If marijuana is not addictive, why are people always consuming

It doesn't cause chemical dependencies but a lot of people seem to be psychologically addicted.

People who say "weed is not addictive" don't understand how addiction works. What they mean to say is that it doesn't have any substances that make you physically addicted to it, like cigarettes and some harder drugs do. This however doesn't mean much, because the worst part of addiction is the habit that enables that addiction, not the physical addiction. People relapse after months and even years because of their "mental" addiction, not the physical one.

Thing is, everything can be addictive. Any activity or substance you enjoy on a regular basis will become a habit and the habit will turn into addiction if there are any supernormal stimuli associated with it (it can happens with normal stimuli as well, but not as quick and it's not as strong). That's why soda, fast food, porn, videogames and so on can all cause really strong addiction. Marijuana addiction works in the same way.

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>>17928969
I begin to understand. But people do not advertise their love of soda in every conversation, nor do they think "Hey, who here eats fast food?" is an appropriate conversation starter (I've been asked if i smoked weed by a total stranger at a coffee shop), nor do they watch porn while getting their hair cut. Why are the lines so blurry for weed?

>>17928969

>the worst part of addiction is the habit
Yeah dude I'm sure quitting heroine is so hard because of habit of shoving needles into your arm. You're talking out of your ass tripfriend.

>>17928974
Most people who smoke pot regularly are shallow. You don't/can't really do much when you're high so their hobbies end up being nothing but smoking pot. It's all they have it's all they know what to talk about.

>>17928974
Most people I know who smoke weed regularly don't talk about it constantly, at least not when they're around non-smokers, but I know there are some who act like you described. There isn't something about weed itself that makes some people act like it's the best thing ever, it's the "culture" behind it. People (well, teens, mostly) are told that weed is cool and fun and all that. Look at all the weed memes out there. Basically a lot of people are told that they're cool, or hip or fun or they know how to live life or whatever if they smoke weed and they buy it. So they act like it. It's almost like a cult. They did the same thing with cigarettes and it worked great for a while, but now it kinda died down. Basically it's just smart marketing.

Almost no one is told that fast food and soda are great and cool etc., you're told that it tastes good. And society keeps reminding you that it's bad because it makes you fat and ugly. Porn is... well a more private matter, society doesn't exactly encourage you to talk about it with everyone at any time.

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>le loud stoner meme
Your view of reality is 100% based on the internet and TV.

You don't know what smokers in real life do.

You also don't understand the difference between chemical addiction, psychological dependence, self-medication, and recreation.

You also don't seem to get how decriminalized cannabis possession is. In almost the entire US (barring college campuses, college PD are bored as shit) cops have better shit to do than pull you into the station and spend time filling out paperwork for a trivial infraction. You'd have to be carrying upwards of a half-ounce in most places to even get a weak misdemeanor and still more to be hit with intent to sell (which is the REAL crime).

in a nutshell your picture of weed from top to bottom is fucking wrong.

Also
>I've had to endure getting a haircut while a woman smoked in the same building
Stop being such a bitch

>>17928977
>habit of shoving needles into your arm
Nice strawman. The habit behind it is infinitely more complex than that. Any habit has a similar patter in 3 steps: trigger, routine and reward.
Shoving needles in your arm is the routine, but the main driving force behind a habit (especially an addiction and even more so a drug addiction) is the reward. In this case the reward is the feeling it gives you. That's what any druggie craves most. Not the substance itself, but the feeling. And that's because of the habit. If you found a way to give him the same feeling without heroin he would actually have a pretty easy time of quitting heroin, but the addiction would still be there. The addiction that stems from habit, the crave. So yeah, heroin is hard to quit because of habit, not because of substance. You're the one talking out of your ass, because you have no idea what habits actually are and how they work.

>>17929019
Heroin isn't a psychological addiction you twat

>>17929014
>same building
She was on the chair next to me, and I have asthma.

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It's not physically addictive. That does not mean it is not habit forming. People usually gloss over that so they can try to mentally widen the gap between weed and hard drugs. They try to minimize it, just like how people frequently do with vaping.

>Not to mention how fond of advertising their habit they seem to be, and how offended they seem to get when you ask them not to do it near you
It's all mental bullshit. I remember a while ago there was this case where a roommate kept smoking weed even though it kept setting off this guys allergies. He promised to stop doing it in the house, but then turned around and ripped a bong in front of him within the same day and acted like the victim when he was given his two weeks notice.

I have nothing against people who are respectful with their habits, but the majority of stoners are incredibly juvenile. Same can be said for most substances though.

>>17929014
>Stop being such a bitch
This is a good example. Smoking in a closed room is incredibly disrespectful, regardless of the substance used. It could be tobacco, weed, or a Vape Pen, you're willfully contaminating someones air. It's a dick move at a bare minimum.

>>17929028
>I have asthma
Oh, well that changes everything

Oh wait, no it doesn't. All you had to do was say "Excuse me, I have asthma, can you smoke outside?"

But you didn't, because you're afraid of people, and what you really want is to be comfortable looking down on them.

Take your shit thread that has nothing to do with advice to 420chan or /v/.

>>17929034
>All you had to do was say "Excuse me, I have asthma, can you smoke outside?"

>my exact words
>with the inhaler in hand

She just ignored me.

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>>17929026
Its like everything I said went over your head. Yes, it is. Every enjoyable activity and substance can create a psychological addiction. Cravings are a result of psychological addiction, not physical. Physical addiction is almost always connected to a psychological addiction.

http://alcoholrehab.com/addiction-articles/physical-and-psychological-addiction/

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>>17929038
>>17928951
become an hero

>>17929045
Let me assume things too: you are one of those very deffensive people who probably blow smoke on people's faces at a bus stop just because it's not a closed space, aren't you?

>>17928951
Man weed is super cool right now since it's illegal but cops don't really care about it.

Ideal for hipsters who want safe danger.

every day blunt smoker, ask me anything

>>17929054
>>>/qst/

>>17928951
I like how people will agree how anything can be addictive, whether it's food, drinking, partying, video games, or some kind of body motion like people with OCD -- BUT POT ISN'T ADDICTIVE. I'M SERIOUS, I CAN QUIT WHENEVER. YES, I WANT TO WASTE MONEY ON SOMETHING I DON'T NEED AND GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO GET IT, AND CONSUME IT REGULARLY - BUT DON'T YOU DARE SAY IT'S ADDICTIVE.

It's addictive, dumbasses. Everything can be addictive. Don't be retarded. So your safe vice has a few drawbacks - what the fuck ever. It should still be legal, but don't be retarded enough to refuse admitting it's addictive.

>>17929054
Who is such a poorfag that they have to wait at a bus stop lol?

No wonder you don't smoke, you couldn't afford it

I'm an angry, volatile man in a high stress job. I've hurt friends and family members because of my anger. Weed is an instant cool down, and it keeps me impossibly passive all day. I know this means nothing to you, Internet, but it means a lot to those close to me.

Also, a habit is not an addiction. Addiction is a very specific, physical dependency. A habit is a habit.

>22 year old masters student
>smoke pot relatively regularly, not daily but every few days
>never dropped below a 3.7 GPA in my undergrad, so far the same with my masters
> working a pretty sick paid internship that will be a full time job once I'm through

I'll keep my 'addiction', all of you seem to have this image of a teenager wearing rasta clothing screaming for attention to the fact they smoke weed.

They are vocal


But they're basically the niggers of the marijuana world.

>>17928951
People with addictive personalities are shit.
MJ is not to blame for it.

That's psychological addiction. When people say marijuana is "not addictive", they generally mean that it isn't a physical compulsion unless they're fucking retarded. ANYTHING can be psychologically addictive.

>ITT: People who have no idea what they're talking about because weed lmao

>>17929096
Yes, you release the stress chemicals when you aren't getting what you want. Look up the biological reaction of an addiction not being satisfied. Pot is literally addictive

Does /adv/ not have mods?

This is a blatant shitpost

>>17929014
>college campuses
I will never forget the time I walked back to my dorm blackout drunk shirtless and covered in vomit in the middle of February and got a high five from the campus security guy and a friend of mine got arrested and expelled for two grams of weed the next day

>>17929085
what flavor wraps taste best?

>>17929121
Then under that definition, everything is literally addictive if your bar is just stress at not having it

>>17929125
>White Owl
White Grape, White Peach

>Swisher
Sticky Sweet, Island Madness, Twisted Berry, Summer Twist (Kush only IMO), Sweet, White Grape, Peach, Blueberry, Strawberry, Tropical.

>Good Times
Sweet (best of all sweet flavors), Cherry Delight, Green Sweet, French Grape, Champagne, Fruit Punch.

>4Kings
Sweet Delicious, Strawberry Shortcake, Banana Split, French Vanilla.

>>17929085
why are you destroying your lungs by combining massive quantities of carcinogenics with a bronchial dilator

I mean, there's no way to smoke without some damage but you're taking a blowtorch to your lungs when a match is all that's necessary

>>17928951
TLDR. Liking a high and relaxing and being strung out on Opiates are two separate things Fren

>>17929128
Yeah, everything can be addictive retard. What aren't you understanding?

Feel free to disagree, but just make sure to tell Websters dictionary you want them to change the definition of "addiction" as well

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>>17929188

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>>17929188
if everything is addictive then calling anything addictive is meaningless

you're a tool

Being high just is a fun thing to do

>>17929205
So that you must do it everywhere?

I think the act of smoking itself can be addictive but MJ as a substance is extremely easy to stop at any time.
I've gone years between smoking it.
While i know I don't need it, it definitely helps keep me calm. I have massive anxiety and a bit of ptsd. I could go to a dr and be given different drugs that'll likely cause me more harm over time or i can smoke a bowl to put my inner demons to rest.
I don't like to talk about it at all and i definitely don't do it in shops so I'll never be your problem.
No habit is healthy in excess but all people are addicted to something.

>tfw literally addicted to weed

I just used a rubbing alcohol pad to scrape/wipe down the inside of my pipe which I broke and then proceeded to smoke the alcohol pad

>tfw not even high as f just high

>>17929210
Because jobs fucking suck nobody wants to be at a shitty retail job so you get high

>>17929252
You're retarded.

>>17929121
I don't need you to tell me what is addictive. I research drugs, take drugs, and work to help addicts.

Addiction is very different in very subtle ways. While it might escape the notice of people who only read about it, and while they have plenty of similarities, the rush of endorphins you get from accomplishing one of your habits, like the psychological effect of smoking even before the high sets in, is not the same thing as the actual physical dependence on opiates.

Since this is a weed thread now, can anyone help me?

I dislike the stigma of weed but I believe there's no denying it has medicinal qualities, or just qualities that are just plain helpful. Yet I know nothing about weed, never had any friends growing up that introduced me to it.

If I ever wanted to start, what do I do first? Is there a way I can smoke at home or with someone I trust and am comfortable with? How do I arrange this shit? I don't want a bad trip on my first time and I don't want to smoke around people I don't know

Are there people who can't go a day without smoking? Yeah. Are there people who do stupid shit for weed? Everywhere.

Is weed addictive? No, and anyone who says otherwise literally doesn't know what they're talking about. The colloquial definition of addiction is not the actual, medical one. Just like "decimated" means 1/10th and not "destroyed".

>>17928951
It has no addictive properties to it. It can and is addicting to some and maybe most users.

The fact that people smoke it in public often doesn't mean it is addictive. It just means they enjoy smoking it in public.

The shakiest part of town may be better or worse than you view it as a traveler. People come to m city (tourist city) and the ones who walk by or drive past my neighborhood consider it "the hood". This is maybe half as bad as people think it is. Even coworkers (more locals) who only drive through once in a while think it's really bad when it's not.

Famous people getting stopped for it doesn't mean it is addictive.

Maybe with the husband story it wasn't about not being able to wait. Maybe he just wanted to be at his house while smoking. He could have smoked it literally anywhere else. That story isn't just about bud. He could have used pills instead and now your point pertaining to this would be invalid.

Peoples who smoke bud and do stupid shit are stupid. It's not the bud's fault. It's lack of self control and/or lack of self awareness. They may make bud look bad.

Honestly, and I'm being honest here, it seems like you need to smoke bud the most out of anyone here.

>>17929125
Unprocessed green leaf. Unless you're trying to cover up the taste of low quality marijuana.

Game Green by Garcia y Vega is an inexpensive way to try.
Dutch Masters is top notch.

>>17929195
>if everything is addictive

See:
>>17929188
>everything can be addictive

>>17929435
Relax, you can't bad trip on marihuana. In extreme cases you can get a bit paranoid or anxious but nowhere near as bad as a bad trip.

Just smoke it with a buddy and watch a silly movie or something. Make sure you have snacks.

>>17929442
>people are literally medically addicted to weed
>>>>>>its not addictive JEEZ

weedfags are worse than furries

>>17929252
Damn dude calm down

>>17929723
Read it again

>>17929723
Are you implying that there are people who are physically dependant on weed?

>>17928974
Weed is more controversial

>>17929038
What ghetto shit hole are living in where the staff are just okay with this woman ripping a joint?

>>17929146
>>17929707
>Best wraps
>anything but backwoods
FUCKING PLEBS

>>17928961
This.

It takes a look into the world of potheads (or even yourself if you've smoked) to notice that wanting to make a temporal "aid" permanent is detrimental to your perception of reality and self.

>>17929014
Looks like someone is buttblasted because his favorite drug was insulted.

OP here. Just to be clear, I don't have a problem with the substance. Some of you really may think this is all completely acceptable because you share the habit and it makes sense to you, but to a non-smoker, these behaviours are just perceived as rude, stupid and unnecessary. When you don't smoke, these things just really get in your face. I just wanted to understand the motivation behind it, and why weed in particular gathers this crowd.
Party drugs seem to have a cult of their own, but people don't bring it up every second.
It's a little weird considering people just didn't feel so comfortable about bringing this public only a few years ago. It was a fast change in culture.

>>17930127
>It's a little weird considering people just didn't feel so comfortable about bringing this public only a few years ago. It was a fast change in culture.
This is probably because legalization for medicinal and/or recreational use has been changing so rapidly. The social rules and expectations are extremely unclear right now. People are experimenting with boundaries.

If heroin was currently on the rise as medicinally and recreationally legal, you would see people bringing it up in conversation with strangers and using it in unexpected places.

>>17928951
It doesn't cause chemical dependency like most drugs so in that sense it isn't addictive.
In terms of actual addictive potential it is far below porn and videogames.
I am not saying that people don't depend on it to numb them to the world and that some people aren't dependent on it for those qualities, but compared to most things out there it really isn't that bad.

I decided to stop smoking weed one day and I quit without any cravings. Meanwhile I still can't quit this fucking website and I can't quit watching porn.

>>17929847
He stated his argument well , I see no problem, queerbait