I am in my early 30s now All my friends are settling down. Steady

> Is not having a wife, kid, house, career tin your 30s really the end of the world?

Not at all, but it can feel that way depending on where you live. You might want to consider life in a region where people settle down later like urban new york or cali or the pacific northwest (assuming you're a usian)

>>17865479

I'm in a boring, conservative part of the UK

you should take some time off and travel. sounds like you're one of those retards who has lived in the same neighborhood for his whole life and doesn't know there's more to life than that shit

You need to choose one and go after it
This indecision is the biggest crime

You can change later

>>17865509

This.

Widen your views OP, and it will start to look like your friends are the ones missing out.

>>17865502
Figure out a way to move to one of the hipper parts of england or scotland then. Aim for a big city if you can make that happen. You'll be around a lot more single people your age and under less pressure to settle down at the same time.

>>17865509
>>17865519

I went travelling for 2 months last year around Asia

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First off, families are a scam. Nearly half of people who try to start a family end up getting divorced and never seeing their kids again.
Second, those men are not happy. Their wives cheat on them, their kids are shit, and their jobs are a dead end. They are settling down, because they've given up.
You may not be as happy as you could be, but you wouldn't be happy with a family.

>>17865540
who the fuck goes to asia? what are you a fucking hippie? go to mainland europe or just visit scotland like a fucking man. jesus christ kill yourself. i bet you vote for the socialists too.

>>17865380
>Is not having a wife, kid, house, career tin your 30s really the end of the world?

Nope. But I am in my 30s as well, and god if I know those conflicted feelings. The "box ticking" anxiety is real.

If you can't afford to travel abroad, you should find a way to meet new people, and broaden the horizons of your daily life.

>>17865544
Honestly, this sounds like a troll but its a LOT more fun to go to white countries, you can really party with them in the bars and meeting people is amazing. Or maybe you are Asian and you did that, oh well.

Just remember Scarface "first you get the money, then the power, then you get the women"

Do what you can to make money and meet people. Even if its shallow as fuck. Then you might get a position somewhere, or management. Then a woman will spy you driving in your new car. Then you'll "hit it off" then you'll screw, marry, have kids.

Its all you need to do.

If you cannot make money then I dunno bro, get your MBA? Get a advanced degree? Do your thang.

>>17865541
I concur. One close friend settled for his now wife and Im sure she did the same. whenever I go over, which becomes less and less these days, I'm ususally calling her out on her shit that he just overlooks to not cause a fight. Want to save money to move out of that apt? Why did you buy this bullshit, it's a waste and it just sits in the corner. I'm burning through friends slowly cause their wives don't want me around. Oh well

>>17865544
>not visiting Thailand for the ladyboys

Faggot.

>>17865380
It's not a bad thing to not desire a domestic life, but if all you do is sit in one place and think about why you don't have a domestic life then you're not going to feel any better.

>>17865513
I would rate this as the best advice for you right now. My indecision as to what to do in life holds me back more than anything. Once I decide on a course of action I feel better dedicating myself to making it happen.

On that note, >>17865528 and >>17865509 both have a good underlying point: move yourself to a place where you have more choices than "sit around and be pestered by your friends." Living in an apartment in the city, it will be a change of pace and place. If you plan it right no one will know you there and you can become whoever you want to be.

>>17865380
> Is not having a wife, kid, house, career tin your 30s really the end of the world?
Obviously not. It all depends on what you want and if you're undecided about it, having kids is a horrible idea already.

You'll be always missing out, whatever your choice is.

You need to accept the reality that you're single and broke and your friends are settled down and financially secure not because they're "box tickers" and you're a "wandering nomad", but because you're unambitious, you lack the skills, diligence or education for a real job, you can't manage your finances and can't hold a relationship -- probably in part because of the aforementioned vices.

I'm not trying to be cruel, but I see this shit all the time. "Dude le marriage and kids and job is a scam blah blah blah" -- it's people unable to face the reality that yes, they are a fucking loser and no "braahh life is meaningless" rhetoric will free them of that. Saying you don't want to get married and have a job because you're worried it'll suck the meaning out of life is like those scrawny cunts who start gym and say they don't want to get "tooo big".

I dont think you should travel, because you don't deserve it, and it won't fix your problems or your state of mind.

>>17866820
No offense, but you sound like a dick.
OP may not be a successful business man, but being married with kids and mortgage on a house is a dead end in life. OP is undoubtably less miserable than the average married man.
And traveling will at least get OP out of his town, which would make him feel less stagnant.
Again, not saying OP is successful, but married with children is by no means a success.

>>17865380
An Hero. You're too far behind to ever catch up.

>>17866847
>OP is undoubtably less miserable than the average married man.

I highly doubt it. Because of his insistence in life to never be "one of those phonies, they're miserable!", he'll now lead a life twice as miserable, with absolutely nothing to show for it.

>>17865380

You feel empty and driftless because you have no aim or goals in life.

You will continuously feel this emptiness because you are not working toward something.

>>17866888
I'm going to break this down for you
>marrage
Typically fun for the first year, marriage typically results in infidelity, celebacy for long periods of time, spousal financial dependcy, and divorce.
>children
Something to spend nearly all your previous disposable income and time on. You can't kick them out until they are 18. They become the reason your wife stays with you if any at all. Because they're your genetic offspring, they'll likely suffer through virtually everything you did as a child. They're a burden overall.
>a house
It's something you'll likely never pay off and will erratically fluctuate in value beyond your own understanding. You don't own it, but the banks try to convince you that you do.

These three factors in your life combine to completely trap you into the textbook definition of a wage slave. You can't get rid of the kid. Your wife will take half of your assets if you leave her. And you wouldn't dream of selling that house, would you?

OP is fortunate not to live that life.

>>17865380
I'm in my early 40's(openly heterosexual)and not a family man. My brothers have a family and it ain't an easy life.I bet my brothers envy me for having a free life. Live your life free and don't be fooled by traditional stereotypes that are things from the past. Laugh your arse when your friends start suffering from midlife crisis. That's when the shit gonna hit the fan.

>>17865380
>Steady jobs for past decade or more, mortgages, wives/fiances, kids will be next. They all seem so happy.

just wait what will happen after the honeymoon period is over. the wife is going to be sucking dick from the assholes on /adv/ because of their unmasculine husband back at home. marriage and monogamy is unnatural. like it or not we came from animals and you don't see any other animal marrying. also the only few animals that are supposedly monogamous like birds still cheat. in some species of birds the female likes to cheat at night and lays new eggs that are not from the original bird male. also your friends are morons for accepting a shitty deal but great for the woman because she gets all the legal protect at the expense of men.

>>17865579
Were you raised by wolves? You don't criticize another man's woman. It embarrasses the woman, and humiliates the man. For fucks sake man.

get out some paper and start making a list of things you like. unplug the video games, or television, or whatever you have been doing with your time, not necessarily permanently, just give it a break for a while so you can focus on what you want, rather than being distracted by what the advertisers tell you you want.

re-arrange the list prioritizing what's most important to you top to bottom.

once you've established what you want out of life, then make a plan to get it.
after you've made a plan to get what you want, revise the plan as necessary to make it realistic, and ask yourself is it really worth the effort?
if you answer yes, then follow your plan.
if you answer no, then get a hooker and go out with a bang

To the young'in reading this thread.

Make sure you don't miss the boat like the people here did. You can smell the resentment.

>>17866942
Not all marriages end in failure... You're a fucking idiot.

>>17866970
50% of marriages end in divorce, of course, some people get divorced more than one. I think still, 30%-40% of married people get at least one divorce. And of the remaining 60%-50% of marriages that didn't end how many are miserable? At the very least half, and that is generous. So 1 in 4 marriages have a chance lof being tolerable. But probably way fewer.

>>17866970
>not all
84%
>see there, 16% tough it out for the sake of the children, and then find themselves too old, fat and or unattractive to date anymore and just decide to stay together.

>>17866970
well sometimes miracles happen even when all the odds are stacked against in marriage. if you want to take that chance then I hope you are ready to have your wife pull the trigger on you with a divorce. she will take your children away from you because courts are biased against fathers and you will have to pay her alimony/child support. I hope you enjoy living your rest of your miserable life working to support your wife who now has your home and you are force to live in your car like many men do after marrying.

>>17865380
you should at least have a career OP.

wife, kid and house can be a blessing or a burden depending on your personality and preferences, but financial stability is a plus no matter which way you slice it. and having money and security makes is to having the wife, kids, and house is less stressful.

>>17866970
The institution of marriage is long dead. There's no longer any use for it. Women can support themelves, and don't need or respect men in the same manner as it was 100 years ago. Also, divorce is just too acceptable.
The reason people still get married is retarded. It's usually "welp, I'm 30, I guess I gotta get married now. I wouldn't want to be one of those losers who doesn't getter married."

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>>17865380
You might be in the wrong culture. Youre allowed to be choosy because its the one person that will do everything with you. It could be someone you find traveling. Yu dont seem like the settle down type. Move to a mountain and go snowboarding. Who knows, maybe you'll meet someone

>>17867095
drawing people in a condescending way doesn't actually make you right

I mean, honestly that doesn't even make fucking sense. It's true, not all X are like that, you SHOULD factor that in, it DOES completely require you to go 'back to the drawing board'

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>>17866980
>So 1 in 4 marriages have a chance lof being tolerable.
People from broken families should stop reproducing.

>>17865380
I am only 26 myself but I am very familiar with the feelings you're describing. All my old friends from high school were "box tickers" as you call them, but I was always the one who seemed to miss the memo, whether it was not going to an ivy league or not playing varsity sports, whatever. They're all up-and-coming yuppies in the tech world now, and I ended up a fairly established touring musician (a real one, I promise, broke 100k all-time album sales this year) but I'm still broke as fuck. They have big salaries, and I had to get government assistance for my health insurance last month. I often yearn for the structure and comfort they've always seem to have had in doing life the "right way," but I've never been able to reconcile that with who I am. I don't think I could even access their world if I dedicated myself to it day and night from now on.

However, in my limited experience, I have come to realize that they're actually fuckups in their own ways. At this point, I am a pretty well adjusted guy who has had a lot of experience in relationships and deep friendships and people often come to me for advice or to be talked down, etc. These successful friends of mine still have actual teenager-tier interpersonal drama, and when I get close to them I realize they haven't made any progress in maturing emotionally. In some ways they have progressed less than I.

I guess the point is that we all take different paths, and we grow at different rates in different areas. In any case, it is a terrible idea to "get" a wife and kids because you feel like you should (the way a small subset of /pol/ posters seem to); that's a great way to want to shoot yourself in the head at 40.

You should try to envision the things in life you want to build on, the kind of person you want to be, and then what kind of things that person would do. I would say the one thing you want to get on top of is your financial life. You don't want to wake up old and poor.

>>17867237
I didn't draw that, and it's actually a somewhat commonly used as a counter argument against post like >>17866970. But thanks for the thought.
But in the matter of making saying that not all X does something doesn't defeat a generalization. It may make it weaker, but one shouldn't go to the drawing board, so to speak, when you're going to arrive at virtually the same generalization and attitude toward X. The main reason I posted it was for laughs. It might show that poster how much of a simpleton he sounds like.
>>17867245
Your pic is funny, but not even related. The comic I posted didn't involved any exagerated figure of rage talking to a calm figure of reason. You're grasping at straws.

I just turned 40 and have been single most of my life. Yes, nearly all my friends from my younger days are married and with kids. But there are also a healthy amount of singles aged 30-50 who are just enjoying life. And I live in a mid-sized European city.

Don't sweat it, just live the life. One day you might find her and settle down. Might happen to me as well.

>>17865380
>Everyone around me is patronising me without meaning to. Everyone insists I should lower my standards and get a girlfriend by any means necessary, that I should get a job even if I despise it, that I should start saving money for my future etc. Its driving me mad.

iktfb

It's part of what motivates me to pursue my creative hobbies on the off-chance that something might become popular enough to replace a 9-5 job.

If and when that happens, then I can at least live a life that they would be jealous of - no commuting to work, vacations when I want, doing a job I love, etc.

>w..we're all gonna make it

>>17866820
Lol. 33 here probably earn way more than you and not remotely interested in marriage and kids.

>>17867475
30s is the best time of your life if you are single and with a well paid job.

>>17867484
A million times this.

People here just like to rp as condescending babyboomers to make NEETs feel uncomfortable, god knows why