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what are you views on pedophilia? >i'm a pedo, ask me

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what are you views on pedophilia?

>i'm a pedo, ask me anything.
wanting some constructive conversations
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covering the basics

>was arrested and charged years ago, for over 5k images (10 sec. of vid. is a classed as 1 image)
>aggravated and basic possession
>took 1.5yrs to get through the system to get final verdict
>sentenced to 5yrs prison got suspended due to history of working with psychs trying to get help
>was also very cooperative, answered all questions honestly and in detail
>pleaded guilty the moment they knocked on the door
>got caught on TOR (yes 90% of sites are ran by FBI or likewise organisation)
>preffered age is 5-13
>i am very interested to hear all manner of opinions and will answer questions
>i do not want to fuck children, however if others want to, its there choice
>i'm ITT for discussion, not for pizza
>inb4 kys
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>>17846817
We're you blocking JavaScript on Tor?
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>>17846842
yes mate, i was doing everything by the book.
i even had a 'dedicated' computer with java on it.
only used it for tor.
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>>17846849
*without
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>>17846817
howd you start? and how far did it go?
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Hello, komrade, living the free life with a 3yo lgf here.
:3

>>17846849
Did you post ANYTHING or anytime?
Did you visit non-big sites?
Did you enable <video> or whatever, the webm enabler?

Why the fuck didn't you encrypt and/or use tails?
I don't even (aheueheueaheua) use CP or anything and I have a tails USB just in case I need the privacy if something happens.
You DIDN'T DO IT BY THE BOOK.
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I don't really have a problem with pedophiles if they only look at pictures (and preferably don't pay for the pictures as to not create a market for them), although I'm sure I'm in the minority. I generally view morality through the lens of harm done, and jerking off to pictures doesn't hurt anyone.
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>>17846852
as a child (9, 10)i was attracted to children the same age. as i got older i was still attracted to children. eventually i reached teens and i started to look for younger on limewire. got arrested a few years later (tor) when the case was closed i was sentenced to 5 yrs prison that got suspended.
it never really goes away though, i just don't go looking for it any more. i come across models etc. that are very nice, but there not naked so its not classed as CP
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Hi OP i'm a pedo too.

Here is how I see it and how I explain it to regular people.

So anybody reading this I ask you to imagine how you would feel if suddenly you found out you were attracted to children. That's basically what my reaction was. So just remember we're normal people like you except we're going "Oh shit why is my brain doing this, please stop dear god" Basically reacting to it like any normal person would.

The way I view the attraction is this. It was something hard wired into my brain from birth that I didn't choose to be born with. It's a glitch in my brain. And I don't let a glitch in my brain have any part in defining the kind of person I am. I want to date people my age and live a normal life with a loving family I raise on my own.

And in the same way normal people don't turn into weird sexual predator perverts every time they see a person of the opposite sex, we don't react that way if we see children either. And I understand the severe abusive impact on a child that would happen if I were to touch them in any way that was inappropriate and I basically have no desire to do that because I love children, in the normal loving way you do and would not want to hurt them at all.

Can't stress that enough. We are normal, we're not perverted freaks. We're basically how you would react if you found out your brain reacted this way to kids.


At least thats how i'm reacting to it. I can't speak for every other pedo. But seriously most of us are good. Don't let the bad guys who end up on the news paint this picture that we're all that way.
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>>17846849
I see, interesting that you got caught even with blocking JS, I wonder what they are doing with TOR to get guys like you.. It's not really safe huh. I'm very much into computer privacy, read articles about it all the time, so this aspect of it is interesting to me. Which operating system were you using?
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>>17846863

it was by the book to the best of my knowledge (keeping in mind this was about 4 or 5 years ago when i got traced)

i never posted anything
never visited non big sites.
it was only a sample of the video shown in stills, you downloaded the video and viewed it off the browser.
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>>17846884
windows, dont remember what version though.
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genuine question for pedos. why do you find children attractive? whats is it about a undeveloped body that turns you on so much?
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>>17846887
so what it probably was was the video you downloaded had some undetected malware in it that through your internet connection gave you away, that's what I would theorize so far rather than blame TOR... what do you think about this?
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>>17846883
>because I love children, in the normal loving way you do and would not want to hurt them at all.

well put anon
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>>17846887
Ah, well by the books now, and for the last few years at least has been fully encrypted HDD with 30-50+ character random generated code/password minimum.
Truly by the book is tails on a USB to be used on a HDD-less hard drive.

>>17846884
There have been various other exploits.
If (s)he ever downloaded and opened a pdf that'd have fucked them if not disposed of properly. When opening a pdf it can enable a...uhm you'd think of it as a script. It will then wait till you're online (if you're not) to send a message back home.
This is why it's essential to use tails, as disconnecting your connection does nothing if you simply reconnect after viewing.

>>17846883
>Don't let the bad guys who end up on the news paint this picture that we're all that way.
Most of them aren't even pedophiles senpai

>>17846902
Tails and disconnecting after you download (before you unpack files) and then restarting tails if you make any connection to the Internet again.
Only 100% secure way.
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They just showed up to your house?
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>>17846898
evrything.
think of it as a gay man, what is it about the male body that turns him on. lgbt has only really been accepted in the last 10 yrs or so before this it was mostly illegal and still is in some countries.

>>17846902
no, thats the thing. i knew when i got caught, the very moment, page and video i was tyring to get. my exgf found my stash and deleted my fav. video (found this out much later) so of cousre i went to download it again thinking i lost it. i never even got to the download link. later i worked out the site was turned into a honeypot.
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>>17846922
so simply accessing the site got you busted even with JS turned off? interesting....
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>>17846917

yep. when they showed up i got them to clear the car so my mrs could leave. pleaded guilty and sowed them to the laptop and ext. devices.

>if they turn up at your house asking to take your computers to find CP on them, they know you have it. denying it will only get everyone pissed off and get you into more shit.
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>>17846883
>And in the same way normal people don't turn into weird sexual predator perverts every time they see a person of the opposite sex, we don't react that way if we see children either.
Pretty much how I view it. Just because someone is a pedo, doesn't mean they are a predator and if someone just jerks of to pics of kids (magazines, manga, games, holiday/family photos) I couldn't care less, even if it'd be my hypothetical kids. Obviously I'd be wary if there was a pedo kindergardener and I didn't know anything about the person beyond this two parts, but assuming they have a perfectly clean record, I'd be cool with it too.

Now supporting CP by consuming it is obviously different and closer to people who pay for legit rape videos, that's pretty fucked up.
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>>17846898
That's a hard question to answer, as it's basically everything.
I like their personalities, their behavior, their down to earthiness, their ultra-cuddly personalities, even like much of the same activities as they do (likely because they do).

Physically they have soft and plushie completions, and I always found hair, outies (really all adult vaginas), and breasts unattractive.
Basically they're cute, soft, and have better "components" than their counterparts in my opinion.
I don't think I can really describe it beyond that.

>>17846922
>my exgf found my stash
And you DIDN'T BURN EVERYTHING?
NO BOOK WAS READ.

>>17846931
****Unless they're fully encrypted
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>>17846929

i would to do research on this, but of course i'm paranoid and know that my isp is logging everything i do and sending it to wherever, so i avoid looking at Tor, freenet related things
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>>17846813
Hope you still here OP.


Do you try to "stay clean" from cp?

If yes, do you do?

I mean, i jerk off to cheese from time to time. It's not like i want to fuck a children but i get rock fucking hard when i watch it.
The problem for me is that it's like a addiction.

To make thing worse nowdays it's really easy to find cp in the internet, not even tor or freenet, just the regular web.

In my country isn't illegal to watch or possess child pornografy as far as i know. Distribution is illegal.

No one gives a fuck anyway.
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>>17846937
>Obviously I'd be wary if there was a pedo kindergardener
Honestly, since I am a babysitter and I know other pedos who have similar jobs in child care, I honestly think assuming you know the pedophile truly loves kids and isn't just some degenerate who wants a body to fuck (not a pedo) then I'd say they're the absolute hands down best people to have around children.
Anyone else ktf?

>Now supporting CP by consuming it
It's only really supporting if you pay for it or something.
Personally I've torched over a dozen people who produce CP's lives as they were abusing kids, be it clearly forcing them, yelling at them, ignoring their cries or desires, etc.
People, especially /pol/, thinks pedos support abuse. They couldn't be more wrong. We probably take out more child abusers than the rest of society combined desu senpaitachi

>>17846941
Tails the fuck up

>>17846949
What country? It probably is.
Just purge everything, avoid CP at all costs, wipe when accidentally viewed, then masturbate to cuties on instagram or get a nudist subscription and do it to that.
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>>17846940
my gf knew perviously to the arrest, before she found my stash. if it was because of her i would have been arrested alot sooner. and if you truly believe that the FBI cant break encryptions........

>>17846937

>people who pay for legit rape videos, that's pretty fucked up.

they are readily available w/o having to pay for it. i wouldn't think anyone would pay for for from of being caught.

>>17846949
I'm OP so yeah.

yes i do try to stay clean from CP and for the most part i succeed
viewing CP is like an addiction once youve seen it, and realised you enjoy it there is no going back. you cant escape the beauty of a childs body.

if it isn't illegal than the only problem would moral then i take it?
out of interest what country is this?
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>>17846965
>>Obviously I'd be wary if there was a pedo kindergardener
>Honestly, since I am a babysitter and I know other pedos who have similar jobs in child care, I honestly think assuming you know the pedophile truly loves kids and isn't just some degenerate who wants a body to fuck (not a pedo) then I'd say they're the absolute hands down best people to have around children.

i agree with this, it's suprisingly accurate, being a pedo doesn't just mean you want to fuck them (of course there are the few who do) i would cherish them and just have all the extra benefits.
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>>17846968
>my gf knew perviously to the arrest,
That's my point.
That's not someone to trust with such secrets, especially while you have illegal material.

>if you truly believe that the FBI cant break encryptions
No, they can, but they likely won't use it on a petty viewer, as you'll be the sacrifice that ups the security of ALL pedophiles in the know.
They won't use that card on you.

If they do though, that's why you used tails for on topic material.

>they are readily available w/o having to pay for it
That's true too, nobody really pays for CP, at worst you have exchanges of video for video.
Anyone who is sane wouldn't ever do that though. It's a death sentence. Literally.

>>17846984
Well it's funny because a pedo is basically guaranteed to take care of your child, get them to have fun, make sure they feel loved, and will defend some strangers kid they're with with their life if such a time comes.

Personally I don't even think of sex-things when I'm babysitting, although I still desire sensual contact, I don't go out of my way, at most I'll encourage cuddles or sitting together.

Like there's just no room to even think about that stuff, it's already a blissful experience, sex wouldn't improve it at least much, and when it's that risky and just out of the way it's in noooo way worth it.
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>>17846965
Yeah, it obviously depends. If I know the person it's a different story and being a pedo would be just another irrelevant detail about them like enjoying BDSM or beer or whatever the fuck else.

And hey, faggots were equaled to predators not too long ago, given couple decades I am sure we can move on from stigmatizing pedos.

>>17846968
>and if you truly believe that the FBI cant break encryptions........
Hardware encryption or stuff like TrueCrypt is pretty solid and would require silly amount of processing or backdoors nobody found yet. Hell, the feds had to pay millions for a zero day for an old ass iPhone.

TOR on the other hand is a weak point.
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>>17846965
>>17846968
I'm from Argentina. We have some laws against production and distribution, but nothing (yet) for possession.

>if it isn't illegal than the only problem would moral then i take it?

I don't know actually, i tend to feel bad after cuming to that kind of stuff for some reason. I usually remember that my best bro daughter could be the in the video for example. I'm not even a moralfag btw
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>>17846898

I'm not an "active" pedo (there was a time I looked at that stuff a lot, but it kinda died down in the last years), but for me it was the innocence and the softness of the sexual organs.

I had an early childhood experience (me and my female cousin showing parts), but we got caught, so I had a lot of repressed curiosity during my childhood and teenages. Since I saw that pussy and never got the chance to go further, I guess for me it was a way of "living" (again, I never did anything but look at pictures) those missed experiences.

I was into boys too but I attribute that to how early I began masturbating. Nowadays I really miss being able to orgasm without making a mess, and how often I could do it. It doesn't help that later in life I found out that I could have had multiple orgasms during that phase, so I fantasized a lot about that.

Surprisingly or not, it never bleeded into real life. I never saw a kid and felt the need to touch it in any inappropriate way. So I guess for me it was more a personal fetish for things I missed that age, than an attraction for kids per se.

And like I said, it died down recently, it only comes up in my mind every once in a while, but nothing that a guilty fap won't settle down
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>>17847020
>I am sure we can move on from stigmatizing pedos.
It will happen, but no one can really say when.
With that being said, parents, well, mothers, are INCREDIBLY easy to get on your side for babysitting and childcare work once they see how much kids adore you, and if you use the P(edo) word they'll flip of course, but with a little explanation they get all cozy and SUPPORTIVE funny enough.
The main challenge is fathers, honestly. That's easily fixed through child rights though.

>Hardware encryption or stuff like TrueCrypt is pretty solid
They have the processing power, it's just unlikely for you to be a target of that. It's not meant to be used.

>>17847021
In that case, I'd still encrypt and follow safety precautions for social and obscene reasons, but you might as well.
Just don't get into hurtcore stuff, as it literally can get you killed, plus is just bad stuff senpai

>>17847026
>tfw used to hump a soft fluffy pillow thinking of cute girls in my elementary school and orgasmed for hours till I got carpet-burn every night
>tfw eventually began to cum and try all types of shit to fix the leakage so my mother didn't see
>I know she saw, no way could you miss it
ayyy
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>>17847093

Did you manage to get multiples?

I remember it being so intense I just gave up after the first. Idk if it was for the best or worse, given that I try to have multiples even having missed it. If I did that by that age, I'd probably kill myself for never being able to do that again kek
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>>17847114
>Did you manage to get multiples?
Multiple-orgasms? Yes.
Literally hurt my dick and everything down there at a certain point in the night.

I'm not much for sexual things, so I don't mind. It felt amazing at the time, but it's just kind of "eh."
Nothing compares to holding a cutie and cuddling them to sleep in your arms. So blissful and comfy.
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Pedos, I'm just going to say it. If you have ever or will ever touch a kid, you should be killed. They don't know any better and you're a sick fuck.

If you haven't actually touched any kids or done anything else to corrupt them, I don't care beyond thinking you should get some therapy or something to correct your severe defect.

Also holy crap am I creeped out by this thread.
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>>17846931
And you didn't have giant magnet strips on your door frame?

>novice
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>>17847146
>If you have ever or will ever touch a kid, you should be killed.
Muh psychopathy

>They don't know any better and you're a sick fuck.
Excuse them for not being brainwashed into hating us :)

>corrupt them
Since when does a little innocent loving sex corrupt someone?

>severe defect.
Since when was love a defect?

>Also holy crap am I creeped out by this thread.
Try not being a bigot and a sheep, or just slaughter yourself like the swine you truly are.
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>>17847146
you realise that one day it will come back around.

not that long ago we were marrying off children, (some places still are) it will come back to that again. look at how the world is sexualising children now.
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>>17847143

Shit I envy you. I've been looking for that feeling since I realized it was different nowadays. I got close to manage to hold of the sperm and the dick got twitching just like I remember doing as a kid, but I ended up failing. Cold water on dick reminds me of that feeling too for some reason

Shit I miss cumming as I did, and specially missing the chance of having multiples...
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>>17847165

you would be suprised how little magnets do, it takes more than just passing 1 over a hdd to fuck it completley.

>they came in through the garagge
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>>17847189
You theoretically can if you take sex drugs and never lose your erection, I'd figure, assuming you didn't masturbate for quite some time before so you feel like you're more sensitive to the rub'rubs.

It's really not that great, like I said it doesn't even compare to other things...for someone like me.

>>17847190
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>>17847182
it'd take a mass population culling and life expectancy going down to ~35y/o before child-marriages are widely accepted again
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>>17847214

good luck with that mate, have you heard turkey lowered the legal age to 14 i think it was.
>it has begun
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execution
Amyone who looks at my little sister with lust in his eyes will be beheaded by my sword
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>>17847223
lol big boy tough guy
No you won't, you won't even know that she's in a relationship with a pedophile if she is in one.

>>17847214
Lol no, you don't need some issue to get people up for healthy good relationships :)
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>>17846817
do you know/believe that your arrest was a result of the volume of content you possessed or were you just "unlucky bastard #12345"? you had over 5k of images or ~8 hours of video or some mix of those two amounts.

How long did you use TOR/download content before your arrest? i'm not really interested in specific dates, but rather rough estimates (ex. took the feds 4 weeks to bust you)

I don't really have a favorable view of pedos. It's great that there are some that don't act on their desires and seek help, but there's definitely some that are hurting kids and creating a market for content creation.
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>>17847220
14 is more of a teen than a child.
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>>17847220
>implying Turkey is an indicator of public and popular trends
they're a step above a 3rd world shithole and we all know that
>>17847237
>healthy
>good
>fucking children
one of these things doesn't belong
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>>17847248
>seek help

>>17847260
>one of these things doesn't belong
Uhm no, they all go perfectly well together.
Despite your bigotry, I've spoken to mothers who strongly disagree and support my love for children, even helping me out with working with them, from my mother to other mothers I've met in real life and babysat their daughters.
It's just a matter of time :)
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>>17847273
0/8 would not b8, m8
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>>17847282
Sorry the facts make you uncomfortable. I also know multiple women who grew up with a pedo boyfriend who DID have sex with them and they absolutely loved their partner, the sex, all of it.

Once someone understands that you aren't some heartless monster wanting to force kids to have sex (as in adult sex) they don't really mind.
They think pedos will yell and hit a child till they have sex with them and by sex they think "dick goes all the way in the vagina" with the obvious screams and pain that'd cause.

Once they realize sex isn't a big deal and how the dynamics and ergonomics of sex with kids works they really don't care too much, as long as the child is up for it and "you do as you say you would."
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i dont wanna be a pedo, and yet i feel attracted to cheese
im too young, i still think that i can get off this urges
how do i cope with them? therapy?
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>>17847299
>my anecdotal evidence is fact
topkek m8
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>>17847319
>im too young,
I first acknowledged I was an (exclusive) pedophile and that it wasn't normal when I was 11 or so.
You aren't too young. If they are below 11, and you aren't 12, it's probably pedophilia.

>I still think I can get off this urges
Ha

>How do I cope with them
You accept them, accept who you are, and reposition your life and/or ponder what future you want and move towards it.
Simply don't molest any kids, don't restrict yourself from them if you emotionally love them, and don't avoid masturbating to them. Just make sure you don't get illegal stuff like Child Porn, just masturbate to cuties on instagram, maybe youtube, and shit like that, or maybe nudist websites (go directly, don't view on chan) and you'll be fine legally, just make sure no one sees you or sees them on your computer. Never access on a non-personal computer.

Therapy is useless, go find a group online if anything that can support you and make sure you are safe and stay sane. A good place to look is IRC's, or places like girlschat (if you like girls), boy-liking wise, I can't say as I've heard bad things from many of the places.
AVOID ANYONE who supports VP/VirteousPedophiles and their website, same with NAMBLA. Fed operations 100%.

>>17847330
Learn the fundamentals of a discussion before you participate, imbecile.
For all intensive purposes my anecdotal evidence IS fact in the discussion we're having you idiot.
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>>17847361
>Learn the fundamentals of a discussion before you participate, imbecile
ad hominem, m8
>implying this is a discussion and not just trolls trolling trolls on a Laotian silent film forum
>intensive purposes
INTENTS AND PURPOSES
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>>17847248
when people record vids or take pictures of sexualising children, it is not purely for distriobution it is for there own use
i used tor for probably about 4 years and limewire or pandashare (something like that) beforehand
and unlucky bastard.

>>17847260
>>17847254
its a step towards lowering the age of concent.
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>>17847369
what would make you think that everyone is thread are trolls, just because there are people out there who do not agree with your opinion or fit into your bubble does not make them a troll.
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>>17846813
i'd be all for child sex dolls tbqh

it's not your fault that you're a pedo

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/japanese-company-manufactures-lifelike-child-sex-dolls-for-paedophiles-a6811046.html

However, a meta-analysis by the Mayo Clinic found the treatments "do not change the paedophile's basic sexual orientation towards children".

Mr Takagi believes the dolls he creates - sent mostly to "men living alone" - save children from sexual abuse.

In Germany, they treat paedophiles as victims… not offenders
Self-confessed paedophile tells critics: 'You're the real monsters'
Millions of innocent Facebook photos end up on paedophile websites
On the ground with Scotland Yard's paedophile unit
He said: “I often receive letters from buyers. The letters say, ‘Thanks to your dolls, I can keep from committing a crime.’”

"I hear statements like that from doctors, prep school teachers—even celebrities.”
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>>17847378
i would be too,
i live in Australia, they banned small tits here because it encourages pedophilia, they dont let dolls into the country, even pics of lolicon are enough to get you charged.
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>>17847370
>its a step towards lowering the age of concent.
To a reasonable age like 14, which is the case in most progressive countries too. Age of consent being 18 in Murica is pretty retarded. Usually there are still limitations, so it's not like grown ass men can do 14 year olds. (At least in Europe, wouldn't be shocked if Turkey interpreted it differently)

>>17847378
If feel the danger with sex dolls (and not just for pedos) is the dehumanizing aspect. A guy being totally disconnected from the world fucking a doll for years, might start getting affected by it and perceive people differently.
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>>17847361
ugh
i find repulsive the idea of masturbating to innocent children who dont even have a single idea of what sexual urges are
yes, ive done so more than once, and it made me feel so disgusting and dirty that it gave me nauseas

even so, i found even more repulsive the idea of having to talk with children because i feel sexually attracted to them. that seems ridiculous and desperate, if you ask me
i like to talk to people with good will, not because i want to fullfill my sexual desires

more so, thinking about how much grown men do it, makes me feel sick

nor do i want to avoid the law
i shall be punished for whatever crimes i commit

and frankly, that whole "love" shit every pedo likes to talk about? yeah, right. its just a justification for they insanely deviant tastes
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>>17847388
>i live in Australia, they banned small tits here because it encourages pedophilia
A moment of silence for all the brain cells that were sacrificed in making this decision.
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>>17846817
>over 5k images (10 sec. of vid. is a classed as 1 image)

how hardcore are these? like, suggestive position but still clothed or fully visible genital? Do you have vids too
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>>17847400
have all the wymyn who've been dildoing themselves for decades been affected by it? no. stfu cuck.

a guy who's into children is disconnected from the world as it is. giving him a fuckdoll to suppress his urges is the best thing you can do. maybe he'll find out that it's shit and not wanna fuck real kids. maybe he'll like it and keep fucking his doll because it's easy, convenient and won't get him a prison sentence.
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>>17847378
None of the dolls in there (article) even look underage.
Regardless, that's literally worthless. Pedophiles are more than happy masturbating to kids, and it doesn't take away the demand for an emotional relationship with a child that most pedophiles virtually require to be genuinely satisfied with their life.
That simply leads to desiring a sexual relationship regardless with your partner, soooo it basically negates the theoretic purpose of the sex dolls.

Then for the rapists/sadists, they want the child to abuse usually, so they wouldn't care for it either.
This would help basically no one. Anime fetish-cucks would like it the most.

>>17847388
>Australia
That's why you were probably arrested.
There's very few TOR-users in Australia and plenty of funding.

>>17847400
>If feel the danger with sex dolls (and not just for pedos) is the dehumanizing aspect.
I'd agree with this too.
If you sex a doll, say a child doll, many will be warped into believing that, or rather demanding that sex with a real child is the same, which means penetration or potential rough sex.
That right now is not something pedophiles ever truly consider; sex with a child stops at licking, a little rub'rub, and maybe a gentle push. Anything more everyone basically agrees is straight up abuse.

I think it'd result in an overall negative impact on children's mental healthy and physical health, just as virtual reality would or sex-bots would, ESPECIALLY regarding children.
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>>17847425
I have yet to see a dildo resembling a person.

>a guy who's into children is disconnected from the world as it is.
Not necessary. Just because they can't live out their sexual urges doesn't mean pedos have to be complete social recluses. They are people first, so just like there is more to you than liking chicks, there is more to them than liking kids.
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>>17847450
t. pedo pro
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>>17847405
>who dont even have a single idea of what sexual urges are
They may not know what they are, but many have them, and basically all would love such an experience if they had it.

>i found even more repulsive the idea of having to talk with children because i feel sexually attracted to them. that seems ridiculous and desperate, if you ask me
>i like to talk to people with good will, not because i want to fullfill my sexual desires
That's not why I, or any pedophiles I personally know talk to children. Grooming is a lie, myth, etc, it's just something pedophiles do because they genuinely love and enjoy the company of children.
It's not to further a sexual goal, or any goal, but rather because it's satisfying and fun to be nice and interact with children for (most of) us.
I'm a babysitter and that so happens to include toddlers, and used to (and soon will, two families having babies soon) include babies. That entails naked bathroom aide. But that's not why I babysit or something I really even notice about the job. It's interacting with the children, cuddling, and having fun playing games that makes me enjoy and want to continue this job forever.
If I wanted to look at naked toddlers (or babies) I could do it at home.

>thinking about how much grown men do it, makes me feel sick
They don't.

>i shall be punished for whatever crimes i commit
Being a classcuck slave is not what I am here for.
I violate WAAAAAY more laws most likely than I even cross into the grey area on in other ways than my love for kids is concerned.

>>17847415
In Australia it doesn't really matter honestly.
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>>17847459
>quoting the non-pedo in a pedo thread full of actual pedos
Nice miss, there bro. That's like randomly clicking on the 1-7 video on pornhub.
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>>17847469
pedo pro means u know too much about pedos
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>>17847483
Understanding that sexuality is only a part of a person and generally doesn't define them sounds more like basic knowledge, tbqh.
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>>17847425
>is disconnected from the world as it is.
Nope.

>giving him a fuckdoll to suppress his urges is the best thing you can do.
Nope, read >>17847431.

>maybe he'll like it and keep fucking his doll because it's easy, convenient and won't get him a prison sentence.
Or maybe he'll develop sick fetishes and when he does have sex with a child he will absolutely ruin the relationship, panic, potentially kill the child and himself, or at the very least cause extreme damage to the child.
Or he may want the "real deal" and go rape an actual child just because, being in an over-sexual unsafe state of mind.

There's a very clear line in things that simply give "pedophiles" access to what they already imagine and desire and letting them do the deed in a way that they cannot even try to with a child, and giving them something that resembles a child (HA) and encouraging them to fuck it and go wild.
One acts as a release, one promotes idealism and desires to cross more into the reality of the dynamics of child-sex.

Give a "pedophile" some CP even and he cannot in ANY way make the experience like fucking a child.
Give him a body, albeit silicon, and adequate virtual reality or imagination, and he can delude himself into believing that what he does to it can be done to a child.

No matter what it's very different having a physical body of a child in front of you on your lap and imagining a child giving you a lap dance while you watch some CP. That's not so true when you have a fake body instead of your hand.
One prepares you for a real encounter, and one is a release. The only thing then stopping a bad event from happening is the child be conscious and snapping the madman out of it with their cuteness. If that fails, disaster strikes.
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>>17847490
>defending pedos

smhtbhfam
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>>17847495
People like you bitched about defending niggers or faggots back in the day. See how it ended?

There is absolutely no benefit for ANYBODY to demonize them, you could argue that pedos who live out their sexuality are negative for society but what's the point to go full retard over people who don't want nor intend to hurt a child?
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>>17847512

>see how it ended?

yep.
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>>17847512

>see how it ended?

uuuh-uh.
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>>17847522
>people who were and are still treated like shit actually commit crime
Shocking.

>>17847526
Is that a dwarf? The head-body ratio is off.
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>>17847532
>libruls are this delusional

were you #literallyshaking when trump won?
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>>17847462
childrens have no sexual urges
you and all pedos need to understand that

you just told me that i should chat on irc with childs
and it truly seems like you talk about interacting with childs as if it were some kind of sexual achievement
most people does too. and most people enjoy it also. the sad thing is that you want to relate this interaction with children with your """"""love""""" for them
they are not related
as i said, interacting with kids doesnt include a sexual satisfaction

they do

then you must pay for whatever crimes you commit. as it should be.
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>>17847535
Actually I was, from laughter since I am not from Murica.

Better buy more MAGA hats while the economy allows you to.
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>>17847546
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>>17847552
Too old.
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This is the weirdest thread I've ever come across. I understand it's a fetish you didn't choose to have but if you actually try to act on it by trying to pipe a child or beat your meat to CP, then you deserve whatever you have coming to you with the law.
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>>17847546
>while the economy allows you to

is it because you liberal cucks are gonna sabotage it by not going to work just because the democratically-elected president isn't the one who was rigged to win?
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>>17846813
>5-13
You deserve to be gassed. People call those who like 16 year olds pedos and I can understand them. But you, you are the enemy to humanity.
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>>17847559
Did you actually read his program beyond the "brown people are scary" parts? Remember Reagan? Probably not. How about Bush Jr? Now imagine all the tax cuts for the rich on steroids and hope that there won't be any penalties due Mr Meme pissing of a trade partner and consider that it'd be the best case scenario.

But hey, at least the memes were fun.
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>>17847578
Hey, remember Bush Jr and Obama? Now imagine all the trillions of $$ spent fighting sandniggers.
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>>17847590
It wasn't that big of a deal under Obama, despite the financial crisis. When it comes to government financing spending big is no issue if you can afford to.
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>>17847597
>we can totally afford it, bro!

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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>>17847608
>not realizing that debt is good for the economy
>not understanding that real problem is when the gap between spending and income becomes too large
>not believing in growth meme

The way a state runs is nothing like a household where debt is almost always negative. Obviously the military spending is totally idiotic and too high but MUH JOBS and lobby depend on it, so it's not like the clown with ego issues will lower it.
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>>17847640
>gap between spending and income becomes too large

the US could have literally permanently beaten world hunger and paid for every Westerner's basic income with the money they spent on stupid wars
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>>17846813
Age of consent laws are reasonable but the limits are likely too high. Should be more like 14-16, not 17-18. Girls mature sexually before guys, and are often attracted to somewhat older guys anyway. They always have been and always will be. Fine to have some age limit, but a 19-year-old should not end up in jail for dating a 15-year-old just because the girl's parents didn't approve. Break them up, sure, if you don't approve, but you shouldn't be able to give the guy a lifelong scarlet letter for it.
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>>17847653
Theoretically yes, practically not. The market always moves and prices would adjust accordingly.

Besides it's not like the money they spend on war disappears. It takes guys to get materials to build a bomb, guys to design it, guys to actually build it, some faggot to fly the plane and the guys who sold it as a good idea to the public want a pay check too. Etc.
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>>17847661
Oh, shit, you're actual pedophiles and not just ephebophiles. ... abandoning thread.
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>>17847687
>implying everything would become 3x more expensive when the fed doesn't print the trillions of dollars it needs to keep the wars going
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>>17847702
>implying supply and demand are not a thing
>implying recession is not a thing
The entire shit went full retard when they introduced fiat money, outside of total worldwide crash there is no cure.
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>>17847146
I'm genuinely curious, why would you want to seek "help"? I'm getting off to loli and sometimes to nudist stuff, but why do you consider it a defect? Why don't you tell everyone who isn't straight to go fix themselves? Are homosexuals also defective? What's your point?
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>>17847572
Guess your parents told you that a fairy pulls a switch on your 18th birthday that activates all your post-puberty features within a second. 16 year olds are perfectly fine in most cases
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>>17846883
>At least thats how i'm reacting to it. I can't speak for every other pedo. But seriously most of us are good. Don't let the bad guys who end up on the news paint this picture that we're all that way.

I wish homosexuals would become celibate like this and be very defensive. Could you imagine if we had that level of non degeneracy? It's be great
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Have you pedos looked into pizzagate? What are your opinions on its veracity? Maybe you guys have pedodar like homosexuals do? Do you guys ever meet with other pedos or can you sometimes tell when someone else is one?
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>>17846813
>what are you views on pedophilia?
its okay as long as you dont hurt children
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Also how gender neutral are pedophilic attractions?

Attraction to boys seems overrepresented and it seems that many offenders are like both boys and girls so I assume attraction is less about gender?
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>>17847872
You can recognize pedos by the big fucking tattoo on their forehead.
But seriously, according to society's stance towards pedophilia, most of us would take this into their grave.
Anonymous boards are very often the only place we can freely talk about it, if you ignore the occasional faggots that try to shitpost an actual discussion to death
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>>17847883
Only speaking for myself, I only like girls for example, but it really depends on the pedo. It's all up to preferences
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What the FUCK! You guys are trying to make everyone think you're normal and sane, all the while posting pics of kids????!!! I'm going to work on zapping you faggots. It's going to be my life's mission.
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>>17847862
You literally did not read my post and were just looking for an argument.
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>>17847936
okay, fuck off then
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>>17847936
Just don't get too much blood on your white shiny armor m8
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>>17846813
OP (and any other pedo ITT that's into IRL underage), do you know about the current tumblr controversy about users accusing artists and shippers of being pedophiles for shipping underage fictional characters together? How do you feel about that sort of thing?

Also, what are your feelings about ddlg/chire?
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>>17846813
Hello OP, may i ask your country of living?

I see a lot of people going to jail in 4chan, but most are from the States.

Like, how bad is it? If you download, let's say, a ton of movies illegally (not pedophilia), will you get arrested too?
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>>17848081
Not OP or a pedo but I live in the US and nobody gets arrested for pirating movies. You might get your content taken away/banned from certain websites if you were violating their terms and conditions at the very most, but that's pretty rare. Especially if you're downloading and not uploading.

You have a better chance of getting a bad virus from illegal downloads than getting punished for such a thing.
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went out for a few hours, suprised this thread is still alive.

>>17847838
alot of pedos want help to make them better, same as not all gay men want to be gay. theres just nothing that can be done about it.

>>17847873
never hurt a child in my life.

>>17847872
yes, you get an idea the wrong glance towards a girl etc. they're usually very subtle, most people wouldn't notice unless it was something that you did yourself.

>>17847970
i have no idea what your talking about.

>>17848081
Aus. probably i don't know alot about piracy. a friend of mine got an e-mail from her ISP warning her that she downloaded this movie. it seems to be common in Aus. i believe its a 3 strikes sort of deal, possibly because its so common. Most people stream now.
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>>17848127
If it helps, ddlg = daddy dom & little girl, aka two adults in a sexual father-daughter like relationship

chire = child regression, basically adults that behave like children and are interested in stuff for kids like toys, coloring books, kid's movies, etc.

There are more variations of both of these but these are the current common ones.

Out of curiousity, how old are you OP?
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>>17848137
>two adults in a sexual father-daughter like relationship

personally no i would not like this, it would drive me insane. i had a girl a few months back who just turned 18, she was too childish for my liking. being with a child you would come to expect this behaviour, from an adult i couldn't put up with it.

>chire
a disorder would make that acceptable, if it was intentional not so much.
too a point though, i enjoy child movies wreck it ralph, inside out to name a couple. from this i enjoy the toys that come with it. i would find this acceptable, there would still have to a degree of responsibility from the adult though.

this is all personal opinions though, it would be subjective to whoever you would ask.

i am 25
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>>17846813
>>17846817
>i do not want to fuck children
Do you fantasize about it in the abstract? Very well, you would never do it, but does the thought get you off?

If so, do you think it's a power fantasy? Does their vulnerability entice you at all?
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>>17848154
>Do you fantasize about it in the abstract? Very well, you would never do it, but does the thought get you off?

yes i do, and yes it does. thoughts are not a crime, and of course i keep this to myslef.

>If so, do you think it's a power fantasy? Does their vulnerability entice you at all?
no, not really there vulnerability makes it.... captivating. my attraction is not due to a power play/dom situation. its an attraction from love and lust just the same as you would find someone else attractive. just with me its directed towards children rather than adults.
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>>17846813
What's your endgame, OP? Do you think you'll be fapping to kiddos for the rest of your days? Do you want a relationship? Do you want to start a family? Do you have any dreams or aspirations? Got a bucket list or anything like that?
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I'd hang all of you, given the chance.
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>>17848202
fuck youself. read the thread might open your puny little mind a little.

>>17848195

>Do you want a relationship? Do you want to start a family?

this most of all i would love not be alone for the rest of my life. it's something that most pedos know, either that or they allready have a Mrs and kids.

yes i think being attracted to children will stick with me, its not something i can just turn off.

dreams & aspirations, bucket list is to see the northern lights. i will have to wait 7+ years because they wouldn't let me in another country with my record. hopefully they will let me in after that.
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>>17848211
I don't need to read the thread. You're a paedophile and you fund and encourage the molestation and sexual abuse of children. You deserve nothing but the rope. I'd bet my life that you'd rape a child if you were given the chance. You fucking creep.
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>>17848216
fuckn jeez mate, calm down ay.
i don't encourage abuse of children, at all.
you dont even know me to assume i deserve to be hung.
you may as well kill yourself cos i aint the type to rape a kid.

read the thread, there is a difference between pedophiles, peds are attracted to children and the rapists are the child molesters
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>>17848227
>hey bro i just want to rape children and i just encourage others to rape and sexually abuse children just like calm down tho it's just prank lmao
Hang yourself. The very first thing you admitted to in this thread was that you got arrested for having pictures and videos of children being sexually abused. They should've thrown you in prison and let you get raped to death.
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>>17847017
If I knew you hung out with my child I would kill you.
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>>17848233
your argument is the equivalent to that of a child.

do you play video games? i bet you do. do you murder people on the street?

you have clothes right, probably from china where the children make them. you encourage child slavery.
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>>17848236
>your argument is the equivalent to that of a child.
You'd like that, wouldn't you?

>do you play video games? i bet you do. do you murder people on the street?
See, this is where you become a retard. Well, I mean, you've always been a retard as evident by the fact that you appear surprised to know that most of the civilised world would kill you, given the chance, but here you really nailed that down for us. A proper equivalent would be "Do you play games in which you kill people? I bet you do. Do you then masturbate over pictures of people that have been murdered? Funding and encouraging these murders directly and indirectly." The answer to which, is no.

But not for you. You proudly support the sexual abuse of children and then try to act as though you're the victim somehow.

You deserve to hang.
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>>17847017
>outright admitting that the only reason he doesn't rape children is because he might get caught
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>>17848243
I am more than aware that 99% of the population would want to kill me.

to meet your compulsive needs
do you play games, i bet you do. do these games involve killing people, yes they do. by buying these games am i supporting killing people, yes i am anon. do you realise that these games are mass produced in factories in china. yes i do of course they are the labour is cheap where else would they make them. do you know the labour is cheap because they employ children for a few dollars a day, yes i do i support this because it gives me cheap games. you reaslise now that pre much everything (inc. shit that says made in America on it) is made in china, you know where they hire children. henceforth you are giving china need to put children into salvery. the same goes for anything made in Indonesia

by downloading CP (from years back) i did not support the people creating this content. the market is allready there. most of the uploads are from private videos that were taken for personal use by the owner.

if you had read through the thread i wouldn't have to repeat myself.
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>>17848262
I love that your entire spiel was entirely invented. You answered rhetorical questions and then answered them yourself because you knew if you waited for me to answer the questions, then you'd have been proven wrong and ultimately embarrassed.

The fact that you're actually even trying to equate playing Mario with sexually abusing a child tells me that you need to be euthanised. Preferrably in a painful, painful manner.
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>>17848243
ontop of that. by viewing CP it doesn't make me want to fuck children.

in your case by killing people in video games, it has made you into a clearly murderous person.
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>>17848270
>being a paedophile doesn't mean I'm a paedophile!
>playing games (which you haven't actually confirmed yet and I'm making only assumptions still) makes you a real life murderer
Yeah, hang yourself.
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>>17848266
if i waited for you to answer i would be here all night. i have a job, i dont spend my life infront of a computer.

>The fact that you're actually even trying to equate playing Mario with sexually abusing a child tells me that you need to be euthanised. Preferrably in a painful, painful manner.
this is a reasoning used by most people.

>being a paedophile doesn't mean I'm a paedophile
there different terms used. just being a pedo does not make me child rapist.
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>>17848275
>this is a reasoning used by most people.
>most people equate videogame players with people who sexually abuse children
>just because I fund and support child rapists doesn't make me a bad person!
The sheer fucking delusion.


I'm going to stop replying now, because I think this thread needs to die (as do you). I wouldn't at all be surprised if you had more pictures and videos on your computer right now and I can only hope that you get caught again and thrown into general population.

Hang yourself.
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>>17848280
closed minded people.....

i hope you are keeping in mind that there are still countries out there where marrying a child is the norm.
no doubt that you wouldn't like this, and again not more than 70-100yrs ago it was common everywhere else.
its the time you have been raised in that has made you like this

>i really hope you stick to your word and dont reply to this.
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>>17846916
What is a tail?

And before my door is kicked in, I'm just curious about computer privacy.
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>>17848318
i'm not this guy but tails is a encryption system loaded independently through a usb which is then used a externall HDD.

this is pre-mauch what i know.

>google is your friend
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I had a dream last night that I was apart of the fbi or some-sort and was put on a job to catch a notorious Hebephile.
I look like I'm 14 and I'm on this bus where he sees me and like grooms me and takes me back to his house.
Long story short he ends up fucking me, I fall in love and tell the FBI he isn't a shady kiddie fiddler.

Now I know a lot of the dream makes no sense, but what do you think that means?
Was kind of a WTF moment when I woke up and reflected.
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>>17848356
>being that i am a professional dream decipherer

you dream tells me you want to be with someone older than you, who is aparently not a kiddie fiddler regardless of him having sex with you as a 14y.o
maybe you wanted him to be immune to the eyes of the FBI
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>>17848367
It was a pretty fucked dream, aye.
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>>17848370
its interesting.
i think your lucky though, i dont remember my dreams unless there incredibly vivid.

i once dreamed that my ex was cheating on me, i was pissed off and ignored her all her day. she wasn't very happy when she found out why.
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>>17848378
Then again I'm into that DD;LG shit so I'm probably way fucked in the head anyway. Thanks dad for not loving me enough!
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>>17846813

I think pesos should get better sexual preference, but as long as you're not directly or indirectly (as in paying some scumbag to kidnap children and take naked pictures of them) harming children or acting upon your sexual urges and at the very least try to get help, then I don't really care

Also don't give me that Bullshit about"hurt durr it was okay back in the day". So was slavery, rape, public execution, genocide and other nasty things as well.
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>>17848396
better sexual preference ??
as in child sex dolls?

not giving you bullshit about history. its just part of the fact of pedophilia, that it existed as a common thing throughout history.
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>>17848410

No, I mean as in older people. I'm practically a Hebe myself due to the situations that happen to me, being that 14 year olds hit on me all the time and I look like I'm 15 when I'm actually 25.
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>>17848432
>not sure if bragging

what would your opinion of indirectly be?
is viewing CP that is already there indirectly harming them, or is it (objectively) acceptable that pedos view this rather than acting on there sexual preferences
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>>17848432
How and where do these 14 year olds hit on you?
For research purposes, obviously.
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>>17846813
I think it's the sign of a degenerate mind. Get help. If you oppose that, kys.
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>>17847970
not a pedo, but anything that's getting tumblr snowflakes's panties into a knot is a nonissue for the productive world
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>>17848092
when you pirate movies, your isp is more likely to crack down on you than the law. I got a letter from my isp for downloading movies a few years ago and it was pretty much a warning that my connection would be throttled to dial-up speeds if I continued. They're more likely to crack down on you if you're stealing popular shit like Game of Thrones rather than some obscure film from the 60s that's been out of print for 30 years

Studios/IRAA could pursue lawsuits against you on your first offense and they'd probably win. the problem is they'd bankrupt themselves on lawyer fees while waiting for every joe blow to pay up their $250K piracy fee
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>>17848447

I said my views of indirect, as in paying some jerk to find kids and kidnap them to take pictures if and/or rape them

>>17848463

Just mostly through work and/or event gigs that I do. I flirt back sometimes. I don't tell them my age unless it goes too far, such as them inviting me to their home or them asking me out on a date, then I break it off.
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>>17848540
What attracts you to them specifically?
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>>17846813
you sick fuck
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>>17846937
Once again all you have to realize to not be upset at pedos anymore is to just imagine how you would feel if you suddenly found out right now that you like kids. That's the reaction we have. We're just like you and try to have the same good morals you do and try to live normal lives like everyone else. There is nothing abnormal or sick about the way most of us deal with having this attraction and we didn't develop it by being twisted or sick or perverted.

What you're thinking about is a child molester.
And a child molester in the pedo community is the same as a straight male who sexually harasses women by touching them inappropriately. They are in a very small minority and do not come close to representing to the rest of us. Just like a person who sexually harasses women doesn't come close to representing normal straight guys that like women.

Child molesters are in a completely different league of their own.
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>>17848548
>This pathetic paedo fuck trying to get tips on how to groom children
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>>17848548

Well I'm more attracted to older women, but it's hard trying to flirt with girls my age or older when you remind them of their brother/son because you look much younger than you are.

So it kinda just happened over time when 13-16 year olds are the only ones giving you the time of the day. So basically my attraction towards young teens simply comes from accessibility.
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>>17848291
Not him, but this is a stupid argument.
>they did it 100 years ago so it must be okay
They also had slaves, are you cool with slavery? It's also the norm in a lot of countries nowadays to have slaves...
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>>17846813
will you turn yourself in to be sterilized, or will we have the pleasure of hunting you down and manually relieving you of your sexual organs?
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>>17848898
I beleive the point trying to be made (or the point that shoud've been made) was that social norms and valies change over time. If they were different 100 years ago, it can be assumed that they can/will be different in the future.
And that the social norms of our time have no more claim to 'truth' or 'right' than those of another time.
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My personal views on Pedophilia?

It honestly depends on the case. If it's one of the things where the person was within what I consider the age of being able to have and understand sex, (typically 15/16+) then I see nothing wrong with it. Love is love.

However if it's clearly rape/molestation and the child had no say, or they were manipulated into it, I view it as wrong, something that must be punished very, very, dearly.
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I have an open and empathetic mind about pedos who control their urges, but I noticed that the pedos in this thread think that having "gentle" sex with children is okay, and that watching CP is okay.
I don't think that having sex with children is good for the child's mental health, gentle sex or not. there have been many studies about children growing up with mental illness because of early adult sexual exposure.
I also believe that watching CP is wrong because you're watching a child being abused and taken advantage for the whole world to see. A small helpless being is being forced to have no choice but to comply to doing sexual acts on camera, there is nothing right about that.
If I can be empathetic towards pedos and the struggles they go through why can't pedos be empathetic towards these helpless children?
A lot of the pedos here keep saying that kids like the sexual acts and that alone makes it ok. Sure the kids might like it in the moment but it definitely fucks them up later in life and this is well documented!
I get loving children and being completely infatuated with their little personalities and cute looks, I love kids like that too I work in child care so I get the appeal, but it becomes unfair to the child when you get your dick involved because it messes them up mentally.

I also have a question; why are the vast majority of pedophiles male? Do men confuse paternal feelings towards children as sexual feelings?
I ask this because I agree with loving children and feeling a love greater for them than I do with adults, but I'm a very maternal woman and don't feel a sexual element to this.
I also notice a lot of men sexualizing most things they indulge in like TV shows, anime characters, and videogame characters. A lot of guys can't get away from sexualizing most things in their lives, are men who are nurturing towards children no exception to this rule?
Maybe you pedos are just confusing paternal feelings as sexual feelings.
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>>17846817
So why didn't you hack neighboring wifi and use that so they go after someone else instead if you, why would you dl anything on your own connection?
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>>17847557
>This is the weirdest thread I've ever come across. I understand it's a fetish you didn't choose to have but if you actually try to act on it by trying to pipe a man or beat your meat to gay men, then you deserve whatever you have coming to you with the law.

Rally makes u think
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What do you anons think of cp that is not influenced by any adults or promote any kind of abuse. Mostly just teens on cam site that want to get off of their own pleasure and people just record it. Literally no one here is being abused or hurt, and yet you can go to prison for having it.
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>>17850225
Teens are a different story because they actually have sexual autonomy. Not saying it would be right though.
The pedos here seem to be into literal children, like toddlers and elementary aged children.
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>>17846965
Knowing that you're a babysitter upsets me.
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>>17850210
It's because having sex with a kid is rape since they don't know enough to consent.

It's similar to having sex with an unconscious person. They might like it, it might not hurt them, but it is still wrong since they were never given the chance to consent.
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>>17851509
Ah yes, I see your point, but the lines blur on what should be considered a "kid" in the us an individual under the age of 18 is considered a "child" and is not capable of consent, which is absolutely rediculous when you compare this age of consent to most other countries in the world. It is well known that teens know, practice and expiriment in sex, and yet in the usa you see 18-21 year Olds being charged with statutory rape for having sex with 16-17 Year old girls who are consenting and willing. I believe legislation should be reviewed in these regard and put in line with most other nations.
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>>17851543
Of course, I think you will find that a lot of people agree with you about teens. In fact a lot of states have laws allowing (or reducing the penalty) people to have sex if they are within a couple years (i.e. a 16 and 18 year old).

What most people in this thread are worked up about is the justification and support of actual pedophilia (prepubescents). If a child hasn't hit puberty, then they have no sexual urges, and coercing them to do sexual acts can only be described as exploitation.
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>>17851561
>they have no sexual urges

Not him/her, new to the thread
Kids definitely have sexual urges, why do you think they masturbate? I started at eight and I heard girls start even earlier on average.
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Not nearly enough kill yourself in this thread.

Kill yourselves.
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>>17851577
Maybe I should restate that. They don't tend to feel sexual attraction. Realizing that playing with your genitals feels good is not the same as wanting to have sex with someone.
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>>17852166
Once they know about masturbation it doesn't take long to learn about sex and porn
Once they know that sex feels even better than masturbation they obviously want sex, too.

Why are people so very much against helping a kid feel good in a sexual way?
Why not just see it as another form of showing affection besides hugs and kisses?
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>>17852293
Because it fucks with them psychologically. Not only that, but the power dynamic is completely fucked. Even if you claim that it is completely consensual (I still don't believe a child can give consent, but for the sake of the discussion let's say they can), there's no way of knowing that the kid didn't just agree to it to not get in trouble. Kids are so impressionable at that age that you could literally condition a kid to be your sex slave if you were sick enough. In fact there are probably people trying to defend that as well saying "if the child wants to be my sex slave, how is that harming them?"
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>>17852855
>Because it fucks with them psychologically
How?
The thing that fucks them up is society after they are found out

>there's no way of knowing that the kid didn't just agree to it to not get in trouble
Of course there is
It's called 'giving them the choice'
It's incredible what science has achieved, isn't it?
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>>17847093
>That's easily fixed through child rights though.
That's fucking appalling.

>need to take away fathers rights so it's easier for us pedos to get close to kids.

Please, for the love of all that is good, kys.
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>>17846965
>I am a babysitter and I know other pedos who have similar jobs in child care, I honestly think assuming you know the pedophile truly loves kids and isn't just some degenerate who wants a body to fuck (not a pedo) then I'd say they're the absolute hands down best people to have around children.
I'm a babysitter too and FUCK NO
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>>17846813
You shouldn't watch real child porn because it hurts children but otherwise cartoons and stories are ok. You shouldn't rape or have sex with children.
I also don't know what do you mean by pedophilia, if it is little children, just jack off and concentrate on other aspects of your life, it is not like all adults who like adults find a suitable partner either. There are people who are disfigured, obese, ugly, just weird and can't get sex but are just happy doing other things.
If you think that pedophilia is that you are 20 and like a 17 year old, just wait a year. There are adults who have childlike appearance, especially Asians. If you like little children, it is just better to concentrate on other things. If unliked fat nerds don't go out to rape, you don't need to go either.
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>>17852293
I am asexual and masturbate only because it feels annoying to be turned on, the same way like little children. Porn looks disgusting and having sex is not attractive idea at all, it reminds of doctor's office and having very unsexy physical examination. I have never been turned on by anybody and can't feel attraction. It is like scratching an itch, exactly the same way as when I was a child. Masturbation doesn't mean that you would like sex or even other person there and be naked in front of them. Scratching your back doesn't mean you want the other person doing it with their penis while calling you slut.
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>>17853024
>I am asexual and masturbate only because it feels annoying to be turned on, the same way like little children.
Kids don't do it because it's annoying but because it feels good. Kids want to do things that are fun and feel good, so they want to try sex once they know what it is

>>17853024
>Masturbation doesn't mean that you would like sex or even other person there and be naked in front of them.
Yeah probably not if you're fucking ASEXUAL. Kids aren't all asexual dude.
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>>17846813
I wasn't always a pedo, OP. One summer my niece molested me. I wasn't the same after; the only thing I could fap to after that was cp. feelsbadman
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>>17853131
Damn these little rapists, man
No one ever suspects the preteen
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>>17847173
4/10 troll

sorry this is what you troll about
I hope you stop being a waste at some point
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>>17848233
shitty b8 m8
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>>17853017
>but are just happy doing other things

They sure do exist, but mostly they're probably doing those other things, because they can't get any sex, whether that being due to their appearance, their anxiety about their appearance or a combination between the two
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>>17853169
yeah, she walked in on me in the shower, said she wanted to take a bath with me, stripped and jumped in and started playing with my dick halfway through.
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>>17846867
> I generally view morality through the lens of harm done
i know what you mean but we're not omnipotent and never know the implications or butterfly effects of what we're witnessing.

when a gipsy kid plays music in the subway and ask for change, what is the moral thing to do ?

we can't really judge tbf
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>>17846813
People who are but fight it are fine in my book.
People who fall for it however should be put down, permanently.

You should be put down as well if you are active.
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>>17852899
There has been numerous psychological studies done. I don't care to look them up, and if you don't believe me I don't give a fuck.

Giving them choice doesn't make sense in this case. For one, kids don't know better. Would you give a kid the choice to drink mercury or not? Although you probably would since you seem to think of kids having the mental maturity of an adult.
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>>17853419
You didn't say no... how is that molestation?
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>>17853496
A dirty cop comes up to you brandishing his gun, and asks you to suck his dick. Regardless of if he will actually shoot you if you disobey, you will probably do it out of fear of disobeying the cop.

Same with a kid. A kid won't want to disobey an adult or an elder of some sort. They don't want to get in trouble, or to dissapoint them. Even if you don't explicitly threaten them they will assume this in the back of their head.
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>>17853493
>There has been numerous psychological studies done. I don't care to look them up, and if you don't believe me I don't give a fuck.

Yeah, yeah, people always say that.
How about some actual substantial proof for once?
Give me irrefutable evidence of some kind of psychological damage in kids, if they ask to get their pussy licked and enjoy it, and I'll never agree to something of the sort myself.

I'm pretty sure you're thinking way to much of actual rape here. Every 'study on pedophilia' ever so far is based on child rapists for (hopefully) obvious reasons.
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