I have issues with sex. I see sex as degrading for women, I feel

>>18050799

>I don't know WHY I think like this. No clue.
- religious upbringing
- living in a society that grew out of christianity
- years of convincing yourself women are whores for sleeping with Chad, to deal with your cognitive dissonance regarding lack of dating success

>>18050803
no religious upbringing
I am chad lol

My father cheated on my mother and she explained it to me at a young age and she demonized sex in her explanation, made it seem like it's the worst thing you can do.

My only guess is it stems from that, but idk tbqh
I don't think so...

>>18050813
>I am chad lol

you're afraid of sex and you're on 4chan, think again

>>18050799
First of all, women have evolutionary been programmed to be submissive to men in all forms of life. Most women who are really feminine in their core acknowledge this and actually hate feminism (attractive ones/goodlooking ones hate feminism, fat tumblrwhales try to be politically active for feminism lol)


Women always are less in value, whereas the male brings the value to her (penis --> vagina)

Women want to have just as much sex as men it's our animalistic instincts to reproduce with the highest genetic quality, but the twist is they do not want to be seen as sluts so it's the men's responsibility to say "let's have pizza at my place or let's drink some wine etc "


It's literally Ying Yang, however our new hyper-feminist society nowadays has pushed for a feminized agenda to brainwash incel beta faggots like you to white-knight/protect women from their reptillian desires to actually make you think sex is bad/control the population essentially from overproducing


At the end of the day, do whatever the fuck you want, I used to also be asexual, considered myself a third gender but then I broke away from societal bullshit and started listening to my inner core and now I recognize it's just natural to have sex/dominate women and they'll like you more for that.


Most women on here can agree they like to be tortured/bondage/choked/fucked hard but they won't say it even though this is an anonymous board lmaooo

>>18050824
Interesting, definitely a refreshing perspective, in terms of thinking this way though I've got a long way to go.

>>18050816
Reeee, I get girls easy, I just feel weird about it.

I sort of think this way too. One of my female friends talks about sex... A LOT. I respect her, she's a nice person. But i don't know why, but it bothers me that she spreads her legs to so many guys. I don't treat her any different, nor have I told her this, but it's extremely off putting.

On the other side of things, I'm a guy, and I've had sex twice with 2 different girls. I don't want to have more sex because I don't want my "Number" to go up. For some reason i feel terribly guilty for me 2 previous experiences. I refuse to allow myself to have more experiences. Ironically, since I'm a guy, it's just making me look like shit

>>18050849
Yes it is a long way to go, I'm only 19 but I've swallowed the red pill early, even though I now see how fucked up society is and how I hate this world even more after becoming much more aware.


It's definitely painful/made me more mature however the benefits in the long run outweigh the temporary pain of knowing one's reality. Trust me I used to only want to have sex/relationships with virgins when I was younger, then I realized that's just immature and then I started understanding the true nature of women that are actually meant to be slutty/highly manipulative. However, once I was struck cold/deceived by a bitch I never looked back to being Beta/BP. Deception is the only fucking felony and I swear a bitch that tries me again will damn well be her last


I'm not one to to recommend subreddits but honestly /r/TheRedpill used to be a great place to read about this and how society has turned certain men into naive blue-pill mindhives, but honestly –


I've already gone fucking deeper than that petty subreddit where millennials/30yr/olds now cry about their personal relationships/BP experiences and have found a different route to even more reality-exposing information on a political, macroscopic level hence why I dropped hints of "population control". When you understand that your life, feelings, and fate don't mean shit to corrupted politics, new world indoctrinated society, and large businesses realizing the scarcity of key resources you mentally change as a person
I just don't want to make you fully conscious of this shit we call a life, most of it you will grow to know by leaving your comfort space through your personal experiences in the real world.


Just know that in the end we're all just highly intelligent animals still evolving/not meant for such rapid advancements in the world and nothing fucking matters in the midst of us living under harsh political agendas

>>18050824
>First of all, women have evolutionary been programmed to be submissive to men in all forms of life.
I think your overall point is correct, but this isn't true. In many animals, females are larger and dominant over males.

>>18050893
You're missing the point, read the whole post instead of being pedantic


Sexual dimorphism varies amongst species and their evolutionary roles,

In my argument we are speaking of humans which have evolved for way longer periods and have been exposed to various shit then a fucking insect/spider/fish and I don't care if a certain type of female fish has a longer skull than that of a male and really don't give a fuck if a female seahorse actually has the penis and mates with males


Additionally I forgot to mention the gender depolarization that society has programmed many of us to believe through the media such as the declining view of masculinity for a push for a more feminized image of males as well as the intrusion of synthetic hormones (phytoestrogens, BPA)

>>18050909
>stop being pedantic
I told you I agree with you. I was just pointing that out because when you make arguments to people, these are the kinds of things people hop on because you literally said "all forms of life." Moreover, I'm talking about other mammals like bonobos and hyenas and shit.

>>18050813
You're not fucking chad, and just cause you think you look or are good enough that just doesn't cut it bro.

Cruel world but women meet and fuck "cool" guys on a daily basis, it's literally just you're turn. And if you don't wanna step up to the plate and play hardball then just quit and go back to being a little bitch thinking you ever were a "chad"


Post your IG or face then frame/weight and I'll tell you right now if you're a chad

>>18050799
I'd lick my own cum off those feet

Just google "Madonna/whore" complex.

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>>18050799

>>18050813
>I am chad lol
heh

you are used up the more you have sex men don't want second hand pussy we want pure loyal Women not whores, deal with it.

the idea that whores are less valuable doesn't come from christianity it comes from men being territorial and protective of their women and offspring without it men would just fuck women and leave. it's also down to the idea of exclusivity and rarity having something that no one else can get is appealing while having some thing everyone can is not rare things are more valuable.

I sort of understand, OP. However I feel this way about everyone, not just women. Women have a different subset of desires with regards to sex, which may seem strange and off-putting, but a lot of these attitudes are much more prevalent in media/pornography than in reality. In my experience, I've found promiscuous women to be more on the scale of "sex brings me closer to the person, and I just really like being close to people" thing, so it's not just a desire to be thrown around and fucked up the ass and stuff like that. On the other hand, the concept of the Chad who goes around slaying pussy all the time with no recourse is also a bit of a fabrication in my experience, all of the promiscuous men I know are pretty sad people who are compensating for their own shortcomings and they all know it

However, this doesn't change the fact that I find promiscuity a little off putting, but not because of the sexual piece of the puzzle. To me, it signifies someone who lacks a sense of empathy for, and loyalty to, their sexual partners. Though I think no less of people who do this, I personally would never engage in such shallow behavior. My wife and I have only ever had sex with each other, and I'm very happy with that. Not because I would see her as a whore, but because it shows a sense of self control that is fading currently in men and women. But my attitudes do NOT just focus on women here. I find "wham bam thank you ma'am" men to be scared and wildly narcissistic. I think these are, in fact, very WEAK traits in a man. The whole "humans are animals, men do X, wen do Y," thing is a little played out, and I think we are a little further past it than most people believe we are.

Intellectual substance has become (for years now) a perfectly reasonable sexual attractor, and promiscuity shows a weakness in the mind.

tl, dr: I see where you're coming from, but from a much different perspective. Try to only apply your values to yourself and not others.

>>18050824
Your arguments make no sense. A vagina is biologically a hell of a lot more valuable than a dick, both because men want pussy more than the other way around (both hormonally and because dick is easier to come by, which also has biological roots because women take a much bigger risk when engaging in sex) and because one man can populate a village and a single woman can have a handful of kids.

Evolutionary all that matters is the offspring. Women are necessary in much bigger numbers to ensure offspring, and are directly concerned with keeping said offspring safe. Men are literally foot soldiers who are designed to take inane risks and essentially sacrifice themselves by and large in order to protect the women who in turn protect the offspring.

Sure, having the job to essentially shit out kids and make sure they survive isn't as glamorous to people as fighting and fucking around as much as possible is. But biologically a woman is worth much more than a man and it's cultural contempt for women on the premise of them being physically weaker and living a more domestic life that makes them count as less in some people's eyes.

>>18050824
Uhhhhhhh no. Female submission is a *social construction* not an evolutionary imperative. You have been conditioned to think that, just as OP has been conditioned to think women having sex=sluts. It's easy to believe things that make you feel superior to others, but that doesn't make those things correct, or good. Read, listen, learn, and try to break out of that conditioning.

>>18050799
It's because you're a dumb slut and you realize it.

>>18051831
Every single woman on Earth wants a tall strong man to grab their neck, stare them straight in the eyes and tell her to do whatever he wants.

it's genetically hardwired. You can fight it all you want, but your pussy knows what it likes, and it doesn't care what you think.

>>18051847
Reading a bit of the 50 shades of shit trilogy anon? Whatever you think bro, reality is quite different but you'll never know cause your head is stuck up your anus-hole

My situation is similar, but not quite.. recently I've become more concious of my male brain.

If I find myself truly attracted to someone (falling in love for specific reasons), a woman, she is usually so special to me, that her sexual history becomes insignificant. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't care even if she had AIDS (though I'd feel sorry for her of course). If I'm madly in love, all those walls come down.

But falling in love is so incredibly rare, so very rare. And even if I do feel absolutely smitten by this girl, there is no guarantee she feels the same. So in a way, I don't want sex with her, because if she were only to thinks of me as a sexual object, THEN, I would be turned off, it's very conditional.

I prefer the idea of me being deeply in love with her, even if she can't reciprocate it. Because in my mind, even if she doesn't perceive herself as someone worthy of love, I have already forgiven her. Her past isn't my life so to speak, it's her future that I wish was mine.

But since it can't be, I prefer a hug. I proved this with my life recently, I was madly attracted to a girl a few days ago, but she's from out of town, so I had to suck it up and force myself to move on, but hardly.. still thinking about her. And she most likely long forgot me.

cont.

>>18051922
But days before I realized this attraction to her was actually a thing, and I felt really good near her, really warm and almost like in a trance near her, I was just jacking off to the thought of other girls I saw as purely a sexual attraction or "cute". But I never act out on my sexual desires, and when I have, I've only been with one girl in actual PIV sex, and I loved her. Two other girls gave me head, one was a gf, it was awkward, the second was 2 years after the girl I loved and I had a mental breakdown because I simply wasn't ready to move on from the memory of my ex, and I simply wasn't in love with her.

So, what I've discovered simply is, love has so much more value to me, even if she is "used up" so to speak. If said girl understood my attraction to her, the one I fell hard for recently, now THAT would be amazing.

I got drunk and posted here..wtf. why

If it helps OP, I think men who have lots of sex are worth less, are lesser people for having a lot of sex and you are used up and damaged. So you're hanging out with the right chicks.

>>18050799
>mfw Im similiar but Im a dude
>I want to fuck girls but I dont like girls who fuck too much

>>18051949
>I think men who have lots of sex are worth less
Said no one ever in the history of mankind.

>>18050876
Wow do I know you? That girl sounds like me and you sound like my friend.

Tbh sex for some people is more focussed on the physical part and others enjoy the emotions of it. I can see the benefits of keeping it more exclusive (more special that way), but having a lot of sex can also be incredibly fun. As you get to pleasure your body and conquer someone new.

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>we must protect the womb modern inventions don't exist and sentience isn't real ooga dooga
>men hunt women gather eek eek ook ook

Apparently shitposting on the internet is also in our DNA.

God I fucking hate you guys.

>>18051831
>Conditioned to think women having sex=sluts
I mean, multiple studies have shown that the more partners a woman has before a marriage, the more likely the marriage is to fail, so there's probably some truth to that. (Funny thing, that correlation exclusively exists for females; there's no correlation between pre-marriage partner count and marriage success/failure for men)
>>18051869
>50 shades of shit trilogy
Yet, those books and movies made a FORTUNE. Similarly, the Twilight series made a fortune. Both feature Plain Jane submissive protags with dangerous male lovers. They may be trash books, but there's no denying that they are popular with women.

>>18052928
You're right, bro. We should just stop eating and breathing bro, they're just relics of a more primitive society. In fact, I'm going to plug my brain into a McRobot and transcend the limitations of the flesh altogether

>>18051831
Soo... why there's so many studies where you can associate happynes level and depression level with the number of partners a woman had?