What is worse? Fapping or watching porn? Is fapping without porn

Porn is problem.

Jerk the gherk is gud

>>17912308
Both are not problem in moderation.

Fapping once a day is ok and good for you, fapping once per hour is not.

Watching porn is kind of dangerous but as long as you limit yourself to soft/normal porn and won't lurk for fucked up shit you should be fine.

Just watch the TED talk 'The Great Porn Experiment'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

It will tell you why NoFap is even a thing. If you want more detail there's another video on the presenters website (yourbrainonporn) which covers a lot of the current science and studies on the effects of high speed internet porn. The effects of which are only now really becoming apparent because that kind of porn viewing has only been possible/become mainstream over the last ten years.

Personally I think the biggest problem with NoFap is that it's called NoFap which sort of implies that fapping is the problem, when in fact porn consumption is the real problem.

But seriously, just watch the video. There's no point listening to anyone here, even me. That video and that guys website are basically the holy grail for NoPorn/NoFap.

Why the fuck do I get connection failed messages when I try to post with anything but the comment box at the top of the page? Anyway...

>but as long as you limit yourself to soft/normal porn you should be okay
Unfortunately that's not the case. Feel free to make use of the above link and read up on the effects of high speed internet porn. Over stimulation of the brain and the dulling of your sexual senses by heavy porn consumption will happen whether you're watching home made amateur regular sex or dragon dildo horse fucking.

>>17912543

>once a day.

Lmfao. Once a week, bro.

>>17912568
I've just watched and I think it is almost mind-blowing. Even though I don't consider myself an addict, I am pretty sure I am being affected by those symptoms. Sometimes I do have erectile dysfunction and performance anxiety.
Seems like all have to completely stop browsing porn. :(

>>17912668 One more thing:
Do you guys think sexy instagram pics also count as porn? From the explanation from the start of the video (multiple hot babes), it seems like it counts, doesn't it?

>>17912677
Yes of course it's porn.

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>>17912684
Technically it isn't, is it? I am referring to pics like pic related where the girl isn't nude or doing a sexy pose.
But if I fapping to it, I guess it counts.

>rip in piece, princess ;_;

>>17912677
>instagram pics
Basically yes. If you do some more research into it you'll find that in order for people to recover fully and quickly you don't just have to stop watching porn videos but kill off any thing that triggers the same things in your brain. Browsing hot instagram pics, tinder profiles, hot girls on facebook etc. is basically not much different from browsing thumbnails on a porntube site. You're seeing hot girls and you're getting the constant novelty that's talked about in the video. So by doing that you're keeping those neural pathways you built by watching porn strong. When you really need to cut off all stimulation to them and let them die and just rebuild/strengthen the natural ones.

Check out the website 'ourbrainonporn'. Reading can be kind of boring so check out the videos section and watch the first few. You'll learn plenty if you want to.

BTW, I'm not OP.

>>17912716
Damn, it is pretty impressive how we can be unconsciously (without us realizing it) and unintentionally (if it is taking researchers this long to figure it out, porn producers/site owners didn't know about these effects) brainwashed, isn't it?

It will be kinda frustrating having to stop even looking at pics. But it shouldn't be too hard for me. I stopped compulsively saving porn and I don't look at the porn folders that frequently.

Thanks, anon(s).

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>tfw don't want to stop fapping because it's the only thing close to sex I ever get
>tfw it's the only thing dulling my loneliness from zero success with women

>>17913127

Dangerous cycle.

>Feel bad cause no gf

>Masturbate cause feel bad

>Feel good for a few seconds

>feel bad again after you cum

>fap again to feel better

>feel even worse

>Now too tired and unmotivated to flirt with girls and meet gf.