>lonely >relationships aren't a reasonable course

Therapy or a chair rope combo at wallmart

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>>18125370
I have tried the first for many years and a few variations of the second but thank you for your wisdom, kind sir

get a pet

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>>18125363
>lonely
You are not.

>relationships aren't a reasonable course of action for me
Why?

>horny
Obviously.

>masturbation/porn/casual sex make me depressed
As they should. It is turning your back even more on god.

>nofap makes me agitated and gives me uncomfortable intrusive thoughts
Like? As well, yes, since you try it through your own strength.

>I have tried the first for many years and a few variations
And it never worked?

Have you tried:

a) Meditation?
b) Prayer?
c) and yes, I am serious - Confession?

>>18125489
>Why?
More reasons than I can really go into on 4chan, but I'm fucked up in the head and so relationships are not healthy for me or my partner.
>and it never worked?
No, it did not.
>Have you tried meditation, prayer,and meditation?
I have tried meditation and prayer. Meditation gives me anxiety attacks at worst or nothing at best. I had to do it and yoga weekly in the mental hospital. I went to a christian middle school and I tried going to service a few times in highschool but unfortunately I can't force myself to believe. I haven't tried confession because I was never a part of a catholic church

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>>18125523
>I haven't tried confession because I was never a part of a catholic church

Lutheran churches usually offer it as well, and Orthodox as well (but those only to members).

I'd recommend trying it. The other sacraments (open communion non confessional Lutheranism). As well.

When you are in a bad place anyhow, there is not much you can loose.

A look over to the catholics for a rosary session might not hurt either. Reading a bit of the more poetic parts of scripture neither.


I am curious why meditation gave you anxiety attacks. That sounds strange. What tpe of meditation did you do?

Other options: Did you ever volunteer?
You should try that as well.

>>18125530
It's true, there's not much I can lose. I'm not too averse to trying, but I don't see how it can help if I don't really have any sincere faith? I'm fairly familiar with the scripture and tenets of Christianity and it has never really clicked with me at all.
>meditation and anxiety attacks
The problem is that I'm in my head and instead of subduing the thoughts they amplify. I'm not very good at meditation

I have volunteered. I spent a summer volunteering at the local hospital. The nurses all liked me and stuff but I kinda hated doing it.

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>>18125545
>but I don't see how it can help if I don't really have any sincere faith?
Cause no matter what people will tell you, faith/ orthodoxy comes from orthopraxis, not the other way round.

Noone would say "Why should I train in the gym - I have not many sincere muscles". Well, no shit. That's why.

>I'm not very good at meditation
The same goes there.

As a simply advice though: Don't overcomplicate things. Just pick two short mantras of things you wanna experience, sit upright, close your eyes and repeat the one while breathing in, the other while breathing out for half an hour or less.

"Lord Jesus Christ" "Have Mercy upon me".
"All is peaceful" "I know no fears".
"Gladness comes to me" "Joy is in me".

It is basically reverse CBT. :)

>I kinda hated doing it.
Why?

>>18125563
What do you think the great deed at the end of time will be? Apocatastasis?
>Icon related

>>18125563
Hmm, I've heard that, but it really seems like a stretch that playing the part would really make you pious. I don't want to pretend and live a lie, yeah?
>gym comparison
In my eyes, it seems a more fitting analogy would be "I don't believe that spending time in the gym would change my mindset enough to make me a real gymrat"
>mantras
Yes, they can be helpful, and I am thankful that I learned them in meditation. If I have anxiety attacks when I'm doing something, I try my best to repeat mantras to keep my mind occupied ("Don't think, just walk, just breathe.") doesn't really help when I'm not doing anything or doing classwork.

I disliked volunteering because I'm not really much of a kind soul. I don't particularly like people, and I felt like I was just doing labor for people that I didn't care about so that some nurse can get paid to kick back and relax

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