until i find something useful, i won't stop to bump this

>>17875212
women are retarded
all you need to know

>>17875212

>if you're not going to talk, why did we match

because your first photo was attractive enough to get my attention. once we matched either your other photos were too ugly, or I waited for you to impress me and nothing happened. i have hundreds of matches so i dont bother to delete them. after all, sometimes an old match will message me again and that will be the day im in the mood. but in a sea of 'hey's i only respond to the ones who look cuter have something interesting to say etc. but that changes from day to day.

>what the fuck are you doing on the app

talking to cute dudes. even the really cute ones i dont always meet. the vibe has to be right. i meet maybe one guy off tinder a month.

>whats your expectation from a guy who matched with you

nothing really, other than courtesy. i dont think leser of men just for saying 'hey' i just dont feel the urge to respond. this isn't a contest. this isn't some game where if you hit the right spots im guaranteed to do anything. women are not robots running the same software. pressing the same buttons wont get the same results.

i just talk to guys who have something interesting to offer and i try to offer something interesting in return. admittedly im more passive, sometimes i say 'hey'. or 'lol' cuz i dont know what to say to what they say. i know you guys think were being cunts but we really DONT KNOW what to say either. we are not magical social genies. you say something and sometimes all we can figure out to say is 'oh cool'. were just like you in that were not sure what to do.

>what he needs to write to you

again, not robots, not all the same. i need a guy to say something interesting. sometimes hey is enough if hes cute enough. sometimes its not. sometimes on different days i find different kinds of guys attractive. sometimes im busier than others. sometimes i forget certain matches exist.

>>17875853
>>17875212

>i do have a high level of social anxiety

we could tell.

>i grew up alone

okay (one of those examples of girls not knowing what to say to what a guy says here)

>i had dates

okay (again)

>i do not text like "hey girl you've a nice dog", "hey sexy xD xD" or bullshit like this.

i dont like emoticons myself cuz i find them condescending most of the time. giphys can be fun cuz there is a more ironic sense to them most of the time. there's nothing wrong with complimenting my dog if i had one. sometimes guys compliment my cat. as long as they dont make a sex joke about my 'pussy' its okay. it usually opens up to me talking about my cat which is good... nless you dont like cats but we probably shouldn't date them.

> i do greet like "hi, how are you?" as a normal person.

thats fine. if im not busy ill respond if ur cute.

>i do not have photos with fedoras, hats, katanas, weapons, or something disturbing.

i cant speak for other girls but i like pictures of weapons.

> i find joke attempts kinda dangerous. i try to avoid making jokes at first.

thats weird but whatever.

- i may sound like i'm desperate but if you think my message is kinda desperate, what the fuck are you doing on that fucking app? science work? test? fun?

were just on tinder to meet guys and chill. were not desperate. just busy or open minded. you in particular are desperate cuz you posted super sayians and ranting about women as a collective force ignoring you.

>more importantly, we matched. you also liked me.

matched does not mean we like you. we dont examine profiles before matching. we swipe left if ur immediately ugly. right if you're cute.

if you message me i usually check your profile. if there is anything interesting and you check out as a cutie, i will generally respond. but just a 'hey hows it going' with a 'meh' looking guy isn't great. ill unmatch if its a guaranteed no. but i usually dont unmatch cuz i just got too many matches to manage like that.

>>17875853
sorry, what is in terms of "interesting"? can you please define "interesting"?

>>17875870
define cute also, lol. show an example what is cute for you. and stop limiting it with tinder, please. and stop talking as "we". >17875853
was a quite fair answer i though.

>>17875891
Lol ur fucked

>>17875891

again, not robots. literally anything can be interesting. i think whats really 'interesting' is just cohesion. someguys like to talk about themselve.s some guys just let the woman talk about themselves. both are really annoying. the guy talking is usually not something i like and just me talking is shit i already know and them asking annoying non cohesive follow up questions.

an interesting conversation is something we both get some back and forth out of.

i think the problem here is you are asking for specifics, trying to figure out a science to talking to women (re: people) and there isn't one. pick up artists are called artists for a reason, not scientist. every approach is different, every result is different. get fifty guys and tell them to paint a flower and they will each paint drastically different flowers with drastically different techniques based on what they like and what works for them.

>>17875902

>define cute also
>post a picture

the problem with that is there are a million different kinds of cute. I like cute youthful curly haired boys that are sweet and funny. but i also like really rugged ginger lumberjacks. i like geeky brazilian guys and macho gym rats, and distinguished older guys, and skinny uber dorks.

you have to remember that looks are cohesive. you can describe someone who is
>5'10"
>brown hair
>brown eyes
>fit

and that would describe millions upon millions of men who look nothing alike. many of whom would be ugly as fuck. its really the little details and how they line up that decides if someone is attractive or not.

>>17875212
>>17875212
1) they swipe right on everyone
2) or they already found a guy they like
3) you wrote something rude in your summary
4) unattractive pictures compared to the other suggestions

>>17875919
>i think the problem here is you are asking for specifics, trying to figure out a science to talking to women (re: people) and there isn't one.

indeed, i'm looking for specificities. for example; two days ago i created an okc account. i got 17 profile visits and 5 mutual likes (2 of them are quite above average i though. i just wanted to like them, and got liked in couple hours by them) within couple hours from my city. i checked their profiles, and sent messages according to their interests. literally, no answer. none! i'm not expecting a reply in a sec but come on. none? either i've serious communication problems which i really would like to understand -and if there's, then wanna solve it too- or this is just how it is. in general, this is something i would like to challenge in a respectful way. if i find something fair, i will say it's fair. period. but cuteness or interesting, what i see in here is more like personal and depends on girl's mood, no consistency, and it's more about luck. nothing else.

I tried Tinder once for 3 days. I had a bunch of matches. I answered to the ones that said something interesting. 95% just said some variation of "Hi, how are you?". I'm shy so I didn't feel like having some boring smalltalk. And I messaged a couple of guys who had interesting bios, but I couldn't get them to answer much.

Anyway. The answer to your question. Why did we match? Because I thought you looked decent. Same as a bunch of other guys. If you want me to talk to you be remotely interesting. I'm not desperate to hook up so I'm not going to talk to everyone.

>>17876003
> I'm not desperate to hook up
this is not about fuckin' hook up. if i really into fucking, i will pay good amount of money to a high class escort and get a gfe.

this is more about communication. this is more about as a guy, what i do wrong. where i fail most.

>>17875212
We matched because we both think we are decent looking.
Now, to be realistic - I matched with other guys. I don't have time to talk to everyone I match with. The two things I value ehen I pick who I want to talk to are physical attractiveness and the opening message.

If you want to maximise your chances of catching my attention, unless you are absurdly attractive, you have to differentiate yourself from the 20 other average looking guys who said some variation of "Hey". Keep it brief, make it witty, and give me something to talk about.

>>17876020

Isn't Tinder a hook up app though? Anyway I don't know what you do wrong, I just told you why I don't reply to everyone on Tinder.

>>17876040
>Keep it brief, make it witty, and give me something to talk about.
one example you liked from one of your match, please.

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I get matches and conversation and my bio is shit, clean yourself up or something lad

>>17876043
>Isn't Tinder a hook up app though?
don't know, don't care. and was not the point.

"hi, how are you?" is normal, but it's boring as fuck when women are getting as many matches as they want in a day. You're not sticking out from the crowd.

You have to make jokes and put yourself out there, ask interesting questions about her based on her pics and profile, whatever she may like. Girls aren't all the same. There isn't something I can type out here that you can copy and paste and it'll work for all women.

>>17876047
I mentioned I was insomniac in my profile. This guy said "If you cannot sleep, I'm your guy. I am boring as fuck". Simple but funny.
A guy saw my bookshelf in the background of one of my pics and made a reference to one of the books - loved it, immediately texted him back.

>>17876049
I actually like your bio.

>>17876053

Oh sorry I thought you were talking about tinder for some reason. I didn't bother reading this version of the thread, was answering based on what I remembered from the bazillion threads you made.

Anyway I don't know what you're looking for here. Imagine a girl has 30 guys saying the same thing to her. Why would she reply to YOU? I was so bored by that I literally replied to anything else.

>>17876079
nothing to be sorry and don't make it personal.

i don't know either anymore and deleted my okc account 5 mins ago. i've already deleted tinder and happn too. anyways, thanks for the replies.

>>17875989

relationships are luck.even your friendships, a lot of it is luck: being in the right place at the right time and happening to talk about the right things.

romance is even more fragile because we are only allowed to date one guy. so why should anyone (male or female) settle for the first nice guy to say hi?

despite your desire there is no specifics. despite you saying its not fair that we have moods or personal reasons it is. its literally fair to not be interested in someone one day and into them the next. if you're looking for consistency, don't date.

>>17876020

stop thinking of it as failure when someones not into you. again, its not a contest. we dont award vaginal intercourse to people who pass a test.

we date / fuck guys who we match up with. a match is not a pass, its not a fail, its not an A, its not an F. its just a match.

stop holding yourself to an imaginary standard held up by an entire gender.

>>17876049

>play guitar shirtless

I'm gonna need some proof of this. for science.

i first joined tinder as a joke. to troll... but i got caught up. i did hit up guys and reply. but i think most women are afraid to be seen as a slut for using such app, and they're just self conscious & trying to know what's their league/where to aim irl.