I feel like trash because no guy liked me in a romantic way when

>>17965078
How old are you?

>>17965084
27

>>17965094
thats pretty fucked, but 27 is much too young to feel like "leftovers"

>>17965121
What am i then

>>17965078

27 is far too young to be called leftovers, guys have far more time than girls do when it comes to finding a mate to settle down with (if they want kids) so anyone under 30 choosing to be with you is not even close to having settled.

>>17965078
You're ugly or a mental case

>>17965131
>27 is far too young to be called leftovers

She's getting there. If she hasn't had a bf yet she's falling behind. The window is closing to get it together and find a good guy

>>17965126
a young woman sounding pretty confused about how to relate to others.

>>17965149
How do i relate to others?

>>17965140

I dunno, depending on her looks she is the ideal mate for a lot of men out there seeking the "pure, untainted" chicks. In terms of relationship experience its not optimal but 27 is still pretty young.

You make this thread a lot don't you

>>17965156
She's definitely leftovers to me as a 28 year old, but I have 18 through 20 year olds interested and look young for my age. Girls hit the wall around 25 to me; they lose that glow in their skin, cheeks lose their fat, and their wrinkles start to show. You can be okay if you take care of yourself though.

OP, are you fat? Do you talk to any guys? I've never seen a dude I wasn't hanging around with cold approach a chick outside of social gathering places and events. You need to go out and look for them, and you need to make yourself attractive while you do it. Idk why but I imagine you in a burka, wondering why men won't approach and ask you out.

>>17965152
that's something i struggle with myself, try to find a shared interest or some kind of kinship with someone, you've just got to try to put yourself out there.

>>17965170

Each to their own, 18-20 year olds to me are only good for one night stands or short term flings, not to mention by the time they're 25 they are very different people, you're taking a big risk seriously considering someone that young as long term material.

>>17965171
Could you be more specific when you say put yourself out there? Where exactly could i find a guy who would wabt a relationship with me?

How many sex partners have you had?

>>17965197
1, it was a one night stand 5 years ago with someone i found online

>>17965190

What do you look like?

That's a huge aspect of finding a guy that would be into you. Have you done all that you can to attract the opposite sex? (stay in shape, flattering clothing/hair/make up).

If you are even moderately attractive it should be easy as piss to find a decent guy, most single people just want to feel love and closeness, so any guy you find attractive and/or interesting just go up and talk to them, you can be shy and awkward and that will only make you seem cuter, thats the difference between men and women, men are expected to be confident and in charge.

>>17965203
I stay in shape but im not the prettiest of girls, i dont have a curvy figure or cute face even with makeuo and clothes

I have no problem talking to guys and Ive made male friends throughout my life, they never see me as anything more than a friend though

>>17965190
you don't find people that want a relationship with you, you find people you have something in common with, or maybe if you meet someone with whom you share an attraction, it just happens but you have to put yourself in situations where you meet people.

>>17965212

Are you sure about them not seeing you as more than a friend? Have you asked? Just look at the threads around /adv plenty of guys with crushes on girls who don't know how to make that fact known. You just have to be more direct. I find it hard to believe that you've made plenty of male friends and not a single one of them saw you as more than a friend, you either didn't ask and missed an opportunity or you're extremely unattractive in which case you could be right, but you didn't describe yourself that way.

>>17965217
Ok what situations exactly, and how do you not let it turn into just a friendship?

>>17965222
I guess im just extremely unnatractive.

>>17965212
You're aiming out of your league.

>>17965227
it doesn't turn into a friendship sometimes it starts as one, do you ever feel chemistry in any of these friendships of yours?

>>17965227
There is no how do I make him see me as attractive for women. Act sexy with a male friend. If they don't bite, they're probably not attracted.

>>17965229

That or you're shooting too high, the only guys that friend zone girls have other options available. You might have to set more realistic expectations for your attractiveness level. If you're desperate you could pop into a comic book store and find dozens of socially awkward guys that would be more than happy to date you.

>>17965232
Chemistry?

Ive had crushes on guys but they never felt the same way (i confessed to some of them)

>>17965236
Lol i dont make friends with guys because of their looks, my male friends have ranged in attractiveness and also people have laughed at how ugly some of my crushes have been and how i could have possibly liked them

>>17965247

I didn't say you did, I'm just saying it's likely the guys that you expressed interest in and got friends zoned by were out of your league. Without knowing what you look like it's hard to tell you what you can improve or change but my advice is to just keep trying, it's a numbers game, eventually you will find someone who reciprocates your feelings. In the mean time do your best to be as attractive as you possible can be.

>>17965262
Yeah ive been trying for too long now, i think its time to give up hope

>>17965078

Post a photo of yourself.

>>17965281
Hahaha. Good one.

I say, let the bitch burn.

>>17965078

there are guys interested in you, they just don't know how to approach you.

>>17965281
This

>>17965078

get out and socialize more and rest assured guys will pay attention to you

>>17965271
Well your attitude is a serious turn off. Life is shitty enough, no one wants to invite more shitty thoughts into their mind.

That put aside, you aren't trash and you aren't leftover goods. You are a human being with dreams and desires. It's not that hard to find another human who feels the same way. You just need to connect with people better.

Like the millions of posters before me said, be more fucking forward. I had a girl begging me for sex in a unique way. I didn't even realize that she was interested in me until I thought about it more closely. I almost missed out on her because of my own stupidity. Had she not been able to be forward with me, I'd be banging my hand again.

Live life like it's your last day. You'll notice a difference in 3 hours.

>>17965628
Yeah I don't think there's anyone interested in me like that.

>>17965600
I already socialise a lot!

>>17965484
How come they know how to approach every single other girl except me. What's so scary about me versus them.

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>>17965078
gonna need a picture, even if you blur it a bit.

>>17965078
how fat are you?

>>17966170
I'm not fat

I'm 27 too, and I know that it's a bit more difficult because everyone is settling down and everything. But don't fear, there are many of us who would gladly go out with someone of our age and for serious stuff.

Have you tried approaching the guys instead?

PICTURE

Perhaps the problem is of different sort than looks. Perhaps, OP, your attitude is too guy-like. I just get a few hints from the way you say things, this turn of phrase or that, but it seems like you don't often flirt. Like, trying to say everything very logically and precisely; this is the way some guys speak. It is not very attractive to most of us guys, though some consider it straight shooting and (claim to) like it.

>>17966439
>though some consider it straight shooting and (claim to) like it.
But I do like that, a girl who communicates clearly is, for me, a display of her intelligence. Which I really like.

>>17966353
>Have you tried approaching the guys instead?
Are you really asking a woman to step out of her comfort zone?

>>17965247
>people have laughed at how ugly some of my crushes have been and how i could have possibly liked them
That means nothing. I've seen women do that same shit when the woman with a crush was beyond below average.

Either way it's not surprising, no one is going to want to date a woman with the kind of mentality you're expressing. It may sound like a catch 22, but even if you were in their league no one is going to want to date someone who's just going to whine about their lack of dating success in Highschool.

>>17966459
It wouldn't be the first time. Besides, doing something different might fix her issue.

OP here

I feel suicidal

What should i do (apart from killing myself)

>>17966493
Responding to my suggestion maybe >>17966353

>>17966493
Self improvement is always a solid option. Go to the gym, go outside, etc. You say you're unattractive, but how much of that is just due to a poor body?

I'm more or less in your position. Women enjoy my company, but only as a friend. Pretty much invisible otherwise. I could just be sour about the whole situation, but I'm focused more on building a life I'm happy with. Even if it never results in finding a relationship, it's still something better than what I have right now.

>>17966353
Of course I've approached the guys instead

I don't have standards apart from not being disease ridden or deformed or an asshole

There's no hope left now

I feel like there's no point going on

>>17966510
My body is as good as it will look without surgery

I give up I give up I give up

I can't take it anymore.

>>17966520
Good job on missing the forest for the trees.

>>17966527
Enlighten me

>>17966515
Okay. How do you flirt? When do you do it?

Better yet I will put you in a fictional situation and you tell me how you react.

>We're going out and getting to meet each other
>We're having a coffee and just talking about things
>"I really like how they prepare this coffee, it's very sweet."

Your reaction?

>>17966520
Calm down girl, I'm trying to help you here.

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>>17965199
>1, it was a one night stand 5 years ago with someone i found online
GET OUT

>>17966538
>Your reaction?

"you're right"

I flirt when I'm talking to the guy, I smile and play with my hair usually, this is all involuntary I turn into mush when I'm attracted to a guy. I may sometimes make goofy bad jokes that sound insincere but obviously aren't because I'm touching their arm or something.

Why are you making me relive these sad memories of failed interactions, I'm starting to cry now.

>>17966538
I don really make coffee but I had impress you

>>17966553
>"you're right"
If you want the guy to feel things for you, something along the lines of
>"You're very sweet too"
would be considered flirting. That will catch them off-guard.

>I flirt when I'm talking to the guy, I smile and play with my hair usually, this is all involuntary I turn into mush when I'm attracted to a guy. I may sometimes make goofy bad jokes that sound insincere but obviously aren't because I'm touching their arm or something.
Us guys are very bad at catching those signs, really. Try being a little bit more straightforward. Just a little bit. Using words and such will work.

>Why are you making me relive these sad memories of failed interactions
Because that's the only way we can find where you're going wrong.

>I'm starting to cry now.
Uh. This will sound weird but don't you want to talk in private instead?

>>17966570
Well I've confessed my feelings to guys in the past with words, they never liked me back

>Uh. This will sound weird but don't you want to talk in private instead?

Ok, how?

>>17966573
Skype: [email protected]

>>17966570
>Vulnerable low confidence woman makes a thread asking for help
>You're using it as a way to pick her up

You're a pretty despicable person.

>>17966570
It is weird you simp. Why are you wasting so much time to help a stranger? Would you offer the same if "she" was male? Don't answer that it's a rhetorical question.

>>17966579
>>17966580
I'm sorry I really got concerned? I knew I would get this sort of response anyways.

But w/e no one cares.

>>17966591
Of course because it's abnormal and transparent what you're doing. I'd be more surprised if no one called you out on it.

>>17966604
Your attitude of treating OP as a poor, vulnerable victim is way more insulting.

>>17966604
I'm well aware that it's abnormal and for that very reason people claim that I have issues, especially if I openly show that I am concerned.

>>17966616
I'm not? Did you not read my post and just decided to focus on the part where I asked to talk in private? Holy shit

>>17966631
I'm talking about the white knight thinking he's defending OP from you.

>>17966636
Oh, that too. Sorry, my mistake. And thank you, by the way.

>>17965232
Not op but I have an interesting problem. I just don't get how to turn my frienship into a relationship. I'm not exactlly sure..i mean i'm not sure that my friend is attracted to me. I think that maybe we're too friendzoned.

>>17966644
>my frienship
>into a relationship
As far as I'm aware, it either happens or it doesn't, but it cannot be forced. Especially because there's this whole friendship stuff. But if you're interested on someone, starting at a friendship is a bad idea.

>>17965078
Op you have social phobia, maybe depression and you're probably fat.

You need to deal with these issues or you will end up as an old cat lady with no children.

>>17966655
But I wasn't interested in him until we became friends. I really like him as a person. We are close. I'm just SO jealous of him talking and flirting with other girls. I am scared that he will find a girlfriend and that he will no longer need me. How can i tell if he's attracted to me? Or how can i not be jealous. Maybe i keep looking for signs that he likes me so i find them in stuff that friend do? Like texting everyday, wishing goodnight, touching my hair, suddenly turning around and standing too close for a bit just smiling

>>17966698
Don't keep looking for signs, be proactive instead. Flirt with him, and be obvious about it. Put him in the spotlight and make him wonder about what you're meaning. That way he might either return the flirting or reject you.

>>17966710
Well i am flirting. He sometimes flirts back sometimes he just smiles at me and kind of frowns and shakes his head..i'm confused. On the other hand he flirts with other girls sometimes he tells me how stupid they were lol. We talk about his ex a lot..we're friend really. I don't wish to do anything to screw that up

>>17966735
>he just smiles at me and kind of frowns and shakes his head
I'm sorry to say but it seems that your friend isn't into you. It seems that he doesn't seem you as a potential couple.

>>17966777
Well i guess that's fine too. I justcwish i weren't so jealous when he is talking with some other girls. Do you have any tips on that

>>17966794
Sadly... You will have to just get over him. You know. Look at other guys and see if someone else is available. Maybe tell him that you need a time off from him, if anything that will help you deal with the jealousy. Take action to not fall further for the guy.

>>17966815
I guess i'll try
Thanks for the adv btw

>>17965078
Nah, there are MANY people I know (even myself) who are dedicated to their job/career and they have, or never had the time nor their will to be in a relationship. However, after they hit their 30s, many people either now have the time to date and/or they've changed their mind, so you have nothing to lose.

>>17966833
Be safe!

>>17965078
top kek you only had one fucking job not to be fat.