Why does life have to suck this bad? My life is probably better

>>18042359

you're talking yourself into your problems.

you could just say you're sad but its
>a dark and terrible sadness
>an overwhelming misery so great i can hardly bear living (despite continuing to do so without incident)
>its 'INCREDIBLE DEPRESSION'

you want to be this tragic being who's so sad that it doesn't matter if his life is great, hes just too beautifully depressed. its just not fair :(

Become a humanitarian. You say you don't like the ugliness of humanity but what have you done to better humanity as a whole?

>>18042369

nah thats hard, im too sad for that,.

>>18042359

Do you have a greater vision/purpose for your life that you are working towards every day?

Do you indulge in a lot of instant gratification like 4chan, porn, vidya?

These are the big ones

>>18042367
I don't want to be sad. That's why I'm asking for help. And I'm not going to kill myself because I know it would destroy my family.
>>18042369
This is good advice. I think I have some ideas for how to incorporate this into my life without having to reinvent the wheel. Thanks.

>>18042385

>i dont want to be sad. that's why im asking for help.

if only it were that simple. people like you seek validation for your depression. you need to bask in how no one can truly understand you for being so uniquely sad.

pretending to ask for help is the best way to do that. even if you don't realize you're doing this. it happens. a lot.

most people dont actually come here looking for advice, they come here to reject it.

>>18042382
Yes, I do, although lately my fire has died down a bit. I keep fighting forward even when it feels like I'm losing ground. Lately things have just really crushed me into the ground. I have been indulging in instant gratification to cope with these changes, and that is probably a big reason why I'm not making a lot of progress. I appreciate this insight.

>>18042389
>most people dont actually come here to give advice, they come here to be assholes

Quality post bub.

>>18042359
Live uncomfortably for a while. Let go of the person you want others to think you are. go ghost on the world and family for a while, while you work on yourself learning new things talking to new people enjoying yourself without anyone knowing where you are or what your doing. Travel. All this to force new perspective. Im currently doing this, slowing apprecaiting life in a whole new way. It feels like the mental freedom i lost as a kid, the confidence and carefree, excitement, curiosity, chillness and unatachment is coming back.

>>18042389

>most people dont actually come here looking for advice, they come here to reject it.

or perhaps they're rejecting advice that is off the mark so they can get to the core of their problem?
>mfw people think they're being selfless and giving advice but they get offended when they don't receive praise for it

>>18042389
I see what you are saying, but I assure you that my depression is not vanity. In fact, just the opposite - I realize how pathetic it is and want nothing more than to overcome it. The cycle of self-loathing is a machine of perpetual motion.

>>18042396
Also be your bestfriend, not worst enemy. Even when you fuck up. The world and people will make sure to make you feel bad already theres no need for you to amplify it no matter what you do.

Most likely because you aren't faced with anything meaningful to apply yourself to.

If your daily struggle consisted of a life and death battle to stay fed, warm and safe then you wouldn't have time for all this intellectual whining about purpose and goals.

But now you've got this big ass brain overthinking things and when presented with all these options and choices and possibility your true nature starts to be revealed.

You'd rather seek validation for a world view built on depression where you are rewarded and congratulated for being weak and unhappy because somehow we can all relate to your existential ennui so should feel sorry for you because you are such a great example of suffering.

You claim to suffer for nobodies benefit except your own need for validation. Sorry you aren't interesting to me. Hopefully you are interesting or useful to somebody else because life truly is hollow and pointless and without meaning except that which you define.

Good luck anon. Though luck is absurd.

>>18042403
My life actually is a costant struggle for survival. I tell myself these hard times build character, but mostly they wear me out. Thanks for your honesty. I find myself agreeing with almost everything you said.

>>18042416
Ok anon. Look I'll be soft for a bit. First off this is only my opinion, but I bet you know what the medication train is like. I found it to be a false authority which claims to help while preventing you from taking direct authority over your life. The chemical changes which bring the benefits can be brought about by lifestyle changes like exercise and diet, but most people just want to stay in sad families as sad victims in sad jobs which benefit nobody except industry.

Philosophy, specifically stoicism has helped me a great deal and if you ever try therapy or counselling (I have) you are basically going to get an extremely watered down version of it known as CBT or (slightly better) REBT. My gf is an existential psychotherapist and I'm sat in a room filled with books on these topics and I go to seminars and talks on these things with her.

So it comes down to the usual shit. Your situational might not something entirely within your control, but your perception of it is. You might be an ant in the scheme of things, but wouldn't you rather feel like the best ant you could be as part of a beautiful interconnected world functioning as it should? You've got to take pleasure in the things you have, not sadness in the things you don't have. Ah fuck it, you know all this, but my point is at the bottom of the deep despair and sympathy circle jerk that is modern mental health you'll often find nobody wants to get better because they don't want to give up that little thing that they now have. Feeling like the most victimised or most injured or wounded. I don't crave the validation of simple minded people.

My gf hates it when I talk like this because she actually deals with complex cases where empathy and understanding alongside complex ethics is at the core of everything you do, but I know what works for me.

I'm not sure what to say about a constant struggle for survival. I mean literally? Or is this hyperbole? You've just flipped on what you've said initially.

>>18042455
I never "flipped" anything. Originally I was merely acknowledging the fact that my life is (probably) far easier than the vast majority of humans who have ever lived (just like yours). This doesn't mean I don't have to work to survive. I suppose "battle for survival" could be exaggerating, but part of my sadness comes from the fact that I'm constantly forced to justify my existence in order to put food on the table. I work really hard, and I know my level of excellence is far above the ordinary. Despite this, outside forces beyond my control seem hungry for blood. If I was any less of a man, I would have starved long ago.