these women see how superior I am?

>>18174799
Justifiably. I've been assaulted multiple times.

One funny instance in particular was when some french guy decided it was a great idea to stick his tongue down my throat on a flight out of DFW. I was talking about the cocaine trade from Columbia and BAM, there's the tongue. Hands too. After I and several other people told him to fuck off, he kept asking me for my number and if he could be my "student" that night (I'm a teacher).

This is just the most humorous account I can think of. This doesn't include actual rape with has happened to me as well.

It's a fucked up world OP. I'm going to Copenhagen soon though so I'm looking forward to being in a place that's the least amount of fucked up. Do what you can to make the world less shitty for women and everyone else too, OP.

Being a woman has certain aspects of life that you grow accustomed to, the same as men. Men are raised to be "men" and women are raised to be "women" and there are a myriad of pressures and challenges that come with either responsibility. Constantly being in fear of betrayal and exploitation isn't healthy but that shouldn't take away from the fact that it is an unfortunate reality. Life is hard for everyone. As human beings all we want is to be loved and respected and special and our desperation to garner all of these things from our relationships often take very ugly, reprehensible turns. People act like shit heads and abusers and vile propaganda peddlers all because deep down we have different ways of dealing with our feelings of loneliness, rejection, dysmorphia and disillusionment. Some have the emotional capacity to process this misery and others respond with more extreme measures.

Take this board for example. Just browsing through the thread I can see there is a typical shit ton of /r9k/ nonsense in here. While women worry that men are taking advantage of them men worry that women don't want them or that they aren't worthy of love and affection so they respond by being angry and accusing women of not being worthy of THEIR love or THEIR affection. They hurt women before they can get hurt themselves and wrap themselves up in a very familiar anger and vitriol that they can easily use to disengage and invalidate any criticism.

This, naturally, is hallmark of adolescence but with the emergence of the internet age and a generation of emotionally disconnected kids this process is becoming harder and harder to uncouple from the young psyche.

Anyways, long story short, women worry about different shit than men do and both sides think the other side has it easy. Its a hilariously ironic shit fest that we all spend so much time hating each other for being different when in reality, we're more identical than anything.

From life i just started to assume most men just want to have sex, not because i think im particularly attractive of anything, but because its understood a lot of men will settle when it comes to pussy. So unfortunately, most of my correspondences with men remain pretty cold and stoic until they i get to understand more of their personalities. But even then they fucking surprise me.

Depends on who you're willing to give a chance. I have to fall in love first as friends and they have to be very open and honest so I doubt I'll land myself some guy who is just using me. Don't search for love and let it come to you I guess.

>>18175504

What makes you superior?
just curious

As a man who's turning 30 this year, with an above average income and decent, if average, looks, I'm constantly worried that the only reason women are suddenly noticing me is because their fucking around when they were younger didn't exactly work out for them in the long run, so now they're defaulting to me, because I have it somewhat made.

>>18174830
too bad dear nature is not fair and it made you inferior to men. sexual dimorphism favors males and not females.

>>18175922
Oh god im worried about this too. But in reality you'll never know even if she makes more than you she may view your income as n attractive trait. I think you can sort out gold diggers by seeing how much they give in return whether it's time or care or money of their own. Just like a nice ass or nice pair if breasts make a woman more attractive for some men I think status and income do the same for men's attractiveness to some women.

This is a good thread.

>>18175922
don't even settle. your big brain has overpower your little brain by that age. you should be smart enough to figure out women are a bad business deal. the laws are only there to protect her and to be used against you because you have a penis. if you get her pregnant then you have to pay her child support and you never get to see your children every again because the courts are on her side. also the courts want to make money out of you by extracting resources from you to give to the women and the government loves single mothers because it increases the size of the government.

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>>18175922

Have you considered the possibility that moderate success has given you a new air of confidence and stability that is more attractive to women in your age group?

Lets be honest, we ALL didn't make good dating choices when we were young, men included. We didn't pick the good girls, at least I didn't. Now I'm also in my early 30's and the reason I'm picking more stable, successful, confident women isn't because I want their money, its because I'm not a fucking child anymore and I know how to make better decisions.

Is that such a terrible thing that as people grow older, characteristics like stability and humility become more attractive? Is it so surprising that both men and women reach a certain age where they discover that they want different things and people in their life than when they were teenagers? Yes, gold diggers exist but I just don't buy this /r9k/ mentality that suggests that any woman who grows and matures or refines her taste as she gets older is some kind of opportunist. That's just the natural progression of maturing, if you ask me.

We make poor decisions when we're young and better ones when we're older. Everyone does, men and women. Fucking around when you're young doesn't work out for anyone, its the whole point of being young.

>>18175988
this is all real nice and dandy but those women will leg it from anon if they happen to come through financial difficulties
and those will happen to some of them

stop excusing whores for being whores, thats why they keep being whores

>>18175988
laws are not a meme you really don't have a saying if she get pregnant and if she want to have the child. also never seeing your children and having to go to jail for not paying child support is very real.

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>>18175922

27-year-old shy guy here. Becoming a not-so-shy guy... rapidly.

Employed at a hospital... janitor (shit happens). My pay isn't terrible. Slowly but surely moving up the chain, and got plans for a career in healthcare.

Honestly, I'm damn good-looking. But, I've never FELT that I was... never had the confidence, walking around knowing that I'm handsome as fuck. I'm realizing much more recently how important that is though, and that I need to exercise this mentality if I want to 'magnetize' a more attractive, smart, confident woman.

I look like Colin Farrell... what an amazing advantage to have in this world.

>>18174844
can confirm
first 2 partners were low standard

>1st was kinky chubby girl with pretty face
>would be considered pretty if she weighed less

>2nd was butterface - great butt though

>>18175250
damn the girl with violet hair is actually beautiful

I guarantee she's the one who cares the least about SJW causes

>>18176028
What have you been doing for the last 9 years of your life?

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>>18175997

>this is all real nice and dandy but those women will leg it from anon if they happen to come through financial difficulties

That's a childish generalization and it deserves no logical consideration. If you end up with a bunch of girls whose only motivation to stick with you through a relationship is financial stability then the poor reflection is on your ability to attract trustworthy women, not womankind's inability to be trustworthy.

There are 7 billion people on this planet, anon. If you can't achieve some kind of genuine, happy relationship with a woman who loves you in that period its your fault.

>stop excusing whores for being whores, thats why they keep being whores

Stop trying to foster a conversation that negates taking any personal responsibility. That key point is the crux of all the /r9k/ horseshit that spills out of your mouth. I'm not going to discuss /r9k/ propaganda with you. "Women are whores" is not a legitimate argument for your failures with women.

If you can't find a good woman its because you're not a good man. Period.

>>18176007

Again, if you end up with a shitty woman its because you're a shitty man. Plenty of regular, average guys with no special skills, financial prowess or amazing abilities manage to find decent companions every day.

You're not owed a good woman. If you continue to be a judgmental shitbird who blames other people for your failures then you will continue to live the life of a loser. Decent women can smell your shitty attitude from a mile away and they avoid it like the plague.

>>18176050
Holy fuck dude

Shut down, good on you. The r9k mindset is seriously toxic as fuck, good on you for calling it out.

>>18176050
>>18176105
I used to laugh at white knights claiming toxicity and certain forums making you bitter but it appears the echo chamber really does the trick on some people. Day in and day out they hear their retarded generalisations reinforced so they slip into the mindset.

Wish there were a way to make those people step back and take a look at their lives while there's still hope for them but I'm not sure you can really change someone's mind on the internet. They only believe what they want to hear.

>>18174994
>not loving BBWs

>>18176043
Having seizures. Stocking shelves. Cleaning toilets. Working in fast food. Working at shady nightclubs. Working in warehouses. With criminals. Dodging punches/knives/cars. Riding a bike everywhere, year-round, in every kind of shitty NY weather. Waking up confused in ambulances, emergency rooms. Replacing destroyed bikes. Hemorrhaging hard-earned money unexpectedly. Caring for the elderly. Attending funerals. Witnessing deaths, young and old. Walking long distances. Witnessing the beauty, and finding reasons to keep going. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0b-2Jd7OVI

>>18175344
You sound young

>>18175533
Some chick followed me, held me and tried to kiss me after I said no 4 times and walked a way. I literally ducked under the kiss because she was going straight in. I laughed it off. Why do you see yourself as the poor victim?

>>18176186
Rape is no joke my friend.

>>18174830
>Sexism, the post

>>18174904
Because the only shitty advice your entire people's can come up with is "bee yourself/ confident", and you forget to say brolic.

>>18175344
This is some dumb shit right here. Women and men are equally likely to be professional or unprofessional - I've seen some major male tantrums at work, including men who couldn't put aside personal vendettas despite all reasoned arguments to the contrary. Yeah, women have children. Duh. That's biology. Doesn't mean you shouldn't hire them, or they can't do a damn good job at their career. You're just misogynist, get over it dude.

>>18174799
Yes.

>>18175988
Well said. The rest of you will eventually learn this is true, once your hormones settle down a bit. Older and wiser women and men tend to make better choices.

Woman, and pretty much yes. I went out last night, karaoke night, my friend was in the monthly final. Around 2PM the guys were getting more and more desperate and in the span of 15 minutes I had 5 guys hitting on me. I politely declined, yet one of the 5 guys grabbed me right between the legs; the second forcefully grabbed my head and kissed me, and the third cornered me against a wall and wouldn't move until I kissed him. I did not, after telling him I did not want to kiss him three times, I shoved him away as I was running out of patience. The other two accepted defeat and moved on, but in hindsight, these were the two good guys and the only guys I still think highly of from that night.

I don't understand how certain men believe this is what women want. And I'm sick of women playing the victim card as well.

>>18176869
I'd feel bad on behalf of all males if it wasn't against my principles to take responsibility for the decisions of others.

>>18176885
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
You're part of the problem, good sir.

>>18175954

> I think you can sort out gold diggers by seeing how much they give in return whether it's time or care or money of their own.

Yeah, but the thing is that there's plenty of people out there who will fake this shit in the beginning, and then default to whatever their actual state of mind is once they got you hooked.

>>18175988

I've been confident before. It's not that I was a shy, nerdy, meek kind of guy when I was younger. I wasn't. I guess I just didn't have the patience to play the usual mind and word games with them. I fucking hated it when they acted like they didn't know if we could go out on that day or some other day, when these girls were planning months in advance on what to wear, let alone where to go out and when.

>Lets be honest, we ALL didn't make good dating choices when we were young, men included. We didn't pick the good girls, at least I didn't.

Look, I'm not begrudging anyone dating when they were younger. I'm not looking for a pristine, never touched, never fucked girl here. All I want is someone I can respect, someone I can consider equal. When I see someone who was fairly dismissive of me before, but now suddenly that their well has dried up and I'm looking pretty good, I'm not just going to think "Oh she matured" because the truth is that she ran out of options and those other guys from before tossed her aside because even he realized she's not long-term relationship material.

>its the whole point of being young.

What? No, that's a fucking terrible thought.

It's not that you're supposed to be chaste, but fucking around in wild abandon is horrific.

>>18174799
I'm not really worried about it, I mean I know most of them are. After a certain amount of time you just learn how to deal with it and get used to it. Just learn how to say fuck off, and avoid girls nights out to the bar. Guys see that and it looks like a feeding frenzy, I always bring a guy with me when I grab a drink.

>>18176894
And what would you have me do?

>>18176894
Taking responsibility for the behaviour of other men is not the same as refusing to help someone out in a bad situation. Spewing platitudes like "I'm sorry on behalf of my gender" basically is doing nothing. The real question is one of intervention. Whether you'd do something if a girl you were with (or were aware of for some other reason) was being pushed around in this way.

This is more of an issue for younger people - 17 to 23ish - male or female. At that age for some reason it doesn't occur to you that you should like someone you are in a relationship with and that you don't treat people like shit if you really care about them.

As a guy what you'll likely find is that a lot of women were actually just using you for attention and validation. They never really liked you and it's why everything fucking sucked.

>>18176915
I think guys are pretty good about this actually, at least in groups. When a guy is crossing the line with a girl at a party or in a bar I always see an "Is this guy bothering you?"

>>18174964
I don't know who you are, but thank you. That was beautiful and honestly helped me figure out where I was in my own life.

>>18176906
>I always bring a guy with me when I grab a drink
Oh so that's what my female friend is doing.
I don't quite get it though, how is any guy (nice, good looking guys) supposed to approach her if she keeps me around.

>>18175344
this is spot on. and feminism makes this worse not better.

>>18176952
That's the point though, sometimes girls just don't wanna be hit on, whether the guy is good looking doesn't change that.

>>18175259
Beg go differ good sir. Have you been to a class for the retarded?

>>18176980
I'm gonna prank her next time. I'd tell the guys I'm her agent and she's an escort with reasonable rate.

>>18175292
Reassure her, say you love/care for her as person. Keep that up as time goes on. Look for opportunities to do things for her. She will love you

>>18174904
There is nothing wrong with approaching you in the streets you paranoid, stuck up cunt. God. No dude would waste a rape on a girl less than a 7/10.

>implying that you wouldn't be the biggest slut ever if you were a girl, sucking hundreds of men off and drowning in their sperm

>>18177020

I wouldn't.

For the same reason I'm not doing that as a man with other men: I'm not a degenerate.

>>18176990
It's funny because if he pays you and she doesn't reciprocate, he can't say you robbed him; he tried paying you for illegal activity. kek

Might lead to a fight but hey, fun night out, right?

>>18174830
As a male who's not into vagina it amazes me how blatantly whorish women are.

>>18175917
I am a supreme gentleman. These bitches need to learn to stop saying no to men like me who respect them instead of some Chad.

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>>18177227
It amazes you?

>>18174830
You clearly spend way too much time here.

I would never go out with someone I just got hit on by, and never use online dating for this very reason. I only date people I've known for a little while, and even then I worry that they don't respect my abilities, knowledge and intelligence.

So yeah, I do think like this. And not without reason- a lot of men do just want to use women for sex. It's very common.

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>>18177459
>they don't respect my abilities, knowledge and intelligence
wooow
lol
I think I know a woman who is the exact opposite.

>>18177498
What?

>>18177513
what?

>>18177515
What was the implication? I'm tired. Also I'm not her, I'm just lurking.

>>18177526
I just thought it's funny because there's a woman I know who is actually worried that she got hit on because she's a well respected female mathematician, I mean if guys tell her she's hot, she would doubt it.

Yes. Usually the only people who make any effort to talk to me are guys trying to get into my pants (and they figure out quickly that they will never get to) and nobody else seems to care.

Yes, but you can usually tell. The men who rudely and pointlessly yell at you in the street aren't going to respect your mind or accomplishments or talents. Neither are guys who hit on you at bars, or the men who talk to you in online dating.

They just want you for sex, nothing more nothing less, and as I don't want that I tend to try to date people in my uni classes or clubs.

>>18177541
>they will never get to
then who do you have sex with? your friends? family?

>>18177575
I occasionally have one night stands with Girls

>>18177589
ugh
sounds like this chick I met during my conference in Prague.
Worst roommate ever. Totally slut running around naked but doesn't fuck guys.

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>>18177589

Kind of. Or maybe subverted in my case.. I wouldn't categorize myself as being very attractive, but I often feel guys (in my class, friends of friends, random encounters etc.) judge me by whether or not they'd want to fuck me. Before even knowing me, they seem to dismiss me all-together, because I guess I look sloppy and don't wear cool or revealing clothes.

Makes me feel like less of a person and wish I was a man sometimes, because they'd take me serious despite not wanting to fuck me.

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>>18175988
You've just taken the /r9k/ concept of "women want to settle down with a nice stable guy" and dressed it up to sound good. Fucking kek

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>>18176896

>now suddenly that their well has dried up and I'm looking pretty good, I'm not just going to think "Oh she matured" because the truth is that she ran out of options and those other guys from before tossed her aside because even he realized she's not long-term relationship material.

This is nothing but a bunch of red-pilled bullshit propoganda that has no business coming out of an adult man's mouth. I now understand why women have been historically adverse to getting to know you.

>What? No, that's a fucking terrible thought. It's not that you're supposed to be chaste, but fucking around in wild abandon is horrific.

"Fucking around in wild abandon" was not what I suggested. You said that, not me.

Youth is for making mistakes, son. Plenty of us do things when we're young that would horrify us in our older age. Being young is not meant to give you a free pass for doing terrible things but growing older and maturing is supposed to be the end result.

If we were all forever judged for the shit we did when we were kids I don't think any of us would be deserving of love or forgiveness.

I think I see your problem; you kind of have a shitty, entitled attitude and now that you have garnered a bit of success in your life some women are being attracted to your first impression of stability but on the inside you're still the shitty, impatient red-pilled loser you were when you were young.

Good women have never been attracted to you because you're not a good guy. Having money might bring a few out of the woodwork but overall, you just suck. Found your problem for you.

You're welcome.

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>>18177772

>You've just taken the /r9k/ concept of "women want to settle down with a nice stable guy" and dressed it up to sound good. Fucking kek

That isn't accurate. The /r9k/ concept is that any woman who settles down with a nice guy they wouldn't of been attracted to before is because they've been "riding the cock carousel and now that their looks are gone they want to settle with a beta and cuck him and steal his money"

They have the age nor wisdom to be able to differentiate gaps in maturity because they never matured themselves; every last one of their ideologies is some knee-jerk temper tantrum in response to the fact that women are attracted to confident guys who know how to socialize, not a bunch of pasty know-it-alls who try PUA techniques on them and treat them like dogs who need to be trained and influenced.

Women seek stability and genuine qualities in people later on in their life the same reason I'm not taking out a loan to buy a motorcycle that I don't know how to ride; because I'm not a fucking kid any more and I make better decisions.

Also, these /r9k/ guys are just shitty partners. Women avoid them not because they're too busy getting pumped and dumped by "Chad" but because they fucking suck; because no reasonably intelligent woman wants to be with some basement dwelling /pol/ack who rates her on a scale of 1-10 and is so entitled he thinks he deserves women simply because he trolls /fa/, goes to the gym and has a STEM degree. No reasonably intelligent woman wants to be underhandedly insulted every day by some piece of shit 20 year old who not so secretly believes that women are only as valuable as their chastity and/or willingness to bend to their every irrational ideology.

>>18177827
this is so bluepilled it becomes a redpill desu

>>18177827
You're talking about the reasons behind it, but that hasn't actually invalidated the concept.
>Yes they fuck more "alpha" types when they're younger but they prefer a more grounded and stable man when they're older because...

>>18177670
You think guys get taken seriously by default? Fucking laughable.

>>18177868

>You're talking about the reasons behind it, but that hasn't actually invalidated the concept.

The concept isn't the issue here, the issue is your interpretation of the concept. No one said anything about "alpha" types. Those were your words, not mine. Thats a meme and I'm not going to discuss "alpha" vs. "beta" with you because memes aren't real life and your attempts to boil life down into such simple metrics are nonsensical, at best.

Yes, there are tons of girls who go for super dominant authoritarian types when they are younger but there are also a ton of girls who go for the sensitive, introverted type, it really just all depends on how well you're able to socialize and your ability to identify with girls whose personalities are most compatible with yours.

High school is a perfect example; the jock dudes dated the jock girls, the drama dudes dated the drama girls, the music dudes dated the music girls and so on and so fourth. There is this giant cross-section of different guys with all different kinds of personalities yet most of them somehow were able to connect with women in their comfort level of social interaction not because they were at the whims of the "Stacy's", but because they were capable of socializing.

SOME women being attracted to unpredictable, crazy wild boys when they're young and then refining their tastes with age is not a trait exclusive to women nor is it a trait that all women share. Men experience the same kind of emotional growth and what the crux of the argument here is that instead of having the humility and wisdom to enjoy the fact that your personality type has grown more valuable in the social climate with age you get angry and bitter that all these girls didn't like you sooner; you see them and all you can see are the girls in high school that rejected you and develop this shitty, entitled attitude that insists on generalizing girls who never even knew you back then for things that happened to you 15 years ago.

>>18177882
Obviously they don't and men gets shit on as much as women, but yes, I do feel if I was a guy, some of these people would consider me friend-material, but because I'm a girl they don't want to fuck, they see no reason to seriously interact with me.

>>18177882
>>18177998

What is laughable to me is that people spend so much time arguing about "who has it the hardest."

Its a hilarious zero-sum game that you guys invest so much time into and the most absurd part is that even if you managed to somehow definitively prove that your gender has it harder than the other it still doesn't change the fact that in order to have good relationships you have to strive to be a good person.

>>18177536
>she's a well respected female mathematician

Can I get her number? ;)

>>18177813

You seem to be very eager to project whatever troubles you, and even more eager to shoehorn me into some category that could make dealing with me or rather dismissing me easy.

You're wrong, of course, but you won't see that. You'd rather think I was some kind of asshole, and that's why I'm talking like this. Whatever.

>>18178452
>When I see someone who was fairly dismissive of me before, but now suddenly that their well has dried up and I'm looking pretty good

There's nothing wrong with going 'ha-ha, missed your taxi now you gotta walk' to specific women who were rude or dismissive to you. But you're treating all women, even ones you never met in your 20's, as if they are the ones who hurt you. >>18177813 has a point about you.

>>18178476

No, I'm not. If I was treating every woman like that, that'd be pretty fucking horrific, because that'd mean I don't have any faith in finding anyone ever to spend my time with. I'm not a bitter virgin who got overlooked when I was younger. First relationship I had was at 14, first time sex at 15, had 6 relationships in total since then, though the past 3 years I've not been in any, mostly because of focusing completely on myself, employment and health-wise.

I've actually tried dating recently and there were a few women who did interest me. We seemed to click nicely, but then I'd meet one or two of their friends and suddenly stories about how they were in the past surfaced and made me realize the situation we were in. I didn't just ghost the woman at the time, I was curious what changed and why she suddenly dated me. Like I said before, I'm average looks. I'm 178cm tall and weigh 70kg, which is considered average for my height and body build. So when I find out that the woman in question was dating guys who were at the very least 10cm taller than me, far more ripped and such, you can understand why I consider her sudden interest in me as odd.

Of course not every woman out there is going to be like her. But you can't pretend like they don't exist either.

>>18177227
>implying gay men aren't 1000x worse

I feel like only naieve women have that problem. For me it's clear as day when a guy is only interested in me for sex.

>>18178476
Not that guy (obviously, since he just responded) but no -- the guy you quoted didn't make any good points about him. I don't agree with everything >>18178487 has said in his posts, not at all, but you're trying to treat him like an /r9k/ stereotype when he isn't one, and although his tone is a little bitter the things he's saying really aren't all that excessive. He is plainly not demanding an untouched virgin like some people on here. He isn't applying radically different standards of behavior to men and women, or acting like women are deficient for being reasonably sexually active when they're younger.

I know -- it's harder to argue with people when they refuse to stand exactly where your punches are aimed.

>>18178546

It'd be hypocritical of me to expect someone to be a virgin, when I myself am not. In fact, someone being a virgin at the age of 30 would be more worrying than pleasing.

>>18178487
>No i'm not

Here's the other part:

>I'm not just going to think "Oh she matured" because the truth is that she ran out of options

That's bitter AND it's self-loathing.

>>18178575

It's not when it's backed by actual facts, and not made merely on conjecture.

You just took that to mean for every woman, rather than individual cases.

>>18178583
Why do you hate yourself so much, that you see yourself as a desperate woman's last resort?

If I were a girl I'd use that to my advantage. I'd be a total slut.

Unashamed, I would use that pussy to get free shit, it'd feel good during and after.

>>18178586

I don't though. You think that I do, because it helps you shoehorn me into some designated category, which allows for easy dismissal of whatever concerns I might have, regardless if they're valid or not.

>>18178586
Dude, why are you so determined to fit him into a box that he doesn't fit? You're not convincing anybody and you're just shitting up the thread. And no, I'm not samefagging.

Sometimes people's tastes change and mature as they get older, and sometimes they just become more willing to settle. Feeling like your SO settled for you is a shitty feeling and it certainly does happen sometimes, to men AND women. He's objecting to that, when it happens, but has quite explicitly said (several times) that he doesn't think that ALL WOMEN who are willing to date him are doing that.

Which is really not such a ridiculous thing to say, you know.

>>18174799
And yet women use sex to take advantage of men because, of the two, men are more sexually driven. Women use this advantage all the time without even having to put out most times. Guys will bend over backwards for a chance of getting intimate with a hot girl (and sometimes even when she isn't even all that attractive).

Women are capable of saying "no". There aren't many instances where man can take advantage of a woman (save for outright rape). Maybe a boss threatening to fire someone if they don't have sex with them. But there are laws to prevent that.

>>18174799
do what women are for, fuck men. stop ur bitching and get back to the kitchen

>>18174830
That's cute

I like bimbo girls that I can lift easily

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>>18174799

This is how I feel about women that I'd like to talk to too, OP.

I think about talking to them, like when they're alone studying or sitting at a class or some shit, then I think about how they're finally having some alone time after being surrounded by douches and orbiters all day and that if they're alone right now (like, studying or some shit) they wouldn't like to have an imbecile start to small talk with them and shiet.

I try to be as respectful as possible, I never even try to look at them to not make them uncomfortable, but in the end I go unnoticed by the sheer lack of relevancy I end up having in their whereabouts. To them, I'm just a dude that's there, and that's not inconveniencing them in any way, so everything's all right and they can keep up with their lives.

I wish I could give less of a fuck about what they go through, so I could be a pain in the ass to some but could also mingle and socialize with the ones not rejecting me.

Am I the only one that thinks that the majority of women are shit or whores?

From what I have seen they're worse then men when it comes to cheating.

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>>18179929

Men and women are equally cheaters.

It's just that, for women's case, it seems like a much bigger deal because of how appearances are such a big deal in a woman's worth according to society.

Most of the cheaters i've known are men who felt 0% guilty about everything. The women i've met that have cheated at least felt kinda bad and tried to not talk about it, while the cheater men eventually started bragging and shit. Empyrical and anecdotal evidence, but still.

>>18174994
Why is this always brought up like. Ost guys don't secretly want bigger girls.