Hello /adv/! So I've been dating this girl for about 4

>>18120918
devastate me*

>>18120918
>i like being with her
Here you said it yourself. You don't cut contant with people you like hanging with.

Also you both come with dark past. And your
>not cucked
>benefit
tells me that your view on relationships is somewhat strange. It is not bussiness trade.

>I ain't a guy who begs for anything.
Well, for starters why do you even want gf? To have somebody for sex and kissing? That is a bit short sighted. With this reasoning you will be the same as her ex.

>kissing
Have you considered that some people don't like kissing much? Or that she simply still doesn't trust you at all?

Now she is basically testing you if you stay with her without sex. You can start practicing comunication. Tell her how you feel about it.

>devestate if she would simply go to sleep at the hotel
Yea, tell her this. If you are so afraid she won't sex you up, maybe it is you who is at fault.

You sound immature to me. Make her feel special and tell her you need some form of sexual pleasure or you will feel used. Sometimes the best solution is the easiest one.

Okay several things stand out to me here.

>do not plan an expensive trip to a foreign place when you're not 100% happy with how things are progressing
>her reactions to the kissing and saying she was used for sex make it sound like she's trying to tell you to take it slow, but either way you should ideally discuss this and not silently wait for stuff to change or for more clues to arise, be pro-active
>if you don't get anything out of being around her you don't get from a male friend just because you didn't stick your dick in, you don't actually have feelings for her

I would break up, yeah.

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>>18120918
>we both had at least 3-4 partners before
You both are unstable fucktards. You reap what you sow. Problem solved.

>>18121241
>I don't crave sex at any rate, just showing some affection.
This doesn't negate what I said in any way. If this girl is dating you, holding your hand, you're kissing her and you feel like she's just another male friend, you don't like her enough period.

>>18121245
Sorry I deleted the post because of some mistakes.


>>18121147
Thank you, a very constructive comment.

Only remark I have is that I didn't meant sex at the hotel, but you know, maybe a short make out session.

And I always looked at relationships as bussiness deals, am I wrong?


>>18121167
The trip is about 150€ per person, we're close to Italy.
I don't crave sex at any rate, just showing some affection.

>>18121170
Well Anon, I have a certificat that I'm unstable, been to the looney house twice.
And let me guess, you're a virgin?

>>18121245
I didn't meant it it that way, just that we don't do much besides dating and talking.
But I could be talking in a similar way with my male friends.
Now if we did kiss and hold hands, maybe I would feel different.

>>18121258
>if we did kiss
You do, from what you said in the OP. And yeah even talking to someone you're falling for is wildly different from just talking to a male friend.

Also 150 euros would to me still be a big investment for someone I just started dating. Not sure how much money you both have.

And yeah looking at relationships like business deals is a pointless and shallow comparison. For one thing it assumes that we can accurately see everything a person means to us/does for us while we're right in the middle of everything. "You don't know what you've got till it's gone" is not a thing for nothing.
Secondly if you like each other so much that not being together is non-negotiable you're already winning by being around each other, regardless of other "benefits".

>>18121170
t. wizard

>>18121270
Thank you, great input!

I see those 150€ as a test, I will get to see how she acts in a bit longer exposure to me and how are her personal habits.
Besides we will both pay and split the bills.

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>>18121252
>And let me guess, you're a virgin?
Unfortunately not.