My crush asked if she could kiss me other day. I said yes although

>>17917699

You have to be 18 years or older to post on this board.

>>17917703
I'm 20. Why are you here if you're not going to give me advice?

Ask her if she really wants you to go fuck someone else first.

You're being played and I have no idea how you can't see this.

>>17917734
I've been thinking that, but I don't understand why she keeps kissing me and shit. Why would she do this?

>>17917734
^

>>17917739
Because some people find playing with other people's feelings fun. Mystery solved.

>>17917746
I don't think that's the case? Her and I are good friends we have become really close recently. I ignored her for a few days and she was going crazy. Sending me 20+ texts a day, telling me shit like "I need you In my life" "you really mean a lot to me" and shit like that. I don't think she would do that to me

>>17917751
see>>17917734
Stranger things have happened than a woman toying with a virgins emotions

>>17917751
>I don't think she would do that to me
That's exactly what someone being preyed upon would say.
You're. Being. Played.
You're. A. Toy. For. Her.
Her motivations don't matter, you're still being played no matter what they are. You need to be concerned about what you do now. And the answer is stay or go, it's up to you.

>>17917699
Next time it happens just take it further until your dick is in her pussy.

If she stops you at any point just get dressed and walk out.

tell her upfront if you can put your peepee in her slit. If she says no, tell her why she doesn't want to. After this, you decide if you want keep her or not.

>>17917699
fucker her, man. what are you waiting for?
you have to take the things to other levels, and drive the situation, many women never going to admit ehat thry want to do. Now, Do not force her to do anythings, Be more adventurous when you be kissing her.

>>17917746
but usually those types of bitches only ever tease, seems like op is actually getting some form of action here.

>>17917699
ask her for a BJ. seems kind of mean of her to not do anything to help you nut.

how naked have the both of you been together?

was she on her period or something or has she repeatedly declined sex?

do you spend a lot of money on her or constantly have to pay for things?

>>17917731
>>17917699

im wondering if she is afraid you will get too attached to her. i would ask the question that the other anon i replied to posted.

maybe you could like make a compromise and bang an escort first?

>>17918396
Have had fully naked in bed a few times. Always declining. Especially when I'm trying to finger her. I have but not recently, she doesn't ask me to pay for things

Update...

Went over her place this morning. Was cuddling for a while then I start kissing her neck, I take her bra down, she seems really into it then I begin to finger then she starts crying. Mood is completely killed she begins talking about rape and shit. Don't have much to say to that.

Shortly after I get up to leave, she tries to get me to stay and kisses my neck and runs her fingers through my hair. That's when I ask her why she won't have sex with me. Doesn't give me a straight answer so I just walk about. Texts me saying she going to be crying all day and shit. What the fuck do I even do?

>>17918843
Walk out*

>>17917709
Good job getting to 20 and not getting baby-baited. What exactly do you want advice with? You're on the right path already.
>Refused at first
>Comes back anyway for some kiss kiss touch touch
>Says no sex (see step 1)
>???
>Profit
You're gonna get laid bruh

>>17918898
Well I tried I fucking her just earlier and got denied yet again. Still think I'm still gonna get laid?

>>17918843
She sounds like trouble. I honestly don't know what you should do. Maybe phase her out of your life before police come to pick you up?

>>17918912
Stop "trying" to fuck her and fuck her already

Grab dat mo fuckin pussy

>>17918935
Did you read that last big post I made? I began to finger her then she denies me again. I took my pants off and everything, I thought this was going to be the time.

>>17917699
Next time you're fingerblasting her, just get her good and revved up and stick your dick in.

Take what's yours, OP.

>>17918843
So she's struggling with rape trauma and you wonder why she doesn't want to sleep with you? Jfc dude.

>>17918843
she is into you and you treated her pretty shitty, but she is crazy, so she will come to you and have sex with you soon.

if you want to help her, get hier into therapy for having been raped, that would also mean doing the world a favor. but as you are probably a poorfag aswell, do what every poorfag does: make lot's of babies with her that grow up in a shitty household while she becomes a deadbeat shitty drugged mother with aids from her black dealer.

Tl;Dr: damaged people (like this raped girl) can not be healed, the best bet is sending them to therapy. it's kind of like you take the normal female insecurities and tripple them and stapple them to their forehead for the rest of their lifes, so they will not have a single second without it on their mind.

I have had a damaged LTR Ex and they cant handle criticism, because it's not just them and it's not just a random rape. They grew up in a shithole with adopted fathers molesting them, mothers neglecting them and wishing they would not exist etc. Whenever you say anything bad, you become a part of everything she is fighting against since the beginning of her life.

>>17917699
she wants you to pin her down and ram her....
hint for life: girls aren't really the best at rationalizing their feelings,
so she says she doesn't want to, but she keeps snuggling with you

another hint for life: girls don't simply open their legs and say "hey wanna have sex", they expect the man to read her feelings and take the action for her

>>17918843
oh now I've read the update, and basically this
>>17919044 and >>17919054
so she is struggling with some trauma, and seems like she likes you and wants you to help her somehow...
first thing you could is really have a sit down with her and hear her out, just sharing the story might be a good help
then she might be trusting more on you and things can take off from there, just be considerate and take it slow

I'm trying to convince her to let me come over and talk to her right now. Probably talk about the rape thing and gaining her trust or some bs along those lines.

>>17919153
>some bs along those lines
>bs
Leave her alone, she's better off without you

>>17919156
You don't know me. You don't know our situation. All the shit I've done for her, all the shit I've been through just to see her happy. I'm the best she has right now.

>>17919165
>I'm the best she has right now.
Doesn't mean she can't do better. If you had the choice of eating nothing and eating shit, would you still eat the shit? No you fucking wouldn't.

>>17919165
Not him/her but I know you well enough from your posts that you don't really give two shits about her well being as long as you can sink it. You're just going to hurt her more.

>>17917751
Hoooly shit i can't believe people this oblivious exist...

>>17917781
I second this

>>17918843
See, I knew you would man up
That's not what an alpha would do, but certainly not what a beta would do. You're on the right path pal

>>17918935
In complete honesty, she does seem a bit crazy... My suggestion would be to never break the unwritten rule: don't stick your dick in crazy

>>17917731
This. Girls who do shit like this are only using you until they're ready to find someone else. She'll drop you like a fly as soon as she thinks she found him.

>>17918843
You've got to DESTROY HER anon... SEXUALLY! Oh my god stick it in there and UNF UNF UNF DE LA UNF UNF DE LA UNF!

>>17919231
Well what would an alpha do then

>>17919077
Thanks for the advice. I pretty much ignored her when she brought it up. But she brought it up a couple times before but hasn't gone into too much detail

she's probably having a hard time overcoming trauma from sexual assault.
you can either: be patient with her and help her through it, or walk out if you don't want to/can't deal with it.
those are your best options.

>>17919947
I really want to help her. I really do. But its just so hard, I suck at these kind of things. Don't even know where to begin

I know I got here late, and I didn't read the entire tread because I got bored of all the ill-informed insight.

She, like all women, wants something adventurous. Taking your virginity just like that would be boring, so she told you she wouldn't, in order to make a little drama and make you work for it. Secretly, she wants you to force yourself on her - but in an intimate way. Next time, don't make it a conversation. She tells you no, you tell her all the things you're going to do to her. She tells you stop, you tell her how she's going to feel how deep you're inside her.

She's not telling you this shit because she wants to talk about it, she does it because she wants excitement and forbidden things. She's not playing you, she wants you to play along with her.

>>17920000
She has been raped in the past. And it has really fucked her up mentally, its quite obvious. You think this is really the best course of action?

>>17920020
Did you check my quints?

Yes, I understand that she's been raped, but that's not going to stop her having sex ever again, and will most likely lead to her developing a kink for rape fantasty. I'm not telling you to actually force yourself on her physically, just help her build some of the notion.

I'm with women all the time who talks about how rape is the worst thing that can happen to anyone ever, and can never be forgiven etc. - but they still want to be held down, fucked hard, taken by surprise, choked and bound.

It's not litteral, it's a fantasy. Things you do in bed isn't porn or a movie, it can still be a beautiful, tender, loving, caring and hot thing, even if it carries notions of danger and antagony. The trust to do so is part of what makes it intimate.

>>17920043
quads even

>>17920043
This! See also >>17919908

>>17917699
Do not go on here for this type of advice. You're not going to get anything healthy.If she has had a history with any type of sexual assault or rape, do not pressure for anything farther. Respect those boundaries. She's kissing you and shit because not everything is sex, she still might want to have sexual stuff going on, but she just doesn't want to have sex. There seems to be an emotional problem, dont ask 4chan.

>>17920104
This. At least recently. All you're gonna get out of these people is bait and a few actual opinions that look like they came from /v/ or /pol/...

Final update for now, if anyone's lurking...

Had a talk with her about today and just about us in general. Nothing crazy happened. She kissed me on the cheek and told me "good things come to those who wait."

>>17920301
Then wait fag

>>17920324
Will do nigger. Just wanted to let you all know what's up. She also put my finger in her mouth too tryna be all flrity n shit.

>>17917781
that's how i made my (virgin, christian) college gf not a virgin
if you keep hanging like you are it'll slowly progress.
>cuddling>kissing>groping>top off>sucking tits>grinding>pants off>grinding through underwear>"kind of" penetration>penetration
is how it went for me over 1-2 months

>>17920301
Great. I didn't mean to imply that you should go for the forceful choking first thing.

Just don't fall into the trap of waiting around needingly. In other words, have a fun and pleasant time with her, but don't make it your number one priority to fuck her. Pretend it'll happen within three weeks, and you'll be surprised.

move in to take her virginity, fuck that bitch

>>17920336
I'm the virgin. Not her

>>17920334
Yeah man I'm just act casual. If she continues to kiss me and shit should i accept it or just reject her or something along those lines?

Move on find another girl

>>17920341
Just hang on anon, when you feel ready dont ask and just go for it, I lost my virginity around that time and to be honest if you are anything like me you probably just want to be done with it, heck, the first time I fucked my dick went limp like 3 mins in, girl told me to read kama sutra and some shit and also kind of warned me "you should practice, girls like to talk about this stuff", kek like I give a fuck about any of that, second time I fucked I went raw and it was a little more enyojable but to be honest its kind of overated. I suggest you hang on and just get it over, btw not being a virgin didnt bring me any joy at all but it is seriously a relief to no longer be a 20+ virgin, I would even recommend you also stick out and start dating her, that way you can kill 2 birds with one stone and pretend to be a normal functioning young adult.

>>17920301
>>17920328

Hook, line, and sinker. You'll be back next month making a "dude she fucking left me, I feel so betrayed" thread.